How to DIY install 240V Level 2 Charger NEMA 14-50 for Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Kona/Ioniq or Chev Bolt?

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

I remade this video in 2020 to help more people in the EV community, not just #Nissan #Leaf
As a DIYer, I just want to help people who bought an EV without hiring an electrician. For me (and probably many other EV consumers), these are my goals:
(1) It charges the car
(2) It is safe and it doesn't burn the house down
(3) Family members don't get electrocuted
(4) It works until the lease ends/sell the vehicle
(5) Receptacle looks pretty and flush with the wall
(6) Air conditioning, dryer run at the same time while charging the car without tripping
If the installation satisfies all that, it's all that matters. Is it 100% up to those "by the book" code? Not sure and it's not my priority. I can understand why an electrician needs to follow every single rule because that's part of your job.
Personally, I don't agree with every single local code. In Canada, take Romex 14/2 for example, code says we have to use Romex NMD90 300V rated (thicker plastic insulation than U.S., 90 degree rated). In other words, we cannot buy cables from the States and use Romex NM-B 600V rated (paper sheath and thinner plastic insulation, 90 degree rated) because this will fail the inspection here. How can it be more dangerous to use NM-B in Toronto or to use NMD90 in New York for dry location, when we are on the same electric grid with 120V output and similar weather zone (4 feet frost line)? Please convince me with scientific lab data that this would be unsafe and dangerous, it would be appreciated.
Questions you may have:
Q: Will this work for 2019/2020 Leaf e-Plus?
A: According to the information from Nissan official site, it takes 8 hours for fully charged and 11.5 hours for e-Plus. I would assume Leaf e-Plus has the charger as the base model (30A output). In other words, they didn't change the 6.6 kW on-board charger for Type 2 AC charging. This has to be confirmed. If Leaf e-Plus has a more powerful charger or it upgraded the on-board charger, then 8 AWG and 40A breaker IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH but doesn't look like to be the case.
Q: Does this 14-50R work for Tesla?
A: Tesla Model 3, Model X, Model S comes with a "mobile charger" which is rated 32A uses 14-50. You can also buy the J1772 adapter. Yes that would work with 8/3 + 40A breaker. But it will NOT work if you install other Telsa Wall charger drawing more than 32A, you may need 6 AWG cable or even thicker cable. For example, Tesla Wall Connector requires 100A breaker and it draws 75A.
Q:Does this work for other EV besides Nissan Leaf?
A: For cars that supports universal SAE #J1772 connector with NEMA 14-50 plug, that should work, not limited to Hyundai Kona/Ioniq, Chevrolet Volt/Bolt EV, Hyundai Kona/Ioniq, Kia NIRO, Tesla, Toyota Prius Prime, BMW i3 and Honda Clarity
Q: What is NMD90? and what is NM-B?
A: It is a U.S vs Canada thingy. Most of these Romex cables are made by the same company Southwire in the States. But they name them differently and have slightly different spec. For example, NMD90 6/3 max amp = 65A but NM-B 6/3 max amp = 55A. The number 90 is temperature rating.
Q: How much rebate did you get from Ontario for the EV?
A: We got $14,000 CAD fro the government (Doug Ford cut this in 2018). In 2020, the rebate for Ontario is $5,000 CAD.
Q: Did you get installation rebate?
A: No, DIY Installation with no inspection so I am not eligible for rebate.
Q: Is this up to code?
A: Not sure, you tell me if I made any mistake and I will try to correct them.
Q: What is that grey color PVC conduit for?
A: It's 120V 20A 12 AWG THHN/T90 equivalent cables inside the conduit for my Lincoln 140 welder and my Evolution 12" concrete cutter.
Q: Do you need GFCI in garage?
A: Check your local code. In Ontario, it is not required for enclosed garage (carport is another story), but it is good to exceed code.
Q: Is main service panel 100 Amp good enough?
Yes, common sense. Just don't dry clothes (30A), turn on AC (30A), roast a turkey (40A) and charge the car (40A) at the same time! Since we use the timer to schedule the charging from 12AM-6AM, this is absolutely no necessary to upgrade to 200 Amp.
Q: Why do you have a sub panel?
A: This was a DIY project I did many years ago:
www.diyable.com/diy-240v-sub-p...
Related Products:
----------------------------
- Talon LGP1S 50-Amp Enclosed, Outdoor Rated, Receptacle
www.amazon.ca/Talon-LGP1S-Enc...
- Leviton 50 Amp Range Receptacle
www.homedepot.ca/product/levi...
- NuTek Airtight Range & Dryer Plastic Box
www.homedepot.ca/product/nute...
Disclaimer: This is for reference only, hire a licensed electrician if you are not comfortable. You can get killed or burn your house down if you do not know what you are doing. But I strongly recommend all the serious DIY people should do it themselves, then get inspected.

Пікірлер: 88

  • @DIYable
    @DIYable3 жыл бұрын

    Update and Sharing information: I have a friend who hired a master of electrician to do the installation for his Tesla Model Y. My friend's town house has 100A main panel. The guy installed a new 60A breaker and ran a 6-Gauge cable called "TECK90", this cable is amazing there is no need to use conduit, it's flexible, armored, waterproof and rated for direct buried. All you need is one single "TECK90" running all the way from the main panel the garage, it passed all the code and passed ESA inspection. Yes, you hear it right, 60A breaker on a 100A panel is actually fine according to the master of electrician!!!!! My friend set the Tesla wall charger to 48A, has been running it for at least half a year without any breaker tripping. For DIY people, I don't think you can find TECK90 in your local big box hardware store, you need to visit those electrical supply store or order them online. Hope this helps!

  • @willybrown6300
    @willybrown6300 Жыл бұрын

    Great job, thanks getting the Canadian info on wire size/type

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem 👍

  • @paddle_shift
    @paddle_shift3 жыл бұрын

    You are so right about KZread DIY on this type of installation. Not one had the breaker or Romex needed based upon the specs of your charger. Only yours did. God bless! Well done! I do disagree with your comment on what the manual says. If it says you need 50 amp, use a 50 amp. Don't give the automaker an excuse if something goes wrong and they find out you used an amperage below what was recommended.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, 50 amp is definitely better because in case you need to upgrade your car, you don't need to upgrade the cable and breaker in the future. Let's take Nissan Leaf aside for a second, a lot of charger for example Tesla wall charger, you can change the settings of the output max amp to 32A, 40A, 48A depends on your preference. Then, you can choose the proper circuit breaker 40A, 50A, 60A. www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/support/charging/Gen3_WallConnector_Installation_Manual.pdf

  • @Supernaut2000
    @Supernaut20002 жыл бұрын

    ProTip! When using/spraying foam insulation, do NOT touch it! Let it harden and then simply cut/scrape it away. Reason is that it will stick to everything and continues to expand! Let it dry and it's quick and easy to trim away.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are correct :)

  • @stevejordan7275
    @stevejordan72753 жыл бұрын

    Owned a 6,6 kW Leaf for a decade, done this in two houses already. This is a good explanation for anyone who's never done it before.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experience, this is definitely doable for DIYers.

  • @lordlukeatyoutubable
    @lordlukeatyoutubable3 жыл бұрын

    After 22 years in my house and running extension cables to power thing up in a detached garage, I finally got the balls to wire up my garage for 120VAC. Going up to 240VAC, I feel I'll need that drive again. Good vid; maybe watching it a few more times will give me that boost.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!!! Just be careful on every step you do. If you understand everything before you start, it should not be too difficult. Again, hire professional if you not comfortable.

  • @jakechung9295
    @jakechung92952 жыл бұрын

    Surely great video! Especially, the fact that you included the NEC code made me free search on my code book. On top of that, the comment you added about your friend case was so helpful for my decision. Actually, I have to figure out how much amperage of the service panel will be appropriate to my situation. Thanks again. You're my hero.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped. Yes, my friend's Tesla TECK90 can save you a lot of time and effort. Check out my other videos too, I don't just make videos for "entertainment", I seriously want to share knowledge to help people out there.

  • @DIYable
    @DIYable2 жыл бұрын

    I have a new EV related video published, check it out: How to make EV charging cable retractor and install extension cord for Tesla mobile charger? kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6dsrZeEm5O4iqg.html

  • @jimanddiana4103
    @jimanddiana41033 жыл бұрын

    Nice work. I like that the 240V breaker is GFCI, very helpful.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, GFCI is good for safety, because you will never know.... I had an incident where the garden hose burst and water splashed everywhere. The ONLY drawback is that, GFCI breakers are very expensive, even 120V 20A is expensive enough. 240V 40A is double the price of that.

  • @cfldriven
    @cfldriven2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I found this, got more specific info out of this video than all the other EV wiring videos put together. Nicely done.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @timmynguyen6121
    @timmynguyen61213 жыл бұрын

    I have the same car. Look sick tinted 👍. Thanks for informative video.

  • @Hawki777
    @Hawki7773 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I am going to get it done by electrician, but just for me to know what will be done is great to know.

  • @kyakukid1
    @kyakukid14 жыл бұрын

    The voice got me. Had to give a like to this video. Awesome work.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it... hope there are some good information can help!

  • @weigefans
    @weigefans4 жыл бұрын

    great video!!! but actually the manufacturer charger on the car was 32 AMP maximum, so basically I use it like a travel emergency one and bought a 40 amp one install at the garage. Anyways, great DIY video!!

  • @DIYable
    @DIYable4 жыл бұрын

    It is a remake of the video because there was some wrong information in the original one, I hope this would help the EV community who wants to DIY.

  • @ashrafc7794
    @ashrafc7794 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing vid. Learned a lot. Thanks

  • @f1176
    @f11763 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work. Thumb up.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!

  • @colinpovey2904
    @colinpovey29043 жыл бұрын

    Note that it is good practice to turn the power off and check ALL the screws in high current applications like this after 6-12 months of use. The large current draw can make the wire expand, loosening the connections. Which is NOT a good thing.

  • @keithharrington8715
    @keithharrington8715 Жыл бұрын

    As an electrical guy, I find many different videos inspiring for the home owners. Please, please, make sure you are doing it right. Many aspects of electrical work come into play with installing level 2 chargers. Calculations for your service (utility to house) wire size, wire size selection (normally limited to the 60 degree C column of the NEC chart) there is a seperate nec section for car charging that requires gfci protection for a car charging recepticle, where to drill holes in your joists to keep structural safety, and if your garage does not have the studs covered you might need conduit to protect the wires. So. Can a diy'er do the install, yes! Is there a lot to know, yes! Can you get the correct knowledge, I hope so! Take care, doing this one wrong could result in a fire that kills you car, garage, house, and maybe family.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comments, I totally agree with you. My advice to all DIY people reading this, please don't trust any KZreadrs, just use the videos for reference only. Do your own research before doing it. If in doubt, hire the professional.

  • @duanescooterhawthorne6509
    @duanescooterhawthorne65093 жыл бұрын

    Awesome job.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.. hope that helps

  • @forc3s646
    @forc3s6462 жыл бұрын

    Great Ontario Code Video, is it ok to use 6/3 Cooper wire with 40A breaker?

  • @mahdavimail
    @mahdavimail2 жыл бұрын

    with all that effort I would put #6 wire to be future proof. tnx for video

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is a totally valid statement. Just FYI... I have upgraded to a Tesla Model 3 recently and I DID NOT spent money on the "Tesla Wall Charger". I just use the "240V Tesla Mobile Charger" comes with the car which is rated at 32A @ 240V. Worth to notice, it doesn't matter which brand of car, most 240V Mobile Charger is rated 32A. It's fast enough to top up the battery for daily commute. In another words, if you plan to use the mobile charger (even switching from one car to another), 8 AWG is good enough. But yes, 6 AWG is future proof.

  • @MrSquareart
    @MrSquareart3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video!!!!!!!!

  • @walteralbayero3267
    @walteralbayero32673 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video thank u

  • @samaanalkhaldi2364
    @samaanalkhaldi23642 жыл бұрын

    Perfect 👌 👏👏

  • @junw3199
    @junw31993 жыл бұрын

    Could you please share what bit you are using to drill down through the studs at 4:19. Fantastic videos by the way...inspiring!

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's the similar installer bit kit I had, it's very handy to have it. I used it for running cat5 cables, PoE security cameras.. strongly recommended. www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-3-Piece-Flexible-Drill-Bit-Kit-53721/203913339

  • @junw3199

    @junw3199

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DIYable thank you kindly for taking the time to respond. I'll definitely looking to get one of these - as I have run into a few instances where this tool could have made my life much easier. Below is a Canadian link : ) www.homedepot.ca/product/klein-tools-flex-bit-kit/1000664025

  • @-rjw-1035
    @-rjw-1035 Жыл бұрын

    First, let me say, this is a top-notch video! I recently purchased a Bolt EV with a dual-level charger - I noticed the cradle/holder which you used to wall-mount your Nissan box - do you think it would work for my Bolt EVSE box (4"W; 2.1"D)? If so, do you know where might I buy it? Thank you! ...Would love to see a snow tire video on the Bolt EV?!

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    Жыл бұрын

    You may have to look for Bolt EV specific wall mount, Nissan one came with the charger.

  • @-rjw-1035

    @-rjw-1035

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DIYable - thx, cannot find one - will attempt to make one for myself (no 3D printer - just lumber scraps) - keep 'em coming, son!

  • @ytyjustin
    @ytyjustin2 жыл бұрын

    nice work !

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @zenornot9949
    @zenornot99498 ай бұрын

    Thank You

  • @EndUser-yu7gg
    @EndUser-yu7gg Жыл бұрын

    Nice Video ... I figured for future proofing an EV Charger being installed in the garage would be a good addition for potential renters to have that available ... I wouldn't put it outside purely because yeah ... imagine you go off and some random person comes to have you pay for charging their car on your dime... no... and would someone be one to do that? ... these days I wouldn't put it past some as some folks are seriously that frugal and have the twisted idea everything should be free or those of us with ability to own a home should be guilted into cutting people a break... to that I say ... no, actually these people should work smarter not harder and improve themselves vs waiting on someone else to do it

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! EV has become very popular, you are correct.. that is a good addition for potential renters.

  • @skateguy50
    @skateguy502 жыл бұрын

    great video, here in Massachusetts the only person other than an licensed electrician that can do wires is the home owner, so fi you are not confident and not doing it yourself don't have any old handy man type person do it. I just did this for my leaf and decided to run it at 50 amp incase I want to upgrade later for other vehicles. One note I would say is be sure to follow his table for wire to match the breaker. If you use 8/3 wire and just swamp to 50 amp breaker it is very unsafe as the point of the breaker is to be the weakest link. It was a lot more for 6/3 wire but if I ever want more amps my setup is ready for it. Cost me $500 just for the 125 ft roll of wire, unfortunately for me the break was at the opposite corner of the house in the basement so it till all 125' to pull my run. Also if you have enough amps on your breaker but not enough slots you can get narrow breakers that double up, much safer than running two wires to one breaker. I did this on a few switches to make room as we have a few 240 v systems taking a lot of space up. however its 200 amp total dont expect our electric oven, electric burners, and electric dryer to all be running around 2am-6am when the car will mostly be charging.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just to clarify, I was using 8/3 on 40A breaker. But 8/3 on 50A breaker is VERY dangerous. 6/3 on 50A breaker 6 Gauge with 50A is the best I have to agree. However, if you look at other EV manufactures in additional to Nissan, such as Ford or Tesla, their "240V mobile charger" comes with the vehicle are limited to 32A too. Most hardwired "wall charger" are 48A or above which exceeds the 14-50 spec at 50A, with 80% rule, you need 60A. BTW, recently I have made a video on Tesla mobile charger (32A), enjoy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6dsrZeEm5O4iqg.html

  • @skateguy50

    @skateguy50

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DIYable Yea, I'm looking at getting a Ford, Chevy, or Tesla truck in a few years as my next electric and just over built for future use incase they allow for a higher rate level 2 charging at that point.

  • @JetFeng
    @JetFeng3 жыл бұрын

    In USA the AC charge for a EV maximum is 240v 50A? About 12kW? In Europe I know it’s 22kW , thanks

  • @joseantonionolascojimenez4361
    @joseantonionolascojimenez43612 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to EV world

  • @robcormier6670
    @robcormier66703 жыл бұрын

    When wiring the outlet (when looking at the rear of the outlet), ground on top, neutral on bottom, does it matter which wire goes on the left then the right?

  • @i12flytoday

    @i12flytoday

    3 жыл бұрын

    No. That sounds simple, but it is, the answer is no. Both are split phase 120V legs and can be interchanged when wiring a 240v outlet. I know you have probably already found your answer, but I wanted to leave a comment anyway in case others had the same question.

  • @georgyporgy7051
    @georgyporgy7051 Жыл бұрын

    Why is there no home charger, is it safe to directly plug in to 240 outlet?

  • @-rjw-1035
    @-rjw-1035 Жыл бұрын

    How do you feel about 8A vs 12A charging on a 15A, 120V circuit? So far, I've just been using the default, 8A setting.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    Жыл бұрын

    It's extremely slow honestly with 120V 15A.... it depends on how often you use the car, you may or may not have enough range. My friend has a Chev Bolt EV and he has been using 120V 15A for 1 year without issue, notice that he has been working from home. So it really really depends on a lot of factors, like your daily commute distance or routine.

  • @-rjw-1035

    @-rjw-1035

    Жыл бұрын

    @DIYable - thx - I should have been more specific - I meant in terms of efficiency? and safety? (not speed). Bolt charger/EVSE provides 2 choices at 120V, 8A or 12A only.

  • @ecker21
    @ecker213 жыл бұрын

    Where did you find your charger? I can't seem to find one anywhere...

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    3 жыл бұрын

    It comes with the car in the trunk...

  • @electriciantv5174
    @electriciantv51742 жыл бұрын

    As an electrician I’ll say there is no reason to bond that box. However it may be NEC code. I don’t believe it is CSA code though.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you referring to NEC 250.24(A)(5) at 8:40 in the video? I didn't bond that sub panel. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6uYzLl-hpvah6Q.html

  • @electriciantv5174

    @electriciantv5174

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DIYable I was referring to the plastic box that you put the 50 amp 125/250 plug

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@electriciantv5174 That's a very good point, indeed!!!

  • @electriciantv5174

    @electriciantv5174

    2 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video though

  • @kwrzesien17
    @kwrzesien172 жыл бұрын

    Word of warning: US Code says if you install a 50A wall socket you must use 50A rated cable and a 50A breaker. So 6/3 for 220V “oven” type connections. Almost all 40A EVSE’s are hardwired type for this reason, there is no 40A plug/socket standard. True that the Leaf system is only 32A, but someone else could come along with a 40A system and burn the house down.

  • @kwrzesien17

    @kwrzesien17

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tldr: Use 6/3 cable

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    If someone comes along with a 40A system, my 40A breaker will trip and protect my house. Even if you have 50A with 6/3, say someone bring a 85A telsa charging system (assuming it is able to plug it into 14-50), your 50A breaker will trip to protect your house too.

  • @kwrzesien17

    @kwrzesien17

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DIYable I get what you are saying, but a Tesla charger has to be hard-wired. I guess the question is whether it’s code to use a 50A socket on a 40A system, and is there any situation that would put the wire at risk. Because technically a constant 40A draw won’t trip the breaker but could melt the wire. And 50A EVSE will allow a constant 40A draw. I was interested in this because I have a hard-wired Blink 100HQ on 8-2 wire and 40A breaker that I installed, and now the wife asked me to move to the other side of the garage. It ended up being a moot point, the run was too short and I bought new 6-3 Romex, 50A socket and a pigtail for the Blink.

  • @kwrzesien17

    @kwrzesien17

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m leaving it on the 40A breaker to protect the Blink.

  • @spyhunter99
    @spyhunter993 жыл бұрын

    love your videos, but get yourself a better tripod

  • @poundermonster
    @poundermonster2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 14 bmw i3, I’m going to install a 240v in my garage with a 40 amp breaker, a 32 amp receptacle, with 8 gauge wiring so I can charge my car, I’m I on the right path?

  • @keithharrington8715

    @keithharrington8715

    Жыл бұрын

    Please talk with your local building department or local electrician. Code can vary from building department to building department (nec 90.4) and the NEC may not apply to your job, your area. Also, the pros see these every day and may have a solution for a problem you did not know you had.

  • @cooldadyo
    @cooldadyo2 жыл бұрын

    Paid $700 had it installed by a professional company which included all the parts and a lifetime warranty 😎

  • @darktipper13

    @darktipper13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! I was thinking about doing that too. Did they take a long time? What was the whole process like?

  • @kambal8491
    @kambal84913 жыл бұрын

    Is the nema 14 50 compatible to bmw i3 for home charging?

  • @JSmith-wy3yh

    @JSmith-wy3yh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Compatible to all EVs

  • @terryvanwhy1404
    @terryvanwhy14042 жыл бұрын

    In US 8 gauge thhn wire also supports 55 amps. Must be thhn for 55 amps.

  • @garydailey809

    @garydailey809

    2 жыл бұрын

    #8 gauge supports 55 amps at 90°C, but how about the other components ? The Hubbell 14-50 receptacle is only rated to 75°C. Better to use 6 AWG.

  • @keithharrington8715

    @keithharrington8715

    Жыл бұрын

    If you are talking code, NEC 110.14 for terminal connections talks about breakers less than 100 amps are normally rated for 60 degrees c. This means the wiretap connects to it must use the 60 degree C rating no matter the insulation....thhn, thwn, romex, etc....at the 60 degree C rating.

  • @Anime1986X
    @Anime1986X2 жыл бұрын

    Using the wrong receptacle you should be using industrial grade Plug.

  • @rafars2246
    @rafars22462 жыл бұрын

    "50 Amp not necessary..." C'mon man...Why would you risk years of operation over few bucks?

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, yes and no... you are correct, 6 Gauge with 50A is better generally speaking. However, if you look at other EV manufactures in additional to Nissan, such as Ford or Tesla, their "240V mobile charger" comes with the vehicle are limited to 32A too. Most hardwired "wall charger" are 48A or above which exceeds the 14-50 spec at 50A, with 80% rule, you need 60A. I have made a video on Tesla mobile charger (32A), enjoy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6dsrZeEm5O4iqg.html

  • @rafars2246

    @rafars2246

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DIYable I haven't expressed any rule, but true, I'll go to 60amps or even higher. Don't want to do that work twice.

  • @DIYable

    @DIYable

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rafars2246 Totally understand and your point is valid, if I had 200A service panel, I would definitely go with 60A too.

Келесі