When you, a BB captain, embrace the inner Orkiness and ask the Navy for *Moar* *DAKKA*

This ship could've been so much more. The actual design for this also featured a redesigned superstructure (similar to Oregon City and Fargo class cruisers) with stronger AA and 36 127mm dual purpose secondaries. (18 twin turrets, 8 on each side and one fore and aft of the superstructure.)

@jaysonnunley6602

Жыл бұрын

which is why this is just more weegee bullshit fake design pasta

@never_forget9431

Жыл бұрын

Possible could be for a tech tree line.

@TheDgamesD

Жыл бұрын

Thats the USS-Kentucky BB-66 Scheme "H"

@Aelxi

Жыл бұрын

You're giving them ideas..... :0

@e_da_g2161

Жыл бұрын

They still could add Kentucky as maybe a T10 special ship with a ludicrous amount of Massachusetts secondaries, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon. WG isn’t prone to listening to complaints about historical inaccuracies.

Waiting for this ship since announced. Gonna make those BB main gun hit missions so much easier. I'm glad she's not for steel or dublon only, i can get her free, since i dont want to spend on this game anymore.

I half expect the next big thing is Super-Island-Ships... Nickname SIS, they are huge mobile islands with thousands of guns, all of which has a few seconds of reload time, and an No-cooldown radar.

@joshuaraewa-ay9684

Жыл бұрын

Take one look at Kaneda's battleship and the description of the SIS would fit in. Save for the latter two. Though I doubt the devs would stop at that point, considering the state it's in right now. Imma be throwing a fit if Superships from Warship gunners are added here.

So: We’ve had battleships that want to be destroyers (Gneisenau, Tirpitz, Schlieffen) We’ve had battleships that want to be a carrier (Ise, Kearsarge) Now we have a battleship that wants to be a cruiser. How long before we get a battleship that wants to be a fricking submarine? 😂

@florianbielawa2919

Жыл бұрын

we had that already, all the US battleships from Pearl Harbor

@baronofrhodes1185

Жыл бұрын

If you ask CV players, all BBs are submarines...

@thewatcher4585

Жыл бұрын

Careful. There was a real Japanese submarine that wanted to be an aircraft carrier.

@Dragons_Armory

Жыл бұрын

@@thewatcher4585 It's pretty much guarenteed the Japanese carrier subs will be eventually featured as a premium

@flatoad6950

Жыл бұрын

@@florianbielawa2919 💀

"You know what, fk this, i'm going cruiser" - Illinois

you can expect a new line soon with the same idea, BB hull with cruiser guns

@madduckuk

Жыл бұрын

Just before the Halford style hybrid destroyer line...

@jaywerner8415

Жыл бұрын

They better not! That would just be taking the PISS. Still this ship IS a Real Design that was planned, a few cosmetic differences aside.

@dominges

Жыл бұрын

Imagine the Sov Tree... A whole line of Stalingrads. Way to power creep Kremlin, Petro, Stalin and Slava.

@nikoskapa1519

Жыл бұрын

and a supership on top of those with a reload booster or something

@EternalGaming786

Жыл бұрын

​@@nikoskapa1519 calm down Satan. :'3

PQ gets a new ship: "Maybe building for AA will work this time!" I kid. Thanks for covering the Illinois, definitely an interesting ship!

Awesome ship OMG can't wait to play this thing! Great video btw. You do a great job on your videos thanks for showing.

To note, the current USS Illinois is a Virginia-Class sub.

@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43

Жыл бұрын

SSN's took over BBs in terms of being named after states, quite rightfully in my opinion. If you think about it, SSN with big guns (Strategic nukes) and heavy armor (sea water) are actually the most fitting successors to the BBs anyway. They are not the lackluster phish that their predecessors were, they are actually expensive forces to be reckoned with. But they are still not honored enough to fight any armed target that could fight back, old habit dies hard it seems.

Thanks for the intro to the Illinois - very interesting 👍

this will be a must have for those missions that require you to get X number of MB hits in a BB. this will get it done faster than anything else in the game right now.

So weird to not hear a big boom every time the gun fires.

Based on the title I thought you were roasting a normal bb for having bad pen LOL

thanks, I know what my next ship will be 🤘

First saw this while using Albemarle the other day. Got it mixed up with another US bb, safe to say I had a surprised pikachu face when he roughly matched my reload.

I like this ship I'll probably get it too. Got only Ohio and Siegfried from RB, was thinking about either Paolo Emilio or Vampire II, but DDs are usually my 3rd choise. As I had my shy personal record with Iowa for some time and loved that ship and playing Des Moines in CBs mostly, this is must for me.

@rowinglove4ever

Жыл бұрын

As a dd main for the past two years i suggest you to get vampire II! I play mostly Kleber , Marceau, Daring , Smaland, Ragnar, Khaba, F Sherman, Kitakaze but mostly i love the Groningen! i belive the combo smoke+ hydro is the best for strong dds! vampire ii is a better Groningen she get amazing dpm a little less than smaland but she get the best fire starter chance of all dds on game!

Can I get a Ohio with the Worcester guns? I love WG physics btw.

It's the dream! Des Moines guns sans squishiness. May have matches with 7 Illinois on each team quite a bit in the future. Love the Des Moines but island hugging can be an issue from time to time.

I like your videos and comments most

this is basically des moines with a massive hull which can be used for tanking and brawling with crusiers, not to mention the free range on the guns if you know how to lead the catapult US shells

I'll be getting this...thing.

I imagine dealing high damage open water (or surviving in general) with this thing can be a nightmare since every time you fire you reset the detection countdown. So the ability to go dark between salvos is pretty much out the window.

So my question is, doesn't this kinda make Yoshino/ Azuma obsolete? Sure it doesn't have the same alpha per salvo nor torps, but the amount of fires you can set in this thing and the reload can make up for that. Also the fact that it has an American battleship hull and aa, already way more survivability than the ijn supers

So now we have to contend with cruisers with BB armor and health, cruisers with smoke, cruisers with agility, and all of them can sit and HE spam to their hearts content. Great. Cannot wait to bounce AP off this thing while it chunks me every 8 seconds for 6k of my health by pressing the skill button…

Fighting this ship in any T7 ship that isn't a DD has to be fun.

@danh7411

Жыл бұрын

For sure, thing can't even overmatch anything. Would love to farm it while receiving no damage in return.

@shadows4400

Жыл бұрын

Double uptiering should have been removed years ago... A colorado Vs any T9 is hell...same with T9 vs T11 now ☠☠☠

@anubhavdassharma1854

Жыл бұрын

It's literally a cruiser with BB armor 😂

@thelogicmatrix

Жыл бұрын

@@shadows4400 I mean the player base is shrinking, because of weegees bullshit

@sLim88CPC

11 ай бұрын

@@shadows4400and T9 used to be the save haven MM wise, could face T10 max. Good old times. Today you can end up bottom tier in a T10. :(

Man those weird USN BBs they add recently... I guess next will be two North Carolinas welded together at T10. Of course with a flight deck across them and torp launchers in the radar mast. And it will outpace and outspot cruisers. Something like 35kts + speed boost on top cause gimmick mania. WG really lost it. Nobody asked for those complete bastardizations of ships but they throw them at us. Completely ignoring that there are still lots of real ships they havent implemented yet but many players would love to get.

Yes!! More HE spamming torturous ships! Just what the game needed!!

Now I want to see a CV with BB secondaries, a DD with BB guns, and a BB with DD guns

@sardaukerlegion

Жыл бұрын

"I want to see a CV with BB secondaries" german Graf Zeppelin

@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43

Жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to an 203 sherman. Doubt it would be strong, but still it's a real test ship. 127 aa training boat wyoming tho? Maybe yes if it goes to play with Mikasa.

@jgalena1000

Жыл бұрын

HMS furious started out with 2 18 in guns (one forward and one aft) had the forward replaced with a flight deck and then later they removed the remaining gun to fit more dekc space.

@Mooncricketstinks

Жыл бұрын

@@sardaukerlegion that's not BB secondaries

@sardaukerlegion

Жыл бұрын

@@Mooncricketstinks Graf Z has Bismarck / Tirpitz secondaries, and Both are BBs.

I was waiting for this, and honestly it looks ridiculous. This whole "Hybrid" mentality doesn't bring diversity, it brings annoyance. Long range accuracy BBs like Slava, or close range brawler like Schlieffen brings diversity. Or Shima vs Daring etc brings diversity. A BB with cruiser DPM is just outright nasty.

It's a Des Moines that doesn't need to hide behind an island, *you are the island*

Oh boy a des memes with steroids

i meet this ship recently....it was in the enemy team....our Musashi....sunk really fast

Curious what mods you use, and how you move them around? I don't remember that icon on the bottom left being standard when aiming at a target.

Basically this ship is a DD with great armour, as the citadel is impossible to hit.

That first game was the normal Random game nowadays. The winner was decided by MM and it was essentially all over by the seven-minute mark. A full stomp. I miss the classic games that went the full time.

Buffalo guns, but BB size target and burn time? For RPs? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Now we need a sub with cruiser guns as that is actually historical

Looks like my next purchase

at 17km+ ranges AP might be good choice, you can actually penetrate 50mm+ decks due to plunging fire and it has actually faster travel time. ofc how good its over a fire it's hard to answer.

In 15 hours, this ship will be mine! :D

So mad I got the pos Slava when this comes out this week

Ahh yes, another meme ship by Wargaming reserved for the "L333T" players with every single line researched at least twice.....so by the time I will actually be able to buy this ship for research points...some time between now and the heat death of the Universe.....it will be nerfed into the ground or power-creeped by other, even better unreachable ships, while my own win ratio is blasted into the dirt, by those very same L33T players with access to the best ships in the game.....Thank You Wargaming. Thank You very much.

I can see that thing being really good against cruisers and dd's. really any ship that wants to kite out bb's.

I imagine this is WG's attempt to make Brawler-esc US BB's. Between the shorter range secondaries and the fire rate of the 302's... The section of BB line just screams midrange and cover fire, instead of sniper (MN line) or Midrange/Sniper (VT line). Honestly, i'd play it like a very large cruiser and keep the shorter range, in order for accuracy. The way you had the IL positioned at the beginning of the 2nd match was incredibly strong, and if the AP had actually smacked the Citadel of that cruiser, then the benefits would have been far outweighing trying to snipe in the thing. Also, if they did not change the mechanics of rams, then you retreating has the similar effect of running a ram flag.

This would be absolutely game defining in a tier 7-9 game. You could bully everything.

now waiting for the iowa hull just just fletcher guns

Shoulda been a Georgia hull lol. Get those de moine guns and the georgia secondaries on am enemy haha

Now I want a BB with a shit ton of de guns

also since its a BB, that bell sound for the loaded guns are gonna be very frequent

For that reload I’d want at least battlecruiser dispersion. Battleship dispersion should have DM auto loaders.

@jozseftoth8731

Жыл бұрын

agreed

After watching your first game, I thought the guns handle a lot like my Irian build. Its more of a torp/fire/concealment build. As an Irian player, who has often felt the pressure of trying to dodge every shot fired at me, having a little brawl might be nice.

This is a foolproof dm. Kinda glad it's locked behind research bureau so at least only people who can *somewhat* aim can get it, although still pretty unfortunate how expensive research point grinds are. Potatoes driving this would be so painful to watch.

BB with Destroyer guns is next

@thh1997ptvn

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it’s already here since the beginning. It’s called “secondaries”

@jgalena1000

Жыл бұрын

USS Wyoming had her 12 inch guns replaced with 5 inch turrets so it's possible for low tier.

This ship makes me sad. Illinois was a real thing. She was laid down and partially completed but canceled in 1945. Illinois was different than her sister ships, being an all welded design instead of riveted together like Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri and Wisconsin were. She would have been lighter and theoretically faster than the others. WG could have played off that, made Illinois kinda like a Georgia without overmatch. Maybe buff the secondaries a tad, since she was the newest of the class and whatever upgrades applied to the others would apply to her. Put a Georgia/Bourgogne speed boost on her, she could have played as a fast flanking BB.

Poor Colorado... "Nice and slow..." 😂

Always use for main battery shell hits mission Haha

no matter how many new ships they bring out...nothing will fix this game or the ridiculous player base

Looking at ship's icon next to its name, it's not a premium?

Looks super fun but no way I’ll be grinding for it

so a massive cruiser

As a history buff, this ship makes no sense whatsoever, BUT from a gamer point of view, this looks like it might just be my ideal battleship to farm in. Definitely up there with the Tsundere and Conqueror, at the very least. Well, if I were still playing WOWS, anyway.

@scatterlite2266

Жыл бұрын

There were very real designs planning to arm an iowa hull with cruiser caliber guns, to serve as a "heavy AA ship".

@NegotiatorGladiarius

Жыл бұрын

@@scatterlite2266 There were proposals and very preliminary designs for just about anything imaginable. Doesn't mean they were actually going anywhere.

@rastashaman9139

Жыл бұрын

I mean compared to the monstrosity that is the hybrid carrier BB, I think a battleship with cruiser guns is a bit more on the doable side haha.

@stotgunvsface5092

Жыл бұрын

Look up the battleship new jersey channel. He did a video about this when it was announced. The US navy had a spare Iowa class hull that was launched but not finished. Since carriers became the main power projector, this was given a good amount of thought to finish the ship like this. But it was determined to be to expensive and was scrapped.

@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43

Жыл бұрын

@@NegotiatorGladiarius Talking about "anything imaginable", Azure Lane just announced a character based on a 4x3 240mm super light cruiser design (yes, the soviets called it a light cruiser) with a stern hanger that carries 4 hydroplanes, as well as a slot for a pocket submarine. The chances are low, but imagine if they somehow decide that this is the content for the AL crossover this year... 😬😬

Whats next? Cruisers with battleship guns? Oh wait...

@sardaukerlegion

Жыл бұрын

..... Siegfried and Sevastopol....

Does the Illinois sit lower in the water than the Missouri/Iowa?

this thing having more dpm than buffalo is hilarious to me. buffalo just sort of sucks. illinois uses the battlecruiser dispersion formula like georgia does, so it's still accurate for a battleship. the accuracy parameters are identical to georgia actually.

I am still pissed off at the misnaming of a ship i brought to the devs year ago. This project was never intended for the BB-65 Illinois hull but was specifically drawn up for the more complete BB-66 Kentucky hull. I was the one who drug this up from Naval Archives, brought it up to the devs with all of its documentation and they turn around and change the state name which has incredibly pissed me off as this was the only project that ever carried my home state's name.

@alphariusomegon6711

8 ай бұрын

Perhaps they will do Kentucky as a T10, and as planned by the Navy? All those spicy secondaries and the trimmed down superstructure. Could definitely see them add it in as a T10 steel ship, but with like 7.5 second base reload.

Hull BB for light arm. That is what BC german, opposite is BC UK with heavy arm and light armor

Oh boy, a 21km HE behind-island spammer XXL armored des moin keeping all bb's in that range perma-burned. Yeah that's really what this game needs right now...

I got her - I’m still trying to get the play style down. I’m a “go at them guns blazing until I can hit them with my sword, tactics be damned!” type of player Obviously - cruiser, dd, and aircraft carrier are not my strong suit

If I have the Research Bureau points, do I take this or the Ohio?

this ship appears to have a good potential for credit farming... dont you think?

Hypothetically, let’s say you have Illinois and Ohio broadside to each other. Both have adrenaline rush and both fire AP, who would be the winner?

Surely this ship is gonna be op, I mean rng is what gets BBs , salvo just goes nope, also the fact they tend to have low dpm, if my cruiser could sit in the open trading with BBs be ez, let alone with twice the hp pool and a repair now.

@rasmus6705

Жыл бұрын

RNG gets them because it's the difference between a 60k salvo and 5k salvo. RNG in cruiser guns is the difference between 10k and 2k. I do think this ship will be strong but it won't have the DPM of a cruiser due to shite dispersion, and it won't have the damage potential of a BB due to low caliber guns. Just a sort off middle ground, so like most ships it can be played to both great success and horrible performance. Seems likely you will be playing HE spammer rotating between hiding behind islands and "tanking" from midrange, I have a strong feeling the AP will be nigh on useless except at close range broadsides given the BB dispersion formula and cruiser level damage payoff.

@danh7411

Жыл бұрын

What? This thing is gonna get turbo farmed by normal cruiser cause she can't overmatch them.

@hipperguy1654

Жыл бұрын

@@danh7411 is it your job to consistently post the most brain damaged comments and takes?

@nineonine9082

Жыл бұрын

At range probably yeah, but at close range with American AP your health pool will let you 1v1 them, just don't brawl or your gonna get fished, The ship made the trade off to crush most BBs and DDs easier at cost of Cruiser capability, you just gotta play her like a GIANT ASS AMERICAN cruiser, you don't trade unless it is favorable.

@danh7411

Жыл бұрын

@@nineonine9082 you mean the 3rd lowest hp for a tier 9 BB, Iowa's giant superstructure, Des Moines's paper turret and no overmatch? Sure, she can 1v1 a non German BB but the game isn't about fair 1v1.

Awesome work by the WG fucks! Now make a BB with smoke and Sherman guns! What this game really really needed is more HE spam. Hopefully they will put themselves out of business soon

@anubhavdassharma1854

Жыл бұрын

It's not that bad. Stop glorifying this. This game has bigger problems than DM on a hull as shitty as Iowa's hull

you build for secondary range and take the skill that gives you main battery reload when targets are in secondary range. You cant be citadelled, use that, enhance the already good dpm. Play it like a des moines, dont even bother with most targets outside of 14km

At this point i'm just waiting on WG to take on that idea of german Battlecarriers i've seen floating around on the internet. which would basically be Battleship-Carriers instead the other way around. Instead of taking a BB and slapping a Flight Deck on it, it would be a CV with Battelship or Cruiser guns slapped on it.

Does it get the American Heavy AP?

I think I've got the points for it. 😊

i want this ship so bad lol, a DM that doesnt get deleted the second it pops out from an island? yes plz

I wonder if they'll make a tier X version and name it USS Second Amendment. Or maybe it'll be the USS Maximum Dakka.

this literally looks like something i built in From the Depths

Good vid, but this ship just doesn't appeal to me, at least right now. Maybe after I play against a few, I'll feel different. It just seems like the Des Moines is better, and if you want the extra range, run a spotter instead of radar, then you also have Hydro.

I know is sacrilege but I'm gonna reset a couple of lines to get this one - I don't care - I just want to have fun with the guns (it's always about the guns - either big ones or more of them )

Hmm Illinois in arms race

This ship is WG acknowledging their player base is so stupid by a long margin; that playing a cruiser means you can't go broadside is far too complex for the 43% wr army.

Talk about a real battlecrusier

think ill just get the yolo Emilio and have fun

at long range shells land almost on 90 degree angle... May AP pierce decks? insane

They need make one with 16 Austin/Sherman guns and give the unlimited reload boosters ;~) radar too

I have to lead more than that with my montana so it's not that bad really.

Why is 19 pt commander "Navy Elite"?

the Illinois was never supposed to have 203mm guns, she was going to be equipped with the 406mm or the 457mm guns IRL, but she was never made, same with the Kentucky, the 6th and final Iowa class BB

@denzmerin2568

10 ай бұрын

Post war there were conversion proposals for Kentucky and Illinois with 203mm guns or missiles even.

How long is the ASW range? If this gets longer than Ohio's 6km thats some bullshit.

They really just need to buff the Yodos turn circle and deck armor.

1:22 no illinois got buffed to Battlecruiser disppersion during test, its no longer Battleship disppersion

That's that streamers ram, I have rams slower than that all the time and it will count for 100% of my health despite being in a larger BB with ram flag

this shit is dented i love it

Will be available since update 12.2 and for 51k research points.

what are your graphic settings? why does your game look so good? when I play On ultra it still looks like poop and looks all gray and washed out

I feel like they need to make RNG less of a thing for battleships since they have such an insanely long reload and they just keep adding all this stuff that punishes them and pushing. Nothing worse than cruisers sailing completely sideways to you like an idiot and your shells just flying all over the place and then having to wait 30 seconds.

@waverleyjournalise5757

Жыл бұрын

Battleships should have much longer reloads and waaay better accuracy. Might take a while to shoot but if you can aim people would actually fear you.