I can’t tell you how helpful it was to see the process in real time. That is something seriously lacking in most videos on the Zettelkasten. Thank you!

That second part of that note-sentance at 4214/-1/3/1 @14:15-30. Yes!

2:54 ---- dude - paying for translations of German texts to help bring antinet to the masses. That is such a boss move! Mad respect!

@artofworkflow

2 жыл бұрын

Also helps explain how you are making such headway in articulating and teaching antinet 👍 Really demonstrates how genuine and earnest you are in this work.

awesome stuff thank you both for your time. it would be fun to see "the card that started it all" and how it branched/stemmed off. cheers

I’m just getting familiar with all this and my friend referred me to you. This was really helpful seeing how you actually use it.

Finally subscribing after bingewatch your video

Wonderful video again :D Really enjoyed watching!

Great video, and videography ;) , this is REALLY helpful as I plough through many boxes of notes, turning them into a Zettelkasten.

Thanks for an interesting video.

This is great - thanks for another helpful video. As you explain well, the benefits of searching, rediscovering and assimilating analog notes are truly incredible yet also increadibly counter-intuative before one experiences them. Suggestion for another video: Indexing!

New sub, thank you buddy.

Great video. All your hard work will pay off. The work you are doing is important. Would it be possible to further elaborate on the index, ex: when to use a key-term, how many key terms and how to avoid an infinite amount of key-term entries. Does every main note need a key-term index entry?

Hi Scott, that's very helpful. Where did get your boxes? and what is the dimension?

Thanks for doing this, that was really helpful as an example. I had a similar experience adding a couple of notes (grouped together). I enjoyed the process of associative review and also was kicking myself for not filing things right. But this helped me see that it’s just part of the process.

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

If you don’t file right that’s fine. It will create valuable accidents later.

@josephkauslick5034

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper thanks, that’s a helpful reframe. I also added links to the other spots so i can bump into it there.

thank you for this brilliant video that confirms my intuition that a digital version would comprimise on exactly the most important part, besides I wanted to go analog anyways becase I MISS the days I used to spend in the library going through the indexes and eventually having a sort of mind map of the whole library, it felt really nice, so I can only imagine how satisfying this will be ! ANYWHO ! could you ever be so kind and lovely as to tell me/us WHERE did you get the cases for the cards themselves ?!? as silly as it sounds, I've been scouring the internet for 2 whole days and I simply can't find anything suitable and when I do, it's just not in A6 format and it drives me mental ! so could you give my autistic brain a rest and end this misery of looking for boxes to put the cards in ? haha I know this literally defeats the very point you were making about having to suffer for the knowledge obtained, but I think I've suffered enough hahaha

I would be curious to see how you determine where to file a note when there are multiple places a note could go, and then how you link the note to the other spots and indexing the note. This is something I’ve had difficulty with the last few weeks.

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

Create a “See also [link]” to the bottom of related cards (like: See also ‘5242/11C’). Or you can create an entire card with a set of collective references behind the related card(s). Like: See also: ‘5242/11C’, ‘4214/1A’, etc. that way you add more to the collection over time.

@shelleyworthington48

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper And then where to the collective reference cards go? In the main box or the index?

Hi Scott, I'm going back through these videos and wonder if you could help me by explaining how you would have worked through this if you had used two cards to capture the idea? That is when you wrote your reflection/reformulation note you needed two cards... fast forward to finding that you wanted to connect it to 4214/-1/1A/1G would it become 4214/-1/1A/1G/1-1 and 4214/-1/1A/1G/1-2?

Really good videos. I’ve started reading your how to get started PDF and tried out your examples. I’ve read here (Niklas Luhmann’s Card Index: Thinking Tool, Communication Partner, Publication Machine) that NL only had 120 or so categories and a several sub categories. How do we know when to start a section. He warns against confinement vs openness

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

In his first zk he had 108 I believe and second one was like 21 off the top of my head. The beauty with the structure I write about in the how to get started guide is that it’s all encompassing. The top-level categories are only a rough starting point. They’re not all-encompassing. It’s not like the Dewie Decimal System. It’s just a rough net you cast. This helps compared with complete randomness. Though that works too. Uodate: it was 11 top level sections in his second

@GeorgeFoxRules

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper Keep writing that book! Can’t wait to buy it :-)

Hello Scott, thx for this interesting Video. But there was something I don't agree with: In 2007 it became known that Luhmann had become a member of the NSDAP in 1944. The significance of the membership file is disputed by historians insofar as admission to the party could also have taken place within the framework of the collective registration of HJ cohorts 1926/27 initiated by the party leadership in 1944/45. On the "Questionnaire for Political Verification" to be filled out for the legal clerkship in 1949, which was part of the denazification, Luhmann dated the NSDAP application for membership to the spring of 1944, supplemented by the note that he had never received a membership number.(Wikipedia) Considering that Luhmann was born in 1927, he was just 17 years old in 1944. He lived in a dictatorship and it was war. At that time there were few possibilities to escape from this system. It also sounds unhistorical to me to talk about him fighting in the "Nazi army". The German Reich had about 9.4 million soldiers under arms in 1944 alone. They were not all Nazis. My father, for example, was born in 1920. He had to go to war as early as 1940. He was, like most people completely apolitical and after the war a social democrat. I think that what you interpret into Luhmann's Nazi past in view of the sophisticated nature of his texts is greatly overstated. In my opinion, this is much more due to the complexity of his research subject: "theory of society". Besides, he was a lawyer and precise formulations are his DNA, so to speak. However, I explicitly agree with you that in the seventies the academic climate in Germany was increasingly shaped by the so-called 68ers. These people already tried at that time to conquer the interpretative sovereignty over German history and language and started to introduce a "cancel culture", which strongly influences the political culture in Germany until today. Luhmann was strongly criticized by the leftists (68ers) and his opponent, Jürgen Habermas: While HABERMAS accuses his competitor of encouraging an uncritical confirmation of the existing social relations by the system-theoretical determination of social action, LUHMANN criticizes the idealistic insinuations in the theory of communicative action advocated by HABERMAS. So much for my view of Luhmann's story. Even if I differ from your opinion here, I find your work with ANTINET very interesting and admirable. However, I myself am an Obsidian user and prefer the computer to analog capture of texts. I can see, however, that there are disadvantages to in-depth learning with it compared to analog. Best regards from Germany and continued success and enthusiasm in installing texts in the slip box. Uli Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the very informative perspective Uli! I think we believe the same things regarding the 68’ers I wasn’t able to elaborate on that fully in the video. Luhmann was a conscripted child assistant for the nazi air force. He was essentially a child slave laborer for the Nazis. His unique perspective I think is shaped from the torture and beatings he received at the hands of American Soldiers. He thought these were “the good guys” there to rescue him. That’s my take. Thanks for the kind words and hang around! Cheers. 🇩🇪 🍻

@chim-choo-ree

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper I have a question. If you wanted to reference later on this particular comment of Uli's (or, any sort of fleeting comment you'd find around the web), how would you go about doing that. You wouldn't simply want to create a note linking to this KZread comment section, in the event that Uli might delete the comment. You would want to preserve it somewhere. Is this somehow a use for Zotero? How would you deal with that?

Great video!! I would love to know the reference on using associative ideas to cure depression (18:51)

@scottscheper

8 ай бұрын

It's in the book within the Chapter called Index

I have rather detailed question because I am trying to really grasp the mechanics of card numbering. It think I'm starting to get this, but I want to check my understanding. Thanks for your patience. By 17:30 you have found the place where you want to insert your new card, namely right after card 4214/-1/1A/1G. You mention that you have two options for naming the next card: 4214/-1/1A/1H vs. 4214/-1/1A/1G/1. You make it clear that the option you chose, the /1 choice, was appropriate because the new card gives further development of the idea expressed in 4214/-1/1A/1G, so therefore you are "Branching Down or Stemming Down the thought". Here's my question: If your new card was more appropriately named 4214/-1/1A/1H, how would you call that? Would you say you were "Branching Across? or Stemming Across?" i.e. How would you describe adding a bother node rather than a child node? Next question: if soon you have a card that is logically a brother node to the card you just added, would you name it 4214/-1/1A/1G/1A? Thanks.

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

Great question, I call the letters “Variations” I.e. say there’s 4214/-1/1A/1 4214/-1/1A/1G is a Variation, and so would be 4214/-1/1A/1H. They are both a variation of the thought 4214/-1/1A/1. However I haven’t always been perfect. Especially in the beginning. That’s just a general guideline I ascribe to. Think of the letters as Variations of the original Thought. The ultimate goal is to place the card nearest its most similar/related/closest idea that it relates to.

Another great video!!! I’m just starting my ZK. I’m curious. Your ZK is super large. How many years in the making is it?

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

I started making notecards in 2006. But only ported over to antinet ZK convention a year ago. Yours will get here sooner than you think. Keep going. No shortcuts. It is worth it.

@NickRuiz

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper sounds great. Can I pay you a consulting fee for an hour zoom call to make sure I’m starting mine the right way? I plan on doing this for the rest of my life w all of my reading. I feel like I didn’t get full clarity from the book “ take smart notes” and I want to make sure I’m doing it exactly right without over complicating it.

@NickRuiz

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper and I also feel like you’re the only person on KZread who is doing it where it makes complete sense to me. Everyone else is so vague about the actual process

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

@@NickRuiz sure thing. And this goes for anyone else reading this. Email me here: scott@greenlamp.com

Where can I buy decent boxes??

Thank you for your videos!. Question: how are the cards numbered …. e.g. 4224. ?

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

scottscheper.com/letter/1/

How do you decide which number to assign to individual subjects? I'm starting my own in Obsidian for now as I don't have enough room in my current place for a physical system, but not too sure how to number my various top level categories!

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

Check out my quick rough guide. The book will be more comprehensive but this is enough to start: drive.google.com/file/d/1yK3zempcdW8Oc2zuBbmNk1yV71iREwhI/view?usp=sharing

@toranshaw4029

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper saved to read later, ta! 👍

The communication aspect really comes through when you talked about associative ideas and depression. Your partner reacted in some way and so the comment/idea became more socially interactive. I think this is something that can happen withe the ZK. I think it’s important to include ideas that are shared (i.e. written and published) in that communication cycle in a way that the responses of others can also get included in the ZK. I think this would help ZK’s not become a diadic echo. This may help prevent accidental confirmation bias in the ZK and may make the writing output clearer. (I’ve seen Luhmann’s awful writing as a criticism of the ZK as a tool-his playing politics with writing style answers that a bit, but the note you filed in the video could be taken as Luhmann justifying his abstruse prose. Perhaps if he responded more to the criticisms of others directly, that might have helped some.)

@MrDarren690

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually what visakanv has done on Twitter. He has essentially a social, public Zettelkasten that people are invited to riff off of--well, according to good reply game--and he's constantly exposed to new perspectives and new resurfacings of his older ideas, which then fuel new discussions and threads.

How to check if a note/thought is irreducible?

Can you make an Analog Zettelkasten with A4 pages? I usually like to make drawings and diagrams of my ideas and I feel this small notes are a bit constricting.

@scottscheper

9 ай бұрын

Definitely

If there were a way to get one's hands on the English translation of Short Cuts, how would one go about doing it? 😉

There are hundreds of videos that speak to the how to create a zettelkkasten but I just need to see the actual process of reducing a literature notes into a singular idea in one’s own words…like actually see the words not the broad explanation of the process. I need to see the actual words of the literature note and the words that ultimately went on the permanent note.

@tonybrown5310

2 жыл бұрын

I am trying to get a grip on what an atomic note/singular idea looks like. Also, why wouldn’t we use quotes if we are planning on using the author as a reference source in our writing?

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

I made this video yesterday specifically with your question in mind: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5qBsNmuo7Kcls4.html Hope it helps!

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonybrown5310 sometimes Reformulating the quote flows better for the reader and also helps you understand the concept better. Luhmann was against excerpts yet he did write them down. I like excerpts honestly. Yet I try and not write out whole paragraphs. Maybe 1-2 sentence excerpts. Otherwise I Reformulate in my own wording.

@tonybrown5310

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottscheper Awesome! I really appreciate you! You don’t know how much this helps!

Scott, this is a great video! Exactly what I was looking for so thanks for reading the comments. :-) I have two questions: 1) When do you add items into the index so you can find them later? Is this typically on newer concepts where no previously written cards match a note on a newly written card? 2) Where did you purchase the book, "Forgetting Machines: Knowledge Management Evolution in Early Modern Europe?" Or, perhaps you borrowed it from the library? Amazon has it for sale but it's $175! I know it's an academic like textbook and they can be expensive but LMK if you know of a more inexpensive place to get one. Thanks!

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! 1. Yeah typically on newer concepts. 2. Amazon. I bit the bullet.

@josephkauslick5034

2 жыл бұрын

A video on indexing would be useful!

Noticed some of your notes are printed and cut out. I'm assuming you used some sort of word template with four A6 card sizes. I did something similar. Curious why you seemed to have ditched it and went with hand written? I use a setup which looks something like this: handwritten fleeting note > typed out permanent note > printed (and cut out) and filed. I agree the physical note has tons of advantages when working through over digital, and mindless search, however, when going to put them together, having the digital version makes stitching together to edit worth any extra effort. My 2 cents, curious as to yours.

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I tested out a few printed cards from my daily blog when I was doing that (daily.scottscheper.com). It wasn’t that beneficial so it was a quick test. I also tried a typewriter which was interesting too! And I tried a template where the left side is the Main Note, and the right side is me making the case for the opposite (inversion). That was *very* interesting.

What if your place is on fire and you lose all of your notes!!!!

@scottscheper

2 жыл бұрын

Physicallyc Fireproof and waterproof cabinets. Metaphysically, it doesn’t matter. The knowledge is better stamped in your brain via neuroimprinting by hand.