Hiya James, thinking of converting my conservatory roof & insulating. Searched KZread for ideas and you popped up. Great video. I'm sure I used to go to North Chad with you? Good job anyway

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, yea I’ve moved out of this house now but it was great doing this project. I found everything from a video a lady did on here. Thanks for the support.

I actually think it looks effective with that bit there...and you done a grand job

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

Thanks I watched tutorials as it was good to do it but I’m not in that house now. I’ve making other videos now of my new house. 200 year old Georgian house.

Does anyone have a link to the building regulations for this? I can't seem to find a straight answer on it. Thanks

Really excellent video and love the house rabbits!! Did you have any issues drilling into the glazing bars ie were you concerned about putting in a screw to far or in the wrong place and causing a leak within the roof?

@FamousJames

2 жыл бұрын

No I watched a video done by a lady and then just bought what I thought was good. There is a lot of room inside the frame so I just drilled and it worked. I did put a few extra screws in in places due to the weights of the boards. My fiancée says it’s warmer than it was and obviously the side windows will let warmth out but if I close the blinds it’ll stop a nice garden view. Thanks for watching and nice comment. Hope my video helps or helped. Yeah the rabbits are a pain, eat everything but are funny too.

@3stuartpayne

2 жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames many thanks ,say hi to the rabbits 😄

Really helpful video - thanks. Is there a risk of condescension building up under the installation between the polycarbonate roof?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

There wasn’t whilst I was living there but now I’ve moved so I presume all good.

Hello. Look if anyone else does this, and its OK to do it, take these extra precautions. Firstly the foil is super reflective, so the sunlight that once came through the poly-carbonate/glass harmlessly into the room is now magnified and reflected at close quarter to the plastic, glass seals etc. At the very least this can cause the seals to cook and crumble, letting leaks in, at the worst, and this DOES happen, its a fire risk. So blacken the original ply/glass either with paint or a suitable membrane that is fire proof, a roofing membrane (or sarking) will do. Secondly, you have extra weight on the roof, it will now want to spread. So please retro fit a tie bar or two if yours doesn't have one. If it doesn't have one its because it didn't need it with the spread and load when it was built BUT it will need one or two now. Dont forget, now its insulated snow will not melt and run off, it will stay and is real heavy. Not trying to disrespect this job, workmanship or scare anyone but just trying to inform and hope to help. Kind regards Pat

@HMomber

Жыл бұрын

Hi, with regards to your comment of applying a membrane to stop seal degradation, do you suggest applying it directly to the poly/glass internally or externally? Or can it be laid on the outward face of the insulation between the baton sandwich? Hopefully that makes sense, thanks in advance.

@Pat0rchard

Жыл бұрын

@@HMomber Hi Harry. The seals will, in time, degrade regardless. They are however designed for the job, water, uv etc and, like your car rubber seals around doors, will become older looking, cracked etc BUT they will still last for many years, in fact the life of the conservatory. The problem I highlight is the magnification of the sun that having silver backed foil insulation exposed to the sun. As long as you stop that reflection then you are helping the situation. You could actually paint the surface with a matt black paint or similar. I always had spare roofing membrane left over so used that but as long as something is under the glass internally and on top of the shiny surface of the insulation you have cured the issue I to hope this makes sense...

@HMomber

Жыл бұрын

@@Pat0rchard Perfect, makes sense to me. Thanks for replying!

@spoiltpooch

3 ай бұрын

@@Pat0rchard would it be advisable to put roofing felt on top of the poly (on the outside) to prevent reflection of the foil damaging the existing poly roof or would that pose a fire risk?

@Pat0rchard

3 ай бұрын

@@spoiltpooch Hello. I personally would not try this. Roofing felt is not a great product to cut, trim or fasten neatly. I stopped using it a long time ago and my preference on flat roofs is one piece rubber. I think it will look messy at best. Just need something to block the UV while keeping it attractive from outside. You can get false roof slate effect covering for sheds I saw someplace. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the video. I am about to start this on my conservatory. Did you install any ventilation? Is it required? I am worried about condensation build up in between the layers

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t seal the bottom near the windows so the layers can breathe. Just make sure it’s solid and secure. I’m not in that house anymore, doing another house up but it seems to work.

Great vid! I was thinking of just laying batons across the top of the window blind rails and then laying insulation across the top of the batons as a temporary measure through winter. Do you think it will be effective? I don't have any doors between kitchen and conservatory, so it is shedding so much heat from the house.

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I mean if you ewant temporary then fair enough but if you want a nice finish that will add value to your home and save on loft heating then i'd go with doing a proper job and take the time.

@jimbagheed483

Жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames yea, I just need something cheap that will save a few quid on gas over this winter and possibly next till I have the cash to get it done properly.

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

@@jimbagheed483 i would say if you don’t care how it looks then just either batten it and staple insulated film on it or you could just staple the film to the roof and be done with it. All depends if you want a sh1t show look or a nice look basically

how is it 1 year on in the conservatory? have you noticed the difference in temperature in there? it would be really interesting to see a quick follow up video 1 year on.

@FamousJames

11 ай бұрын

Sorry dude. I've moved house now. I did it and then the wife found another house. But it did help for sure. it was way more comfortable to be in the room. I'm fully renovating a 200 year old house now.

How'd you finish the edges at the bottom of the roof where it hits into the frame again? Cheers for the video boss

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I just left the bottoms as they were clean edges and it lets air circulate also. Thanks for the view and comment, I've done other DIY video since this one too.

Trying this project myself, as we had a glass conservatory, I've lined the inner glass with thermafrost (As I understand, it prevents UV damage of the insulation layer, means you don't see the insultation from the outside and helps a bit with condensation prevention. I'm in the process of ordering the battens, but am unsure which ones to get. What type of wood did you use? Im seeing kiln dried, treated roof timber and CLS... I'm also figuring out batten size. I'm trying to balance out the size of battens that will be big enough to support a layer to plasterboard but also as light as possible. I'm currently thinking of going with Kiln dried 19x38... Any advice?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I ordered battens that were same width as the conservatory roof trusses ie frame. for me it was more about what screws to buy to anchor the wood. I don't see the point in kiln ones really as you're inside so it doesn't need weather protecting, but its uptown you really on that one. I would go for thin boards as well as you don't need heavy boards in there or even fireboards. I can't remember if I mentioned the sizes of the wood etc in the video as I did it 1.5 years ago. I don't live there anymore. I think I got 2x1" battens but not sure. I've done more DIY videos also like loft hatch, boarding my loft etc also if you're thinking about that project also.

@Absurbicant

Жыл бұрын

​@@FamousJames Thanks! Think I've got my hands full with this project for now, but will look on jealously!

Can you do a temp reading in summer and one in winter to see if its a marked difference.

@FamousJames

Ай бұрын

sadly I can't because I moved house 2 years ago so no longer have access to this house. thanks. What I can say is It was more bearable in the summer the it was.

@terrymorton9941

Ай бұрын

@@FamousJames thanks for reply matey

Hi with the edges where the foil meets the top of windows . Do u tape it to the window tops? Or do u just batton the bottom across (2nd layer) . Won’t that leave air gaps?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I stapled the foil to the battons and then cross battoned it for plaster boarding it. I did tape the edges too to create a seal. Hope this helps. I’m currently renovating another house too if you like watching diy videos. Thanks for your message and viewing of the video 👍

@s.r3366

Жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames hi are you on insta ? Wanted to show a picture of how builder has done edges. Im worrying he hasn’t done it properly. He just screwed batons to the plastic rafter , then placed the insulation in first baton and screwed 2nd baton through to the first like a sandwich . But did not staple? Kept telling him to staple first but wouldn’t listen

@s.r3366

Жыл бұрын

And he placed 2nd batons vertically like the first but with no horizontal batton at the bottom edge where insulation and top of window meet so there’s gaps ? Does the 2nd batton need to be tightly positioned at the bottom to stop air thriugh ? Could i foil tape the edge of insulation onto the top of upvc window?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

@@s.r3366 I’ve places vertical battons first, the insulated foil, stapled it, tapes the joins, then horizontal battons for plaster boarding so as you said the air can circulate but provides what I want ie to hold the heat in and keep it out dependant on the weather.

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

@@s.r3366 I screwed the battons through the plastic into the metal for a secure hold. I watched a lady on here doing it and my videos shows what materials I used at each part.

Conservatorys which don t let light through the roofs need planning permission I think.. Those which let light through do not so if you have blocked the light now the conservatory needs planning permission . Something I had to check when selling a property and buying one with a conservatory.I could be wrong as its ten years since I was involved

@immune18

6 ай бұрын

Since 2019 you don’t need planning permission for conservatories to put a solid roof on, as long as it’s under 30m square.

Hi James. A year later, can you give an update on whether it was worth it as I am thinking of doing as I have same issue with my conservatory. Great video 👍

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

thanks mate, I've moved house now but in the period i used it, it did help. I mean for £100 in materials and a few days work over 100's and trades fitting upvc ceiling i'd say its good. My buyers haven't complained so I imagine its still works and hasn't fallen down. I've done a loft hatch and ladder install in. my new house reno series too.

@lookingoutforadventures6009

Жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames Busy busy! Do you think it's worth adding some loft insulation if I get thinner rolls?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

@@lookingoutforadventures6009 no, you need to let the roof breathe even though you’re insulating it. What I’ve done will be fine and it did make a difference.

can the batons hold the weight of the plasterboards and the skimming etc?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I screwed the batons into the metal of the original roof, the insulated, the battened to batons, then boarded and I didn't skim all, just joints.

I'm just about to do this, but I was going to use 9mm hardboard instead of plaster board as mines a slanted roof. Do you think that will be ok?

@FamousJames

5 ай бұрын

You can use whatever you like but it's easier to work with plasterboard cutting wise than wood.

Hi! Do you have a list of what you bought and where from? Thanks x

@FamousJames

5 ай бұрын

In the video I mentioned what I bought for this build and it was all from a timber yard or diy shops. Sorry I just don't live there anymore so can't remember exactly.

Good job is it allot warmer

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

yeah fairly, way nicer to sit in and stuff

What was the thickness of the timber

@FamousJames

2 жыл бұрын

It was 50mm x 25mm.

Thanks for the video! Is it genuinely warmer/cooler in winter/summer? Has the space become actually usable or is it still a wasted space? Thanks again!

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I was useable whilst I lived there, I have since moved house due to wife finding another renovation project of which i vlog. but yeah it was great whilst i lived with it. thanks for the nice comment.

Is it Warmer

@FamousJames

2 жыл бұрын

According to my fiancée yes it is. Not as warm as the house is but then the heat escapes though the side windows and holds the heat in the roof. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I appreciate it. I like to help in my diy videos to show you can do it if you want to and not pay 1000s for a trade.

I had some joker quote me £9000 to do mine!!! he said "we use the same space wrap as NASA". LOL just out of interest, is it much warmer in the winter? thanks for the vid mate

@FamousJames

2 жыл бұрын

It’s abit better but it’s like any conservatory. When it’s cold it’ll be cold ish and I’m the summer it’ll be hot but it is better than it was.

@mylesgoward5954

7 ай бұрын

9k lol he's hvaing you on.

Did you take the temperature before the insulation and after. Else, how do you know your work has improved the cold problem. A lot of the work was unseen so I'm wondering if 'the girlfriend' was the one doing all the work and you were the narrator!!!

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

yeah my wife did all the work and I just sat there an did nowt hahaha. well we don't live at this house anymore and the new owners haven't complained. I know its made a difference as when I did go in there in both types of weather it was more comfortable to be in there than it was before I did it.

@sniperpd9505

Жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames So it should be called Famous Wife, Do you have a conservatory in your new house?

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

@@sniperpd9505 haha no not at the new one. She’s still doing everything 😂 literally I need to put a GoPro up to show I’m doing stuff. I’ve literally put 2 toilets, 2 sinks, a shower tray, loft hatch, boarded a loft, done plastering. Reroofed a shed, installed a kitchen sink, changed multiple lights etc.

@sniperpd9505

Жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames Yes, a GoPro or the wife with a camera filming Famous James doing the work.

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

@@sniperpd9505 my wife would not stand there filming and my camera only has so much battery so GoPro it’ll be. If I do this I better get more views and subs as it’ll be more work and hopefully showing more of the process of stuff

Didn’t see him do anything!

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I basically through dusty in my face and recorded the video ha. I wish I had a videographer to record me actually doing the graft ha

The conservatory roof was never designed to take any extra load ( apart from snow load ) also there is no airflow. What you have done is not safe, and once the trapped damp gets to a certain point the plasterboard will simply come crashing down. What you think you have done super cheap will end up costing you dear… to put it right. Also you have devalued your house doing this. Sorry it’s not what you wanted to hear, Conservatory roof insulating has building regs for a good reason 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

@FamousJames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your advice and comment. I watched many professional videos about best way to sort it and asked professionals too. If it falls, it falls, if it doesn’t and it works as it does then nice. There will be no trapped damp as I have left air gaps and not plastered the edges so we shall see.

@bensomerset1

2 жыл бұрын

@@FamousJames I wish you luck.. and fair play to you having a go at keeping the heat in. Cheers I only commented as i wanted you to beware of the risks

@FamousJames

2 жыл бұрын

@@bensomerset1 yeah I appreciate it. I always research vastly before undergoing a project. If it falls, I’ll fix, if it’s fine, happy days. Thanks for commenting and advice. This is why I post videos for others to talk about it or help them or even myself.

Would have been nicer if you showed us how the insulation went into the roof rather than showing your skills

@FamousJames

Жыл бұрын

I did show how it went into the roof. I showed each step in the process.

@Wild-Storm

10 ай бұрын

@@FamousJames sorry i missed it 😞

@FamousJames

10 ай бұрын

@@Wild-Storm you can see how I’ve battened it and then insulated it then battened then boarded.