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@CS-amegmondo

Ай бұрын

AW3225QF is better monitor than Aorus fO32U2 ? What you think?

Fixing VRR issues by not using VRR. You are a funny guy.

@Benefits

16 күн бұрын

Yea this video doesn't really help anyone. We want to use VRR but without the flickering. We don't want to turn VRR off like this guy is telling people to do.

I really don't think its as much frame rate as it is frame time. I picked up a PG27AQDM a few months ago and it was driving me nuts. It drove me nuts how VRR flicker didn't seem to be something that anyone was really covering. But even on a 4090 / 7950x3D setup i was still getting flickering even when capping my FPS. The only common factor was in games where the frame time was bad. Capping it lower may help with the frame time, but that's not the frame rate that fixed the flicker. IE: In Remnant II, I was getting ~200 FPS on average. I capped it lower at 144. I didn't dip below 144 and was still getting flickering. Capped it at 120 and the same thing. Ended up returning the monitor for now. VRR flicker is a problem on all monitors but is just more apparent on OLEDs and VAs. OLED just wasnt for me, yet.

@jasonfallel8829

Ай бұрын

OLED is great , its the best

@band0lero

Ай бұрын

Exactly. On Tarkov it was unfixable, the game has a bit of frame-time wobblery and there was no getting around it at all. Disabled VRR for Tarkov specifically and it was fine. Now playing STLKER SOC even with the FPS locked to 180fps, the frametime spikes produce noticeable flickering. Again, disabled VRR for it and it has been smooth sailing.

@jasonfallel8829

Ай бұрын

@@band0lero OLED is the best monitor, how dare you complain about obvious issues. Why dont you mention how great it is ?

@band0lero

Ай бұрын

@@jasonfallel8829 lmao, I get that some of the OLED hype is a bit obnoxious, but I believe most of the monitor focused review channels have been pretty fair about them. IMO it is still the best compromise solution so far. It’s far from perfect, but also far better than LCD.

@BabySnipe517

29 күн бұрын

Thanks my guy appreciate it

Is this the Aorus 27 inch or 32 inch?

Thanks

the flicker i got came at locked fps, like in game menus and lobbies or web browser. lowering the monitor refresh rate helped me, from 240hz to 238hz, 200hz or 220hz. also always using afterburner which i set to an fps cap 2 fps below monitor refresh rate.

In Fortnite on an 144hz IPS panel I had major stuttering when unlocked or fps capped at 240, when I capped to 144, the stuttering and performance issues went away. I thought it was better to allow the fps uncapped for lower input lag but I don't believe this is true and it caused issues. Not exactly the same issue but similar.

@sudd3660

Ай бұрын

you only benefit from uncapped fps is you get at least 100fps over the capped. i do not get enough fps in Fortnite and fps cap is not a benefit for me. a cap only works if it lowers the fps at some point. but i do have a afterburn cap that works in all games and set it to 2 fps lower than monitor refresh rate. so i get gsync activation at all times.

Thanks for the video. I never tried this one. The way I fixed was turning off Gsync and turn on Vsync Fast mode. It works great.

What about 40 fps cap, it will also remove this VRR flickering? There are many demanding or unoptimized games out there, so I like to run them at 40fps cap. With VRR enabled, even 40fps has low input lag, making it much more responsive and playable.

Had bad flickering in Need for Speed High Stakes - a 1999 game, at the track Kindiak Park at night. The headlight cones with the dark night around it causes the headlights to flicker badly. That the refreshrate was with freesync all over the place jumping all around all numbers instead of staying on the game's hardcapped flat 64 fps, didnt help either obviously :D

What would the VRR range of the S95C be?

Ive been using the lg 32 oled havent noticed this issue plus i dont use freesync or gsync

@Patrick73787

Ай бұрын

"i dont use freesync or gsync" That's why!

@03Edgar

Ай бұрын

@@Patrick73787it creates latency and inpute lag fyi. Unless you on console then i get it

By disabling VRR you are reintroducing jitters and screen tearing back that were fixed by vrr tech.

Setting my AW3225QF to 120 / 60 hz = no flicker , setting gsync off = no flicker. Huge tip : NOT INSTALLING Dell software in windows update (gets installed after display setup automaticly) almost completly removes flicker for me

@razor2049

17 күн бұрын

The dell software is a must

Not the exiting from vrr range causes flicker but a simple fps change causes. Vrr gsync are dead stuffs

I have the MSI MPG 271QRX. It's not a certified G-SYNC compatible monitor, and I found that simply turning G-SYNC off fixed the issue. The flicker was especially noticeable in Alan Wake 2, but turning it off eliminated the issue entirely for me. I still have adaptive sync turned on for the monitor and VSYNC on in the control panel, with the FPS capped at 357. Everything is perfect now

@coolbvwes1

Ай бұрын

Than vrr wouldn't work probably with gsync turned off, but tbh I got the same monitor and I never saw screen tearing wit vrr off so why should we even turn it on haha.

@Kelzarquence

Ай бұрын

@@coolbvwes1 It's also weird, because the VRR option disappeared for me in the Windows settings (I have Windows 11), but everything seems to be working properly. I can still hit those high frames without any tearing

@mikemoore5270

Ай бұрын

gsync off mans 💯

@coolbvwes1

Ай бұрын

​@@Kelzarquencevrr option disappeared in windows because gsync is off, it only appears when gsync is turned on. I also don't use vrr with this screen. Only in singleplayer games with lower fps.

This doesn't fix the VRR flickering problem at all though. You simply stopped using the variable refresh rate option and locked the monitor to a constant refresh rate. The flickering problems still exist when the refresh rate varies.

I was getting it real bad playing classic wow. I had to turn off Gsync. Good video TY. I also read having diff refresh rates on side monitors causes problems. It's cleared up as far as I know on AW 34 ultimate OLED.

When are you going to review the new Samsung OLED G8 240Hz?

"BuT tHe HuMaN eYe CaN oNlY sEe uP tO 25 fPs"

@George-um2vc

Ай бұрын

Also console players: (upscaling games from below 540p)

To fix my issue on an Msi ultrawide was I used the hdmi 2.1 cable included and never had flickering since. 3080ti/7800x3d

Why even turn turn gsync on if you're capping the frames locked? Tbh on my msi mpg 271QRX and I never noticed screen tearing above 100 fps so why even turn gsync on could someone explain to me?

@BSEUNHIR

Ай бұрын

It's just smoother with adaptive sync plus you will never ever hold an exact frame rate in a game anyways.

@coolbvwes1

Ай бұрын

​@@BSEUNHIR maybe smoother with low fps but above 200 fps you won't notice a thing with vrr off :)

@didney_worl172

Ай бұрын

​@@coolbvwes1 CS2 microstutters like hell even above 200fps without G-Sync.

@PabloB888

Ай бұрын

VRR completely eliminates VSYNC input lag, making low fps games much more responsive and playable. Personally, I notice VSYNC input lag even at 170Hz, so playing with VSYNC on a fixed display is not a good experience for me. Turning off VSYNC is not a good solution either. At 170Hz I dont notice the screen tearing as much, but I can tell when fps and Hz arent synchronized because mouse movement feels different and my aiming is not as precise. On a VRR monitor, you can cap the fps at any number you want without judder, because your monitor refresh rate and frame rate will be perfectly synchronized. VRR is a must for games even if you cap your fps.

I think its always a good idea to cap the FPS anyway I had a game on steam that was using 100% of my GPU I keep an eye on my CPU and GPU usage and temps . I found the game was trying to get 800FPS LOL so I just capped it to 120fps and the GPU usage dropped to 20% ish LOL so for my its good practice

Oleds are pwm displays. The oled pixel cant get too low in brightness so they emulate those low lvls by flickering accordingly. Combine it with vrr and at dark patches of the image you get flickering.

@ArthurM1863

Ай бұрын

False. Not all OLEDs use PWM

@jasonfallel8829

Ай бұрын

@@ArthurM1863 wrong!!! ALL OLEDS use PWM

@thanosaias2717

Ай бұрын

@@ArthurM1863 They do. It's a limitation of the technology. Google it.

@TanteEmmaaa

Ай бұрын

VRR flickering is not caused by PWM. It is caused by fluctuations in fps and therefore the refresh rate of the pixels.

@jasonfallel8829

Ай бұрын

@@TanteEmmaaa yikes... that is something you cannot repair

Are you sure it's not the matte coatings causing the flicker? 🤠

Hello and in today's video I will be teaching you how not to use your gaming monitor at its full potential! No I'm just kidding, but this VRR issue is also apparent with Hisense U8K/U8N (and other models) the only fix is to cap the frame rate below 100 Hertz, it's ridiculous. These Monitors/TVs advertise a high frame rate but you can't achieve it unless you want flickering? Stupid as hell...

XG27AQDMG?

No fps change = no flicker. SO vrr qsync absolutly useless

@PabloB888

Ай бұрын

Not exactly. VRR completely eliminates vsync input lag, making 30 / 40 fps games much more responsive and playable. Also, on a VRR monitor, you can cap fps to any number you like without judder. On a fixed refresh rate TV for example you cant run something like 45fps cap without judder.

On 240hz my eyes dont notice the screen tearing anymore at all, so my decision was easy: I disabled VRR entirely.

@TanteEmmaaa

Ай бұрын

It's really sad to read statements like this.

@PabloB888

Ай бұрын

I notice VSYNC input lag even at 170Hz, so playing with VSYNC on a fixed display is not a good experience for me. Turning off VSYNC is not a good solution either. At 170Hz I dont notice the screen tearing as much, but I can tell when fps and Hz arent synchronized because mouse movement feels different and my aiming is not as precise. On a VRR monitor, you can cap the fps at any number you want without juddering, and your monitor refresh rate and frame rate will be perfectly synchronized. VRR is a must for games and I'm not ready to turn it off.

Just disable Gsync

@DrakonR

Ай бұрын

Didn't work 👍

@Mongeon

Ай бұрын

@@DrakonR interesting , sorry for you

@PabloB888

Ай бұрын

VRR completely eliminates VSYNC input lag, making low fps games much more responsive and playable. Personally, I notice VSYNC input lag even at 170Hz, so playing with VSYNC on a fixed display is not a good experience for me. Turning off VSYNC is not a good solution either. At 170Hz I dont notice the screen tearing as much, but I can tell when fps and Hz arent synchronized because mouse movement feels different and my aiming is not as precise. On a VRR monitor, you can cap the fps at any number you want without judder, and your monitor refresh rate and frame rate will be perfectly synchronized. VRR is a must for games and I'm not willing to turn it off.

I think Alienware AW3423DW does not have this as it has a native Gsync module built in.

@TanteEmmaaa

Ай бұрын

It's nothing a Gsync module can fix. It's the panel technology.

Vrr gsync is completly broken and useless stuff from born. Simple vsync with fixed fps is do all the job

Or just sell your OLED and buy IPS

"How fix vrr flicker" "Disable vrr"

lol VRR flicker.. not fixed FPS flicker

PG32UCDM FTW!

Please. Limiting FPS barely helps. There are very few games that ever manage to consistently hold their frame rates. As such, there will always be an issue when using poor VRR implementations. Albion online for example freezes for just the tiniest fraction of a second when you mouse over a node in the destiny board. Is the stutter noticeable? Not really. Is the Gamma jumping around on my screen noticeable? Yes. So much I turned VRR off. And my screen uses an IPS Panel. Stop being an apologist for lazy display scaler development. VRR isn't new. Consistent gamme should not be impossible.

@PabloB888

Ай бұрын

Interesting, I have never seen VRR flicker on my IPS panel (gigabyte M27QP 1440p 170Hz). I thought it was just an OLED problem.

@jeezuschryst

12 күн бұрын

What is your monitor?

I have vrr turned off on my Alienware 360hz oled. No teasing, no flicker. Don't need it

@thomasboob

Ай бұрын

VRR is kind of overrated at higher fps, its more good when youre dropping from like 90 down to 40 and things

OLED WEAKNESS finally EXPOSED . I knew it was too good to be true

@mobarakjama5570

Ай бұрын

WDYM this isn't new at all.

@thomasboob

Ай бұрын

oleds are obviously garbage now because of this. DUMP! DUMP!