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How to find an APARTMENT in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico | Tips from Expats Living in Puerto Vallarta

Moving comes with it's own set up challenges, but moving to Puerto Vallarta as an American means feeling extremely out of the loop on how to do even some of the most basic things. In this video we will be showing you how to find an apartment in Puerto Vallarta!
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  • @Daisy-tu7cj
    @Daisy-tu7cj4 жыл бұрын

    I so miss Vallarta. I lived in the market and gringo gulch during the 90’s. still my favourite place to visit.

  • @TheSoundofSpeed
    @TheSoundofSpeed4 жыл бұрын

    My wife and I love our place in 5D. Celebrating one year in PV today!

  • @josejpadilla5928
    @josejpadilla59283 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone that actually provides dollar amounts. I've seen other youtubers just rambling on and making reference to living somewhere else in MX but never actually providing an amount.

  • @sebastianlara8023
    @sebastianlara80234 жыл бұрын

    My husband and I we're moving to PV in two weeks and your video was very helpful, thank you

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    4 жыл бұрын

    No problem! Hope you have an easy move :)

  • @HeidiSKulesh
    @HeidiSKulesh4 жыл бұрын

    Very informative for anybody looking to do this. Very nicely done! Continues to be SO good to see you and Martin FINALLY together! Glad I looked on KZread - they have NOT been sending me email notifications lately on several channels I follow lately, including yours, despite being subscribed, and having the bell checked, Has happened to me, on and off, over the years :( Socially distanced hugs to both of you from New Jersey! Stay strong, stay positive, stay healthy!!

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching as always! It's so good to be together again :)

  • @TouristtoLocal
    @TouristtoLocal2 жыл бұрын

    Here’s how you can support us: Buy us a coffee ☕ www.buymeacoffee.com/tourist2local , SUBSCRIBE to help us reach 100k, and join us over on Patreon! www.patreon.com/touristtolocal We are so thankful for you! ❤️

  • @victorramirez1280
    @victorramirez12804 жыл бұрын

    Julianna & Martin, appreciate you both sharing this. Good information about apartment hunting in Puerto Vallarta is hard to find. I like how you talked about the neighborhoods, which ones are good. You've given me some new places to check out. Thank you.

  • @suzieb2968
    @suzieb29683 жыл бұрын

    I love that your map of 5th of Diciembre is marked with via a churro stand lol :D Great suggestions - I only wish I COULD be there looking for an apartment!

  • @BonVoyageCruiseTravel
    @BonVoyageCruiseTravel4 жыл бұрын

    So informative. I know PV will be there for you both! It truly is your happy place. 😍

  • @julianaaraujooo
    @julianaaraujooo4 жыл бұрын

    Love the video! When I visited PV back in January I couchsurfed at "Pitillal" and I loved the area. So glad you guys mentioned it! :)

  • @ReikiontheRun

    @ReikiontheRun

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mmmmm... the atole lady is there!

  • @_.diegojs._
    @_.diegojs._4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your insight. Starting to look for a place in PV to buy/rent as I get closer to retirement(teacher) and my kids are getting to college age and moving out. Looking for a the place to be a second home to go between California and PV. I found your video very very helpful

  • @estatusbestia2264
    @estatusbestia2264 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info. I am moving there in December I have watched many vids on apartment rentals and cost of living. But I have yet to hear someone mention the actual rental qualifications, such as is the custom to ask for a deposit, how much, is there a background or credit check, application fees, what are the requirements and expectations? If you could fill in these blanks I'd greatly appreciated. As a U.S citizen woking for a U.S company does one need special visas or is a tourist visa good enough? Do property owners ask for proof of visas or permits? Kindest Regards Alex

  • @rickswan5117
    @rickswan51174 жыл бұрын

    Great informative video! I plan to move there in 5 years when I retire at 55 :) Thank you.

  • @dennishassler605
    @dennishassler6052 жыл бұрын

    We have a couple of dogs that travel with us if we stay all summer - we get there and have friends help find a place for us. Once we sell our big house here we'll likely stay there year round and find a nice patio for the dogs. Thank you for insight - we liked your suggestions on neighborhood and we know what they all look like, too.

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're living my dream!! While we ended up moving back to the USA to work on Martín's citizenship, our dream is to move back to PV with a couple dogs ;) best of luck to you!

  • @speedfiend925
    @speedfiend9252 жыл бұрын

    Can you post back with the locations you would recommend and approximate prices now per month? Any assistance is much appreciated. THANKS!

  • @NebiyeL1
    @NebiyeL12 жыл бұрын

    Wow. All of the videos i watched about Puerto Vallarta - this is one of the best and thank you for the info.

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @waylinnelson
    @waylinnelson4 жыл бұрын

    Great video with a lot of great information. Can you update us on Greg and Hillary? are they still in PV or back in the states?

  • @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist
    @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist2 жыл бұрын

    Good tips. Thanks!

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @donttouchmycookies5464
    @donttouchmycookies54643 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see an apartment tour or to see a few apartment for rent to get an idea of what you get for your money! Great videos though!

  • @gregmedbourn5347

    @gregmedbourn5347

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree... seeing something would be fantastic.. I’m looking for just a simple 1 bedroom $300 range

  • @pedrotorres4360
    @pedrotorres4360 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your information good tips a want to move next year thanks

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Best of luck!

  • @buenavidaestates-livingthe6333
    @buenavidaestates-livingthe63332 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks! ;)

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @MrRbarr
    @MrRbarr3 жыл бұрын

    i used to live in PV as a kid and i still visit yearly now but i won't go during the summer it is waaaaayyyy to humid and hot and i loved your video

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    3 жыл бұрын

    The summer is...quite the experience. Martin and I are so boring in the summer. We just stay in the air conditioning all day!

  • @PhoenixMoth
    @PhoenixMoth Жыл бұрын

    I was supposed to be going to there!

  • @TheFearlessBeauty
    @TheFearlessBeauty4 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!!

  • @mobeesadventures2553
    @mobeesadventures25533 жыл бұрын

    Great video-very informative! Would you have any tips on finding wheelchair accessible condo rentals?

  • @anodyne57
    @anodyne572 ай бұрын

    Great recommendations. You got a subscriber.

  • @TouristtoLocal
    @TouristtoLocal4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! When do you plan to move to Puerto Vallarta?

  • @jorgedehoyoslopez769

    @jorgedehoyoslopez769

    4 жыл бұрын

    on march 😄

  • @aamaro5719

    @aamaro5719

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I retire. Hopefully sooner though.

  • @thatocgirl9349

    @thatocgirl9349

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've been considering moving back for a while now...I didn't realize how expensive my ideal neighborhood is (Olas Altas). It's basically California prices! Might have to consider going back to Versalles, that is, if we do decide to move back!

  • @Becky_Cal

    @Becky_Cal

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m hoping to move in the next year! Thanks so much 🙏🏼 for your videos and providing this crucial information to anyone who is considering the move.

  • @renemanzini9744

    @renemanzini9744

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m thinking of moving to PV or further south to Cuastecomates near San Patricio. However, Puerto Vallarta is my first choice since I’m familiar and my Ex lives there as well. Cuastecomates is right on the bay and is much quieter with just 5 minutes to San Patricio and 3 hours north to PV. I’m really leaning on making the move.

  • @OohlalaHolly
    @OohlalaHolly2 жыл бұрын

    This is so helpful! Thank you!!

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @Opinions.aremine
    @Opinions.aremine4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for covering this !

  • @debraparker161
    @debraparker1612 жыл бұрын

    Lots of useful information, thanks! Subscribed

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Debra! We appreciate that!

  • @Studio-yv7px
    @Studio-yv7px2 жыл бұрын

    i am in el remance.... its not scary at all... and very safe

  • @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist
    @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist2 жыл бұрын

    I would love to go back to Mexico to live, but not until the mask-mandate is gone. You have to wear a mask everywhere in Mexico… outdoors, while walking alone, at the beach, in stores. And yet, in the US it has been lifted completely. No masks required anywhere except in medical settings: hospitals, clinics and in a doctor’s office. I hope Mexico decides to do the same.

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    When we visited PV recently, it was only required in transportation!

  • @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist

    @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TouristtoLocal - So walking around in public and entering restaurants is ok without a mask?

  • @chimdi
    @chimdi3 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful, thank you!!

  • @anonymousonez
    @anonymousonez2 жыл бұрын

    Great videos. Thanks for sharing. I wish you would use either a shotgun mic or record and sync audio from a clip on mic. Would make these much more professional. Thanks again!

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    We used a shotgun mic, but it was failing. We've since upgraded our equipment. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @berley1083
    @berley10832 жыл бұрын

    i’m in december 5 i would agree with her except it’s not quiet between the barking dogs and crowing roosters 24/7 it’s a bit of adjustment - who knew roosters crow all day long hee hee 😜

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    TRUE! Very very very loud indeed

  • @AmmoDude
    @AmmoDude Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I thinking of moving to the area from Florida. I'm fully retired and want a quieter lifestyle. Do you have any experience or information on the Nuevo Nayarit area? Thanks for your very informative videos.

  • @MM-my3pc
    @MM-my3pc3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Julianna - my name is Martine too!! I want to live in puerto Vallarta as a single woman. I appreciate your insight - I am looking for something safe and a sense a neighbourhood. Do you see a lot of single people

  • @RA-fm8wr
    @RA-fm8wr4 жыл бұрын

    Been to the Agua Azul or Buenos Aries neighborhoods?

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have not actually! I'll have to explore there!

  • @keithwynkoop9588
    @keithwynkoop95883 жыл бұрын

    Keen insight Tourist. Wow!

  • @robertlwardill4967
    @robertlwardill49673 жыл бұрын

    Helpful vid, thanks :-)

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @zipkeen8339
    @zipkeen8339 Жыл бұрын

    we would like to spend a month and a half in Pittilla this coming winter could you recommend a place preferably with a safe semi quiet etc

  • @andreavanda4722
    @andreavanda47223 жыл бұрын

    Good info. Thanks! 🙂

  • @petrat6548
    @petrat65482 жыл бұрын

    What's that place you mentioned where the locals live further from the beach? I didn't get the name of it

  • @laurairisbernardino4864
    @laurairisbernardino48644 жыл бұрын

    I love this city 😍😍😍😍😍😍"

  • @waltermorris5786
    @waltermorris57862 жыл бұрын

    I need to know where the fastest internet is located since I will be trading crude oil

  • @stanivanov70s
    @stanivanov70s3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a very informative video. I'll be in PV in 3 weeks. Would love to meet up with you guys and get a deeper perspective on living there. How can we connect?

  • @quetzalcoatul1
    @quetzalcoatul13 жыл бұрын

    WHAT AREAS TO AVOID

  • @fja5085
    @fja50854 жыл бұрын

    What's the beach situation in PV at this current moment??

  • @VallartaLovers

    @VallartaLovers

    3 жыл бұрын

    The beaches are open

  • @Keepitmovin72
    @Keepitmovin722 жыл бұрын

    Hey what about purchasing land or buying an already built Casita?

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    We aren't sure about that, but we hope to learn more about that process in the next few years ;)

  • @carolynwilliams4481
    @carolynwilliams44813 жыл бұрын

    Thank you that was great information, I’m gonna join your group you don’t mind

  • @mctravels2817
    @mctravels28172 жыл бұрын

    How difficult is it to find an apartment for a short-term rental, say 1-3 months? Thanks.

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not too difficult to find, but of course the price may be a little higher!

  • @lupitacajero7185
    @lupitacajero71853 жыл бұрын

    How safe is Puerto Vallarta for elderly women?

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's very safe, but the one thing I do want to point out is that the sidewalks aren't great. If you are in a wheelchair, there are many areas where it would be difficult.,

  • @lupitacajero7185

    @lupitacajero7185

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TouristtoLocal Yes; mom is in a wheelchair; I will have to avoid those sidewalks.

  • @lupitacajero7185

    @lupitacajero7185

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TouristtoLocal Thank you for the info. I really appreciate it.

  • @laurairisbernardino4864
    @laurairisbernardino48644 жыл бұрын

    Exelet vidio this is the Best city in the world"

  • @philiphitchcock4909
    @philiphitchcock49092 жыл бұрын

    Great video, but every time you mentioned a location, the map comes up without a locator of where you are actually talking about. A little frustrating, especially when you don't know how to spell what location you are saying. Looking all around on paused video and still can't find it....

  • @eurekamarijka
    @eurekamarijka2 жыл бұрын

    ⚠️ ERROR - link to your ebook on kindle doesn’t work FYI

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! We ended up moving this to our merch store only, and this is the new link: teespring.com/pv-like-a-local

  • @charlesgoldstein4508
    @charlesgoldstein45082 жыл бұрын

    Are you available for private consultation regarding your topics?

  • @fyisaharayoutube1695
    @fyisaharayoutube16953 жыл бұрын

    can you give a Ball Park numbers on monthly rentala???

  • @johndobbins260
    @johndobbins2609 ай бұрын

    I would like to talk to you off this public vehicle please. How can we talk Ma'am?

  • @aamaro5719
    @aamaro57194 жыл бұрын

    Hi Juliana, thanks for this video!! What is ex-pats? You keep mentioning it but I’m trying to figure out what that is.

  • @Pirulo3

    @Pirulo3

    4 жыл бұрын

    A Amaro ::: “expats” is a contraction of “expatriate,” a person living outside of his or her native country.

  • @aamaro5719

    @aamaro5719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pirulo3 oh Ok Immigrant then.

  • @aamaro5719

    @aamaro5719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pirulo3 not sure why Americans get to use a fancy word. 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @Pirulo3

    @Pirulo3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aamaro5719 ::: it’s not the Americans, it is the English language and it’s long history. It’s the lingua franca, the universal language of the world, as once Latin and Greek were. Maybe Mandarin will become it one day. The English language currently has the largest vocabulary -over a million words- and this is thanks to the contribution of many other languages, primarily Romance and Germanic ones. In this case, it’s not an effort to be fancy, much less with an informal noun as “expatriate” or it’s shortened version, “ex-pat,” it is in an effort to be efficient.

  • @anodyne57

    @anodyne57

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aamaro5719 Not necessarily. Expats are more immigrants of choice, enabled often by having the resources/means to do. "Immigrants" very often have made that choice out of necessity of circumstance. Of course there is, or can be, overlap between the two.

  • @francoaletto192
    @francoaletto1923 жыл бұрын

    You need to speak a little slow I feel like I’m running a marathon trying to listen to you

  • @angeleyes6395
    @angeleyes63954 жыл бұрын

    *Tourist to Local* Hey look ! I'm from year 2069 and I love this channel

  • @chop3625
    @chop36252 жыл бұрын

    Been there and yes I enjoyed it, 2 weeks. Live there?? Not so sure about that.

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Coming for vacation is also a great option!

  • @anodyne57

    @anodyne57

    2 ай бұрын

    Bravo. Always assert your right to make your own choices based on personal preferences. And accept that others' preferences may differ greatly from yours, without them being more or less valid than your own.

  • @barbaralopes970
    @barbaralopes9703 жыл бұрын

    Great advice but slow down talking quickly have to go over the video many times. ❤🍷

  • @lucascastro6099
    @lucascastro60993 жыл бұрын

    you didn't how much you pay a month

  • @gumshew2007
    @gumshew20074 жыл бұрын

    While travelling the world fore many years are you able to save for retirement? Do you guys have a 401k plan and a IRA? Time is on your side when it comes to saving for retirement, and the sooner the better.

  • @Cuernavacachica02
    @Cuernavacachica022 жыл бұрын

    If you live cheaper you won’t destroy the economy for the locals. It’s sad that the locals themselves have to go so far out.

  • @gregmedbourn5347
    @gregmedbourn53473 жыл бұрын

    I’m 57 years old single and could it be possible to find a 1 bedroom apartment in the $300-350 range including air conditioning) in a nice location (maybe a 6 month rental) I don’t have a car and would like to be close to (activity -town) I don’t care about being close to the beach.. Thank you

  • @KeltoiMagus
    @KeltoiMagus2 жыл бұрын

    We usually call those little pieces of paper from your landlords a receipt.

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    😆

  • @lordshiva9359
    @lordshiva93592 жыл бұрын

    You look like Sylvester Stallone's daughter

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Woah!!!

  • @themrjim1953
    @themrjim19533 жыл бұрын

    you mention neighborhoods, then show a map and its not there lol

  • @cesarruiz4340
    @cesarruiz43402 жыл бұрын

    Good info... girl you love to talk ... I LIKE TO SEE VIEWS, PLEASE!

  • @avajackson26
    @avajackson263 жыл бұрын

    She talks to fast and she's talking about air b and b places I thought she was talking about apartment rentals only not a good blogger

  • @rance1417
    @rance14174 жыл бұрын

    This is just a gut feeling, but there's something very suspect about this video. I have lived here 5 years, and there's not necessarily anything that I specifically disagree with... You definitely have some of your facts wrong..but not deal breakers... something's not right...just a gut feeling....and you're living in an Airbnb after 2 years... sounds a little fishy to me....some ulterior motive. If I'm wrong, I apologize

  • @TouristtoLocal

    @TouristtoLocal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh rick, if only you knew how complicated our situation is. I made a few videos about this already, but we had moved out of PV in February after renting an apartment for a year. Martín is working on his greencard for the USA, and was supposed to have his interview for his visa in ciudad Juárez. I went back to the USA in the meantime. Then, COVID hit. Our plans changed dramatically and we actually got stuck apart for 3 months. Martín was at his hometown in Mexico and I was in California with all our stuff. The visa likely won’t come until 2021 now, so we decided to move back to Puerto Vallarta. However, since we don’t know when the visa appointment will happen, we can’t commit to a contract like we used to with an apartment. I wish we could, trust me. Renting on a month to month basis is just better for us right now. Actually, this whole COVID situation has changed my mindset completely, and I’d actually love to live in PV permanently. When we do move to the USA to pursue citizenship, we are going to work our butts off to save money for a house here. I encourage you to not judge someone based off a short few minute look into their life. You never know what someone is going through.

  • @rance1417

    @rance1417

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TouristtoLocal perhaps somewhat judgmental, but I also knew that there was something wrong with the story. My instincts were definitely correct. Good luck to you and Martín.. and I would tell you to be honest with your motives

  • @AbrahamGonzalez-wd7vt

    @AbrahamGonzalez-wd7vt

    4 жыл бұрын

    But feeling.... 😒

  • @catevalcic8684

    @catevalcic8684

    3 жыл бұрын

    What motives could they have? What a bizarre comment. I lived in an Airbnb in Old Town for two years before buying a condo here. It is no different than renting, just Airbnb holds the lease. My gut feeling tells me something is fishy with your comment.

  • @MHdollrevievs

    @MHdollrevievs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TouristtoLocal 90 month fiancé LOL You like older guys(Sugar dady).Plans never workout like you think they will.If Trump gets back in good luck getting a green card.Before 9/11 I had to get a border card for the US That took over a year to get.