Also. If I had to summarize this tutorial into one word it would be “patience”. Something I continually struggle with and get punished for.

@muhammadrafi4723

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucabollini163 or when you are spotted suddenly all of opponent ships target you even though your ship are not the most vulnerable. I really hates this especcially since BB tend to group together

@mrbushi1062

Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadrafi4723 i feel like I just get shot cause im a Jap CA and everyone just thinks Squishy

Just started playing. I was beyond trash, didnt know how to aim, didnt know how position myself and get blown up within 3 mins of the match. This guide make my life 10 times better. Thank you.

2 years later, and this information is still helping me and I'm still learning.

New player here, thanks for the “how to” videos.

So after watching this I jump in my Des Moines and end up on the Ocean map ...

@TheChiog

4 жыл бұрын

btw, is ocean a X only map? because i have played up to Tier IX so far and never were on ocean

@LAFN-si1oz

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheChiog No. Once I was playing Hipper and got into it. I think it's just super super rare. Might be only for the higher tiers (above 8 or so?)

@chadofchads4390

3 жыл бұрын

there all ocean maps

@Sinnbad21

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadofchads4390 you’re an absolute genius!

IJN cruisers are super reliant on their stealth, so ur advantage goes out the window the moment the cv starts focusing u down.

@Spectacular_Insanity

4 жыл бұрын

You say that like ANY ship in the game is going to survive getting focused by a CV. DDs still have it worse. At least most higher tier CAs and CLs have good AA and often a heal. DDs just get nuked half the time.

@Xefender7

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spectacular_Insanity good AA doesnt exist in against high tier cv

@Spectacular_Insanity

4 жыл бұрын

@@Xefender7 Cruisers are still better than DDs. There's a reason DDs don't ever bother even using their AA.

@NRocky94

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spectacular_Insanity European DDs are an exception.

@STRIDER_503

4 жыл бұрын

Holland: *Pops Defensive AA ability*

Really come to rely on this series. Advice is clear, simple and makes sense. Thank you iChase. This has really made the difference in my gameplay.

Somebody literally called me an idiot because I was positioning correctly :(

@BobReed1

3 жыл бұрын

@Deivias So true. I was in one battle where a DD guy called a cruiser guy a "cheater who relies on hacks" because the cruiser used surveillance radar to find the DD in smoke.

@breadbug6101

2 жыл бұрын

Had this happen to me a little while back recently; I had someone call me useless for hiding behind an island (using New Orleans) and waiting for enemies to be spotted before I start firing Then I move out from the island I was hiding behind to hop to the next one, get intercepted by torpedoes mid-travel and get called useless again for not killing the DD even though no one’s spotting it Still new and learning so idk what I’ve done wrong but I’m sure there was something wrong with all of that

Solid tutorial. I've been playing for years and even though most of this was for my entertainment, I still found a few tidbits to help improve my game.

Best damn series on KZread. Thanks for your educational attitude...makes my game play better for sure!

Thanks for all you do. Love this series. Keep it up.

Thanks for all the great tips and info.. Love your videos. Stay safe and keep those great vids going...

Thank you, iChase! These are very useful.

Thanks for all the videos about WOW. It's helped me out tremendously!

Fantastic series of videos Chase...thanks!

best tutorial series. Beginner-ish, still learning. This is so super helpful.

I found the video super helpful, thankyou!

Thank you. I've had some issues with the Mogami, but this will be a big plus. GL and GG moving forwards.

Thank you. Your videos are very informative.

Staying behind BBs in open water.. nice theory, when your BBs are all camping at 15-18Km and you only got 15.6Km range in your CA

@blackopscw7913

3 жыл бұрын

I play blitz alot but sometimes i play on my laptop and i have to say... never play blitz as a DD or CA because BB's camp and never move.

excellent educational video. Clearly presented the important ideas. Kudos

I’d always struggled to get the best out of the IJN cruisers. I could get wins and grind the line, but it wasn’t always fun and I wasn’t as effective as I knew the ships should be. Since watching this guide (and the rest of the series) it’s become a favourite line and am now reprinting it and loving it. Thanks.

This helped me for playing usn cruisers

I’d like to add that in IJN open water role, you can help your team by being that flanker who distract your enemies hence less damage towards your team but you also need to be careful not to overextended and beware of the enemy flanker too. Good guide iChase.

iChase, I have to say, I was absolutely horrible with Cruisers and I found out how bad I was at aiming. After watching these videos I have gotten much better at Cruisers, and positioning. I thank you for making absolutely awesome guides.

Thanks very much for this guide iChase. Was really looking forward to this one. As a somewhat meh IJN cruiser main, I now realise a big problem of mine was being too anxious to shoot all the time, partly to compensate for the slow reload and try to get more damage. From your demonstration, I can see that the basic strategy of taking it slow and sneaky will ultimately stack up decent damage.

The stealth aspect is helpful thanks, might also help me understand DD gunboats better.

Good refresher for 2022.

excellent lesson, thanks iChase. Be safe.

nice one komrad!

Very usefull… thank you!

Very usefull. Thanks!

Nice advice ty!

Thanks! Hope this improves the play quality. This quarantine is starting to feel like the longest weekend ever.

New player, cheers this video has completely fixed my cruiser game

I tend to be a little more pro-active with respect to torpedoes in IJN cruisers...you never know when when somebody might be coming around that island, and if ya got them, might as well use them. You don't necessarily get a lot of torp hits, but the ones you do get are a nice surprise for your enemies.

Good video and we'll needed! If you have the Atago everything mentioned is excellent, if you're playing tech tree ship like the IJN T8 Mogami though I would caution you about playing as a flank ship, your lack of armor can get you deleted so quickly, maybe it's an exception to the line but I think it' might better to play it more like a USN cruiser until late in game. IBUKI T9 seems to be ok in open water at near range for that "annoying" pest style!

Thank man! woow I really appreciate the videos. It helped me sooooooo much you have no idea. Didn't know how to play the cleveland at all despite watching alot of videos. You brought up something that just opened my eyes ( just had my best game almost 100k damage) and that is ROLE. What is your role and how can you accomplish that role. Mix that with your video about map position and my play improved greatly. Thx again!

I'll second your comparison to Brit light cruisers. With low concealment and a smoke to "get out of jail free" you can kite like a mad man. Drop the smoke but keep going and move at an angle to it then hit them in the side when they point their bow at the smoke. Great way to get broadside shots on cruisers.

Very useful advice, as we have come to expect (and, I hope, don't take for granted). I like the mention of destroyer support, which has become more important as radar and over-powered carriers proliferate. Destroyers cannot be expected to capture the CAP points all on their own. The U.S. cruisers are better at this with radar, decent armor, and good turret arrangement and gun handling - the Japanese, not as much but somebody has to do it to win games. (The number of games where the cruisers sit back with the battleships lobbing at range and clamoring at the destroyers to CAP. . . ) Speaking of gun handling, the style you recommend does minimize the Japanese cruiser weaknesses. Notice on your "push" into the smoked-up Edinburgh you had a proper defensive bow angle until you got close. And, only two turrets on target during the run in. At that point you were essentially an Aoba, although under the circumstances it did not matter. Contrast that to your early-to-mid-game recommended style where you can get set up, undetected, and get all guns bearing. The point about Japanese AP is also well taken. It can be hard to remember that when you are about close enough to jam the barrels into another cruiser's side it does actually work.

hi i'm kinda new here thanks for the videos (even though i don't play WOWS anymore LOL) but hey it's good to know where i went wrong when i played back then (i was only a co-op nub)

Hi chase! Really aprreciating all these amzing guides you are putting out. I was wondering, in this video and many others! I see players aiming at targets behind islands. How do you acquire a lock on those? Whenever I target them like that, I just end up shooting the isand. Is there something I am missing?

Thanks iChase. I stopped grinding American cruisers because I couldn't get the hang of them. I don't like to play the game sniping behind islands which I guess is why I became a BB main. And no I do not snipe like that with BBs either. I am usually in the open full speed for 90 % of the game. I did get to T10 with Japanese cruisers using concealment as you showed. I thought it funny watching you play Atago that way, firing, kiting, maneuvering, concealment made me realise that is, to a large degree, how I try play the BB Giulio Cesare due to its soft sides

Crazy. I watch this and I try to maneuver my mouse to look around -- as if it were in the game.

Got so excited after watching that video. I thought I'd do good. 2 minutes in and I'm well positioned behind an island standing still. And then the planes started focusing on me. Saw me I'm not moving ... By the time my cruiser got in full speed, it was bellow half the HP. No wonder the dude explaining chose a replay of game without CVs in it...

Amazing tips dude, thanks to you I'm not longer a clueless potato, keep up ur hard work. P.S: I'm still wondering why we didn't get an IJN CLs line yet, when they actually, u know, *EXISTED*

i play as a brit heavy cruisers tier6 my commander in at level 10 ,, i am staying in this cruiser an going to get better ,, i use islands an i let the battleships to go ahead of me ,, i loos alot ,, but my comp it old an lagging to ,, i watch your vids an my game play has picked up ,, still doing dum things ,, but asking lots of questions ,, ty for all the vids an keep it up ,, i cant wait for more ,,

"Start with IJN & USN Cruiser line" Got Atlanta on free container 1st week playing wows - *Proceed Using It*

I have really enjoyed your series of videos. Could you do a video on the signals we should run because no one has done a video on that that I can find? I wish I understood and be able to retain the game mechanics as you do. Something I wish you would do is put your recommended builds on the screen, modules, captain skills, signals, how to use the mini map properly, etc.

gives me FPS tac shooter vibes, hold angles, don't expose yourself and punish enemies errors

Thanks for the video! one question though, i dont see the consealment advantage for the IJN cruisers over USA, the in-game tooltips pretty much have them equal with some small differences depending on ship..Is there something here i dont understand? (new player).

So heavy US cruisers allright, but i kinda was hopin for an explanation for the US light cruisers and were they are benefiting compared to the heavy cruisers and espicially how to properly play the atlanta since 11.5 km range feels like nothing at all but concealment of 9.5 makes its quite tough to kite w/o gettin spottet by dd´s. Anyways youre guide series is so amazing, im playin for like 2 weeks now and watched a LOT of guides but youres are by FAR the most helpfull and understandable thanks for that and please keep it up

I appreciate your videos! I see why I was not as successful in my use of US and IJN cruisers as I could have been. Tutorial knowledge does really help! By the way, are you a vet?

thanks

After watching this, I FINALLY figured out how to play Omaha.

Great Video! Be interesting to see and hear how the Soviets play? I'm coming from the WoW:Legends on the console, and your vids have been very informative.

@CrazyPalidin57

4 жыл бұрын

Sorta similar to the Japanese ships. Just NEVER show your broadside. But I found it works to hit the flanks, once you become noticed, kite away swinging and firing until youre out of your detection range . Get back into range and repeat. If the opportunity presents itself, use islands to ambush with torps or fire from while undetected if you cant find a light flank to annoy.

This video is very much needed for me I m stuck on buffalo for last 3 month lol

@Bigweave74

4 жыл бұрын

sierra 117 MasterChief Almost there brother. Des Moines is more than worth the grind. She’s an absolute terror when played properly.

@SHOPTUBE867

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bigweave74 I have Salem so I know but can't play them properly I can do shit ton dmg using zao or Henri but not this ships lol

@Bigweave74

4 жыл бұрын

It’s easy to control your engagements with Zao. She’s punishing enough to scare most players into leaving her alone once she goes undetected. Starting triple fires on BBs in 2 salvos tends to be a great deterrent.

One thing that I struggle with, particularly at higher tiers, is this: I'll see an island. I'll look at all the approaches, see that vision is blocked to all sensible paths, open up and bam - detected. Who by? Dunno. That shot I fired? I hit trees. Incoming salvo - even from the ship I'm shooting at clears the trees nicely and, yeah, citadel. Sure, it's a skill problem on my part at the end of the day, but I sure wish there was some way I could learn what my mistake was. Here he takes lots of shots with basically only cover to the few ships that are spotted and, as it happens, an Atago isn't lurking around somewhere to see the shot.

Allmost 1st to comment :) Ty for the chanel, 5 days ago i started playing and i spent quite some time to find a good youtube chanel to learn stuff! Splendid job! And just my opinion the intro music is weierd/not my style :)

@MasterSasori09

4 жыл бұрын

you started 5 days ago and you already took the first step to become an above average player

I see you play atago san aka the love cave

I just love the buffalo

I LOVE that the IFHE Nerf has largely brought IJN Cruisers back to the PINNACLE of Fire Starting, and they have alwyas been the kings of direct HE damage - now that Smolensk has to choose between fires or MEDIOCRE HE pen with IFHE (what, 27mm of pen?) In either case Zao will do FAR more direct damage, and nearly as many fires!

I always struggled with cruisers. They are fast and decently fun to sail, but they aren’t small or agile enough that if you follow a DD for a torpedo run, you will probably not make it out alive running away. If you follow a BB, you might be a lot safer but without the range or damage to justify hitting the same long range targets.

gonna be that guy and say that island hopping in the pacific is actually about skipping low-priority islands and hopping from high-priority island to high-priority island, and just cut off the other islands that's not very useful to capture. but i get what u mean.

Newbe here. How do you get the range circles set in the minimap?

can you do another video with Japanese light CAs please

My issue with the long range fire starter type IJN cruiser gameplay is that it does not allow me to exert pressure on a cap or flank. If my DD or BBs rush in and get killed I don't have the ability to go in and contest. The long slow kite away from a flank is great for damage numbers but I find it does not win games unless the opposite flank actually wins and turns towards the middle. Basically my issue is that the playstyle is, to a greater extent than the USN cruiser line, dependent on the skill of random teams. I am sure I am just playing IJN cruisers wrong but I feel like USN cruisers let me effect win rate more consistently.

Island hugging is fine if there are useful islands which is not always the case.

whats the mod for detection timer ?

Interesting. I would have split the cruisers up slightly differently, though to the same effect. Open-water cruisers (ie French, IJN) vs Island-huggers (USN).

Just wanted to give a shout out to Wargaming for the upcoming armor buff to the Pensacola, New Orleans and Yorck. And thy have announced matchmaking changes that may help. The big ramp-up of cruiser armor between Tier VII and VIII has always been a problem, only made worse by further proliferation of DakkaBoats, Stalinium armor and paper ships in general. I have been playing the upgraded Yorck on the Public Test Server and it seems to be a vast improvement. (I sold my Pensacola and New Orleans along time ago. May buy them back since I spend most of my time around Tier VI to VIII. Along with many others - about 1/3 of the average team in these games show levels from Tier X ranked battles, so the teams aren't as inexperienced as they used to be.)

15:31 70% of the times when I go solo with a Japanese cruiser, I got bombed the crap out by enemy CV, how do I counter that? Do I return to my teammates? Thank you who responds!

Bruh three minutes into battle and that Kitakaze just gets sunk

back when wow was fun and made sense.

The problem with your Japanese segment of the video mainly comes down to the rare event where two teams of non-noobs get together and play somewhat smart. There were no early DD yolo runs, no light cruisers broadside in open water shooting at 4 enemy ships, no lone wolf BBs running at entrenched positions. You know, every day games :P

@johnbeckwith1361

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that. I wonder how many battles in that ship did he play before he had got one.

Hi can you tell me a program to record mi batels pls . Sry mi nike name is swan ty .

How do you get that countdown timer on the “detected” warning on the HUD?

@thomasparal2724

4 жыл бұрын

It's a mod. (Available in the ModStation) He went over it and mods in Episode 2 of this series.

What’s a good IJN captain build?

I've been looking forward to this episode. I've really struggled with T9-10 IJN cruisers. Always drawing too much attention to myself & eating massive damage instead of hanging back & dropping off detection.

@lubossoltes321

4 жыл бұрын

they are not DDs, don't try to use torps at all costs ... that will get you killed quickly ...

@Mithguar

4 жыл бұрын

What get people killed in IJN cruisers is showing broadside (usually trying to drop torps). Keep your torps for close range engagements. You can take BBs with them. And NEVER show broadside. I suggest learning enemy reload rates and only swing for extra gun angles between enemy salvos. Not easy but it pays off.

@jordanreeseyre

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mithguar frustratingly, angling isn't much defence when being focused by Kremlins, Republiqes, Thunderers etc. I've found some success in learning to hang back early on & holding my fire when I'm the obvious target. Though this does make pulling my weight a challenge.

@Mithguar

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordanreeseyre Angling works great if you do it right. Sure if you are in the open in crossfire, it won't do you much. you still need to position well on the map. But if we talk Zao vs BBs, only Kremlin and Yamato can do serious dmg if you angle right.

@jordanreeseyre

4 жыл бұрын

The Republique, Georgia, Ohio, Thunderer, Kremlin, Musashi & Yamato can all overmatch the Zao's 30mm of belt & deck armour, nevermind the 25mm bow/stern plating. Huge men damage, and usually citadel damage quickly follows.

love your shows, but I have a question/observation. As a relatively new and inexperienced tier 4/5 player, would it not be more beneficial to show how to get better at the tier 2 or 3 level? Ships at those tiers don't have the capabilities of a tier 9 or 10 ship. Learning positioning and tactics at those levels with those ships would IMO help the new players develop better control and tactics. Then positioning would be more instinctive.

All this really has helped for me in no CV games. I have improved quite a bit. But then yesterday i had 6 games in a row with 2 CV's. All 6 went in same pattern: I find a good cover and start shooting there and here, then CV spots me constantly, it even does not attack me - just spot. Then all bbs from range 17 - 21 km starts focusing me, if i try hide behind an island CV immediately torps forcing me to back off from island and then bbs shoot me. And it takes 2 well aimed shoots to get me from full HP to 0. Any strategy against this ? Also I still don't understand what is strength of cc. I mean, why i should play cc instead of bb or dd ? I dont feel any advantage on concealment, firepover or durability. I mean what can for example York do better than Gneissenau ?

how do you get all the information on the screen like you have, on the top right side?

@alzuu1

4 жыл бұрын

I believe it's the alternate battle interface - you can find it in settings.

Hey iChaseGaming! When your series is done, have you thought about doing replay analyses? I think your insight would be fun and constructive for such a thing

@TheMoistLord

3 жыл бұрын

Shrek

Fresh noob here, first week playing the game. Gone through SO many tutorial vids and youre are definitely my favourite. Was hoping to get some advice on resource management as a brand new player? What should/shouldnt I spend my credits/XP on? How should I efficiently utilise these resources in the tech tree or on modules? Do I just choose a nation and plough my way through their tech tree?

@archwaldo

4 жыл бұрын

Focus on one line for your first grind, but don't sell off your ships immediately after unlocking the next tier but instead keep at least one low tier ship (tier 4), one mid tier ship (between tiers 5-7) and a Tier 8. Why? Tier 4 - very high return in profit per game, and it's a safe environment for you to practice and solidify the basics. Mid tiers - still has good profit per game, and helps you learn how to deal with tougher opponents (eg tier 6 can face up to tier 8, while tier 7 faces up to tier 9). Tier 8 - can earn profit if you play well enough and this is the most crucial tier because of its battle MM. It teaches you how to lead a team as a top tier (T6-T8 MM), and it's the first time you will see tier 10s in action. Observe well and take note of their positioning, you can use them to your advantage. You keep on cycling between your ship's across different tiers so your mind and body can remember the feeling and develop your reflexes as well as your game sense and situational awareness. Use ship exp to unlock the next tier, and Use free exp that you earn by grinding each ship to unlock their modules. Spare yourself from playing stock ships and unlock all their top modules first. It takes longer, but it gives you a reason to cycle through the other ships as stated earlier. Also make sure to have extra millions to purchase upgrades, and another few million as leftover cash in the bank. But don't be stingy on ship performance. Type 5 camo costs 22.5k credits per game but it pays for itself with its benefits. Premium consumables, especially prem dmg control, smoke, speed boost, DFAA and repair are vital for keeping your ship afloat. For BBs premium spotter plane is also recommended. If you become good enough you will always have profit no matter the tier. Hope this helps.

@teehugs6460

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

well atleast now i understand where im going wrong with most of my cruiser games im usually the one leadig the charge lol

thanks, after getting killed most of the time. I've learned the real way.

did you use mod to reduce water splash?

Can you make a tutorial video for what to do in these cruisers when you are on a map with very few islands?

@muhammadrafi4723

3 жыл бұрын

Try stick with BB or DD, you can either: be the bait while your teammates overwhelm the opponents, or spam the crap out of the enemies with shells. Be remember though, don't overextend yourself, if you are overwhelmed haul your ass out of there quickly.

short answer learn the ship your playing , learn to read the map and know that going on , Pray your team does not suck

I consider myself a decent Zao player - my favorite ship. I don't remember how bad Atago was but if it's play-style is anything near Zao's you show a game where you were way cautious! Why you left that first lane? "too much heat" ? :) you left full hp! I may play to aggressive but it pays of most of the time. And you have to be aggressive to get in line with the other cruisers in terms of dpm

Will you be doing CV?

What build are you using on the buffalo? I just got her yesterday as my second t9 and don't really know what to do.

@stallfighter

4 жыл бұрын

@Nicholas Jensen also 18.1 km helps enemy team spot you behind your island from flanks... Which is greatly reduce number of good positions

great vid but still stucked with the peculiar case of RN CAs with abyssmal range, long reload and almost zero utility :(. Waiting for your guide on the Royal Navy Cruisers.

@Bigweave74

4 жыл бұрын

ReignTheTempest you have smoke and very good torpedos with better than average firing arcs. You’re basically a DD with a citadel.

@cccooooooolllllllll7344

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bigweave74 he is talking about heavy cruiser, they don't have smoke.

@noahjones7986

4 жыл бұрын

Took me a while to get the hang of British CAs as well, but you need to take advantage of your very low detection range and your super heal. I like to push in aggressively at the start and turn around so that my detection in just inside where the opponent's cap circle starts in domination or in standard battles use where your DDS are to estimate how far up the enemy DDS have pushed up and turn around before you get spotted. Preferably do this near cover so you have a way out. Wait and see what is detected and kite slowly away if there is no ship that overmatches you, if there is stay dark until you can ether fore from cover or until you can put enough distance between you can the ship with the big guns to fire openly. Any HE spam is not an issue as you can heal most of that back.

Unless your teams decides to bunch up in a corner and do nothing and there are hardly any islands nearby

we need this serie faster :((

Hey chase. Great vid. I was wondering, could I ever div with u somtimes?

@viniciusdesouzamaia

4 жыл бұрын

Join his twitch stream. He is pretty chill and plays with his viewers I think

Question is, what if both teams start camping islands and no one peeks out or even bothers to cap. Had plenty of those games until one team just gives up and charge in and gets farmed in return.

@lordofchaos5378

4 жыл бұрын

There is your answer wait till the other team loses patience

The tricks work as long as you doesn't drawn with egoistical jerks who only cares 1 vs 1 battle or charging like a madman then got turned into swiss cheese by the opponents. The egoistical jerks really got into my nerves when you are retreating to use DCP or repair party and didn't provides covering fire. Or when you are drawn with nice guys, but once you spotted you got obliterated even though there is more vulnerable teammates

Hey ichase i know you enjoy your free time at the moment. But at least for EU i think its time For an "How to contest a cap in a DD " Video. Its so frustrating to see DDs die like in no time because they did not know how to cap

Your videos are absolutely amazing but unfortunately my biggest problem in this game is having just straight trash teamates that all die within the first few minutes of the game then I'm left alone to get ganged up by the enemy.