How to grind a tapered tang (🤔?) - knife maker's vlog - (always try something new in knife making)

In today's vlog, I'm going to try and grind a tapered tang. I've never done it before, but, I think I have an idea that might work. Let's see.
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  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Rainy and cold here in Brazil. Love your videos.

  • @pmcmva
    @pmcmva6 жыл бұрын

    You have a gift for identifying in your processes the little tips and tricks that you've learned so that you can pass them on. It helps me to remember to be thinking "how would I teach this -- is there something to pass along here?" as I'm doing similar work. Thanks

  • @mramanya
    @mramanya6 жыл бұрын

    Neat trick to make your lines for the bevel.

  • @bobn9447
    @bobn94476 жыл бұрын

    Great info on the way to do a taper tang, trying your plan tonight. Great vid and best to you and yours.

  • @jejedark6099
    @jejedark60996 жыл бұрын

    Jacklore knives has a really great tutorial on how to gring tapered tangs :)

  • @hoold01

    @hoold01

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yep.....Jacklore is a tapered tang legend.

  • @fyrpiper
    @fyrpiper6 жыл бұрын

    A couple of kydex tips...1) do the edge finishing on the sheath opening prior to riveting. Makes it way easier to get in there. 2) use 1/4-20 bolts and nuts to hold both halves off sheath together as temporary rivets for shaping, polishing, etc.

  • @sloth0629
    @sloth06296 жыл бұрын

    something that i will be considering for a future build thanks for idea...

  • @Keith_the_knife_freak
    @Keith_the_knife_freak6 жыл бұрын

    As always. Nice work!!👍👍👍

  • @salirezakm
    @salirezakm6 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic choice of music for this video by the way

  • @henrysulser8205
    @henrysulser82056 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeremy. Just a quick tip. If you hollow out the Handle on a smaller contact wheel you will be a lot faster. Cheers from NZ

  • @morrow.m
    @morrow.m6 жыл бұрын

    That was neat to see. Like the idea of using the stock to get your angle. I was trying to think how I would do it and hadn't thought of that yet. Thanks for sharing.

  • @andrewgoldstein1606
    @andrewgoldstein16066 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see how the knife comes out. Great video.

  • @lsubslimed
    @lsubslimed6 жыл бұрын

    Grind a hollow channel down the center of the tang. This does helps in a few ways. First, it means you have much less material to removal on the platen, and it also means you have much less surface area to try and get perfectly flat. You really only about 1/8" of flat around the perimeter. The hollowed channel also gives much more surface area for the epoxy to fill in so you don't have to drill so many holes, and of course reduces the weight in and of itself even before without tapering. I do this on all of my full tang knives, with or without a tapered tang for the reasons above. I do use a smaller wheel, actually one of my 3" (or so) platen idlers to grind the hollow channel when I'm not tapering the tang so I don't accidentally grind out to the spine. When doing a tapered tang, it is also faster to actually grind the hollow off the end of the tang down to just a bit before you hit the scribed lines on the butt of the tang, then just remove the rest on the platen. Another method for tapering the tang is to grind the tangs taper up just passed the ricasso, then just blend in the "ridge" where the tapered section meets the flat area during hand sanding and it will be basically indiscernible when finished. This also means you don't have to fiddle about trying to get the taper to stop exactly at the point the scales begin. Hope these suggestions are somewhat useful. 🙂

  • @thebmac
    @thebmac6 жыл бұрын

    Looks nice and will lighten up that handle even more. Whenever I think of a nice boat wood, I think of teak. Might look really nice once it got some patina along with the brass pins

  • @shelbyglazer3948
    @shelbyglazer39486 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite videos Jeremy! You've inspired me to try this ! Love your channel. Keep it up.

  • @liamdick2336
    @liamdick23366 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are so awesome! Really looking forward to the frame lock

  • @JackRoadkill
    @JackRoadkill6 жыл бұрын

    Mate, you can have some of our rain, if you like. We've got plenty here in Wales.

  • @crackers_are_great_with_am9572

    @crackers_are_great_with_am9572

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oooo and it makes it fun to make a fire!

  • @richardbohlingsr3490
    @richardbohlingsr34906 жыл бұрын

    I like the sheeps foot pattern for the boat knife. Stainless would be good for a marine environment. I would suggest G-10 in bright red or Floro orange, maybe use teak if you want wood. So it's easy to see and grab. Good body for the knife should work for ropes and other heavy cutting. I think the tapered tang will feel really good in hand. Going to be a great knife pattern.

  • @griffy85b
    @griffy85b6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jeremy. Do you think you could think about doing a video on shaping contoured handles in the future? I know it would help me out a lot. Thanks so much for taking the time to make us videos. : )

  • @tknoerle1451
    @tknoerle14516 жыл бұрын

    Heat index is OVER 90F.... I want COOL autumn weather & some RAIN too. Summer's heat needs to STOP here in Troy Missouri! Archery deer hunting season is opening TOMORROW (9/15/17).

  • @Stefanhallusa
    @Stefanhallusa6 жыл бұрын

    I'm really excited you did this, I'm working on my submission for "viewers knives" and the tapered tang idea is something that I've been very interested in...

  • @donaldlang95
    @donaldlang956 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jeremy. Though I'm having a headache and a back pain I just have to see your daily videos. Just love 'em, and I hope one day to be as good a knifemaker as you. Have a great weekend. One more thing... If you need rain, you can have ours Here in Denmark we had one of et wettest summer and a temperture of no more than 25-26 degree centius. So I just say lucky you.

  • @marks8498
    @marks84986 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video Jeremy

  • @marktyler1807
    @marktyler18076 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always keep it up!

  • @davidfpv6269
    @davidfpv62696 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, great job!

  • @Simplelittlelife

    @Simplelittlelife

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @kennyhazlie5440
    @kennyhazlie54406 жыл бұрын

    Want rain, come to Scotland.We've got plenty too spare, will swap for some sunshine.😊

  • @dankolar6066
    @dankolar60666 жыл бұрын

    Arson is so satisfying.

  • @thesuperzfamilyvlog6607
    @thesuperzfamilyvlog66076 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video, if you haven't already, about the different types of grinds and their benefits and weaknesses?

  • @benchamberlain6717
    @benchamberlain67176 жыл бұрын

    Loooks sooooooo goood.

  • @tww6641
    @tww66416 жыл бұрын

    FYI your Kershaw Clash is on sale on Blade HQ for $23. You have multiple backups of your leather man, time to get a back-up death proof clash

  • @mathurm100
    @mathurm1006 жыл бұрын

    just a reply to the weather part at the start... I live in tucson Arizona... it's 105F outside my garage on a daily basis. it's 110 - 120F+ inside. and that lasts from the end of may through the end of September :P I had to get an industrial fan with 2 foot long blades spitting out 8400 cubic ft per minute to even do knife-work for half the year. it blows sand paper all over the place. AND it keeps the grit off your workspace but collects it in the corner of the garage. but its managable. I envy you having to use your stove. :-D

  • @mathurm100

    @mathurm100

    6 жыл бұрын

    on a side note, i've noticed hotter metal files easier

  • @randoprior4130

    @randoprior4130

    6 жыл бұрын

    mathurm100 you shouldn't envy us albertains and our weather. Seriously my hands have been so cold grinding knives that by the end I am dripping blood on the floor from where I have caught myself on the grinder without realizing or feeling it. I got frostbite on my face inside a shop standing next to a quartz heater. When I pull a blade out of the forge for heat treat it is back to magnetic and almost black in about 4-6 seconds. I can go through a tank of propane and do 1/3 of the work I can do on that same tank in the summer. I'd MUCH rather be hot than cold while grinding, while forging tho it is super nice being out in the cold. I can be forging in a T-shirt in -35 Celsius.

  • @ShelleyRaskin
    @ShelleyRaskin6 жыл бұрын

    Tapered tangs is one of the things I want to try, but am also dreading! Just make sure you drill your holes before you taper!

  • @rob280
    @rob2806 жыл бұрын

    If you are going to be doing a bunch of these you might think about a jig you could setup in your vertical mill. Then you would just need to polish out the tool marks.

  • @cjpiper2420
    @cjpiper24206 жыл бұрын

    Nice.... would like to have one made😜

  • @donbeeler49
    @donbeeler496 жыл бұрын

    I second the Jacklore video on tapered tangs. Good recovery though.

  • @tonydavila2606
    @tonydavila26066 жыл бұрын

    Living in northern Illinois I could never imagine Canada being "dry" lol. It seems hotter in Canada than in Illinois right now.

  • @Silverity1
    @Silverity16 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jeremy! What do you think of trying to use exotic woods as scales? Ebony, Ironwood, etc.

  • @samrobins7231
    @samrobins72316 жыл бұрын

    Woohoo I get to add my 2 cents again, when I taper tangs I only mark the center on the very end of the tang leaving my two scribes the thickness I want the taper to end with, then I do a 2 inch fuller down the center of the tang as evenly as possible down to my scribe lines( doesn't need to be perfectly on center just an even depth.) up to just before where my scales end near the Ricasso. Then you just have the edges of the tang to contend with as you grind vertically on the platten just as you did plus the remaining hollow left just grabs epoxy. Hopefully that made sense. Scribing the entire spine is probably helpfully but not totally necessary as long as your On center on the end of the tang and the grinds terminate evenly near the ricasso. The point of the hollow is a visual indicator as to when you get to that center on the end of the spine as well as a way to have much less metal to move while flat on the platten. Hope this helps!!!! Keep it up Jeremy.

  • @timpinxteren
    @timpinxteren6 жыл бұрын

    Try two kinds of wood for the scales, with a 1/8" G10 spacer in between matching the liners.

  • @chrisbiolaw5136
    @chrisbiolaw51366 жыл бұрын

    So did you set the scribe to be half of the thickness of the blank itself? Very cool way to do a tapered tang. I've never seen anyone mark one up to grind so this was really informative

  • @Ericsutmuller
    @Ericsutmuller6 жыл бұрын

    hey Jeremy, once again sweet content. Now i was wondering on something totally different. Music, how is that on KZread, where do you get your background music from and how is the licensing on that? I'm sure you can't just use everything you like. Would love to hear about that.

  • @nankohefting6894
    @nankohefting68946 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, love your videos. One question: what's the brand of your belt grinder?

  • @wesley7910

    @wesley7910

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nanko Hefting KMG

  • @johnshoureas1629
    @johnshoureas16296 жыл бұрын

    Try draw filing the tang before you use the 220 sandpaper. Saves a lot of time.

  • @billmyers3039

    @billmyers3039

    6 жыл бұрын

    Finally did the tapered tang thing,,,, great job!!!! You will love the finale look and feel....

  • @tri-forceblades3123
    @tri-forceblades31236 жыл бұрын

    It makes it easier to grind a hollow first in your tang .

  • @JDurkin2811
    @JDurkin28116 жыл бұрын

    Could you try make a super slim knife for an edc.

  • @asksolas816
    @asksolas8166 жыл бұрын

    just wondering can you put a 123block (or whatever they are called) at an angle on your belt grinder to grind the tang

  • @bradleybarker9120
    @bradleybarker91206 жыл бұрын

    You'd be glad of no rain right now if you lived in Texas, Florida or Birmuda isle's. And this is coming from someone who never gives hate on KZread.(BTW: This is NOT Hate)

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos6 жыл бұрын

    The only reason I haven't tried a tapered tang yet is because I haven't figured out how to attach the scales. I mean, how do you drill the holes through the scales and have everything line up?

  • @tehemtoncode47
    @tehemtoncode476 жыл бұрын

    How do you put scales on a tapered tang? Won't the angle of the tang mess up the straight holes drilled on the scales? I'm sure there's a way, I'm just not seeing it right now. So if you could make a video when you're putting up scales on this one, it would be great. Also love your content and watching your vids! Cheers

  • @MTknives

    @MTknives

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are correct, I have a vise that holds the knife parallel with the drill press, then clamp on the scales and drill. I may have a video of it, if not I could make one.

  • @Lee_B_Futures
    @Lee_B_Futures6 жыл бұрын

    I notice that most of your grinds are hollow grinds. Just curious, but do you find freehand flat grinds harder to pull off than hollows? I'm having the hardest time keeping my lines straight on my flat grinds. Not to say it's easy grinding hollows, but for me it's for sure been easier than a flat grind. I keep reading and hearing the opposite from folks though. Thanks.

  • @andrewgreiner4681
    @andrewgreiner46816 жыл бұрын

    out of curiosity, is the shackle around your neck there for a purpose or just as a necklace? its cool either way haha

  • @jpinto9935
    @jpinto99356 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a traditional Scandinavian style bushcraft knife? Like a puukko?

  • @mikemikulak676

    @mikemikulak676

    6 жыл бұрын

    Iv'e been thinking about recording the next one that I do.

  • @jpinto9935

    @jpinto9935

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mike Mikulak sounds cool!

  • @sandervandijk7440
    @sandervandijk74406 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a chisel grind knife?

  • @xxmickeymoorexx

    @xxmickeymoorexx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sander van Dijk I can second that. I have been looking for one lately and they are hard to come by in a decent price range and quality.

  • @sethjones5078

    @sethjones5078

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sander van Dijk mora has one don't know what you think just an idea

  • @philipashman8014

    @philipashman8014

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jeremy try getting a strait edge when you have parkinson's I have to pick. My days when I grind

  • @lsubslimed

    @lsubslimed

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sander van Dijk - Doing a simple chisel grind can be much easier than doing a standard "V" grind, as you don't have to match up the bevel with the other side. Just grind the bevel on only one side and instead of stopping the grind at the center of the edge, take it all the way to the opposite side. You want the bevel to be on the same side as you are 'handed' or the dominate side hand of whoever you are making the knife for... e.g. on the left side on the blade if you are left handed, and on the right side on the blade if you are right handed. Giving the blade a stress relieving cycle and straightening any warping prior to quenching can help avoid warping during the quench. Just heat the blade sub-critically (it's still magnetic at this temp) to about 1250 F (this looks like a very dull red color in complete darkness) and let it air cool. This will help remove any potential stresses caused by grinding, which can be more exaggerated with the asymmetry of a chisel ground blade, although it can also be helpful for any type of knife.

  • @sandervandijk7440

    @sandervandijk7440

    6 жыл бұрын

    lsubslimed thanks for the info!i making my first knife with a chisel grind.

  • @carlosbroots
    @carlosbroots6 жыл бұрын

    Quick question: how do you erase pencil lines from textured kydex? I had trouble with that in the past...

  • @donbeeler49

    @donbeeler49

    6 жыл бұрын

    I just wipe them down with WD-40 and a paper towel. Good as new.

  • @stephenjohnson1221
    @stephenjohnson12216 жыл бұрын

    watch jack lore knives on how to grind a tapered tang.

  • @sandervandijk7440
    @sandervandijk74406 жыл бұрын

    How are the kittens?

  • @daWoody01
    @daWoody016 жыл бұрын

    What are the reasons for a tapered tang?

  • @andrewjones3020
    @andrewjones30206 жыл бұрын

    How can I email u??

  • @waveydavey2721
    @waveydavey27216 жыл бұрын

    Check out Jacklore knives, he has amazing vlogs on tapered tangs

  • @nickmiller3796
    @nickmiller37966 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure I see the benefit to doing the tapered handle. You now have to reverse taper the scales. I'm thinking the time cost is not worth the couple grams of weight savings. The handle feels no different when completed. So unless it is part of a spine art design, I wouldn't pay anymore for a knife just because it was tapered. JMHO

  • @MrAaronchefo
    @MrAaronchefo6 жыл бұрын

    Think u shud do Alec Steele a knife and while ur sending do me 1 as well lol hope ur well

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken197006 жыл бұрын

    Less talking, more working.