I only use Rockwool. It's water, fire, bug and mouse proof. I've only ever found one mouse nest in it and the nest had been abandoned. Your point is excellent though. Rockwool is un-faced so it meets the goal.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@_Wake_Up_If_U_Can

Ай бұрын

I was going to post the same thing. Our 1890 house was built with air flowing through all the walls and zero insulation. It is hard to keep the temperature stable to keep it comfortable. We have been adding rockwool in walls when we open them over the years. Makes a huge difference not only for temperature stability but also makes it much quieter! Although the double pane Pella windows we installed made the biggest difference.

The looking around in the forest while holding the fiberglass insulation had me LOL!

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Lol you know those dang rodents are just waiting for it

You have done a fabulous job making your cabin air tight and rodent proof. Great job! 👏 Lots of hard work. Love your videos. 🙋🏻‍♀️🇨🇦

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

Nice. Once you get to the smell of fresh cut pine on the finishing is the most rewarding. The tedious behind the scenes where the rubber meets the road.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks !

Twenty years later , they tear the whole house down.

At my lake house in south Texas, I re-did a cathedral ceiling upstairs. I used perforated hardie plank soffits outside and instead of those preformed plastic baffles to the ridge vent, I used 1" thick Styrofoam sheets cut into strips the width of the joists and used 1x2's to space the gap between the roofing plywood and the insulation sheeting. My thought was this gives me more R value in my ceiling after adding the fiberglass insulation. That was 10 years ago and the Texas summer heat does not make the house as hot as before I did this install. Previous ceiling was plywood, fiberglass and 1/4" paneling. Ugh.

When you install the Hardware cloth, make sure to run it the same direction as the joists. If you go perpendicular to the joists you will create a gap between the layers and animals (especially raccoons) will find it. Also, you should use PVC coated hardware cloth so you don’t have to do it again. Depending on how humid your area is, the regular hardware cloth will rust out after a few years.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

2 ай бұрын

Great points !

I like your attention to detail. Tape the seam in the vent pipe with foil tape to keep it from springing open. The seam joint is called a Pittsburgh join and often they aren't fully formed. If you close the female side a little bit it fits tighter. Always tape the seams.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Great tip!

We are building our own cabin too. We are going to use mineral wool and double bubble alumin foil because it is acting as extra insulation plus as vapor barier, overlapped, and taped it with aluminum foil. Under the roof we are doing the same, with the higher R value insulation but we are waiting for warmer weather because we want to apply 3 in of closed cell foam first to encapsulate it ( is going to be unvented) and then place the mineral wool leaving 3/4 in of air gap and bubble foil, then dry wall painted with 2-3 coats of latex paint to act as an extra vapor barrier. Probably, the entire inside will be painted with 2 coats min of latex paint for added vapor barrier. A lot of work, regardless of what type of insulation is used

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a good plan !

To appease some of the keyboard comandos, you can use some Rockwool comfort board as the protection layer under the cabin. It will add more insulation value, a fire barrier, animals won’t nest in it and also stop the thermal bridging at the floor joists which is what you were panning on achieving with your foam panels and plywood. Good job.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks !

@robertlivingston1634

5 ай бұрын

Mice and squirrels are perfectly happy to nest in your rock wool, little bastards just don't care what they're not supposed to like.

@whitehorse1961

5 ай бұрын

Yup, the a holes made nests in rock wool like it’s nobody’s business. Even my cats like rock wool .

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@whitehorse1961 hopefully me having the hardware cloth plus some rigid foam insulation plus 3/4 in pressure treated plywood will slow them down some.

@freeman3978

4 ай бұрын

get a dog or cat haha, thatll slow them all the way down to dead@@TheDIYCabinGuy

Hey Tristan,you made that look easy lol ,in our cottage we are building here in Ontario we used the rockwool on the walls and spray foamed the ceiling ,cost me 11000.00 just for the ceiling, it took me awhile to get the hang of installing the rockwall ,we are using 6 mm plastic vapor barrier, curious as the the vapour barrier you have going on in your next video,never thought about planning the blocking tho so hope I dont have a problem when we start the drywall come spring , keep the videos coming,thank you,, Doug

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Im curious how much I would have been charged to get someone to spray foam the ceiling. The air barrier / vapor barrier I used is called intello plus, I’ll cover that in the next episode.

Its not heavy work but it is work. Great job

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Surely still took a decent amount of time !

Great episode🎉

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot !

He is right. Who would ever use cheap pink insulation?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

Күн бұрын

Me 😂

Cath-eh-drill 😂

Looking good!

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Great job 👍.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

You did a great job👍

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

great vid!

@TheDIYCabinGuy

3 ай бұрын

Thanks !

Faced insulation should be put on with the paper side toward the living space like it says on the batt. I dont know about ceiling. But in the closed in garage we put the paper side up in the attic which is wtong but there was no moisture mold to be had take this advice in this video with a grain of salt. I will use unfaced and put my own vapor over the insulation, then put the boards on. I like the foil type of vapor barior. 73

@Me-dx5zb

Күн бұрын

where the insulation is against your roof you just install foam baffles too allow air flow from soffit to the ridgeline...it will not sweat or mold . Faced insulation has been used for decades .

@ronb6182

Күн бұрын

@@Me-dx5zb dad never insulated the roof line just the ceiling . He used 3 and a half faced insulation with the paper toward the living space our house was never cold. They back in the fifties did not use 6 or more inches. Only in the garage part was cold. The celler part was warm enough and where the furnace was it was real warm. We had an electronic work bench there with an old telephone operator stool with arms. The garage was cold but who cares you don't live in that part. Only store junk. And lawnmowers. I practiced piano downstairs in the celler because I liked that old upright better than the one upstairs the action was more forceful on that old early teen piano. Back to insulation. If you insulate the roof the snow won't melt it could be three feet of snow up there I would rather have a bare roof in the winter. The farm house had no heat in the attic and we had icicles from the roof to the ground over ten feet long. Had the attic had heat which we put later the roof was bare just like home. Fuel was not a problem we had a natural gas well on the farm. Well my parents sold the farm then the cottage at a lake and then our home and we moved to Florida and froze in the winter because the lack of insulation and the cold concrete slab we had to walk on. Carpet is no insulation. 73

@ronb6182

Күн бұрын

@@Me-dx5zb faced insulation is old school and I told why it was not used on the roof line. Snow has to melt if it gets too deep. Some people put heating elements on their pitched roof that wastes electric. There are better materials. If I had a metal roof I would have insulation board (foam) under the metal to cut down rain storm noise. 73

Paper goes towards the living space 😂

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Indeed , but I used unfaced

propper vent in all the ceiling bays is a must or you'll have no airflow

@johndough1966

4 ай бұрын

THIS is correct. Any attempt at adequate insulation with a proper vapour barrier will only work as well if the air above can be ventilated. Without ventilation, warm air will only collect and thus create moisture. The floor insulation should also include a vapour barrier over the joists, before sheeting. Alternatively, best practice would be closed-cell spray foam which will create a vapour barrier in itself and not be penetrated 5000 times with fasteners as poly vapour barrier would end up.

if you have an angle grinder it can be used to quickly and easily cut hardware cloth.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

That makes sense!

If insulation is used below the roof sheathing, cold air must be able to flow between the insulation and the interior side of the roof sheathing (2 inch air space). You'll also need to have ventilated soffit and ventilated ridge vent. Or, you could put rigid insulation above the plywood roof sheathing and then heat and cool the attic or cathedral portion of the roof.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Yes I do have a ventilated roof assembly with baffles that provide a continuous space between my ventilated soffit and the ridge vent on the roof.

Lots of rockwool salesmen in your audience. Pink insulation is just fine, ignore the haters. Venting eliminates the mold issue, and the rest of the construction looks well thought out and executed so there should be no moisture problems.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks !

That r30 should probably be face out in the subfloor, the moisture would be hitting the insulation and not the barrier.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

3 күн бұрын

I want exactly sure, I was always told the paper should face the conditioned space but honestly for a crawlspace, I wonder if you should just use unfaced insulation.

@jamesmoore5511

2 күн бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy only in the floor u face it towards the ground because obviously the ground is a source of moisture, lay 8 mil plastic as a moisture barrier and you did yourself a favor

@mathew1003

2 күн бұрын

Code everywhere I have ever lived says kraft face goes towards conditioned space. I have been doing it like that for 25 years now.

Never use fiberglass insulation, OSB, non stainless staples. The floor insulation could become a rat hotel.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Time will tell

Spray foam it and forget the pink stuff. You won't need any of this extra steps for venting

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Have you ever diy spray foam insulation? I didn’t feel like paying someone for doing it.

Or cut the mesh with an angle grinder I k own it sounds like pushing in a thumb tack with a sledge hammer but just try it

@TheDIYCabinGuy

Күн бұрын

Next time I will

I learned alot... thank-you... ou merci si vous etes Acadien...

@TheDIYCabinGuy

24 күн бұрын

Merci! Et je suis français

Would like to see you do a "mini cabin" sauna build.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

3 ай бұрын

Sure would be nice !

My cathedral ceiling garage had r-13 faced insulation. The sheetrock starting falling off the ceiling with black mold everywhere. nightmare.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

16 күн бұрын

☹️ sounds awful

The insulation is put in backwards

@TheDIYCabinGuy

4 күн бұрын

😱

Use an angle grinder and cutoff wheel wayyyy faster cutting hardware cloth

@TheDIYCabinGuy

8 күн бұрын

Great point!

Heads up...I was renovating my home. I wasn't intending to touch the insulation. When I opened the walls all the fiberglass insulation, in the outside walls, was resting on the bottom 3 feet of the wall cavities. Fiberglass sucks. I had to replace all the outside wall insulation. I put rock wool back in it. This stopped my renovation for 2 years. I don't know if the fiberglass was installed wrong. The paper around the fiberglass was still stapled in the wall cavities..........If the fiberglass had gotten wet, I found no rot in the walls......

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Dang not a fun discovery !

whats with the waterproof thing around the electrical boxes and the sealant?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

4 ай бұрын

So that no air leaks though electrical boxes

How do the external walls deal with water? Looks like there are horizontal gaps of 1 or 2 inches every 8 to 12 inches? When it rains or snow or ice melts where does the water go?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

Ай бұрын

It’s just part of the siding, water would get on it, and then dry.

I'm starting to do my cabin ceiling also. I used Durovent (the egg carton style). If I'm using the vent, and fiberglass insulation and a vapor barrier and tongue and groove, what problem does the faced paper do at that point?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Im installing intello plus, it’s an air barrier and vapor barrier. According to the manufacturer, you’re not supposed to put faced insulation below that.

@navydave1

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy Cool. I'll have to look into that.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@navydave1 I guess because the intello plus is a smart vapor barrier, having Kraft paper below could mess with its properties and having it work properly.

Foam board makes an excellent air/ vapo/ insulation barrier....

@TheDIYCabinGuy

19 күн бұрын

Yes, I also thought about using that

@ronb6182

4 күн бұрын

Yes foam is better and fiberglass is a carcinogen. Enough said. 73

Other than cost why not use foam for the floor and walls then that insulation for the ceiling or would that have still been too much moisture if not adding a exhaust fan

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Just didn’t feel like paying someone to spray foam

@donaldstrickland8093

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy ok but what would have been the difference in it's cost just out of curiosity if you checked

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@donaldstrickland8093 that’s a great point! I actually didn’t even try to get a quote. You’re absolutely right, I could have saved myself a lot of time BUT I’m just stupidly stubborn and want to do everything myself 🤣

I've watched many videos on insulating the floor and many KZreadrs end up doing what you do: insulating from underneath. Why not put the wire mesh down when the floor joists are being installed and then fill the spaces between the joists before putting on the subfloor material? In other words, why does everyone work from underneath when they could drop the insulation down? Also, is there some kind of breathable material that can be put behind the screen to prevent the incursion of insects into the insulation?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

Ай бұрын

It’s a simple answer, If I did what you described, the insulation would have gotten wet and would have been completely trashed. You can’t really insulate until you’re dried in, meaning you have a roof on to keep the place dry.

Wouldn't Rock wool be better for the underside?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Not sure, some other people commented having issues with rodents even with rock wool

@COCCOMOJOE

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy I was thinking it was more for the fire, sound, and water retardant that rock wool offers. I'm not sure about the rodents.

Where can I get those baffles?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

I got these at lowes, they should be readily available in either lowes or Home Depot.

We used faced insulation for walls and ceiling. We only use the cabin for weekend or 3 day stays. Is the mold problem really something for us to consider before we tongue and groove the ceiling? Thanks for the heads up about it. Also, we never had a mice until we insulated.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

I would advise you to do some research about it, there are several posts on green advisor about this and then make an educated decision. Of course, from a cautious standpoint, It might be better to be safe than sorry. Another consensus is to install sheet rock (taped and floated) before installing the T&G, of course, one shouldn’t install a bunch of leaky can lights.

@stevebrockway4738

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy Thanks for the advice. Merci!

you need ftesh air in there

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 күн бұрын

I’m installing a HRV system in there

Bro you should of used bubble foil insulation and it would of been easy. I have it in ceiling walls and floor and love it.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Not sure that the inspector would have agreed with that. Not sure I could have gotten the required r30 in floor, r19 in walls and r38 in ceiling

@Grizzlife

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy I was an inspector for 20 years and approve this method I mentioned. Fiberglass insulation is a mouse home for the duration of the build. I’m not required to have inspections anyway so I see your point. The foil bubble wrap reflects heat on both sides and eliminates mouse houses. It works very well and to me meets all the R values plus more.

@Grizzlife

5 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKiM0ceyYbTgZqg.htmlsi=hgLaoFKveYftFugj

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@Grizzlife that’s very interesting but again, I really doubt the inspector would have approved. Seems like the actual values given by the manufacturer for bubble foil insulation are quite low. Doesn’t seem that I would have been able to get my r38 ceiling or r30 floor.

@builttofly83

19 сағат бұрын

I thought this was supposed to be a cabin build. Whay are inspectors involved?

You need to allow your soffit to vent out to the ridge. Pretty sure the blocking you installed would block the ventilation.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

As I mentioned in the video (probably hard to see), I left a 1.5-2in gap at the top of the blocking

At least where I am you have to have some venting over the soffit, you cannot seal it airtight

Wood stove?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Heat pump mini split. Wood stove would have been nice but since this cabin will be rented as an Airbnb, I don’t trust tenants making fires.

@diegoruiz7600

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy smart man😅 good luck! The cabin looks fantastic and very well built

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@diegoruiz7600 thanks 😀

Omg why all the extra steps just for baffels! All that was overkill. U dont even need but 1 baffel per run😂😂😂 u want the baffels to help the attic breath when the insulation is put in and you probably made it less efficient

@TheDIYCabinGuy

3 күн бұрын

It’s a closed cathedral ceiling, not an attic. For that reason, you absolutely need a continuous air path from the soffit to the ridge vent.

Great information but you are pronouncing Cathedral wrong. It's not Cath-dral. It is pronounced "kuh-thee-druhl"

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 күн бұрын

👍

You may have saved yourself a little misery installing Rock Wool insulation between the joists and eliminated the hardware cloth and stapling. Rock Wool is easier to install (no staples) and use tension wire rods between the joists to hold it in place. Though it is a bit more expensive than fiberglass the elimination of the hardware cloth and installation should balance out in my opinion. It’s also hated by insects (even termites) and rodents, including raccoons. My 2 cents…

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@ImTakinMeFishin

8 күн бұрын

We used Rockwool, the mice are living in it

@prestonthomas9406

7 күн бұрын

@@ImTakinMeFishin You may be the exception and not the rule…

Umm... Yeah, sooo... Don't do what this guy does, especially the baffels.. There is no need to put baffels all the way. This guy acts like he is some kind of authority on building but he only knows what Google and KZread showed him

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 күн бұрын

😂

@benjones3329

4 күн бұрын

domading2759 Actually, on a rafter type roof, i.e. not trusses. You do need the baffles to go all the way from bottom to top however, you need an opening at both ends to outside fresh air to allow cool air underneath roof deck to prevent ice dams

You shouldn't use fiberglass insulation in the first place! 😂

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Yes, could have use spray foam but didn’t feel like hiring someone for it

@chrisparker9886

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy Spray foam is even worse than fiberglass! 😳

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisparker9886 what would you have used that could have given me the appropriate R values I needed to achieve ?

@chrisparker9886

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy Rockwool

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisparker9886 not sure that R38C exist in rock wool or if it does, that it’s readily available

This is the most depressing ‘cabin’ build series on YT, to be frank. It’s so focused on code and the structure so overbuilt that it makes building a small cabin into a monumental task. It’s more like ‘DIY mimicking commercial contractors’, very soulless, modern and inaccessible. All the comments are people pretending there is some perfect way to do this or that activity, as if well maintained structures from almost any era can’t be wonderful cabins or homes.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

Interesting twist, well, if you want to pass inspections, you’ll need to get into the nitty gritty details of construction codes (structural, plumbing, electrical, hvac), and yes, building a cabin that has water and electricity is a monumental task. It sounds like you’d be more interested into off grid cabins where rules are not as important and people tend to do whatever they feel like.

@oregonNYC

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy yes, that defines a cabin. This seems to be a house in an semi/urban area, and subject to all the barriers and costs that plague our ability to develop housing. Maybe the algorithm doesn’t respond a ‘building a code compliant house in my yard’ in the same way it does to ‘cabin’.

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@oregonNYC I’m actually in the countryside away from all city rules, no HOA either, I’m only subject to the county but still have to abide to typical permitting, inspections and meeting code requirements. You’re correct that at this point, this becomes more like a house but I guess it depends what the definition of a cabin is. People here also call their cabin a 4,000 SF house in the mountains, cabin could also just be a non permitted small shed next to a river with no electricity or water…. The reality is that building a cabin/small house with utilities, no prior experience and mostly alone is a difficult endeavor that is not accessible to everybody. Sorry for the reality check… Just as a note, as I worked in commercial as well, I can assure you that commercial buildings are even more difficult, complex, full of red tape and rules to abide by. Residential (what my cabin is) is a joke compared to commercial.

@oregonNYC

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDIYCabinGuy I’m not trying to criticize your build or your efforts. You’ve obviously invested tons of time and it’s of value to film and share your process. What is depressing is how impossibly expensive and inaccessible housing is for average people as a result of this constant chasing of supposed perfection and code compliance (which will be totally different long before this structure ceases to be of value). I get why a multi/story apartment building in an urban area needs strict code, but a dude building a tiny home in his yard tripling cost and time to stay complaint is just awful. It’s an indictment of a sickness in our bureaucracy that has led to housing being inaccessible to so many.

@danrichards496

5 ай бұрын

He builds just like it do. You do not want ANY air movement. Air leaks bring moist air with it and causes mold and rot. Moisture also brings insects as a lot of them need moist places because their bodies don’t hold it in well. Do it right or don’t do it at all. It’s a cabin, not a lean to in the woods.

Why didn't you go with Rockwool insulation?

@TheDIYCabinGuy

5 ай бұрын

I’m not sure that rockwool makes R38C (compressed) which is what I needed for my ceiling. And if they do, it’s probably not readily available in my area. Also I think that rockwool is more expensive by 25-50% compared to fiberglass.

@lyntwo

5 ай бұрын

It is hard to obtain and usually must be purchased in pallet quantities. But, yes, a far superior product

Мы делаем это в начале, сверху.