Don't forget to clean the combustion air screen and inlet water screen! Those buggers get dirty

@noahnk1876

Жыл бұрын

And the combustion condensate trap should be cleaned as well

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

The cold inlet screen too. There is a whole maintenance process I’ll do a video on soon. This was just the flushing.

@AlonsoOrtiz-bl5hg

5 ай бұрын

😊

Also a good thing to note youre supposed to flush the opposite way the water typically circulates through the system

only thing I would do different, is not open the T&P valve ( unless I was prepared to replace it ) in my experience once you crack a older T&P valve open they’ll almost always seep .. 👍👍

@brianfield58

10 ай бұрын

I never touch a t&p unless absolutely necessary.

@Alldayandtomorrow101

8 ай бұрын

definitely made that mistake once

@agentalexcamp

5 ай бұрын

T&P valve?

@oneshotpete6.591

5 ай бұрын

@@agentalexcamp temperature and pressure relief valve … when on a (older unit) the rubber washer which is seated via spring tension becomes dry and will never seat 100% again .. thus causing a obnoxious drip

What about the in-line screen ? That needs to be removed and cleaned also def gonna be a call back

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Why “def a call back?”

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

@yamaszlofmcdurkin I read the comment. Have yet to have that call back though 👍🏻

@ht1863

11 ай бұрын

@@theplumbersplunger that extra trip charge eh?

I'm a home owner and a landlord.. I do this to my water heaters every year.. I also use a pool sock for all the sentiment that comes out so it doesn't circulates back in..

@FOFBASS1

Жыл бұрын

A landlord that does Pm on his equipment. Now I’ve heard everything.

I like it 👍 good video as a licensed plumber in Oklahoma.

Homeowner never get that done. Wait till it breaks 😂

@lambition

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why I don't recommend tankless unless that is the only option. After considering higher installation cost and maintenance costs, I don't see much advantage over storage water heater other than space saving. It would make sense gas prices were much higher than it is right now, but where I live, there isn't that much of savings. My gas bill is only around $40 during non heating season.

leave that hot valve closed when you flush the system with the t&p

I never open up the ports until i rinse the lines and heat exchanger by taking water and running it just like i would white vinegar or haymaker

That is a real hacky install! 😮

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Not my install lol. I agree though.

Don't forget to do visual inspection opening the door and clean it

Great demonstration. Is it the same with a Navien tankless?

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes, same process. You could also clean cold water inlet screen and the fresh air screen.

The caps! The sign of a pro.

Thanks for the video! Question. Once I start my submersible pump the flushing starts, but after about 30 secs, water with the descaler solution stops shooting out back into the bucket. Any idea why this would happen? Tia

I would recommend detaching cold side first, then pushing a bunch of water through the hot side, getting all of the unwanted solution out.

What does it look like when the system hasn't been flushed in years?

@webfreakz

Жыл бұрын

Probably dark green water

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

I have seen the water be black with large calcium/scale flakes.

What about the filter? When do you pull it out and clean before or after the flush

Great video what type of pump did you use? How many gallons per minute or hour

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

The pump comes with the Whitlam Flow-Aide System Descaler Kit. It’s a 500gph pump.

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I personally have a Navien sell this brand... I have been very happy with it... Can I ask... what brand do you typically install or sell to customers?

👍🏻👍🏻

I wanna know who installed that thing to begin with

That when it the gas water heater and you using underground water

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

What?

I'll have to do some maintenance at my in-laws' place. Theirs is a few years old, so I'll be curious what the water will look like. Maybe this is a dumb question, but can you use an air compressor to flush it, instead of pumping the water out? Just because I already have an air compressor. 😅

If you have a water softener do you still recommend this?

Not gonna lie....I jumped when you almost pulled that pump hose off without shutting the valve again

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

😅

Do you also use gallon of water with vinegar

navien has a specific way. Warranty gets voided quickly if not doing it correctly

@theplumbersplunger

11 ай бұрын

Depends on who you talk to. Had a heat exchanger I replaced a few weeks ago on a 7 year old Navien. No questions asked they swapped it out. Tankless was flushed yearly by the homeowner and that was good enough for them

Can you flush from just one side? The valve to the cold side isn't accessible. (The plumber that installed it helped flip the house and didn't care about what he was doing).

Open the cold after and keep the hot closed to flush out any remaining solution. Opening the hot side will surely send solution to fixtures in house. It’s very acidic so fill a couple of buckets to flush it out before opening the hot side.

Of all the tankless water heaters I have installed, no one has ever called me back to do the annual flush. So sad.

@mx-lj4qq

Жыл бұрын

You are supposed to reach out to them

@markm7311

Жыл бұрын

@@mx-lj4qq we have called them but they don't want to do the service. So sad 😭

@Sharper714

9 ай бұрын

Easy to do. Maybe they are doing it themselves

@markm7311

9 ай бұрын

@@Sharper714 maybe, but I doubt it

@TheAcenightcreeper

5 ай бұрын

Maybe they are just DIY…like the people watching this video…why would a service guy watch this? Should already know how its done…so sad

%90 solid up till the end

What does doing that to the T&P valve at the end do?? When you were saying run some water through the lines when you’re done.

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

I was running water through the tankless by opening it. It’s safer to just open a faucet on hot though. Old T&P valves might leak.

@mx-lj4qq

Жыл бұрын

Hes removing the remaining solution out of the system as a homeowner would not want to bathe in it

What’s the reason for this for limescale or something and how come the prv is on the hot in Britain ours goes on the cold as hot expands it goes back into cold and through blow off

How does it do with whole house reverse osmosis from well at 66 TDS?

When the hose is in the water while the pump is going it stop it from coming out properly and fully empty. I used a siphon to clean my fist tanks. If I leave the hose that is filling under the water it’ll stop filling for some reason. Idk the physics but jus wanna make sure that ain’t happening to your tanks and it still has water or one.

totally easy to do yourself.

A plug connect for the water heater?

What type of pump is used in this video

What are you flushing if its a tankless water heater?

What type of pump us that?

What happens if you don’t turn the gas off on the flush?

Meanwhile I’m enjoying my traditional gas water heater and doing nothing 🤣

How about also leaving the solution in and letting it heat up. It works in coffee machines.

What are you going to flush if there is no tank?

Is that galvanize steel?

You always want to remove the filter. Put it in the bucket so it can be soaking when you flush the tank with water heater. I do it for about forty five minutes.

Will this help if the error message 13 pops up?

Yeah, because the homeowner’s gonna go through all that bullshit

Get you a 5 gallon bucket, a $75 dollar pump off of Amazon, 3 gallons of vinegar & let it run 2-4 hours. Then check the screen to make sure that’s clear as well. Then have a second bucket with clean water to flush out the vinegar for 1 min. Repeat every 12 months.

@matiasg97

6 ай бұрын

do you have a recommendation on a pump?

How old is that tankless? I been flushing them for a while and never seen one that dirty. Is there a softener install? Help me understand 😅

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

2 years old 😅 no water softener

@theredvillage5773

Жыл бұрын

@@theplumbersplunger definitely need one 😂😂😂

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

@@theredvillage5773 for sure lol

I do not turn the gas off. Cleans the heat exchanger better.

@mx-lj4qq

Жыл бұрын

How is that?

How often do I need to do that?

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Once a year typically

No filter?

If it's tankless... What's there to flush

How can I flush mine if I don't have those fancy expensive valves?

I'm running into a lot of situations they need flush twice a year

German plumbes are laughing 😂

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@bolgerisdashizz

Жыл бұрын

​@@theplumbersplunger First off I'm not German, im Irish. Just been there for 10 years working. The method of installation and the materials used are here the issue.

Sounds like a good opportunity to eat your lunch lol

If you have one of these heaters, get a normal water heater.

@edquier40

Жыл бұрын

True! greedy plumbers want to sell the expensive crap, and all the little upgrades. Basically a RIPOFF all the way around.

Wow cowboy much 😂😂

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

?

hmm..I don't agree with your last part where you flush out the vinegar out of the system..you show by forcing safety relief valve spring handle, it is quite common plumbers treating that safety relief like a regular valve, if it sat there for a while and play with valve it may start leaking, thus the exact way you were flushing the heat exchanger by closing both valves (cold and hot), but this time you open cold ,LEAVE hose attached to the hot outlet side with valve to end user off but the drain opened with hose into drain..easy-peasy, without disturbing safety relief valve..that's the plumba'way..no offense 😮

What are you flushing if it's tankless?? Maybe it's a wash out?? Idk😂

@mx-lj4qq

Жыл бұрын

Copper heater exchanger which scale latches onto

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Heat exchanger

Why are American heaters so complicated? Geez

They still haven't automated this process?

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

No 😅

What no flow test

The seller should come flush it for you for life since it cost twice as much to use as a regular hot water heater

This guys forgot all kinds of steps

Tankless, biggest POS on the market, super expensive per BTU, but they will not tell you that, just rip you off on the sale.

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

I installed one in my house. Haven’t noticed an increase in my gas bill yet.

@edquier40

Жыл бұрын

@@theplumbersplunger You must be single with no kids,,,, oh, and do not forget you have to upgrade the gas system to be able to handle the 200k btu new load.... and the water system if it is under 3/8" houselines... yeah, a real advantage, you just keep LYING about the real costs and keep selling that expensive crap to victims.

Everything is wrong on that tankless installation,not up to code

Do not buy these.

@supac4789

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@theplumbersplunger

Жыл бұрын

Why?