Hiya, to clear up any confusion about lightning bending - I should've elaborated a little more on that. Yes, Iroh does generate lightning as well, but he never uses it offensively like Ozai or Azula. The rest of what I said still stands - the characters who use it as a form of attack are indeed doing so with the intention to kill. Thanks to everyone pointing it out, will try to do a better job of explaining exactly what I mean in the future! ❤

@wakkaseta8351

3 жыл бұрын

Quite frankly, Iroh was never pushed to use it outside of demonstration purposes. Most of his battles he was able to win easily with little to no Firebending, and with lightning's charge up time, he'd be leaving himself as open to attack as Aang was to Azula when he was going Avatar State.

@cactuz116

3 жыл бұрын

It was still pretty understandable what u meant, the offensive use of lightning-bending had a double meaning in that it represented brashness and aggression and crossing a boundary that our heroes would not, it also parallels aang’s moral dillema on killing ozai. Its a smart way to use a form of a powerup to enforce existing themes.

@ooiiooiiooii

3 жыл бұрын

Also, learning lightning bending blows up in Zukos face not learning lightning redirection. It is only after Iroh sees Zuko can't make his own that he teaches him how to redirect.

@canthandlethislol

3 жыл бұрын

Did you do any videos on hunter x hunter too? Also I havent watched it yet but I heard one piece is well also

@kylianos3907

3 жыл бұрын

To me, Iroh being able to lightningbend, but choosing not to says a lot about him as well. In his past, he was a pretty ruthless general, but he changed himself for the better after his son died.

I still think Zuko's reaction to Katara's bloodbending was one of the best subtle details in the series. He doesn't say a word, but you can see for a split second he is stunned, disturbed, and maybe a little afraid. He could never imagine this waterbending technique existing, or that Katara of all people would use it. But whereas Aang and Sokka would have immediately starting shouting for her to stop, Zuko lets it go, believing a certain level of brutality is necessary if they are going to win the war.

@GBlockbreaker

Жыл бұрын

i think it also connects nicely with his joining of the gaang, Zuko probably never saw her as that much of a threat, sure she was strong but never really harmed someone, so when she said she'd make sure "his destiny ends right then and there" he probably didn't take her too seriously or didn't think much of it, seeing that she can very much make good of her threat in horrifying ways must've been quite the shock to him

@rand5106

Жыл бұрын

He probably also didn't want to say anything in case she turned her bloodbending on him. Considering his past, he was already on comparatively thinner ice, and they were going up against Fire Nation soldiers. If he'd objected to her bloodbending, Katara might have perceived it as him betraying them/trying to defend to his birth nation, and attacked him as well.

@wafflingmean4477

Жыл бұрын

@@rand5106 Yeah and with none of the rest of the Gaang nearby, Katara could easily kill Zuko during a full moon.

@cephalopods_are_cool

Жыл бұрын

He also probably didn’t know when she’d learned it so he was probably also thinking “SHE COULDVE DONE THAT THE WHOLE TIME”

@GabrielusPrime

Жыл бұрын

I personally think Toph learning metalbending was potentially a scarier thought for the fire nation, considering that all their armor, vehicles, and non-bending and non-explosive weapons were made of metal... If she had learned it early enough to teach it to the Earth Kingdom forces before the fall of Ba Sing Sei, I just know the entire war would have become a rout in the other direction.

Jojo power progression is like playing a tough video game. You get smashed by a new unexpected mechanic but then you adapt and learn how to defeat it. Avatars is more like real life, where a level head can take you as far as you're personally capable of. Life tends to be an amalgamation of skills we've learned sometimes used in unconventional ways.

@u-thix2436

3 жыл бұрын

Perfect description

@lewismartin3430

3 жыл бұрын

the 9 glory gods where the high level minibosses. (excluding oingo and boingo obviously)

@bri1085

3 жыл бұрын

JoJo has Legend of Zelda style progression

@koworian

3 жыл бұрын

If Avatar was like real life, it would be depressing.

@bri1085

3 жыл бұрын

@@koworian As if real life isn't depressing

"When a new enemy is introduced, we see Jotaro fight him and often lose..." you mispronounced Polnareff

@caiorocha1049

3 жыл бұрын

Polnareff is the most harassed character in Jojo's history

@tale7955

3 жыл бұрын

@@caiorocha1049 Diavolo: LESS THAN INFINITE HARASSMENT? ROOKIE NUMBERS.

@caiorocha1049

3 жыл бұрын

@@tale7955 okay, good point 😂😂😂😂😂

@johnnyaugust5015

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but even Diavolo beat Polnareff because he didn't know what his stand was

@nihili4196

3 жыл бұрын

Diavolo might've killed Polnareff, but Polnareff won that fight. Remember, it wasn't about just defeating opponent, it was about getting the arrow. Polnareff managed to (accidentally) find a way to stall until more people capable of dealing with situation would arrive.

Toph learnt metalbending because she is strong. she did not get strong when she learnt metalbending.

@Joanbueller007

3 жыл бұрын

learned metalbending because she is blind, making a disability an advantage

@turothecreator3067

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joanbueller007 Honestly i don't think that had anything to do at all, she learned Metalbending because, as OP said, she's already strong.

@Slender_Man_186

3 жыл бұрын

She learned metal bending for the same reason she’s the best earth bender, she waited and listened.

@Darkness19Z

3 жыл бұрын

@@turothecreator3067 It has everything to do with it, her blindness make her see the world in a whole different way because of what she learned from the Badger moles, which made it easy for her to bend.

@mehemynxm6974

3 жыл бұрын

@@turothecreator3067 she says outright she learned to listen because she's blind tho

Azula is one of the only characters in history that didn't let the main character power up.

@enot2140

3 жыл бұрын

Ironicly, it happened in JoJos manga before ATLA :D

@enot2140

3 жыл бұрын

@@WingerWind I was thinking that too, but, tbf to obinndash, Hammer Titan isn't a main character.

@Obinndash

3 жыл бұрын

@@enot2140 I guess you can generalize and just say characters that don't let the enemy power up.

@tale7955

3 жыл бұрын

@@enot2140 You mean in part 4 when jotaro doesn't let Kira use BTD? I can't really remember other example...

@ezequielinsaurralde5058

3 жыл бұрын

Android 17 Didint Let Ribrianne And the girls transform in the Tournament Of Power

Avatar : I must learn all the elements to save the world and my family JoJo : Ayo Jotaro we found dio les go

@egaming1071

3 жыл бұрын

@Rotom Channel you mean Phantom Blood?

@egaming1071

3 жыл бұрын

@Rotom Channel lol

@rainsarge

3 жыл бұрын

It's mor like mama sick let's go beat this guys ass real quick

@knutos3295

3 жыл бұрын

lessss go

@Drekromancer

3 жыл бұрын

OI JOSUKE I BEAT UP A RANDOM STRANGER

Also Jojo roulettes the protagonists ability by using combos, different protagonists, and switching the protagonist group up each part.

@stubbornpotatogaming6220

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I remember the parts where Avdol is absent and yet that is the time when stand users can be easily defeated by him. So Jotaro and the rest needs to improvise.

@sherry.8145

3 жыл бұрын

And strategy

@MrSignalPlus

3 жыл бұрын

JoJo's routine gets very early quickly too though. It's not necessarily a power creap issue but a repeated format issue. It's constant introduction of new stands and foes doesn't allow for any substantial story growth but just facilities a dragged out story

@sherry.8145

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSignalPlus ...bullshit

@GimOA

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSignalPlus then what's the ideal plot would you recommends? I'd love to hear it more than this shitty critics without advise

Zuko: I got lightning bending Katara: I got bloodbending Toph: I got metalbending Sokka: I got a rock

@kadalix

3 жыл бұрын

no he has a boomerang

@xtentasticx

3 жыл бұрын

@@kadalix if you watched avatar you'd know he got a sword from a meteor I.e. rock

@kindasomeviews

3 жыл бұрын

you missprounced sword for Sokka

@Zinervawyrm

3 жыл бұрын

@@kadalix And a space swor...nevermind, we don't talk about what happened to space sword.

@K.G444

3 жыл бұрын

Zuko can’t lightning bend, he can only redirect. Iroh, Ozai and Azula can though.

Katara: \*bloodbends someone and turns the rain into countless sharp ice-needles* Zuko: How the fuck did I survive fighting this girl thus far?

@cameronno6039

3 жыл бұрын

By doing it on a dry day without the moon...

@TheseUseless

3 жыл бұрын

to be fair, it's only possible to blood bend during a full moon

@cameronno6039

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheseUseless in ATLA. Korra completely mutilated all previous rules in the series. You don't even have to move to blood-bend anymore.

@axelaguirre5014

3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronno6039 in real life athletes keep breaking records and they are always more competitive than athletes in the past, that could also apply in avatar world with bending

@TheseUseless

3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronno6039 I'm never watching korra, all I ever hear is how much of a bastardisation it is.

I love how in Part 1, it was Dio that had more plot armour and asspulls than Jonathan lmao

@kaneconqueror6560

3 жыл бұрын

Dio was the one who was made to suffer the most due to power creep. Sure, he was hateable from the start, but when the pillermen showed up they completely overshadowed him and kars was able to grab agro pretty well with how his deceptive and honorless behavior contrasted with wamuu's warrior honor and esidisi's loyalty and sacrifice. At least stands made him kinda relevant again, but even then i looked askance at how everyone played him up when he was just a leveled down version of an already faced threat. Kars ascended, and Dio is still trying to be painted as the big bad.

@ChadBenjamin

3 жыл бұрын

Jonathan had Pluck, and Dio had Luck.

@gilmsgabriel

3 жыл бұрын

Jonathan so strong that the villain needs plot armor by default

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaneconqueror6560 honestly a vampire with a stand already is scary enough, stopping time or not, so the power scaling did work quite well for him. And Kars didn't really raise the bar a lot, since he wasn't overpowered, outsmarted, outclassed or even actually defeated. Kars was literally bullshitted away by Joseph, no fighting just plot armor. Therefore, actually defeating someone like that would still have been an achievement. Also I want to note that Kars picked up that whole dishonorable behaviour and deceiving thing from Joseph, he never did that until Wham! died, at which point he decided that he needs to evolve his strategy to win.

@jonathanodude6660

3 жыл бұрын

@@runtergerutscht4401 pretty sure he didnt agree with whammus behaviour the entire time and there might have been a flashback that showed a minor disagreement on how they wanted to carry out their plan. also wasnt kars persuaded into the deal with joseph by whammu who admired his fighting spirit?

“But there are times when jotaros time stop ability is useless.” “Useless” Useless-wait a second

@ddl3718

3 жыл бұрын

M U D A

@kamikv

3 жыл бұрын

The dio is forming

@terramerc733

3 жыл бұрын

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like this statement is very wrong. Stopping time was never useless for Jotaro, in the worst scenarios for him this is why he survives (like with the rats). Okuyasu would've died in that situation, so would have Koichi or Josuke. Stopping time is never useless, sometimes it's just not an insta win

@repulsethemonkey1396

3 жыл бұрын

Wait a second... NAY.. 9 seconds!

Stoping time is useless when you fighting a rat xD

@walesjedi9217

3 жыл бұрын

it's really useless when you move the same way over and over, predictability is death in JoJo

@sweetmamaschili4051

3 жыл бұрын

@@walesjedi9217 Yeah you can tell Jotaro is out of practice when he hops to the right every couple seconds and doesn’t expect to be hit.

@Flamme-Sanabi

3 жыл бұрын

Except not really.

@jsus159

3 жыл бұрын

“The world” weak point are long range powerful attack because the user doesn’t know when to stop the time. Any snipper like stand can take him down.

@invisibleair2156

3 жыл бұрын

Jotaro can deflext the bullets no prob. But the ratt doesn't use normal bullets, it uses some flesh melting shit.

Josuke from Part 4 is a great example of this. Every time he does something new, it is just an unseen usage of his power (e.g. destroying the motorcycle to avoid the infant, using the power chord to quickly get up in Super Fly, and using glass bullets against Kira with his own blood).

@scraftyme

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! NOBODY GIVES PART 4 THE CREDIT IT DESERVES

@jssupremacy3572

3 жыл бұрын

Well *spoiler alert for part 4* Josuke is Joseph's son

@benkirkpatrick6343

3 жыл бұрын

@@scraftyme I've always considered part 4 to be the most consistent and easy to watch part in the whole series. Part 3, imo, has a lackluster main character, and a perfect plot, ruined by a lack of ambition. Part 1 is slow, part 5 lacks humor, and part 2 is wonderful, but still suffers from the slowness of part 1.

@felixargyle1285

3 жыл бұрын

@@benkirkpatrick6343 Jotaro's character arc goes from part 3 to part 6

@benkirkpatrick6343

3 жыл бұрын

@@felixargyle1285 I know, but imo, his character arc within part 3 left more to be desired, especially in his motivations and power creep. At a few points within the story, they introduced elements that could've held more weight (the role of his father in discovering his Stand, his anger and how it applies to his Stand's power, and the evolution of his Time Stop ability) but chose not to pull the trigger on things. Of all things, tho, I think they missed a perfect chance to humanize him. As I've seen it, Jotaro had the potential to be a perfect protagonist, but their decision to make him this stoic, Mary Sue-esque individual detracted from his more mature, fleshed out personality in parts 4 and 6.

Ah yes. My 4 favourite shows: Introduction, Avatar the last Airbender, Jojos Bizarre Adventure and Outro

@lukasr1166

3 жыл бұрын

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@colmlooney5843

3 жыл бұрын

Introduction is an absolute must watch for all hentai fans. I think the sequel Outro was a bit sloppy tho, a money grab if you will. Its a shame too 😔

@lagging5945

3 жыл бұрын

@@colmlooney5843 Introduction is overrated

@weirdreapr

3 жыл бұрын

@@lagging5945 I disagree, but your opinion is valid

@lagging5945

3 жыл бұрын

@@weirdreapr it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact

If I remember correctly, when asked why the villains of Part 4 weren't stronger than the ones from Part 3, Araki said he didn't want to disrespect them.

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't seen this myself, but if that is the case - I feel like most authors should hear that 😄 I've always felt that with insane power-escalation, you're doing a massive disservice to everything that came before. Obviously, if it is a closed narrative, where the whole point is that the character gets stronger (almost like an RPG), previous obstacles should feel like lesser threats, but not trivial.

@Nepalien_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Koroto You should really watch parts 1, 2, 4, 5 and read part 6-8. IMO they are all better than part 3

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

I've watched the whole series (have a video on ranking the parts too). Though I don't plan on reading the manga just yet, with Stone Ocean coming fairly soon(ish), I'll wait for the adaptation. :)

@NoOne-om7mm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Koroto I've forgotten where it was but Araki did say that the reason he doesn't want to have a more op stand than the other is because he will have trouble doing power scaling like DBZ where the enemy came from destroying the whole city to a destruction of the universe type. He wanted to have a more proper scaling hence why Kira is not stronger than DIO but he is strong in his own way like that, that is why every following villain have different power levels instead of just increasing to have a battle with no over the top but not underwhelming fights.

@comicstrider4851

Жыл бұрын

@@Nepalien_ that's Araki having a power progression on his own irl lmao

You know the analysis is legit when he refers to Zuko's hired assassin by his proper name - Sparky Sparky Boom Man.

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

That is his one and true name after all.

What makes Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, in my opinion, better than other fighting anime is how the battles are decided. No one is explicitly stronger than anyone else, as such anyone could beat anyone. The biggest advantages you can have in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is creativity and intelligence. I mean even the kid in part four who didn't have a stand was able to outwit, and thus win against the main villain, even if he didn't actually throw the punches. Similarly in Avatar, it isn't "I am strong, therefore I am powerful", but rather "I am curious and willing to experiment and learn, therefore I am more powerful." Basically, when getting down to it, what these series have in common is that the characters have to really think to keep up and win.

@synkieagda7620

3 жыл бұрын

Like Fromaggio would say : "What's important is not your power but how you use it".

@caesarin0

3 жыл бұрын

I get the point of the example, but personally I despised everything about Hayato outwitting Kira since the entire thing felt like a load of bullshit tbh

@kaneconqueror6560

3 жыл бұрын

You have to acknowledge though that this way is much more demanding on an author, in that they have to think up problems that don't require brute force solutions and think of creative solutions that perferably are not immediately obvious. And they have to keep it fresh and varied to a greater degree than systems where the main character can just punch it harder and the audience is just happy to see the hair change colors. Two martial fighting shows that i like and feel handle this well are Baki and Kengen Asura. Each show does have the main character learn and grow some over time, but the main variance is due to having a large cast of interesting characters that can be pitted against eachother. Each character is dangerous and a threat for a different reason, and thus there a advantages and disadvantaged matchups. The main character isn't the one fighting in over half the episodes, but the other characters are written well enough to be main characters in their own right, and so the mc doesn't have to consistently level up to compete in every fight. I think naruto may have started out with a similar setup at the beginning, but they never could fully leave naruto alone to focus on another character because they limited them as side characters.

@silversauceran

3 жыл бұрын

which is how life works anyways. it should never be "oh i punch harder so i win" that's ridiculous.

@kaneconqueror6560

3 жыл бұрын

@@silversauceran well, to be fair, it did kinda be that way when we still relied on melee combat. Plate armor granted near immortality on the battlefield and with large weapons it was a matter of just being strong enough to overpower your opponent. Though, there where always those weaker who would have to think if ways to gain an advantage to not get squished. But both paths were valid, and in shows that are based in a gritty melee system like Berserk, it makes sense and works that someone will win just because they are strong enough to hit harder than everyone else. But in berserk the true conflict seems to mainly be psychological. In shows where the fighting is the main conflict and entertainment, the hit it harder method is simply boring writing unless paired with some aditional factors. Tldr, battlefield melee combat is about quickly and efficiently killing as many people as possible, so hit harder is a valid method, but in a 1vs1 duel there is time to study your opponent and fight smart.

“Add 30 more stand users to part 3” please god no

@waffles6280

3 жыл бұрын

Theres like 24, we don't need more.

@exxelsetijadi5348

3 жыл бұрын

At that point, the entire JoJo group would've been wiped out except for Jotaro

@isaiahhackshaw201

3 жыл бұрын

@@exxelsetijadi5348 The way he beat J. D'Arby was the best. Maybe he could just intimidate every stand user he encounters until they just pass out like D'Arby or die of a heart attack?

@danydady6851

3 жыл бұрын

@@exxelsetijadi5348 nah, the only stand users to kill any of the crusaders were vanilla ice and dio himself. It took nothing short of stands that warped the fabric of the universe to stop that crew.

@zacharygiles2984

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaiahhackshaw201 the D'Arby fights were some of my favorite SDC episodes

Katara vs Hama and Zuko vs Azula have some good power scaling as well. Water being has a lot of “push and pull” in it, but when Hama sent water to Katara, she didn’t back down but stood her ground and blocked the water with an earth bending stance. Likewise with Zuko, when Azula is moving around in circles Zuko, at first used typical fire bending forms to try and catch her. When that doesn’t work, he uses an air bending technique with fire to send the fire in a circle to catch Azula. The power ups came from taking what was already there and applying it in different ways, and I really appreciate that take on powering up a character as opposed to other ways.

@mohammadmurie

3 жыл бұрын

Like how Iroh created a way to redirect lightning by studying waterbenders

@punchster289

3 жыл бұрын

YES! I rewatched the show a bit ago and I noticed this happening over and over again. I think your comment dig's deep into this show's philosophy towards bending. Katara was only able to beat azula because she waited and listened for the exact right moment to freeze her and azula in ice, something she learned to do from topf. Aang ofc is the embodiment of that theme, literally studying from benders of all three other elements. jong jong uses fire like a waterbender. In the finale he made walls of fire which behaved very similarly to waves of water, deflecting projectiles and pushing back tanks. In the season one episode, he was shown to be very fond of water bending , its philosophy, and taught aang to use zhao's strength against him like what a waterbender would do. It was no mistake that despite being a firebender his introduction was in book 1: water bumi, apart from having raw power, thinks very much like an airbender. in his first episode, the point of his challenges was to make aang look at problems from a different angle and come up with creative solutions, which is exactly in line with airbending philosophy. Their similar personalities also explain how they got along so well as kids. I think that's also why he refused to teach aang. He knew he had nothing to offer him he couldn't get from any other earthbender. Don't have too many concrete examples regarding him fighting though. he seems to fight basically like any other earthbender, though with more power. The show isn't coy about this theme either. I think Iroh's quote "It's important to draw wisdom from many different places. If you take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale", states it perfectly. The fire nation's critical flaw was that they were jaded, not just in technique but in culture. Iroh knew this better than anyone. He saw the machinery of war took his son's life, and he found a source of firebending removed from the anger and ferocity that had been fueling the fire nation for generations. That stagnent rigidity iroh was talking about was shown in the headband where it was specifically fire nation students' individuality that was suppressed. Regarding fighting/technique, as mohammad pointed out, iroh's discovery of lightning redirection is a prime example of "drawing wisdom from different places", and so are all the other examples we pointed out (katara vs kama, zuko vs azula). Another quote from his same lecture to zuko was "It is the combination of the four elements in one person that makes the Avatar so powerful. But it can make you more powerful, too." This is probably why team avatar, despite being 4 young kids, were shown going toe to toe with some of the world's most powerful benders, people who have probably trained their entire lives. Yes aang is literally the avatar, but Katara, Zuko, and Toph were all not born with extraordinary strength or innate talent. Katara found waterbending awkward in the beginning, Toph is literally blind, and Zuko despite being from the royal family paled in comparison to azula when they were children. The reason they grew so powerful was for the exact reason iroh said, because they trained with and learned from each other constantly. The series shows that people live their entire lives knowing nothing outside their own cultures, and theyre all the lesser for it. By the end of the series the fire nation didn't stand a chance and iroh knew it. He's seen all of aang's teachers and knew what they were all capable of. At the end, he personally saw to it that everyone was in the exact positions they needed to be to end the war. How could the fire nation fleet possibly defeat someone who can bend metal on a metal airship, one of the best war strategists their world had ever known, and a kyoshi warrior. How could azula, completely rigid in her traditional firebending from rage and apathy, possibly defeat zuko, the banished prince who had probably seen the world thrice over, and katara, one of the most inspired water benders of her era. How could ozai, who iroh probably knew better than anyone, defeat aang, the culmination of so much wisdom and training from so many different people, and most importantly the one who could throw ozai's lightning right back in his face. The only reason the aang's battle didn't end right there is because he chose to find another way, and once again the way he found came from an alternate source of wisdom that no one had even considered (the lion turtle).

@punchster289

3 жыл бұрын

also regarding bumi, i guess his bending style can roughly be defined as loose and playful. he makes a smily face in the statue of ozai before toppling it and throwing it off a cliff, and he toys around with the tanks in the finale, plugging the windows they were fire bending out of with rocks before launching them up in the air, even though he could've done that in the first place to the same effect. But once again that's more a statement about his personality than his earthbending technique

@chikirin9349

3 жыл бұрын

"If you take your bending from only one source, it becomes rigid and stale."

@reflex9238

Жыл бұрын

That isn’t power scaling, that’s called writing

I like how in ATLA, it's the supporting characters that learn and harness the more advanced bending techniques. It just shows that no matter how powerful Aang gets with his 4 elements, *his friends are more experienced in their own field.* It's basically a choice between being adept at multiple things, or being a master at 1 thing. Two different approaches to growth in power that doesn't feel like pure ex Machina. Aang doesn't learn Blood/Metal/Whatever comes next bending because he isn't skilled enough in that one field.

@Voxen712

Жыл бұрын

that pfp and name were the work of a genius adnd no one can tell me otherwise

@sniclops15

Жыл бұрын

@@Voxen712 ty 🙂

@maxwellsterling

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's fair to call it a choice between adept and master, as Aang with the 4 elements open to him already has a whole different level of power by using them in synergy instead of by themselves, such as airbenders not having the same resillience as earthbenders and earthbenders not having the same mobility, while Aang can exploit both and is a dangerously versatile fighter because of it. Sure, he doesn't bend metal or whatever, but with the knowledge of all elements he has the weakness of none and the strength of all, while the other benders don't - hence the avatar's massive strength compared to the others.

@kaylonhorohiwa1169

Жыл бұрын

@@maxwellsterling Plus avatar state power growth. Kyoshi separated an island from a continent using it

@renmcmanus

Жыл бұрын

It's far more likely that the show runners needed a way to sale people on the other characters. Otherwise you need to go the DragonBall Z route and have nobody even close to the main character. And come up with excuses for them to actually do stuff.

Notice this: Zuko always grunts in exertion whenever he firebends. But once he learns the true meaning of firebending from the Masters, the grunts stop. There's also the expansion of firebending application from Zuko and Iroh. Airbenders can control their internal temperature by their breathing. Zuko beat the Cooler in the Boiling Rock by breathing fire techniques. When Iroh blocked Zhao's suckerpunch on Zuko when he lost the duel, his stance really resembled an earthbender's. And let's not forget Iroh's and Zuko's signature lightning redirection which came from waterbending culture. Truly, learning of the the world's different cultures and applying them, is what makes you whole.

The reason why avatar power escalation works is because they really hammered down the rules and lore together. It’s simple and surprising easy to understand the rest are your imagination.

@zaydoesthings4378

3 жыл бұрын

Yep but then in the legend of Korra they completely destroyed that in which they made it so the narrative fit korras story not korras story fitting the narrative that was already in placed years before hand

@deversus8857

3 жыл бұрын

@@zaydoesthings4378 You mind explaining? I think the power escalation in TLOK is still fairly simple.

@zaydoesthings4378

3 жыл бұрын

@@deversus8857 I mean the world building and the rules of the first show were destroyed

@deversus8857

3 жыл бұрын

@@zaydoesthings4378 I don’t think it was necessarily destroyed, if anything it expanded more on the lore

@casper3105

3 жыл бұрын

@@deversus8857 nah it completely bends the lore backwards to fit Korras narrative, now korra does have its great moments for sure if you watch Korra without having any knowledge of TLA then yes it's a solid show, but it is direct Sequel to ATLA a series that has already established it's lore and how the world works but Korra was like "yea no fuck it". for example instead of bloodbending working only during the full moon when the waterbenders powers are at peak, now in korra you can master bloodbending without the fullmoon, they can even bend it during a daylight oh and you can take away someones bending with the bloodbending like this is just something youd read in a poorly written fanfiction. but theres no greater example of the show coming up with shit on spot than Rava which is like midichlorians in star wars, and its something that even the die hard star wars fans are like "yea we are just gonna ignore it".

''Jojo's power never change'' - Star Finger send its regards

@blindbeholder9713

3 жыл бұрын

He was capable of it from the moment Star Platinum appeared and never lost access to it. It just isn't very useful outside of Jotaro being restrained.

@joaorugeri9885

3 жыл бұрын

the power never changed. it just isnt as useful as people think it is.

@m.f.m.8290

3 жыл бұрын

Part 3 JoJo is full of asspulls, from the very first episode, Part 1 or 4 would've fit better

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

@@m.f.m.8290 Wait you watched part 2 and part 3 is the one you're calling out for having asspulls? Have you stopped thinking? P.S.: No offense meant, just a meme

@roserose109

3 жыл бұрын

@@m.f.m.8290 from the very _first_ episode? Complete bull tbh

one point i saw first on reddit was that you can see zuko use stances influenced by other styles of bending to win the final agni kai, showing how much he’s grown, and also how interconnection and willingness to learn from others can make you a stronger person

@caiorocha1049

3 жыл бұрын

He also learned that from Iroh. He explained that if you only seek knowledge from one source, it becomes frail and weak. That's why Iroh can redirect lightning, he developed that technique from water benders. So Zuko and the rest of Team Avatar adapting the styles and mentalities from each other into their own makes a lot of sense to make them more powerful, as well as character growth

@augustday9483

3 жыл бұрын

@@caiorocha1049 I really like how that lesson ties back into the central idea of the Avatar bringing together the four elements into something that is greater than the sum of its parts. Even characters who aren't the Avatar can learn from other bending styles and become stronger.

@caiorocha1049

3 жыл бұрын

@@augustday9483 yeah, truly a master piece ( ˘ ³˘)

I completely agree. Plot armour and unrealistic power ups completely ruin a story

@nathannguyen8038

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds exactly like every bleach fight

@yoyoyo9035

3 жыл бұрын

Naruto after the Pain arc suffers from this. Makes me incredibly disappointed in the war arc.

@hotpotcoconut6994

3 жыл бұрын

@@yoyoyo9035 yeah the war arc ruined naruto for me

@IAm-zo1bo

3 жыл бұрын

You never know dude for some people that might be better

@hotpotcoconut6994

3 жыл бұрын

@@IAm-zo1bo yeah for children

Younglings: “Araki, there are too many powerful stands. What are we going to do?” Araki Writing part 6: *unsheathes lightsaber*

@lewascan2676

3 жыл бұрын

😅😂🤣😂🤣👍👍

Dang now I wanna rewatch both of these shows

@dankmoon949

3 жыл бұрын

Injust rewatch avatar and korra after years and I 100% recommend watching them again if you're interested plus idk if you know but theres a new animated avatar in the work rn I remember reading something about the old crew getting back together after they left the netflix show cause Netflix was controlling (what did they expect tho lol)

@alfonsocruz6100

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@Nepalien_

3 жыл бұрын

watch jojo from part 1

I dont think Zuko was more powerful than Azula at the end. At least not because of training. The only reason he could match her was because she was having a mental breakdown. Even being completely calm and collected while she was having a psychotic break they were still pretty even, and if Azula were fighting at full capacity she definitely wouldn't have been tripped up.. But he was definitely much much closer to her in power than he was in book 2.

@lightman9935

3 жыл бұрын

Still, if you watch the fight again, in terms of raw power he actually managed to get on par with her and even maybe surpass her, you can see it in the fight where they exchange blows, Zuko's red fire and Azula's blue fire had equal range and size (and no, if Azula was calm the power of her fire bolts wouldnt've changed, her strategy and techniques would though) We also see that Zuko matched her power in a previous episode where Azula attacks them at the air temple and her and Zuko had a duel where they both got knocked out, but even then i believe that Zuko would had an edge over her because he became more disciplined throughout his journey and learn more techniques form a lot of different people.

@EggEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightman9935 Exaclty. Zuko has learned even from the original benders and his bending source comes from a different source than most benders. He simply has superior technic and mind

@phlpcockrell

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightman9935 his attacks were mostly smaller than hers. But they didn't need to be bigger or even equal. They just needed to be able to dispel hers, which he was able to do masterfully. And yes. If Azula were calm the power would change. Collateral damage didn't matter to her so she could go all out, resulting in bigger attacks. Azula completely outclassed zuko for most of the series. But in terms of raw physical strength zuko probably has the edge which is why a point blank attack knocked her back as well. But it was an indication to the audience that Zuko was much closer to her level than he used to be. Considering how completely outmatched zuko was in book 2, it's much more believable zuko would be at her level through training (since Azula doesn't train) and learning true firebending than actually surpassing her. Even zuko says he can only take her because she's "slipping"

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, interesting perspective, I never really think about power in such a pure way as I think it's a bit of an antics issue. I'd agree that in that perspective, Azula is certainly more powerful, I think the blue fire (it being so much hotter than any other bender we see) speaks for itself. However, when you take a broader look at their fight, their power doesn't just come from bending, it's very much about technique. After Azulas breakdown, I would say Zuko was actually more powerful - if you look at their conversation right before she zaps Katara, Zuko is still at full strength, while Azula is quite taken aback. Also during the fight, Zuko is the only one who manages to deliver a strike that sets her off-balance. Honestly, I think if Azula hadn't decided to hit Katara, Zuko would've come out on top in that fight. Though again, I totally understand your view too and it could totally swing the other way. At the end of the day, I think we're looking into it too much already :D Appreciate the comment though! :)

@kevind3974

3 жыл бұрын

Also her whole thing with her mastery and power was control and perfection. By breaking down she loses some of her main foundry’s of her natural ability. In a sense her final fight would be more comparable to someone going into a blood rage, she was not in crontrol.

2:06 just realised toph gives herself a hole to see through the rock armour despite being blind lol

@rush4in

Жыл бұрын

That was actually a mistake on the animators' part. It was supposed to be a mouth hole

I think another reason these work are because the power escalation doesn't happen in the middle of a battle. Any gap in raw power is overcome by strategy, or the character loses/runs away. Even Jotaro's realization of the nature of his stand was slightly foreshadowed by people mentioning his stand's speed seems "so fast it looks like stopping time".

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure could be summed up pretty easily as third-dimensional chess with a lot of violence and cool abilities.

@SnailSnail-lo4pm

3 жыл бұрын

No, fifth dimensional checkers

@Nepalien_

3 жыл бұрын

ist chess already 3d?

@HyoureiKyouran

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nepalien_ Nope

@richardlionerheart1945

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nepalien_ nah the chess board only has 2 dimensions

@saucevc8353

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardlionerheart1945 Ummmmm... Knight?

Toph's metal bending actually is such a huge power spike. The difference is that it's entirely deserved. Toph hadn't actually mastered neutral jin until she was forced to use it outside the comfort of her ground. Neutral jin isn't just something you perform in control, it's also something to perform outside control to regain it. We see exactly this in the most overt practitioner of it. Bumi had no idea of the black sun. This is the beginning of the end of Toph's character arc. The one where she runs away when she lost power. Now, like the ultimate earthbender, she sits back and listens. This manifests in 'aye aye, captain', which will never not make me feel emotional. Performing neutral jin as she trusts Sokka.

@Chris-ks4sw

Жыл бұрын

Katara has much bigger power spikes constantly. End of the 1st book, end of the second book and the start of the 3rd book

Zuko’s power progression also comes with him taking Iroh’s advice by using elements of the other bending styles. He uses a big flowing water bending move to create a literal wave of fire to protect himself, or when he busts out the earth bending wide base style to form a type of barrier. I always really appreciate this detail because it fits the ideology of martial arts in general. The most skilled fighters are the ones that embrace many styles and use the elements of various styles to improve upon the skills you have/prefer

"when he's outmatched, he loses or runs", more series need to do this, good xianxia novels do this all the time as well, with the main characters generally always going into battles with at the very least an escape plan. And avatar clearly gets a lot of inspiration from those.

@jsus159

3 жыл бұрын

Hunter x hunter also does this

@ezequielinsaurralde5058

3 жыл бұрын

They Didint Really had a plan, but in DBZ And Súper the Z-Warriors has to constly escape Against Frieza Soldiers Like Dodoria Zarbon And Escaped Goku Black

@bri1085

3 жыл бұрын

It was one of Joseph's technics in part 2

@vasamatijasevic1948

3 жыл бұрын

Nigerundayoo

@genoob5843

Жыл бұрын

You mean the joestar family secret technique?

JoJo's and avatar? What's next, a video including code geass and clone wars?

@ruby_dragon4034

3 жыл бұрын

i mean there are some things between the 2 that can create interesting videos

@indrickboreale7381

3 жыл бұрын

"Power in fire bending comes from the breath, not the muscle" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@Simianking2

3 жыл бұрын

This but unironically

@nandkolo725

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be happy

@psykosav6459

3 жыл бұрын

I love 2003 clones Wars it’s so underrated

I feel like power creep in JoJo's is settled by the concept of Parts with the Creep resetting each part. In Part 1,2 and 3 the entire world is threatened. Meanwhile in Part 4 a small town named Morioh is threatened.

@LightVelox

Жыл бұрын

Even then, you could take a lot of villains from Part 3 and they would have a solid chance of beating people from Part 4, 5 and 6. Even if they didn't reset each part the fact each power is unique means there can always be situations when the "op protagonist" can lose(unless you're Giorno), just like how Jotaro was defeated by a rat in Part 4, the rat just had a good ability and predicted Jotaro's movements

@TheWidestSunEnjoyer

Жыл бұрын

In part 4, the concept of time running is threatened

"The same powers they always had" Starfinger: Am I a joke to you?

@Nepalien_

3 жыл бұрын

oMgg WHY diDNT Joatro USE STRA FInger TOI KILLL PUCKI MAED IN HAvEN????? ARKI ForgoT!!!!!!!1111111

@cardinalcabinet3263

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes because star finger would've been *sooo* useful against DIO or Bug Eaten

@porkadillo9752

3 жыл бұрын

@@cardinalcabinet3263 It's still power creep, and still a Deus ex Machina, even if Araki was smart enough to never put Jotaro in a situation where he'd need it again. Introducing an unforeshadowed ability to resolve a conflict is always bad writing regardless of what happens afterwards. If anything Araki stating that he couldn't find a use for it later on just makes it look worse, because he's essentially admitting that he created Star Finger just to conveniently resolve one fight.

@cardinalcabinet3263

3 жыл бұрын

@@porkadillo9752 two fights*

@MamaTrixxieAsmr

3 жыл бұрын

@@porkadillo9752 two, actually, although I'm blanking on what the second one was, but the thing is, it also wasn't USEFUL outside of those two instances. It also does make sense, but noth without context- Star Platinun has high precision, and high strength. Star finger is a focused attack through the fingers of Star platinum isn't as strong as a punch, and it's not much more range than star platinum's own but is useful in the rare situation in which a close range fighter would need an attack that sacraficed some strength to gain some range. Also: How are you going to single out star finger when it's shown that the bodies of stands can be manipulated/ the rules were more lenient in part 3? Just naming off a few examples: HG&SC vs The lovers- both stands shrink Silver chariot: Shooting the sword. Magician's red:All we're told is that he can manipulate fire, nothing about that says he'd be able to create a fire trap, like with the Crossfire hurricane variation Star finger is just another one of part 3 using stats as soft rules rather than hard limits(looking at you, part 5, those bullets wouldn't have veered off into the building just because the 6 Pistols can't go far enough to stay with them...that's bs.)

When you introduce a new power, it should often come with a limitation so as not to overwhelm your magic system. Like you can only bloodbend during the full moon. You did really well with this. good job.

@EggEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

Depends. I feel like some power creep is acceptable. Like in dragon ball when Goku first get super sayain. That’s cool and yeah the enemies would now have to get stronger to keep up, it’s no big deal and a worthy trade off. The problem dragon ball has though is that it didn’t do this just once or twice, instead it became the entire story. The characters just keep getting stronger and stronger and stronger with no limits. Now they went from fighting tournaments on earth to fighting literal gods

@vojtechkorhon4159

3 жыл бұрын

@@EggEnjoyer the biggest downside to that is how other characters aren't relevant anymore

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, I think its exactly how you put it. Some power creep certainly isn't a problem, it becomes an issue when it's constant and the series goes on for an extremely long time. The 2nd part of this mini series is a prime example of it - constantly bringing in more and more powerful characters, by the end of the series you're fighting a literal higher consciousness.

@EggEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@vojtechkorhon4159 Yeah that’s why you can’t over do the power creep. Sometimes it’s cool to think “wow I can’t believe this guy was a threat at one point”. But then it gets it the point where you just start disrespecting any of your formerly strong character

@marethyu_77gamer93

3 жыл бұрын

@@EggEnjoyer Exactly, this is also a feel cery present in Seven Deadly Sins, where the Holy Knights that used to be a threat in s1 are already heavily outclassed mid S2. . . And don't get me started on their final power levels, at this point it's literally being too powerful for the world to hadle their presence (at least Meliodas)

A video that talks about ATLA *and* JJBA.... Was this video tailor made for me? How long have you been watching me??

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

I'm always watching. Always.

@mega4614

3 жыл бұрын

@@Koroto And that's why you should use NordVPN so people don't spy on you!

i mean, 2 stands in ALL of jojo's are exempt from the power system. Koichi's Echoes, and Johnny's Tusk. They are both fundamentally incomplete, and gain more abilities as they grow as people. It's not exactly part 3 specific.

@berzebu

3 жыл бұрын

The shortest route was a detour

@ForgeofAule

3 жыл бұрын

But they reached a limit I would say. Tusk Act 4 unlocks infinite rotation, and you can't get much more rotation than infinite. Koichi's Reverb finally reached its final stage as he reached maturity, and I don't think it would ever become Act 4.

@nihili4196

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForgeofAule Tusk act 4 is pretty much overpowered, even with requirements to use it. It mirrors Johnny's growth tho. As for Echoes, we don't know if Koichi is capable of maturing his stand even further. Maybe he is, maybe he's not. But that would probably come only if he was to grow as person, and he's pretty much a matured fighter already.

@kanseidorifto2430

3 жыл бұрын

Johnny’s Tusk is probably my favorite stand, because it’s different forms are a mirrored representation of personal growth in confidence and knowledge, while also tying in heavily to the laws of the SBR universe.

@m.f.m.8290

3 жыл бұрын

Echoes gets increasingly stronger but increasingly specific powers. But he's able to revert to a previous form IIRC he uses part 1 when he already had part 2

I just realised now how much Avatar and JJBA part 3 are similar, like 2 groups travelling to stop an OP overlord in the desert, its uncanny

@DSan-kl2yc

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. A group travelling is very common. Think any rpg.

@karaqakkzl

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Ozai vs Aang is something like Boros vs Saitama

@bloopboop9320

Жыл бұрын

Ozai wasn't hiding out in a desert. The final battle ended up in a desert, but honestly it looked more like DBZ.

@josechamu240

Жыл бұрын

No nigga.

All i got from the Avatar analysis is that Toph basically saved the world.

@yothisdogisbehavinggoofyaf5248

3 жыл бұрын

Toph is chad

Something that I felt needed mentioned a bit more with Bloodbending: You did mention how it was designed to show us Katara's character growth, and I do agree with you. What I think should be further elaborated is that Hanna is, at least to me, designed to be a parallel to Katara. Hanna let her anger and hatred of the fire nation and its conquest control her actions after her capture. She learned Bloodbending *specifically* to get back at her captors and torture them like they tortured her. This is meant to be a brief glance into what Katara could've been. She does hate the Fire Nation for taking her mom away from her and ruining her people's livelihoods, but at the same time she manages to control that hatred and use it as fuel to work towards productive things like helping Aang learn Water-bending and helping him save the world and stop Ozai. Unlike Hanna she did not let that hate fuel a quest for revenge. Your point of how we only see bloodbending twice is essentially the capstone to this discussion. The first time we see it is when it's introduced, and the second time we see it is when Katara is letting her hatred fuel her actions in an unhealthy way by pursuing the man who took her mother away. She begins to recede back on her own path she's been walking and starts down the path that Hanna went down, but unlike Hanna she realizes what she's doing is wrong and in the end is unable to "go over the edge" by killing him, unlike Hanna who spent the rest of her life torturing Fire Nation citizens via Bloodbending.

How to curb your power creep; reset the universe but then give the next protagonist the second strongest stand in the series But I’ll give Araki credit, the abilities of the villains are exponentially more powerful than the protagonists, to the point that the protags strongest attack can be easily shrugged off, forcing the them to rethink their approach

@colmlooney5843

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the power of the newest antagonist part 8. Araki really taking this exponential power scaling thing seriously...

@lucidlullaby894

3 жыл бұрын

@@colmlooney5843 Wonder of U is what I was referencing to with “Protags strongest attack gets shrugged off”. I can’t wait to see how Gappy finally lands a hit on it

@ryanspence5831

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucidlullaby894 reread a few chapters back, the special bubbles are not the ones on his fingers, but the ones that come from his shoulder; the bubble that got shot through the phone with paisley park should bypass calamity and probably kill or injure tooru

@lucidlullaby894

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanspence5831 I haven’t been keeping up with Jojolion, only checked out 105 because I heard so much happened at once, but yeah you’re right the parried bubble was a regular shot

@sinuset4629

3 жыл бұрын

johnny can only use infinite rotation when he has the perfect golden ratio made with his horse, he still has his limitations and can’t just whip it out for fun. and even then, he spent the entirety of the story working to achieve this and only got to use it twice. unless you mean gappy in which case i have no idea, i haven’t read enough yet

My favourite quote is that Avatar: The last Airbender is just one huge training arc

Just a correction, the lightning bending is also used by Iroh, just see the second book, when he is teaching Zuko the redirection technic, he tries to teach too the use of lightning. Sub forms of bending are created by a fully understand of one off the four main first styles, and goes a pass away - lightning, blood, sand, steel - the elements are present everywhere, learning how to communicate with they is the key to achieve a special way to bend. Great video, good job

@lightman9935

3 жыл бұрын

I think he meant that he didnt use it in a fight, he only countered other people's lightning bolts

@thyagobraga641

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightman9935 the way what he talked doesn't is much exact about this, but yes, i can see too now you bring this

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Iroh never uses it as an offensive tool, he only ever uses it in the form of self-defense. Even when he's teaching Zuko, he mentions that under no circumstances would he ever lightning bend at him as a form of practice, saying that, if Zuko's lucky, he would never have to use the redirection technique either. As I said in the video - Azula and Ozai are the only characters we see who use it offensively. Perhaps I should've elaborated on it a little more though :)

@nihili4196

3 жыл бұрын

Well, from the flashbacks to siege of Ba Sing se we see that Iroh wasn't always as good as he is now. I wouldn't call him a stone heart killer even back then, but it would make sense he was able to master lightning if it takes murder intention or something like that to use it. Heck, he could've re-invent the technique later. But point still stands: Iroh never used lightning against anyone

@cameroncaws5959

3 жыл бұрын

@@Koroto Iron does use lightning to blast through a wall when running from Azula at Be Sing Se. It seems lightning can be used for more than just murder.

A reason why both of these shows are perfect.

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention JoJo's fabulous poses, which make men question their heterosexuality

@Jr-yb8lg

3 жыл бұрын

@@runtergerutscht4401 ...no bro that's just you lol.

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jr-yb8lg you haven't seen enough of the JoJo fandom, then

@patrickbasedman5255

3 жыл бұрын

@@runtergerutscht4401 stone ocean made my heterosexuality come back

@K.G444

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jr-yb8lg Lol 😂 you mad funny mane

finally KZread's recommendation algorithm brought me to some quality content Keep up the good work!

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

❤

Korotos: "Lightning in Avatar is used to show us that these characters are essentially cold blooded killers" Palpatine: "The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural" Checks out.

dragon ball and naruto are the biggest offenders of power creep

@indrickboreale7381

3 жыл бұрын

[clears throat] IT'S OVER 9000!

@KhaosAdmiral

3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that at least everything before Z was at least scaled generally pretty well all things considered.

@lordlopikong6940

3 жыл бұрын

No problem because they are OG shounen shows. The new shoes are the problem that's reusing it's concepts

@timetraveler5547

3 жыл бұрын

Naruto definitely managed to keep a hold on power creep for most of the series. At least until the war arc then it just completely exploded. DragonBall definitely has power creep issues from the frieza saga onwards.

@bri1085

3 жыл бұрын

@@KhaosAdmiral Not really the Goku was made far too powerful by the second arc

Can we all just agree that Aang was an amazing earthbender? He had the most trouble with that while training, but it became his second best element.

@matthewkuscienko4616

Жыл бұрын

That's actually quite an interesting point, as it goes to show how he had to adapt his way of thinking as the series progressed to learn the other 3 bending styles. It also goes to show how flexible he had become by the end of the series, too, not just in terms of all the bending styles he was able to utilize, but also his capability to use different tactics depending upon the situation

I think One Piece does a great job with power escalation. Sure, there are overpowered characters, but they were like that since the start. Presenting your top contenders early just makes the escalation easier. Even when you introduce a new system midstory, like Haki, your top contenders are still top contenders. The only difficulty is that you have to stay faithful to the level of those top treaths and don't overcomplicate them.

@gktte2574

3 жыл бұрын

nahhh

@alemdalendia

3 жыл бұрын

I dind’t agree, here in mycontry got a meme from one piece. Dont matter the threat, “zoro sole” (in the meaning, beat 1v1) Like, “omg someone beat luffy” “FODASE O ZORO SOLA”

@KingJinzo2125

3 жыл бұрын

I was bout to comment something similar to you lol

@gktte2574

3 жыл бұрын

@@KingJinzo2125 no

@KingJinzo2125

3 жыл бұрын

@@gktte2574 yes

The legend of Aang: A good person with bad skill learns how to continue to be good even in hardship, and develop skill. The legend of Kora: A bad person with great skill learns how to improve themselves even if pampered, and refine skill. It makes sense why people felt a certain disconnect with both series. They're totally reversed beats and arcs.

@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.

3 жыл бұрын

Korra isn't a bad person

@thesquishedelf1301

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. oh, she is at the start of the show. Classic teen who is a bad person because fuck you, you can’t tell them what to do.

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. She wasn't evil but extremely reckless and overconfident. She fought triads (a good thing) but caused a crapload of collateral damage (a bad thing) and didn't even acknowledge the harm she caused (a really bad thing). These sort of things make up the first season.

@8bitdiedie

3 жыл бұрын

Since when does Aang have bad skill? Maybe in other elements, but his airbending is bonkers.

@runtergerutscht4401

3 жыл бұрын

@@8bitdiedie at the beginning of the series. Aang started off knowing only airbending, while Korra started her series not only as a skilled fighter but also proficient in 3 elements.

''even the most over powered stands have a weakness'' Gold Experience Requiem would like to know your location

@owo4288

3 жыл бұрын

The only weakness that I can actually think of is the stand can only protect Giorno physically and is vulnerable to rewrite reality. So the only way to beat him is to either traumatize him to the point of suicide or achieve Heaven.

@jarjarbinks6698

3 жыл бұрын

@@owo4288 so ger can be only beaten by heaven stands

@almightyodin7305

3 жыл бұрын

What about acasuals(beings who aren't affected by cause and effect), they can easily beat giorno since ger won't affect them

@sarpius4710

3 жыл бұрын

@@almightyodin7305 that means at least nigh omnipotence and yes they could defeat Giorno but that would be defeating Giorno through superior strength rather than exploiting a weakness

@SteveIsHavingMC

2 жыл бұрын

@@almightyodin7305 i think such creatures would have bigger concerns than fighting some 15 year old with weird clothes tbh

Krotos: “The series can even introduce seemingly extremely overpowered abilities.” Wonder of U: “Allow me to introduce myself.”

@petar1196

3 жыл бұрын

that stand is insane

@mirzapramudya1580

Жыл бұрын

To be quite fair, WoU isn't exactly OP, it's only OP because the cast is always put in a situation that benefits Tooru in every way possible

I disagree with the idea that the avatar state became more powerful by the end, Ang in the avatar state just used power equal to the threat level he was facing.

@kevind3974

3 жыл бұрын

He also looses control some times. In a sense his avatar state is kinda like azulas final fight. It’s lacking that control and is in a rage. Their both vary powerful in this state but both azula and the avatar state works best in a controlled and precise measure not raging about.

@Birthday888

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevind3974 Also, the Avatar State grants the user the knowledge and skill of all the past Avatars, but it doesn't make the user able to apply them in the best possible way. Like how Aang chose to freeze himself inside of an iceberg instead of simply water bending his way out. Aang's Avatar State is at its most powerful during his fight with Ozai because, at that point, Aang has mastered all four elements and is able to truly take advantage of the power that the Avatar State grants him.

Another point is that DIO himself even says in Part 6 that there are no bad Stands, just bad situations to use them. That's why Part 5 has some of the best fights imo, we see Stand users put themselves in the most advantageous position before ambushing their opponents tactically.

This is a great analysis, by how you relating bending to mental progression and outlook, you really show a deeper understanding of the storytelling

pretty good video. l love talk about power escalation and how different series handle it and how even some solve the problem correctly like as you said avatar and jojos

This just reminds me that avatar was so well written and it ended exactly like the author wanted.

Great video man. Crisp and detailed. Please keep up the good work.

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch! :) Will do! 👍

"Weird enemy stands" *laughs in Jojolion*

@SnailSnail-lo4pm

3 жыл бұрын

*laughs in snails*

@Nepalien_

3 жыл бұрын

@@SnailSnail-lo4pm laughs in president

As a person absolutely obsessed with JoJo and avatar, I feel like this video was made for me

What's cool is that even by the end of part 7, where Johnny had one of the most powerful stands in the series, Diego(AU) still managed to defeat him with strategy and determination. This really shows how Araki still manages to keep the stakes high after all these years

@lain5858

3 жыл бұрын

GER, Made in Heaven and Wonder of U are still stronger than Tuska

@librask3009

2 жыл бұрын

@@lain5858 he said one of, not the strongest 🤦‍♂️

@lain5858

2 жыл бұрын

@@librask3009 Ok then

@khangle6872

Жыл бұрын

@@lain5858 Made in Heaven can be beaten by a kid. Also by a knife if Jolyne throw to his throat when he was swimming So no matter how powerful your stand are, the stakes still high

@lain5858

Жыл бұрын

@@khangle6872 No. Made in heaven was beaten by Weather Report (one of the most broken stands).

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure the entire series is basically like playing a video game and its sequels

Wow this is definitely one of the best put together KZread videos on anime I've seen! Had me thinking constant

8:52 It continued in the comics btw. They are less over character evolution, and more over personal insights and politics

10:47 Literally the only two stand users that you wouldn't be able to change the order of and have everything still work is the D'arby brothers.

6:05 Toph’s metalbending, bloodbending, and lighting. Sounds like toph is OP

Bro these are two perfect examples. Avatar and Jojos were the two first anime I watched (yes I count avatar as an anime fight me) and I love that you used them for the video. Great content

This was really interesting and well made. Good work! Looking forward to the next part

Katara seemed to be the only one to suffer from power creep. She went through the 1st season slowly improving till she fights pakuu - suddenly she's bending ice disks and gliding all over the floor like a master.

@PaulPower4

Жыл бұрын

Katara in S1 is an interesting one because it feels like a lot of the time the thing holding her back is overthinking and a lack of confidence - as early as The Kyoshi Warriors she does something pretty impressive when she drains Aang's lungs and saves him from drowning, but that's sort of the point - it's an emergency, she doesn't have time to think. But then in Jet she's doubting herself saying she hasn't bent water she can't see before when, y'know, she has. But when it's an emergency, or when she's angry (like, say, her fights with Jet and Pakku) her raw ability kicks in more. Actual training under a master helps her realise that she can be that strong all the time, but for both Katara and Sokka there's definitely a bit of a Wizard-of-Oz "turns out the thing you wanted was something you had all along" vibe going on. Although just on a general level her confidence does slowly increase over S1 - partly from the trust and teamwork she develops with Aang, partly from the overthinking playing to her advantage at times given that in the background she seems to be constantly practising, experimenting with and analysing waterbending. This analytical side probably helps her learn quickly from Pakku, and comes in to play in later seasons when she starts adapting techniques from other elements (the earthbending-style "block" in the fight with Hama, her "breath of steam" trick in her final fight with Azula, arguably the water column when she escapes with Aang at the end of S2 has a bit of airbending influence to it) or when she picks up on bloodbending very quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if, as Aang got increasingly good at waterbending, she spent a lot of her downtime watching Toph and, eventually, Zuko train Aang and taking notes.

"...without introducing a random power-up." Star Finger and So The World Is The Same Type of Stand As Star Platinum: "Am I a joke to you?"

@SnailSnail-lo4pm

3 жыл бұрын

The world is hinted to be similar to star platinum and he does have an A in development potential.

@milestone1719

3 жыл бұрын

The D'arby brothers have the same type of stand ability!!!! DIO HAS JONATHAN'S BODY AND THE BODY WAS SENDING DISTRESS SIGNALS THUS AWAKENING THE STANDS OF EVERYONE THAT HAS JOESTAR BLOOD. THE WORLD AND STAR PLATINUM IS THE SAME TYPE OF STAND WATCH HAMON BEAT'S VIDEO ABOUT DEBUNKING ARAKI FORGOT FOR GOD SAKES

@votch2798

3 жыл бұрын

@@milestone1719 Joseph, Josuke, Giorno and Jolyne also have the same type of stand as The World.

@alfa01spotivo

3 жыл бұрын

i dont get this. SC and the World are both power type stands with close range

Another video that makes me appreciate Avatar more. Thanks!

Another Reason why Jojo is a great anime but people underestimate its greatness

“JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure handles power creep perfectly.” Yeah it went from Sunlight magic to Restarting the fucking universe.

Ah Yes, Jojo with its primary example of good power-scaling techniques "So it's the same kind of stand as Star Platinum"

@colmlooney5843

3 жыл бұрын

I.thought the same way too. Its the only real stand-out fight where the audience is left scratching their head because jojo didn't actually use his current abilities to overcome dio, he's just given a new one. Most other fights use creative interpretation of a characters abilities, this ones just like, nah were not so different you and I...

@jsus159

3 жыл бұрын

@@colmlooney5843 Have you watched part 5 ending? It also happen there

@colmlooney5843

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsus159 Yeah, i was just referencing part 3, as was done in the video. Atleast part 5's bs is explained, you touch this arrow, your stand goes super saiyan. Part 3 is just like "I also can do what you are doing"

@royplatt455

3 жыл бұрын

@@colmlooney5843 interestingly, it's possibly foreshadowed slightly throughout the season. The drink and cigarette against D'arby and the bullets are good examples.

@yakobi8434

3 жыл бұрын

Part 3 deserves a redo. Someone should retell it with some added *explicit scenes of Star Platinum's abilities. Also trim some of the unnecessary fights in the beginning (or at least use the episodes to grow the Crusaders relationships more). Araki is a really good artist and writer but he just needs to clarify stuff.

Very nice video. Good editing and excellent analisys

great analysis of Avatar. thanks for reminding me how incredible this show is

And then there is me saying "fuck that cliché shit" And goes for full on power fantasy shows. I like those way more.

Kitara is the only one who instantly got a power jump. She learned bloodbending instantly.

@firstnamebunchofnumbers1543

3 жыл бұрын

Beeing fair, She did was victim of bloodbending minutes before, that might give her an idea of how bloodbending works.

@user-sc8mj5bb6k

3 жыл бұрын

@@firstnamebunchofnumbers1543 Not to mention factors like survival instinct kicking in and the fight or flight response. It has been shown in real life that under incredible pressure and stress humans can perform supernatural feats of strength and intelligence. My favorite example is that of a little girl getting trapped under car, where upon hearing her screams for help the father came out of the house and without thinking he leaped over her. And then he proceeds to lift the *3 metric fucking TON* vehicle while pulling her out.

@s-wo8781

3 жыл бұрын

@@firstnamebunchofnumbers1543 nah stop with the fair shit. It ain't fair.

@silversauceran

3 жыл бұрын

@@s-wo8781 well it was only under a full moon though, too. she can't use it whenever.

i really liked this little video!! idk why but the subject was really interesting to me :))

This is really thoughtfully explained and important to understand as an artist thanks

Zuko didn't beak azula because of skill. He beat her because he learned to open himself up and to allow people to help him. Azula was the strongest firebender aside from firelord, but zuko overcame her with the help of katara. The ability to trust others allowed zuko to overcome lonely strength.

2 REALLY well written series. REALLY well written analysis as well

@randomguy-yl2ml

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest jojo part 3 wasn't that good

@java1.130

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomguy-yl2ml Part 3 was pretty good but it's also my second to last favorite jojo part right after part 1

@Nepalien_

3 жыл бұрын

@@java1.130 same lmao

@alfa01spotivo

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomguy-yl2ml it was that good. It had a really fun episodic style with an insanely likable main cast with great fights all the time and a great power system and an amazing ending

@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7

Жыл бұрын

@@alfa01spotivo Jotaro in SC was meh, DiU really made him a better character

You analysis of avatar is so spot on like the fact katara uses the breath of fire when fight azula in the last fight,this show was so intricate with the powers

Something about Avatar, the characters, the writing, everything… it just makes me so happy and brings a tear to my eye

Just got yourself a new subscriber

Gotta love how there is not a single Jojo fan complaining in the comments but every single Avatar fan i screaming about some tiny-ass detail the guy got wrong

@an18yearoldmongolianguy

3 жыл бұрын

average ATLA hardcore fan vs average Jojo enthusiast

@komos3719

3 жыл бұрын

tbf a lot of JoJo's "rules" can be played pretty fast and loose.

@karbyboi8489

3 жыл бұрын

I bet if he got something wrong about jojo this would’ve been a different story 🥱

@maarten9272

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see many fans complaining about him but we do like to scream at The Legend of Korra.

@FilmGuy7000

3 жыл бұрын

@@maarten9272 We don't talk about that show.....

Great video man! :)

This is a great video. I really like your work sir.

@Koroto

3 жыл бұрын

❤

11:59 - I think you meant to say "Bizarre" here.

11:15 "Let's take the most extreme example: stopping time" Lmao he doesn't know about Wonder of U

Great analysis, keep this story alive long after im gone.

Something else i love about the final Agni Kai and Zuko's progression is that during the fight, he using moves very reminiscent of the other elements, connecting back to what Iroh taught him

Actually that was Jojos problem in part 3. There were too many villains without any downtime to know the characters that it got exhausting. Every episode is a battle with another stand user. We could've used a few episodes of just the squad chilling and doing silly shit.

@uhohmykokoro1616

3 жыл бұрын

Oof I feel the exact same way 😫

@lain5858

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@lukayaroslav9914

Жыл бұрын

Turns out, filler is necessary in jjba

@s-wo8781

Жыл бұрын

@@lukayaroslav9914 Because of this bump I'll bring up Golden Wind and Stone Ocean have the same problem, but to a lesser extent. I still knew nothing about most of these characters in these two parts. You actually never learn what life was like for Jolyne having Jotaro for a dad or anything about Ermes really and it's a shame because Jolyne is the only female Jojo in the entire series.

@lukayaroslav9914

Жыл бұрын

@@s-wo8781 Their back stories are explained though.

The only power creep you see in Jojo is often on the villains' side, like Kira and Pucci. But their opponents have more regular stands that require creativity to reach their fullest potential

Wow one of my two favorite shows I never thought I'll see together in a video

this is a topic about which I feel very strongly, great video