And drain it off all over the floor 😂

@stevehirst536

Жыл бұрын

Was going to say exactly the same 😂

@janice6173

Жыл бұрын

Most gasman don't care . Esp the installer of mine, British Gas trained engineer. Kept telling me. Made right mess. Boiler never been right nor the thermostat n he took tiles off roof not sure if water tight but there's lot of draught n leaves coming down.

Monoblock tap spanner, one of the extension fit in there . Use to always carry one just for this situation, thank me later

I’ve been trying to get my Ho’s for a week but they ain’t answer their phones……🤨

You'd really wanna turn that after 5-10 years wouldn't you

@muzdogbarbados5492

Жыл бұрын

you got that right mate

@ChristianBHough

Жыл бұрын

New to heating so don't bite... But if the boiler gets serviced every year, you drop the pressure to check the expansion vessel, surely it shouldn't become a problem. Assuming the boiler develops a fault twice every year that requires draining from there over a lifespan of let's say 10 years, you only need to open that 30 times. Surely it should last at least that long? I don't mind being educated and corrected.

@kendevanny4078

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristianBHough Most boilers you will go to my mate, will not have any servicing and these crappy parts always bite you on the arse.

@user.--.

Жыл бұрын

​@@kendevanny4078 mine does, every year

@gow03333

Жыл бұрын

👍beat me to it

Or use disconnect integrated fill loop off of ch return and drain through that more control and drains quicker 👍🏼

Mono block socket fits

Got an ideal logic. Works a treat.

I'm now using the drain point as one of many flue sampling points Ideal have designed throughout their boiler range 😂.

Or get a box spanner, which will have a cross hole, in case you need more leverage to undo the fitting.

The people on here saying 10 years out of a boiler is good. The one in my house was installed 1985 👍

@davefarmery8180

Жыл бұрын

And is not as efficient as a new one

@earlestes8649

Жыл бұрын

@@davefarmery8180 maybe but if it’s maintained properly idk,

@janice6173

Жыл бұрын

They were made to last. The ones after were pile of crud. In my experience.

@Danfrank24

7 ай бұрын

@@davefarmery8180you keep on lapping up lies. They may be less efficient as in the don’t burn as much of the gas they are given but a 14kw heat only boiler uses a lot less gas that a new combi. Especially when you’ve got idiots installing 38kw in 2 bed semis so they get “good” hot water.

Hi ya.. looks like that blackdrain spout has a slot on the end for an oversize flatblade screwdriver...?

still leaking

Basin spanner set does the trick

Been wondering what they are, They are my grips. 😂

What do you turn off first tho?

Very helpful. Thank you

@AllenHart999

8 ай бұрын

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5 ай бұрын

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If return valve is closed and cold water inlet closed, undo the cold side of the integrated filling loop, put a small piece of drain down hose (the larger one) and then open the return, much easier to drain than clarting on trying to open that drain off, easy when there’s space but if your limited for space just crack the filling loop

@UAVWRIGHT

6 ай бұрын

Do those valves need to be closed or can I just unscrew and ain

@magdalenenjoki9679

6 ай бұрын

K4iokekynaphh name gb❤❤❤❤❤❤

Imagine designing an appliance that you fill with water and then fit it with a barely functional drain point. Designed by muppets and installed by muppets

@ollieneate7928

Жыл бұрын

😆 well said

Swear that went everywhere but….😂

@AllenHart999

5 ай бұрын

ha ha, it did.

Nice clear n good rate too. Most info on these is like flipping Road runner or is USA I won't be attempting it but good to know.

Just drain it down through the filling loop😜

@kendevanny4078

Жыл бұрын

Most people put the FL back to front, with the check valve on the return and fcuks this meth up.

@petermckiernan5822

Жыл бұрын

Not with a double check valve on the loop you won't.

@HughieMunro

Жыл бұрын

@@petermckiernan5822 double check goes on the cold water side 🤦‍♂️ You have no idea how many people still put them the wrong way round…. I’m guessing your one of them 😜😜😜 So yes, you can drain through filling loop if fitted CORRECTLY

@petermckiernan5822

Жыл бұрын

@@HughieMunro not so mate, I fit two, one on the cold main and one on the heating return, stops twats disconnecting the loop and accidentally draining 60° water into their face.

@sbe-bikes3912

7 ай бұрын

Every time even on the integral loops can drain down 👍🏼

Omg that’s fascinating 🥸

Open the filling loop point it into the bucket or sink and done

Pissing out over floor lad 😂

@mcbreartyfull

5 ай бұрын

Happens the best of us 🙏

That's a good tip. I'm not sure why there are so many negative comments?

What size is the nut on the plastic drain off?

Quite like the logic

Is there anything else you need to do once drained?

Any idea what will fix a L1 code thanks

When did Phil Mitchell become a plumber

Would a long socket fit over it to loosen it?

I need to get my course done

Why is your video back to front Allen? I noticed the filling loop on left and wondered WTF?

Why is there compression on the pressure relief pipe. And this is a loaded question

Designed to fail = more money to be made on servicing or replacement. Once you get mineral deposits on that drain all bets are off. More so because it’s plastic.

Could turn it with a socket too. I like outside of the box ideas though myself.

@brians8664

Жыл бұрын

plumbers don’t carry sockets or box end wrenches. Why? No company makes ones that are special enough to cost 50x what they should cost 😂

box spanner set ?

Am I missing something? Why not a box spanner?

Ideal, to change it to a better boiler!!

Standard garden hose fits over the hex part and grips it enough to turn open, I know I've worked on hundreds of Logics 😎

@Chronologist89

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that looks like a self-blocking gardena adapter, was thinking the same.

@jimbevan4107

Жыл бұрын

Are they good boilers?

Crap access then leaks everywhere. How about input at design stage from heating engineers?

I need a piss now

Looks like that tap could use some sealing tape.

Yeah they are shite, I fit loads of Ideal Logics but those drain offs piss out.

@andyparky2716

Жыл бұрын

I like ideal for the money put one in my own house actually

And why then you have to refill the boiler again

ideal would be great to design a tool for it , it could get lost along with the handles for those mag filters

@kendevanny4078

Жыл бұрын

And the fill keys for Worcesters

A box spanner is built for the job

@AllenHart999

8 ай бұрын

Thank You

It’s a pity that Ideal, and many other manufacturers fail to provide a good design tap for draining the boiler. Or in a location that is easy to get to. If they want to make sure that it’s not mistaken for anything else by the end user then keep the actual tap inside the boiler. I use 1/4 drive long sockets for the small nuts and bolts, but the chamfer lead on them stops any engagement onto this hexagon. If it needs a special tool then it should be given away with the product.

@earlestes8649

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like the drain and flush kit that includes the pop off valve. I don’t know how many I’ve went and installed them a year or two after they were originally installed. It’s nuts!!

Is this to drain down the central heating so I can reroute some pipes and add a rad? Thanks

@AllenHart999

8 ай бұрын

Thank You

Love ideals to service soooo easy but thst drain off is a bastard

Danm when they said gas workers can go to a job in a white shirt and leave clean I thought they were joking

Personally I just use a big flat head screwdriver or chisel and put it in the slot that’s there instead of the messing about with copper 😂

Could you not just attach the hose to the other end of the copper pipe and then you only ever need to turn it easily

Nice and easy as it piss's all over his arm 😂

It’s pissing out round the hose Allen. Not a great drain off

Get you hooes

That has to be connected always ,that's the pressure overflow

@TprDjd21

Жыл бұрын

No it isn’t

Anybody saw that theres a slot for a flat head screwdriver

Noyce

why not just add a bit of reducing pipe to a bit of plex to attach the drain pipe all in one, that way you can keep it all in the kit bag

Or ye get ye mono spanner 😂

Great boilers to work on but by far the worst drain off awkward positioning and no matter what you do it always leaks over the hose 🖕🏻

Love the copper not a big fan of the pro press

Hey Allen what is the best pressfit to buy? And where you get the best deal

@s.wilson5675

Жыл бұрын

Hello mate, (I'm not Allen).... I used the Conex brand (copper, not plastic) from Toolstation and been on my CH system 2 years with no problems. Toolstation also sell Pegler, a good brand apparently. The MOST important part of using push fit is pipe preparation. Spend extra time to cut pipe square, deburr, clean in and out. Good luck.

@FriendlyFireBrigade

Жыл бұрын

@@s.wilson5675he asked for PRESS fit, not push fit.

@s.wilson5675

Жыл бұрын

@@FriendlyFireBrigade Oops. My bad. Thanks for correcting.

I suppose a pipe wrench is also an option

@frianklippelaar7331

5 ай бұрын

My bad. In dutch its called a pipe wrench. An english pipe wrench is something else. Box spanner is the correct translation😂🤦‍♂️

This 'plumber' has lots of videos which make you wonder if he is a prankster. Water is running down the ouside of his hose!

All boilers have drain and turn by tap don't know why this is like this

Oh no not mapress right by the boiler connections 😅😅😅

Use orange pipe

Just use a flat head

@AllenHart999

8 ай бұрын

Thank You

Or just drain it through the filling loop 😅

I've got a tip for you... But some nail clippers

@AllenHart999

Жыл бұрын

I have a tip, if you are going to be rude at least spell it correctly 😂

Never seen no pro press fittings like that

The problem allan is the water which came out of your pipe outer diameter

@AllenHart999

8 ай бұрын

Thank You

There was nothing easy about that 😂😂 Bad design plastic junk

@fredthesavannahcat2899

Жыл бұрын

It is a bad design

Or buy a deep socket for you're toolkit

Just use the prv...

Get your tools and get out of my house 😂😂 just kidding

Yea good idea water going everywhere lol

I'll stick to using PRV 🤣😂

Take it you don’t have a set of tap spanners

Don’t work on ideal usually chuck em on the grass

Is it true these combi boilers are only good for a 1 to 2 bedroom house?

@AllenHart999

8 ай бұрын

did you watch this one? interested to hear your thoughts? Thanks. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rHV-stGveNvaiNY.html

An get charged a squillian pound for doing it

that rule forcing the flexible hose is so dumb

And it's such a poor design the water runs down the outside of the hose and all over the floor...

Yea and pissing out down the outside of his pipe.....

That drain off is one of the worst bits about the logic. Along with the stupid bracket that holds the vessel in that’s a pig to line up. I was really surprised to see that terrible drain off design has been carried over to the new logic. Do any of these manufacturers ever actually speak to service and repair guys? Ok they’ve at least sorted out the poor condensate trap this time around. But leaving that drain off? Really?

Forget that drain-off it will ruin your Friday. Just dump out the PRV and be done with it.

@TWH442

Жыл бұрын

yes and then the prv leaks because it wont seal again. cowboy.

@kendevanny4078

Жыл бұрын

@@TWH442 Oh forgot no one tests the fuction of the prv anymore during a service. Not as if they can be cleaned either. Im such a numpty.

Bad design

@AllenHart999

5 ай бұрын

Thank You

Flat head screwdriver

It's pissing out the top and down the sides of the fitting spilling everywhere. What a piece of crap factory fitting.

As phill Mitchell got a new job?

Looks like a lazy boiler install there. Not one soldered joint

Why don’t you just use a socket with and extension

Yeah, a fucking mess!