How to do a Perfect Speedflip | How to Play Rocket League
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Speed Flip Tutorial : 2:50
Training Pack Code : A503-264C-A7EB-D282
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This video would not have been possible if not for the efforts of two key members. One, a big shout out and thank you to Tyni for creating the BakkesMod speed flip plug in. Second, and certainly not least, to HorayHellfire. He's single handedly been the soul reason why I not only made this video, but was able to learn that this was possible. Thank you so much for all your insight and speaking with me about speed flips.
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@cubeofsoup
Жыл бұрын
training pack code for you folks
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
My bad. I forgot to put that in the description. I’ll fix that. Thank you!
@soykike1991
Жыл бұрын
Hey Grifflicious a friend just send me a video of hitting a speeflip on the first position of the pack with a 1.95 sec time to the ball, all the other videos and everyone shows 1.9667 as the fastest one, kzread.info/dash/bejne/iH93l8N_k9HQnaw.html here is the recording, was this known to be possible?
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
@@soykike1991 two things. Try this with the console turned on (F6). Second, what is your in game FPS?
@soykike1991
Жыл бұрын
@@Grifflicious Alright I will ask him to try and remake it, when I press f6 nothing happens probably for him too, is there an option that need to be enabled? just to make sure I will ask him to download something like tas, FPS are probably through the roof 200-300 since the gaming laptop supports it. Anything else that might help let me know
I still can’t do it
Hit my first speedflip kickoff. Its only been an hour since watching the video and posting my inital comment! I spent 10 mins every evening for 3 weeks awhile back using Musty's training pack never once hitting the ball. After three weeks I stopped doing it daily but tried every now and again for 5 to 10 mins a pop and all I ever seen was the ball go poof! So when I hit the ball for the first time in the training pack it made me flinch I was so supprised! Thanks again Griff!
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
That so dope! Thank you so much for your donation and your progress! This makes me so happy to hear, man. Could not be more stoked for you.
@indigo_editzz
Жыл бұрын
Earned a sub
@___.___.___.___
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t have believed this comment if you didn’t send $20. Definitely giving this a try
@gangstaboy9387
Жыл бұрын
@@Grifflicious I've been practicing speedflip for 2 months on the musty training pack and I was able to make it maybe every 70th time, but I tried the directional air roll way and I can do it much more often even after just 5min of practice. Though I can't relearn the thumb movement so I will just change to air roll right and do it to the left instead cause I haven't mastered Air roll at all yet so it doesn't matter as much. Thank you so much for this! Edit: OMG it's not even hard anymore with this Air Roll technique. Thank you so much! Easily worth changing to air roll right for me
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
@@gangstaboy9387 Hell yeah! This is why we're here, my guy! So stoked you found a method that worked for you and I look forward to making more content you can benefit from.
Finally an actual good speed flip tutorial. I always held air roll and thought my way was wrong, but could to know I can do it holding air roll, just have to counter it. Thank you!
hey men, it might have been a year ago that you uploaded this video, but i am a gc peak gc2 and i never could get a perfect speedflip for years. you did the impossible you made me hit 4 speedflips in the musty training map ever in my life. i was planning to quit rocket leauge because no matter what i tried i just couldn't get the flipcancel. But because of you my legend and your explanation i finnaly got it!!!!!!!!! now i am gonna practice it a ton until i can be more consitent with it. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. No matter what you do, or what your going through, i want you to know you made a 21 year old make gaming more fun again, and made me not give up on rocket leauge. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN MAN, YOUR A REAL ONE FOR ME
@Grifflicious
2 күн бұрын
It’s my pleasure! Glad it helped you
I've known how to speedflip consistently for probably about 3 years now, but your method of cancelling the directional air roll has made me consider changing my method. I also use directional, but only when the rotation is coming back around to finish the rotation with directional. Your way seems a lot smoother, and even a little faster. Thank you for this video, earned another sub! Keep pushing quality tutorials like these, the community needs them!
It's good to see that new content creators are keeping the mechanical tutorials alive for the newer/inquisitive players. Cool video.
You seriously do one of the best (of not the best) tutorials regarding Rocket League. Straight to the point, no clickbaity titles, you look the subject from multiple angles and even provide training packs. Speedflip was something that I already knew how to do, but I didn’t know about the tick perfect speedflip. Awesome video once again.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I certainly do my best to give what I feel is everything people need to learn and nothing more.
Commenting for the algorithm. Your air roll video has sky rocketed my air control and I had already watched 10+ videos on the subject. You are the GOAT of RL tutorials in my mind so far. ❤
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
I sincerely appreciate that! Thank you so much.
@El1as--
Жыл бұрын
nice name
I’ve watched ALL speed flip kickoff videos on KZread and by far this is the best, by information, visual graphics (full slow mo), technique and audio. It’s perfect, I hit my first one in 3 years after your vid! Thank you so much
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You're most welcome and thank you for the kind words!
As a slightly older gamer, I'd basically given up on this mechanic. In a "joking/yeah-right" kinda mood, I worked with your video and after an hour or so I began making touches on the first shot, and then scored it shortly thereafter. Thank you!
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome! This is why we’re here!
After watching a bunch of different videos talking about how to do the speed flip I finally hit my first speed flip yesterday!! I’m still in disbelief. I thought my game glitched when I saw the ball bounce off the wall. Today I’ve hit 7 more. Hopping to understand how it feels to do it so that I can more consistently replicate that feeling. Still a little uncertain on how exactly I’m doing it but I’m so happy to finally be able to do it.
This is the best explanation I’ve seen - the detail and extra info is incredible. I’ve watched many videos on the topic and none were as valuable as this was. Liked and subscribed for more content like this!!
Bro, i dont think you know how much training i have put into learning speed-flip, ive seen multiple videos, nothing have helped me, i then today stumbled across your video and thought i might try it again, after sitting and trying for like an hour and watching your video paying attention to every detail, i finally did it, the ball hit the wall, and i could not believe it i just sat there flabbergasted, after so many hours and videos trying to learn speed-flip, this is the golden one, this video takes the crown, you are AMAZING, cannot thank you enough
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
That’s so dope! I’m super happy I could help you!
For people trying to use this training pack and having issues with the ball floating in mid-air and falling to the ground OR the timer starting at 2 seconds and then jumping to 10 seconds, what fixed it for me was going to the "Custom Training" tab in the bakkesmod plugin overlay and unchecking the "Enable custom training variance" option.
seriously the most comprehensive speedflip video out there, you’re the best
I love the additional info and explanation for the mechanics, how they work and what theoretical perfection looks like. It helps inform me of what i should be aiming to do and recognize bad habits within my execution. I've been doing what i thought were proper speedflips for months but this is the first time i could do the training pack. Thanks a lot man, love ur vids.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You're most welcome and I'm stoked to hear this helped you!
@jinx8462
4 ай бұрын
If you can’t do the training pack isn’t it not a proper speed flip?
THIS is the absolute best video on the subject. I could never figure it out but you explained it in so much detail, that i finally got it.
Oh my i just for the first time hit musty test on my ps5 without speedflip plugin i am So happy man. This video i a key to learn speedflip. Man you are a legend!❤🔥👑👑
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
This is one of the best speed flip tutorials out there so thank you for making it! One thing I still find missing in all of these (including this one) is really how to apply the speed flip during kickoffs and not just the different angles to use at different starting positions and when to start it (around the first boost pad) but how to counter the opponents different kickoffs, depending on if they are speed flipping or not, what angles they are coming from, and how to place the ball where you want it. A lot of my speedflip kickoffs end up with me getting to the ball first, then hitting it into the opponent and then it bouncing back onto my side of the field. I know I need to just practice and experiment more, but I think content on how to apply the speed flip kickoff would further differentiate this type of tutorial! Thanks again!
This is the first tutorial that explains it well enough that I'm able to get it on Musty's training pack consistently. FFS - thank you. My biggest issues were: pressing engine in addition to boost and not canceling straight down. These two details made a world of difference
Your tutorials and breakdowns are something else. Your tutorials are by far the most helpful ones I've come across! Please keep up the great work
I have never been able to hit the ball once. I've watched multiple other videos and my speedflips were starting to look good but I was still too slow on the map. You saved me the precious milliseconds I needed. I just hit 5 in a row. After 5 minute of practice after watching this video. You are a legend my man thankyou. Subscribed.
@Grifflicious
10 ай бұрын
You're most welcome! I'm so happy to hear it helped!
I didn't think it was possible! But after watching this, after 3 days of seeing the ball vanish I've actually hit it twice! The driving around and pushing my analogue stick up really helped showed me where I want to be pushing it! Thanks dude, major love
Thank you this was a great comprehensive tutorial! The thing that helped the most was the bakkes mod plugin, I never realized how precise you have to be with the analog stick to get a good flip.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
Dude I just want to say you're freaking insane bro. I love it. I look forward to watching more of your content.🎉
Where have you been all my life! I hope to see more content like this from you. You have quite the gift for explaining things in an easy to understand manner. I, as I'm sure many others, thank you.
yo, your comment about hitting the cancel at the same time as the second jump would be bottoming out did the trick for me. Explaining the difference with the half flip cancel was really helpful as well. Thanks man! I've hit maybe 2 proper speed flips the past couple months and just hit 10x more in the past few minutes after this video. Really good work dude. Thank you!
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
That's dope! Glad to hear it! I realize there wasn't a good explanation of that part of the mechanic so I tried really hard to make it as simple and illustrate it as well as I could. I'm stoked it helped!
Dude your tutorials are always so in depth and leave out no details. I absolutely love it because you give us every bit of information we need to learn something. speedflips have been an arch nemesis of mine for mechanics. I like to think i have decent mechs for a c1 (nothing super insane though) but I've absolutely been super stuck any time i try to learn how to speedflip. There always seemed to be minor differences in different tutorials and i could never figure out what worked for me. In about 20 minutes after watching your tutorial, I've managed to pass the musty test 3 times running at half speed. Haven't gotten it full game sped yet, but it's progress, more than I've had before. Though I still get kinda confused that sometimes i fail even when everything is in the green, but ive also passed when everything is yellow (using the bakkesmod plugin)
Thanks dude. I've been watching other videos on the speedflip, and how you have to have your stick diagonal to cancel it. I couldnt do it well at all. Aiming it down fixed the problem for me, can easily repeatedly do it now. I appreciate it man
I can do prefect speed flip for years but I always struggle to explain it to my friends in lower rank because I personally don't know the exact theory and other elements behind it and after watching this video, I finally understand it, thank you.
@johny-hg9zg
Жыл бұрын
lol. u could do it perfectly but struggle to explain... vice versa for me, haha
I’m not even 5 mins into this video and it’s already by far the best speed flip video I’ve ever seen. It’s my first time watching one of your vids and I didn’t even make it a third of the way through before deciding to subscribe. Keep it up.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much!
I’ve practiced speed flips for years and could never figure it out. Watched this video, went into the musty training pack and I finally hit the ball 😢 my problem was not canceling the flip early enough. Awesome video!
Hell yes Griff, thanks a bunch for the video, even though I already know how to speedflip, your tutorial helped me go over the basics again, and now I can constantly do speedflip kickoffs🙌🏼✨
Just want to say, I really appreciate this video. The directional air roll hack, holding it and doing the adjustment and keeping the stick in that direction was invaluable - I've also just recently been able to hit the ball in Musty's pack, and actually twice in the same session lol. Thanks a lot!
@Grifflicious
13 күн бұрын
You’re most welcome! Glad it could help
This is extremely useful, thank you for such an in depth tutorial especially with the "how it should feel" part when actually doing it, amazing vid
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
I have watched many tutorials and after watching those almost get the speed flip. After watching this I got the final missing piece and managed to do musty speed flip test. Thanks for detailed information what is going on and all that! Really needed this.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome. Super excited to hear this helped you.
Your method is amazing, just started practicing 2 days ago, 1 day was awful lol, the second day i could hit the ball in the pack, and today i can already do in somewhat consistently with your method... In just 3 days of practice i learned my favourite mechanic. This guide made it possible, encourage everyone to at least watch it and try his method
Dude. You are a LIFE saver. 15 times in 30 minutes and I haven’t been able to do this for YEARS. Side note I feel like an idiot after realizing how simple it is
I had given up on speed flips until I watched this. Thank you!
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
Best tutorial ever fr! 🎉 helped me hit my first speed flip on the musty training pack. This bakkes mod pack is the secret all the pros use fs
Amazing job! The way you speed flip and the way you teach others is almost exactly how I taught others as well! For almost a year I've been assigned the "speed flip coach" on another you tubers discord and since then I've helpen about 60 people get it down, using the bakkes mod plugin you used, plus slow motion, plus I use they way you speed flip as well, holding ARL and holding the stick slightly to the right. This tutorial will help a lot of people and I will point people who ask me to help them to this video!
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
That's dope to hear! Thank you so much for the kind words and I appreciate your support. I'm thrilled you can have a resource to give people now when they ask if you aren't available to help. Hopefully this helps as many folks as it can. Feel free to keep in touch! I'm always looking for others in the education circle to flesh out and bounce ideas off of.
Again with a straight banger. Keep up the good work I'll keep commenting. Watched your air roll left tutorial and now I can use it in game after only a few weeks. Watched your mawkzy flicks tutorial and I actually feel like I know how to flick (the part about where on the car you should flick the ball, and the distance from the CoG of the car to the ball for power just made so much sense). Now time to be a speed flipper (btw, started a year and a half ago and just reached c1 with almost no mechanics. Hopefully you'll get me looking a little flashier :))
This is hands down the best speed flip tutorial I’ve ever watched I’m gc2 and I been learned how to speed flip but this right here has taught me how to do it properly. I could get some proper speed flips sometimes and I realize my fingers would do it on their own but this has actually showed me what my fingers were actually doing now I have it down consistently thank you
@Grifflicious
4 ай бұрын
You're most welcome! Glad it could help.
wow so much detail amazing work.
really enjoying the brainy approach you have to teaching various rocket league mechanics. good shit!
I've been trying to learn how to speed flip for so long now, I've watched countless videos and even tried changing my settings lol. Nothing worked. But less than 30 minutes after watching this video, I actually hit the ball in the training pack. Thank you so much!
@Grifflicious
8 ай бұрын
You're most welcome!
Awesome guide! I’ll have to learn it. Most in depth guide I’ve seen
I was trying to learn a speedflip, and I did hit is but very inconsistent. This is a great vid and I finally can practise on consistency with this third method since that works so much better for me. Thank you!!
I didnt even know this plug in existed till today. Finally I have something to tell me what I'm doing wrong. You a real one thx!
Incredibly detailed video; better than the larger creators!
You need more subscribers, this is (by a very large margin) the best I've ever seen a speed-flip, or how to execute one, explained.
Seriously amazing breakdown. As a mouse and keyboard player I'm a little sad, but I love the incredible detail you've put in here. You've definitely earned my sub
Your content is mad under rated. This tutorials are way good bro
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Thank you so much.
I've watched dozens of videos and I've never managed the speedflip, but with this one I manage it in just a few minutes
I hit GC with a scuffed speed flip (couldn't hit the ball in the training pack). With all your instructions and the plugin for bakkes i started hittin the ball pretty easily, Thanks ALOT man! i've watched some videos before but never could get the timings right.
Haven’t even went on rocket league to start to learn yet but this is amazing how u described it because I’ve never really known how they worked. Il remember u when I’m pro!
Great work man ive also been obsessing about the perfect speedflip for months now hahaha
Absolutely amazing vid and break down!
Just want to say this is hands down the best speedflip tutorial, the depth is so good. Before this I wasn’t hitting the ball in the training pack at all. Downloaded the bakkesmod plugin and slowed it down to really see where I was going wrong and get the muscle memory down, then eventually sped it up back to normal and hitting it every time !!! Thank you !!!!
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You're most welcome! I'm glad it was able to help you!
Dude, you are literally the best, youtube is filled with bull shit about speed flips, but you went straight to the point, and told about the timings, unlike others. Good job, keep it up!
Thank you, bro. Other tutorials really don't sufficiently explain the speed flip
@Grifflicious
10 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
This is the kind of detail I appreciate, thanks so much
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You're most welcome!
Hey Griff, I'm happy someone like you is making tutorial videos, I have the same mindset as you about perfection. The thing about this game that keeps me coming back is how bad I am at it. I've watched many tutorial videos and they're really mostly done for views but this is the first one that is informative. They tell you how to perform the mechanic and then say practice for 1000 hours, which isn't wrong but it is time wasted blindly piecing together a mechanic instead of having a consistent base and underlying understanding. I watch pros play and try to study their movements because to me, there is no secret to their method, just a set of inputs executed very well according to memory, which can be done by anyone if we knew exactly how to perform the same operations. The most fascinating part of watching pros is their level of car control and if you ever get a chance to make another tutorial video there is one level of control in particular that is stunning and possibly the hardest to learn which I am currently trying to figure out myself. The mechanic is recovery and control after and during a dodge, which sounds simple but pros have full control over where they dodge, how they recover from the dodge and align themselves towards the ball almost instantaneously. Now normally they flip cancel but there is a time when your flip cancel runs out and your car goes back to taking the normal input, but during a flip cancel you can also orient your car a certain way by canceling the flip cancel as well (lol). If you could break this down that would be great, but if not I understand now from your aerial video that all things are best learned by performing single (if possible) variable actions (such as stick positions) and building the comprehension of that path. Thanks for the videos, you are up there with Rocket Science.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words and the suggestion! It's all part of the plan, actually. Without giving too much away, this is all culminating towards a larger vision of car control mastery that I hope will build into what I have envisioned. Recoveries are coming! I promise, but we just have to build a few more layers before we get there. Otherwise, there's too much potential for food to be left on the table.
@wayttilsun1129
Жыл бұрын
@@Grifflicious Awesome man, looking forward to your car control revolution!!
These tutorials are crazy indeed, i can only repeat others, but i still feel like i have to 😀 The amount of details you put in them while keeping it easy to follow... That's just fully understanding how to teach others. A rare ability. I learn music at university and i always recognize more and more similarities at learning things and practicing both on my trumpet and in RL. And after having so many different trumpet teachers, i always felt the huge ascension at the level they taught me on and how easy things became to understand just by explaining differently. And as i said, i definitely feel like you have that ability to teach well, and you putted in the time and effort as well, which brought these cool tutorials to life. (Sorry for grammar mistakes i may've made, and much respect for you!)
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! My passion is education so being able to do this for a game I also love, is a privilege and one I enjoy doing.
Very very good tutorial i already had a perfect speed flip, very op for just speed and kickoff its good too.
Best tutorial ever the timing was my biggest problem after rebinding boost to airoll (dunno why I never did) and getting the timing closer I can actually see progress instead of spinning out👊
Accidentally taught myself method 3 a while back before I knew what a speedflip was. I remember hearing about speed flips and looking up a tutorial, just to realize I already used speed flips in my gameplay, just using air roll to do a diagonal flip, and then canceling and adjusting to land.
my guy needs more subs ! ive always heard to cancel in opposite direction and my speed flip was so slow, thanks for the re-programming lol !
great vid, very well explained and detailed. thanks
Last night I fell into the speed-flip rabbit hole. decided to learn it and then found out about the Musty pack. Like you Griff I am also a masochist. I ended I trying last night over 1K times in a row and staying up waaay too late. I actually started sweating and feeling sick after quite a few hours of rinse and repeat attempts. I ended up going to bed defeated and then today I decided to take powerslide off of the same button as DaR. I thought "Ill just try this time hitting powerslide as I land instead of holding it through the whole movement." I change the keybind and the first attempt something odd happened...the ball went forward and bounced off of the wall as I flew in and it finally registered in my mind that I actually hit the ball that time. I did that. After literally bruising my fingertip from holding down DaR for so long yesterday I did it. It worked. Thank you.
This tutorial was great. For the fisrt time ever i hit the ball on that challenge despite feeling that i kind of have the flip down. The big issue was using throttle instead of boost.
yeah like the best speedflip video ive seen great job
omg thank you so much, i watched so many videos, and tried for 4 weeks but always didnt got it. Finally thank you i hit 10x the ball within 10-20 minutes.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome! Glad it could help.
Great video! I subbed!
Awesome video, very in depth. I didn’t realize how fast you were supposed to cancel the flip.
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, it's gnarly and that's why I really wanted to emphasize it because I don't feel like anyone really does it justice.
Great video I already know how to do a perfect speed flip but this was nice to watch
yo i queued into u in 2s yesterday thats crazy bc i watch ur videos too much love this tuto is gonna help me ❤❤
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
I remember! That was a good game too. Appreciate the love and support.
Thank you sir. Love your content
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
Console player here, been doing speed flips for about 6 months,, I’ve watched every video out there,, I have been canceling diagonally the entire time,, I will try the straight south cancel tonight!!!
You’re The best at guides
Very poggers, and thank you for including a section about us KBM players. It's really hard to find good KBM specific tips, and it's hard to know what things translate between controller and keyboard.
Brooo, tysm it took me 3 hours with 42% game speed but I finally hit it twice!!
This is the best tutorial for speed flip i have ever seen
This is the best speedflip tutorial ever i kept failing cuz i would use accelerate instead of boost this got me speedflipping by my third attempt thank you
@Grifflicious
10 ай бұрын
You're most welcome! Glad I could help. Hope you'll check out the others I have. Always trying to pack as much good stuff in them as I can!
great video, subbed!
12 fucking videos later, this guys tutorial actually told me what i needed to know
these videos are amazing.
Superb video! Note that XBox controllers allow for more precise vertical movement with the left stick due to ergonomics.
Man, i've been drilling this for a month and you're the first person I've seen mention not using throttle. Was barely paying attention to your video, heard that and hit my first in like 2 minutes. Good stuff.
@MaraBono
10 ай бұрын
If u have reg controls like me [x-jump,,o-boost] how to do it correct? So, im starting boosting and than leave it so go jump and back to boost or press it together? Great vid, tnx
This dude is genius
the fact that its not hard to train since he explained it so easily and especially since im plat makes it all easier❤ although directional air roll still catches me out since iv gotten so used to normal air roll😂
Thank you, you made my speedflip a lot more consistent, if i can give you an advice on the video, also explain how to speedflip from every kickoff position, its a thing no one talks about but i feel itsvery important to understand how to perform it from every kickoff spawn.
the best tutorials on youtube!
I love you bro i can literally speed flip but missed the training pack because of the R2 delay i was going insane i already can speedflip💀
My tm8 hit it after u video, the video also make me more aware of how it works thanks a lot, may God bless you
Just discovered your channel, you've got some of the best instructional vids on RL i've seen. Granted I'm a scrubby Plat with 800 hours
@Grifflicious
Жыл бұрын
Rank is irrelevant. We're all trying to get better.
Best RL tutor out there
FINALLY! A speed flip tutorial that acknowledged you can only cancel vertically. Thank you my fellow nerd!
This tutorial brought up a really key point. Your thumb's positioning will dictate how consistent the flip cancel direction is (ideally straight down as you said). What I noticed is that hand posture is a major factor in how consistent that cancel is. By putting my left hand a bit further down on the controller (shortening the grip a bit to straighten the thumb - this avoids having too much horizontal angle on the left joystick) you can have a more vertical cancel. The only problem is, I don't know how sustainable it is vs other hand placements - meaning how sore/tired your thumb will be after a long session vs other methods.