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How to Fix Squeaky Stairs

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  • @doctorBen87
    @doctorBen8711 ай бұрын

    Best instructions I could find on KZread 👌

  • @ronpd1982
    @ronpd19824 жыл бұрын

    Just finally completed my 90 year old stairs using this method. Absolutely amazing results. I also used Elmer's pro-bond Max construction grade glue. Fantastic results. Thanks for the video!!

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    @wischmopps293

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @youngboygio1335
    @youngboygio13353 жыл бұрын

    Who else is sick of getting cuaght stealing snacks out of the kitchen because of your squeaky stair? 🤚🏼

  • @mandymoore5774

    @mandymoore5774

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right here!

  • @youngboygio1335

    @youngboygio1335

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sylas Callum dayum Yeo lol

  • @hotmetalslugs

    @hotmetalslugs

    10 ай бұрын

    Many DIYers’ mommas!

  • @chaz4471

    @chaz4471

    3 ай бұрын

    👍meeeee

  • @samrunit
    @samrunit2 жыл бұрын

    This is something I never thought I would find a support. Thanks a million!!

  • @psalkin
    @psalkin2 жыл бұрын

    Absolute perfect explanation on what to look for and how to fix it! Thank you!

  • @mrfirehose4
    @mrfirehose42 жыл бұрын

    This actually works - Old stairs with no middle riser supports - this does work - thanks so much.

  • @ed0c
    @ed0c Жыл бұрын

    what if you can’t see under stairs!

  • @ClarkeLSmith
    @ClarkeLSmith9 ай бұрын

    Really great video! Thanks for sharing. I opened up my stairs last night… the cleanup took twice as long as the work. LOL. This is the best video I’ve watched on that topic so far! 🎉

  • @MswahiliKweli
    @MswahiliKweli3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the very clear instructions . It was very easy to follow and I will definitely use the tips you provided. Five ***** Stars!

  • @loripatterson7882
    @loripatterson78823 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!! Was about to sink a chunk of cash into having them replaced!!

  • @alienproductions9948
    @alienproductions99482 жыл бұрын

    100 year old house. Followed this video. Game changer. Thank you!

  • @tannertasman
    @tannertasman7 ай бұрын

    really concise yet information dense language - thanks!

  • @bobzombie8072
    @bobzombie80724 жыл бұрын

    “Right here”

  • @sweetvuvuzela4634

    @sweetvuvuzela4634

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where bud

  • @sweetvuvuzela4634

    @sweetvuvuzela4634

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BexyBoo76 🙊🙊

  • @timmurphy2890
    @timmurphy2890 Жыл бұрын

    Just bought a new 90 year old house with very squeaky stairs and have been wondering how I was going to fix it. This is a very good tutorial video. Thank you

  • @TomMakesVidz
    @TomMakesVidz3 жыл бұрын

    I can finally feel comfortable sneaking out at night 😂

  • @hooks4nooks
    @hooks4nooks3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you did a great job on this video, and I liked the way you did it. Quick, bam, next shot, explained, done! Very nice! Thanks a lot.

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    @abrahambennett4656

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @abrahambennett4656

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @abrahambennett4656

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @ramonjack6784

    @ramonjack6784

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Abraham Bennett No problem =)

  • @Dimian7
    @Dimian72 жыл бұрын

    This is what makes KZread great, thanks

  • @mykolashatkovskyi576
    @mykolashatkovskyi576 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! The very best video on howto DIY fix the squeaky stairs - thank you, sir!

  • @MrJazzohjazz
    @MrJazzohjazz2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the lesson. Very clearly demonstrated. Excellent.

  • @Summi2121
    @Summi2121 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great Video! It works! I just tried it!! 👍👍👍✌️

  • @ashleygainard4978
    @ashleygainard49783 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Shame I can't apply this to my own case. What would be the solution for fixing the creaking noise from above? I've no Access to below due to kitchen remodeling. Cheers

  • @KC08RAS

    @KC08RAS

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thick carpet and underlay,

  • @SVR25
    @SVR25 Жыл бұрын

    I NEEDED THIS!!! Thank you!

  • @ELEVOPR
    @ELEVOPR2 жыл бұрын

    I have to do this Asap, My wife knows how late I am getting home, Damn stairs are a giveaway 😥 Thanks for sharing. 🤗

  • @Danny-fs1hk
    @Danny-fs1hk3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video; thanks!

  • @markkram5867
    @markkram5867 Жыл бұрын

    What if you have no acces under the stairs ?? 😮😮 like me

  • @tylern3277
    @tylern327710 ай бұрын

    Finally a good tutorial!

  • @carlrobson5745
    @carlrobson57452 жыл бұрын

    Clear and simple to follow great tutorial.

  • @BaresarkSlayne
    @BaresarkSlayne2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks for this. I just bought my first house and I have a few choice really squeaky stairs.

  • @brianlavigne596
    @brianlavigne5962 жыл бұрын

    That works fine if you have access on the back side of the stairs. Mine squeak a lot and my back stairs is covered in sheet rock. I'd rather try to fix the stairs without knocking down all that sheet rock. And I'm an amateur at these kinds of things.

  • @hattrick-df4bo

    @hattrick-df4bo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pulled down the back side drywall yesterday(not that hard)- about the only way to stop the squeak is access to this area.

  • @cwilde85
    @cwilde852 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, I'll give this a shot! I've noticed each one of my stairs has a slight gap where the tread meets the riser. Is there a good way to fix this? I had planned on using new screws to try and bring the 2 pieces of stairs together, but don't want to cause any unnecessary damage. The stairs are about 100 years old. Cheers!

  • @sergioleone4215
    @sergioleone42153 жыл бұрын

    Since you have access underneath the stairs, you could install joist hangers on the stringers and then run a 2x6 from one end to the other. The center of the tread will be supported all the way across from end to end and it would only take a few minutes per tread to install.

  • @PurpleKaye_

    @PurpleKaye_

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you happen to see this …. do you think I should do this in addition to the method in the video or can I just use the joist hangers?

  • @satchelpage6194

    @satchelpage6194

    2 жыл бұрын

    would it be too much weight?

  • @hotmetalslugs

    @hotmetalslugs

    10 ай бұрын

    @@PurpleKaye_ The single new support will help a lot. But if there was space between the parts to begin with, it may not be absolutely silent until you do both. And then if you’re gonna do the job of attaching the treads to risers, and that fixes it, this additional method may be extraneous. But on the other hand, a little overkill never hurt.

  • @jennifersteed2000
    @jennifersteed2000Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!!!

  • @jameswestook3404
    @jameswestook3404 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant worked so well first time in 4 years that l can walk up and down stairs without noise

  • @oscarli4020
    @oscarli40204 жыл бұрын

    His voice sounds suspiciously like daily dose of internet

  • @unboxsports8016

    @unboxsports8016

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right

  • @hand__banana

    @hand__banana

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't hear it

  • @daveloz1
    @daveloz1 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you excellent video..... Under my stairs it's covered with a big board would this be easy to remove? Thanks.

  • @ML-uu7wy
    @ML-uu7wy11 ай бұрын

    Awesome!! Thanks for doing this video…

  • @twinavent4440
    @twinavent44408 ай бұрын

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  • @elizabethguzman9914
    @elizabethguzman9914 Жыл бұрын

    Can you use glue to fix the vinyl floor squeeking. ????

  • @mozartamadeus1580
    @mozartamadeus15802 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. What size drill and screws did you use? Thanks

  • @Leowiseone
    @Leowiseone2 жыл бұрын

    I think this solution is also just temporary. The wood works itself in and starts creating space between the wood blocks after some time again

  • @dickyrock1
    @dickyrock12 жыл бұрын

    Yep great video man. Thanks

  • @DABiDo.O
    @DABiDo.O2 жыл бұрын

    Should the glue of the initial block dry before we hammer the wedge ?

  • @hotmetalslugs

    @hotmetalslugs

    10 ай бұрын

    Shouldn’t matter. The screws are holding it all in place.

  • @mimilong3817
    @mimilong38172 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @chaz4471
    @chaz44713 ай бұрын

    Should I put liquid nails in the gaps?

  • @hattrick-df4bo
    @hattrick-df4bo2 жыл бұрын

    Great tips, gonna give it a whirl!

  • @way2realgaming17
    @way2realgaming173 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it be smarter to just cut a full triangle riser for the middle?

  • @loripatterson7882

    @loripatterson7882

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought about that too. But a lot more work/time.

  • @yvesbrassard9022
    @yvesbrassard90222 жыл бұрын

    Our stairs to the basement are squeaky like this and it drives me nuts. Unfortunately i do not have the appropriate tools to fix it (saw). It's on my to do list!

  • @ErikHaanVincent
    @ErikHaanVincent Жыл бұрын

    My stairs creak from one of the side risers. And they don't have the supports on the riser side shown early in this video. Could I just use the mini-risers created during this video on the riser side? I'm happy to send a brief video of my situation, if anyone thinks they might be able to help me diagnose what to do.

  • @gueritajfs
    @gueritajfs2 жыл бұрын

    Great job

  • @westie0113uk
    @westie0113uk Жыл бұрын

    If you can’t get access to under the stairs or you are trying to fix a floorboard then pour some watered down PVA and pour it into the joints of the timber.

  • @shays.a.3176
    @shays.a.31762 жыл бұрын

    Easy to understand video

  • @DaDaDo661
    @DaDaDo6612 жыл бұрын

    What if you have no access to the bottom of the stairs? What other method can I use

  • @hr5020
    @hr50203 жыл бұрын

    Is it best to drill through the 2 by 4 into the riser? I’ve always thought that you should drill from thin wood into thicker wood for better hold. The stairs I’m repairing are totally unfinished. Or is it a case of if you need to replace the glue block it’s easier access?

  • @stansbruv3169
    @stansbruv31692 жыл бұрын

    So helpful. Good work dude

  • @jamalinkebu955
    @jamalinkebu955 Жыл бұрын

    Finna sneak out on summer

  • @rickmurphy7274
    @rickmurphy72742 жыл бұрын

    I used Elmers Carpenters glue max and watered it down and blew it into the seam between the step and the riser with my compressor and blow gun No more creak in the step

  • @briancapp8287
    @briancapp82873 жыл бұрын

    Great job 👏 👍

  • @bigsteve6729
    @bigsteve67292 жыл бұрын

    This was great thanks dude

  • @Wundai
    @Wundai2 жыл бұрын

    Wow awesome instruction video! Very practical! :D

  • @willmol2547
    @willmol25475 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @donktheclown
    @donktheclown5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent job. Thank you.

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    5 жыл бұрын

    No problem!

  • @4Shreks
    @4Shreks3 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I wish I can say your method works for me , but unfortunately I can't.

  • @petejarvis8877
    @petejarvis88773 жыл бұрын

    I cant get under my stairs as they are drylined 🤔

  • @skulakk1360
    @skulakk13604 жыл бұрын

    I ended up driving in a few more screws when the carpet was getting replaced and problem solved

  • @ak47bobbarke
    @ak47bobbarke3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! Like and subscribed!

  • @ajf32
    @ajf324 жыл бұрын

    really good video thanks for the tips :-)

  • @SirPalsrok
    @SirPalsrok4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks

  • @randyvalantino6850
    @randyvalantino68502 жыл бұрын

    Rather than use small glue blocks why not put a length of timer from the left string to the right string . Maybe 4x2 . Glued to riser and tread and fixed to the strings

  • @satchelpage6194

    @satchelpage6194

    2 жыл бұрын

    great idea, would this add too much weight?

  • @hotmetalslugs

    @hotmetalslugs

    10 ай бұрын

    @@satchelpage6194 no. Think of people walking on it and then the weight of a 30” piece of 2x4. The stringers can hold a gigantic amount of weight, properly supported.

  • @spekenbonen72
    @spekenbonen723 жыл бұрын

    Attach the risers to the step which is above it. This also makes the steps flex less... Also. You can wax joints which are not fastened or glued (You probably have a block of wax or some cheap candles to wax your handsaw or handplane in your toolbox???) Something you need to do BEFORE construction of the stairs though because this doesn't work (waxing) in a renovation

  • @eddmolina2578
    @eddmolina25784 жыл бұрын

    Great Job , nice Thanks

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    4 жыл бұрын

    No problem 👍

  • @khurramahmed8498
    @khurramahmed84987 ай бұрын

    Why do u need the wedges? Cant you just put whole blocks there?

  • @Lucky-tab

    @Lucky-tab

    4 ай бұрын

    Using wedge to level the tread alot easier than using a whole block. It acting like a shim.

  • @machninety7334
    @machninety73342 жыл бұрын

    How did you pick the length of the screw?

  • @machninety7334

    @machninety7334

    2 жыл бұрын

    I assume either a 2 1/4”, or a 2 1/2” I believe the wood glue does most of the holding when it dries, but I didn’t know what the preferred length of the screw going into the riser should be. I’m new with home improvements and woodworking.

  • @JohnDoe12515
    @JohnDoe12515 Жыл бұрын

    Genius

  • @tbone9603
    @tbone96032 жыл бұрын

    I can’t get under my stairs, now what should I do?

  • @emmanuellerousseau7314
    @emmanuellerousseau73149 ай бұрын

    Paint them on the top as well as below and ...it will stop squeaking!

  • @pureplay7071
    @pureplay7071 Жыл бұрын

    if you was going to put carpet down some thin right angle brackets would have done the same thing.

  • @konstantinethegr8
    @konstantinethegr83 жыл бұрын

    What length screws?

  • @lukasz20
    @lukasz202 жыл бұрын

    My next project

  • @THUMBSUPBITCHify
    @THUMBSUPBITCHify2 жыл бұрын

    What if you can’t access underneath the stairs :(

  • @jasonv9202
    @jasonv92025 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way to fix the same problem but without access to the bottom of the stairs? My stairs are covered with finished drywall so I can’t access them from the bottom.

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    5 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, no. Either the drywall has to be removed, or a different method must be used. There are special screws that go in from the top of the tread, and go into the riser. These can be concealed with wood filler afterward. If there is a big enough gap between the riser and tread, this will cause the tread to bow downward and might not fix the problem. Another method, if the treads are not enclosed by the routed out stringers, is to remove the treads, add shims where there are gaps under the tread, and glue/screw everything back into place. It all depends on how the stairs are designed, and how much work you feel like doing. Hope this helps.

  • @MrDdz

    @MrDdz

    2 жыл бұрын

    This guy did it from above. Gonna try it out soon. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZaqC1duSYbDQmdY.html

  • @K0NY718
    @K0NY7184 жыл бұрын

    What if my stairs are hidden? I cant see the back or under of my stairs its covered in drywall.

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably have to screw in from the tread into the riser past flush of the tread surface, and then fill in the screw head to conceal it. If everything is covered up that's about all there is to do to try stopping the squeak.

  • @LJsReef
    @LJsReef2 жыл бұрын

    What if you can't get under your stairs?🤔

  • @V4inShadow
    @V4inShadow2 жыл бұрын

    In days of highschool/young adult midnight promiscuity I grew keen to which steps but then mom "couldve sworn she heard more than one person on stairs" so I became a ninja with it.. carry thy prize like a knight and step accurately like sinking stones game from MXC 🤣😂🤣 then the game was how to keep them quiet from both admiration and obnoxious measure to secure the night 🤸‍♂️🤙💪🤷‍♂️💁‍♂️ Edit: Tired of being 6'1" trying to become masterful at car stoofs Her house: no go Mom pissed off Sicilian with a great left hand Dad...carries...everywhere she had to put dogs out maybe not pair of cujos but deff mucho dangerous so nah If u are offended or salty welcome to youtube/internet #iwillnotbedenied🤣😂🤣😅🤦‍♂️

  • @clipstretch8147
    @clipstretch81473 жыл бұрын

    How did you get under your stairs

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    3 жыл бұрын

    On these stairs they were left exposed underneath. Newer houses will more than likely be closed up and finished with drywall.

  • @clipstretch8147

    @clipstretch8147

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gameoflife7235 oh that's cool you can put stuff under there

  • @Heli4213
    @Heli42134 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!!!!

  • @security8576
    @security85763 жыл бұрын

    how to fix if your underside is closed up?

  • @scottwright388

    @scottwright388

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are your stairs carpeted?

  • @security8576

    @security8576

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scottwright388 No it is not, i have tried using the fix it screws but still did not help and i do not want to open the sheetrock that is covering the back of the stairs, so, my question is is there any other way to fix it without opening the back of the stairs?

  • @scottwright388

    @scottwright388

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@security8576 fyi, I was in stair manufacturing for almost 30 years. It's hard to help with very little info. I never used those fixit screws, but the concept seems sketchy. From my experience, if you can drive a screw or two at an angle towards the wall, in the corners where the riser meets the stringer, it almost always eliminates squeaks. But without carpet, you may not have that option.

  • @michaelraduazzo6146
    @michaelraduazzo61464 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned, "flat side up". Does that mean the cut side up? I really could use the advice.

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    4 жыл бұрын

    The non-cut side up. So the pieces go together oriented like they were before cutting, only not perfectly because the large cut edge is pushed up to the tread before wedging in the cut peice. Hope that makes a little better sense.

  • @michaelraduazzo6146

    @michaelraduazzo6146

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gameoflife7235 Glad I asked. In the video it looks the other way around. Thanks so much for the response! Keep the videos coming!

  • @mattbockbrader2140

    @mattbockbrader2140

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've watched it 4 times, the cut side is definitely facing the tread above it.

  • @imkaneforever

    @imkaneforever

    Жыл бұрын

    He's referring to the wedge with the flat side up, so it sits flush with the horizontal stair when pressed onto the riser piece. The piece on the riser has the angled portion up.

  • @thomasdoherty6876
    @thomasdoherty6876 Жыл бұрын

    Or just glue square blocks the length of the stair in the corner and screw through the tread and riser. The wedges your using will make problem worse because its pulling the riser out the tread 🤦

  • @hotmetalslugs

    @hotmetalslugs

    10 ай бұрын

    The wedge fills the gap. And you saw the result at the end I assume.

  • @cschneider3872
    @cschneider387211 ай бұрын

    A swabian would say: “Ed schee aber seldta ! “ which means: not beautiful but rare

  • @mattalbrecht7471
    @mattalbrecht74712 жыл бұрын

    Problem is I can't get to the stairs because it's a finished ceiling underneath it

  • @homayounsolaimani8856
    @homayounsolaimani8856 Жыл бұрын

    Solve the same problem if there isn’t any access to the reverse side of the stairs.

  • @lunch2102
    @lunch21023 жыл бұрын

    Is there an easier way?

  • @scottwright388

    @scottwright388

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is...depends on the stairs.

  • @olegsilyuk4593
    @olegsilyuk45935 жыл бұрын

    Didnt work for me

  • @Ironbuket
    @Ironbuket4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, but this doesnt seem like a very robust method. The entire weight of whatever is going up the stairs is on that little shim with only glue holding it in place. I dont think that shim will stay put in the long-term, might work for a couple of years if lucky

  • @ronpd1982

    @ronpd1982

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not only glue but also screws - big difference

  • @Ironbuket

    @Ironbuket

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ronpd1982 Did you watch the whole video? The wedge/shim was only glued in - no screws 5:12

  • @ronpd1982

    @ronpd1982

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ironbuket 540 - 545 he has the screws in - really need both ....

  • @Ironbuket

    @Ironbuket

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ronpd1982 The screws are no in the wedge/shim. You really need to learn to read

  • @ronpd1982

    @ronpd1982

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ironbuket ok here how it works. The riser which is screwed in supports the wedge. The wedge is jammed in with glue that will support 3000 lbs. Remember good wood glue is super strong. When someone steps on that stair the wedge that glued will transfer the weight right into the Riser and the whole thing is supported by the screwed & glued in riser. Hope this helps.

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay3 жыл бұрын

    MY CREAKING STAIRS ARE OPEN , AND HAVE NO RISER'S.

  • @bennym1956
    @bennym1956 Жыл бұрын

    Screw it........literially !

  • @dickiedogs727
    @dickiedogs727 Жыл бұрын

    Nice vid thank you.

  • @asxfdar
    @asxfdar2 жыл бұрын

    After a solution as I stay up late and creaky stairs and floors wakes my parents up ☹️

  • @eashanipatel1603
    @eashanipatel16033 жыл бұрын

    Your results seem great but lol for a person who knows nothing of what you’re saying, it’s kinda hard to follow especially since you said a lot and really fast. Could you maybe go slower and explain in layman’s terms kindly? Because I def want to try this at my parents’ house who have stairs that are exposed in the bottom in the basement! Thank you :)

  • @maceo2012

    @maceo2012

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's screwing a block of wood to the front of the stairs. (Riser) Make sure you don't screw too far and poking through the front. Each block was 2 1/2 inches or so. And was sliced into two parts. Like slicing a big wedge of cheese. Just use the sliced off part to wedge back into the main part. Glue it and tap it in. Do it for each step. Voila. No more squeak. You can do two per step. Or one in the middle of each step.

  • @gittin_funky

    @gittin_funky

    Жыл бұрын

    you can change the speed of the video

  • @willie9397
    @willie93974 жыл бұрын

    who ever built those stairs needs a smack 100% wrong, too narrow of a stringer and no middle stringer Im surprised they didn't collapse

  • @gameoflife7235

    @gameoflife7235

    4 жыл бұрын

    The joys of cheap 1970s tract homes. While this would never pass code today at least they used oak which has held up very well.

  • @clintt5266

    @clintt5266

    3 жыл бұрын

    My house was built in the 40s and the stairs are the exact same. Fir treads and risers. Still holding strong but man, super squeaky. If there was a middle stringer under the stairs you'd be whacking your head on it all the way down to the basement, so I guess they made a choice back in those days.