You just keep upping the bar Marcus 👏 A very, very good explanation and demonstration 👍 For those out there just watching the videos and thinking "you'll get it", if you do, well done! Go and get a lesson with any of the Zen Team, and, I absolutely guarantee your game will ascend to a level you thought you couldn't get to. I'm out to Turkey before you guys and have: Faldo X2, Lykia Links, Carya, PGA Sultan & Nobilis Robinson. My Zen Team (Sam Skeldon) instruction has made my season prosperous; so I look forward to a Golf Tour with 23 other mates 👍⛳

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul, your results are great to hear and your support is really appreciated!

Great stuff as always been looking for how to get started on this discovery of how the wrists can work thanks for all your help

I love motorcycling and Zen golf 🏍❤️⛳️

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

What a fantastic combination 😂

Good vid. Thanks for some different ways to thonk about face path.

Another forward thinking great video Marcus, always look forward to your input and completely different way of Teaching. No wonder ZenGolf Mechanics are bringing complete change to golf instruction at long last. Brilliant.

No wonder why I'm so bad at golf.... once I saw how dirty this iron 8 was, I couldn't focus on anything else 🤣🤣🤣 No seriously, you've been such a great help in my game. before I would focus on so many technical things... now I focus on the target and let the rest happen. I do work technically, but on the range when I find the time to go, but never on the golf course anymore. It will happen one day, I'll find a moment to book a lesson with you but working with a B&B and living in France is not easy to come and visit !!! Thanks for all the nuggets you are giving us, it's good to hear a different voice in all those "technical" coaching.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

The dirt adds ball speed 😂😉

This really helped my contact I don’t know why but I guess it’s golf teaching has made us like your not doing stuff the Right Way but it’s like you have gave me permission to explore different things and figure out what works I noticed by taking my grip in this fashion with a little close face I make really nice golf shots and most importantly shaft lean divots after ball and able to hit off hard pan lies thanks for your permission 😂

Love this explanation and how you and the other Zen instructors teach golf. Keep up the excellent work. Cheers

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

Excellent ❤

I’m new to the zen golf channel been watching for a couple of weeks and I’m very impressed I have built my own zen training aids and am trying to use them as you demonstrate, I’m a weak short hitter no matter how hard or easy I swing 8 iron goes 120y and 7 iron 130y, I’m desperate to find the golden sequence that will unlock some club head speed, thanks for the content Marcus

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

The overarching concept really is that of trial and error, self exploration - to which you are now currently 2 weeks into! Enjoy the process, it'll come 👍

Another gem! Thanks Marcus!

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

I'm so glad your showing how rotating the club can help with your shots. I've been experimenting with the exact same thing, I find the flat left wrist works best for me. So far I can hit whopping hooks or scary slices. Thanks for sharing. And by the way, I use to road race motor bikes some years ago.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome, well done 👏

good content marcus. Learning new technique this mornng. thank you from Kuala Lumpur.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Thank you from Bawtry Golf Club!

Discovered this concept this year after 10 years of slicing. Completely eliminated my slice and gained yards with a penetrating ball flight. The common terminology used by golf pros is “releasing the club”. I was always confused by this. The motorcycle throttle analogy is an easier one to picture and apply for me. Thanks for sharing.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome Dan great to hear 👍

Great stuff, Marcus.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Cheers, Kipling!

Great, Marcus! I am an 28 hcp and I struggle of course with my inconsistence. But your videos have been greatly helpful and I feel I'm on the right way, getting a more natural swing and moving my body better. But this video makes me a bit confused. I try to implement the concept motorcycle throttle during my downswing, and it works. I get a better strike and more distance. In this video you preset the closing of the face and keep it during the whole swing. Does it mean you do not close the face with your wrists during downswing?

I've found that I use a netrual grip/weak and a netrual/cupped wrist but I draw the ball kinda pull it slightly short left on irons and driver hooks short I can fade the ball on demand if I want but like you said find what works Im self taught but I enjoy every moment of practice you learn so much cheer's.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome, keep at it 👍

Thank you!

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Hi Marcus. The movement of the wrist at P4 only affects the rotation of the face because the wrist is radially deviated. It does not change the face orientation at P7 when the wrist is ulnar deviated. Cheers

Tried this drill before a Pennant match, myself and partner won the 4 ball plus our matches probably the best drill (maybe) you've shown 👍

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome, well done!

Marcus, this was what I have struggled with for years - can not find a consistent grip as the fix - my missed was hooked too much. The more I aimed right, the more I flipped my hand - the more it hooked, then I started to swing right and up follow-through swings (instead of swinging around by body or letting the hands rotate for a nature release) - that helps to draw ball (vs hook), but it was not consistent and no power. My question was to bow the wrist vs pre-grip-closed-clubface (flat wrist)? - I have tried them both and must do them wrong. When you said keeping the same grip and clubface relationship - you meant keeping the same left-hand rotation (with right hand on) and letting it bow at the top, right? Do we ever pre-grip-closed-clubface at the address? (from the other video, in order to aim right - we rotate right a bit with our feet, body and shoulder around the ball for a draw shot. And the clubface pointed to the target line - in this case, at the address, the clubface did look like pre-grip-closed-clubface) - did you see that I was confused?

Does this apply to the driver as well? Thank you.

"Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance"

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Great book 👍

Hi Markus et all. Been watching your channel för some months now. Really great. 🙂 It is so intuitive and "simple" when you get to know the concept. Just one thing... I must get rid of my slice with the driver... How shall I understand your teaching in this video... shall I preset my club blade a bit closed before I start my back swing and keep it so through the swing or shall I close it in the down/through swing. 👍

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

No easy answer without seeing your swing! So to generalise - try both and see what success you have or what as a result happens to the ball flight. Say for example you experience more face rotation and your shots are instead starting left and drawing further left then you know your swing direction is still left (same as with your slice) it'll at least offer you more information on your own swing

@singelgolfare853

Жыл бұрын

@@GRFGolf Thanks for the reply. I will work towards an ability to set the club blade in the correct open or closed position during the actual downswing. It is more engineering i think - and in line with your intuitive golf. But I'll probably have to start practicing setting the blade - and aiming - in the actual setup. And develop from there. Dreaming of being able to take the car and make a golf holiday with a swing course at your place. Fingers crossed. 😀 Regards Torsten Nurbo /Malmö Sweden

So should the club face always be square at address and the rotation of the grip is what determines alignment ?

Will give this a go I suffer a slice. I also suffer from coming over the top and swinging left. Lose so much distance cutting across the ball. Lucky if I get 170 out my 5i.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Let us know how you get on 👍

The guys who were cupped at the top, delofted and bowed into impact. Hogan cupped then bowed.... the cupping actually helped him accomplish the bowing....it gave him the urge to bow and deloft.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Nice one 👍no one right way - everyone's different.

Just fixed a flat tire on my Harley so I can ride to the golf course tomorrow. I will get some extra practice on the way to the course 😂

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Exactly that 😂 thinking ahead

This video may have been revolutionary for me. What should my new wrist relationship feel like through impact? just maintain? or release?

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Release 👍

Marcus mate that only works for lefties , the throttles always on the right mate .. That said , I’m playing around with trigger finger placement atm to close face through impact and having a very nice honeymoon 👍 broom broom

@PauloG100

Жыл бұрын

Got to admit I always smile when people talk about 'the motorcycle move' and then demonstrate the left wrist closing or throttling back. I have never ridden a bike where the throttle is on the left but never mind, I get the concept.

Brilliant Vid Marcus and a must for ALL the slicers & hookers out there in Golf World! I have to confess that until I had my lesson with the Zen Master I hadn't got a scooby about changing the clubface angle with my wrist rotation. I have been experimenting with this for several months now and seem to get the best results if I preset my wrist position (50% bowed) before I set up to take the shot as it then free's me up to take the shot without any internal brain clutter. Do you think that this is ok??

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

It's absolutely ok if that's what you have found to work for you, Bandit 👍

@banditbaker1675

Жыл бұрын

@@GRFGolf cheers, yes it keeps it all nice and simple for me, I'm good at simple👍👍

i like it. a different approach indeed. ba dum chssssss

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

What type of grip pressure are you using? I tend to strangle it to hold the face which creates a lot of tension and strain. Do you have a video on grip pressure?

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Mentioned lots of times on the channel 👍

@54fighting5

Жыл бұрын

I have heard Marcus say many times... Firm grip but NO tension in the wrists. Wrists need to move. It's one of the hardest things, of my bad habits, for me to overcome.

Is the open or closing of the club face done by wrist position or is the actual handle rotated accordingly and then gripped ?

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Use the wrists 👍

Marcus do you rotate wrist at setup then swing or rotate wrist during swing. This is what is confusing me. If I do it at setup obviously the club face sits all wrong. Or are you meant to practise like your video and it will happen naturally eventually thanks

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Let it happen naturally through awareness 'in swing' 👍

@stephenoneill6074

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

We need online lessons

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Coming soon 🙏

Does anyone know what he’s talking about. Sounds like he’s talking in riddles

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, you're meant to work it out 😉

@PauloG100

Жыл бұрын

I don't know about talking in riddles but all I can say is that I have been practicing this and the results are amazing. Never hit so many fairways with a long, controlled draw by doing exactly what he describes in the video. The term 'game changer' can be very overused, but in this case, I think it is appropriate.

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

@@PauloG100 that's awesome, Paulo, well done mate

@careerconversations9275

Жыл бұрын

Rowdy - if it makes you feel better, I agree and understand why is sounds like riddles. I'm 75 have a 7 handicap and have watched 1,000+ of videos - so his explanations make sense to me. His videos really help me because I understand all of the jargon. - I think its best if you find an instructor and get face to face lessons - I enjoy the challenge, hope you enjoy the game.

Have instructors never heard of taking an extra club or two and choking down an inch? Is that not a much simpler way of accomplishing what they want us to create by complex swing dynamics?

It’s been a long time since I rode a motorbike. Memory is fading fast but surely your not revving the bike rather your slowing the bike down

@GRFGolf

Жыл бұрын

With the open and closed face it's both ways to explore! 👊

You know what you’re talking about but difficult to explain it in simple terms. Too advanced technical explanation