I had such high hopes for M.O.M and was really disappointed to what they did to my boy Patrick Stewart! Thanks to Disney, all they do in their Marvel projects is just bait and switch, and if it’s bad, they blame us! Sometimes I feel thankful that Sony owns the rights to Spideman instead of Disney. We probably would’ve never had Spiderverse if that never happened!

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Me too Sony has been pretty good about Spider-Man

@Frosty_MC

Жыл бұрын

i find it very funny it looks like Mom

@postuh.

Жыл бұрын

i love my mom

@haidergoraya3098

Жыл бұрын

@@postuh. i respect your opinion

@rexosaurus3610

Жыл бұрын

Hey, give your mom a break, she works very hard for you.

A little thing that I appreciate about spider verse is that the lives and settings of alternate universes are treated with just as much respect and value as the 'main' universe. In Mumbattan, there's a scene where a building falls and threatens to flatten the cityscape below it. They could've just had it be a scene where we watch a city get flattened for dramatic effect while the characters watch, but instead they immediately scramble to stop the falling building and rescue people in its path. Even in an alternate universe, the people living there are treated with respect and everyone, even Miles does everything in their power to save them. It adds weight to the situation and even gives Miles a moment to feel proud of doing the right thing for people he's never met. That's one of my problems with Multiverse of Madness, the alternate universes just felt like setpieces that they could use to destroy things and kill off characters with no consequences to the main character.

@ItSquishy

11 ай бұрын

good observation

I watched both movies in theaters as they released, and if I'm being honest, I forgot M.O.M existed. It just feels so dull and lifeless compared to the masterpiece that ATSV is. ATSV fleshes the idea so much better, while still having a great story and characters; and don't even get me started on ATSV's styles. I'd say watching M.O.M in theaters wasn't worth it, but watching ATSV was an amazing experience that I'd recommend to everyone.

@hazit234

Жыл бұрын

I compleatly forgot about M.O.M to, its just so bland and it doesn't really change anything except you get some cameos.

@ddnava96

Жыл бұрын

I watched ATSV in theaters TWICE

@ddnava96

Жыл бұрын

Also, in MOM, Wanda could've done what Miguel did and find a universe where she dies instead of having to kill another version of her. In fact, when I watched MOM I couldn't NOT think about that. It was just an easy solution that wouldn't involve killing anyone

@loganshaw4527

Жыл бұрын

In a universe where everyone is dumb and you are the smartest man. Is it that much of a achievement? Reed Richard was soooo dumb.

@Goinmach8

Жыл бұрын

Same lol

I think another parallel is how they balanced character stories. MOM felt more like a Wanda movie with dr strange tagging along, like strange gets his development but it’s less impactful cuz it feels like a side story to other ppls adventures. I’d say spiderverse 2 managed to all the important characters equal weight, them being miles, gwen , and Miguel. Like somehow each character’s personal story just weaves seamlessly with eachother and bolsters the main conflict

@avidagamegerl1081

Жыл бұрын

Funny how MOM makes Doctor Strange feel like a side character when he’s literally in the title of the movie

@ayrtonpietrobelli6972

Жыл бұрын

in all stories your side plot should reinforce the message of the main plot; Boo Radley in TKAM is the most notable example.

@jjh2472

Жыл бұрын

@ayrtonpietrobelli6972 What does TKAM stand for?

@Del-Dokan

Жыл бұрын

@@jjh2472 To Kill A Mockingbird

funny how there was more multiversal madness in a spider-man movie than in the film titled “multiverse of madness”

from what ive seen from the concept art, and from what ive heard about what sam raimi was planning, i think this is a good example of a studio interfering with a directors vision for a movie (because that definitely always makes the movie a big success for the studio.) sam is such a good director, but if they werent gonna let him fufill his vision for the project, they really shouldn't have brought him on (as if they brought him on for more than just to have a big name director on the project)

@segevstormlord3713

Жыл бұрын

I would be interested in what the concept art and what you've heard about Raimi's plans leads you to believe the movie would have been if Raimi had had everything he needed and wanted to make the movie everything he wanted it to be. What would've been different? What did we miss out on?

@yukimistay

Жыл бұрын

@segevstormlord3713 well I don't remember alot, but I do remember off the top of my head that originally Wanda wasn't going to be the villain, and the one piece of concept art I remember shows dr strange, Wong, and wanda in a desert filled with what I think was dead versions of Dr strange

@PengyDraws

Жыл бұрын

Do studios interfere with a director's vision and that causes them to lose money, or do they interfere with a director's vision because it's already shitty and they attempt to fix it? This is something I'm never sure about when it comes to any given truly atrocious film.

@segevstormlord3713

Жыл бұрын

@@PengyDraws It varies. Sometimes the artist being left to his freedom will make the bestest thing ever. Sometimes, he really, really needs an editor, or a studio to come in and put constraints on him that force him to exercise his creativity. Others, his vision is great, and the studio's limitations are reasonable or creativity-inducing, and his ideas get better. Often, we assume his vision was great but the studio ruined it, and that probably happens _a lot._ But then there's the possibility his vision was stupid and the studio's interference was a different kind of stupid and it all compounded into an atrocious mess. Studio intervention can help or can hurt. Directors and writers can have great stuff that you shouldn't mess with, or could have a rough gem that needs refining, or could have garbage that a studio can force into being palatable. The difficulty for everyone involved in the process is figuring out who's right about whether THEIR vision, THEIR demands, will make things better or worse.

i really do hate when a movie neglects its characters. characters TELL the story. they need to feel human and be interesting instead of just feeling like a catalyst for the plot. M.O.M takes already established characters and throws them in the garbage while introducing new characters that have no substance. i really wanted M.O.M to be good because i really loved the first dr. strange film. on the flip side, hobie brown and pavtir prabhakar in ATSV both had WAY more impact and substance and they got barely any screentime. ATSV also builds upon already established characters. for example, peter b parker mending his relationship with MJ and having a child together because of miles not only develops peter, but gives us more of a reason to believe miles is a real hero

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

@gemof_gems

Жыл бұрын

This, This comment , mfkers in MCU needs to read your comment and plaster it in their walls . Especially Kevin Feige . They used to be independent stories but now it's all a mess .

@gemof_gems

Жыл бұрын

That's true , Dr.Strange is such a great Character with so much potential and mind-blowing stories and they ruined it for gimmicks .

The difference between them is one of them is animated and has complete freedom to express itself in whatever artistic way it needs to be in order to tell a heartfelt and entertaining story made with love and passion... while the other is limited to CGI effects that are required to look "realistic" to fit the live action style, was made entirely for the sake of making money, and can't push the limits because "realistic" CGI effects are really really expensive. It has to conform to real life limitations that you don't need to worry about when making a stylized animated movie... not to mention the MCU's terrible writing streak they've been going through lately.

@edmundpunwpe

Жыл бұрын

everything everywhere all at once was still a live action multiverse movie and perfectly executed the potentials of the multiverse-and all the effects were only done by a handful of animators.

@theojjuiceisloose

Жыл бұрын

nah has nothing to do with being animated vs live action. the story sucks for mom, horrible writing, retcons of already established canon, character assassination, i mean i could go on and on. if the ATSV team animated MOM instead it would have been just as awful as the live action because the movie just was so poorly written. (just an edit: i know at the end of your comment you say that the story was bad im just expanding on that more needlessly because MOM makes me feel very despondent)

@dionysus6906

Жыл бұрын

With how much CGI was in that movie it might as well have been animated

@lasercraft32

Жыл бұрын

@@dionysus6906 True. XP

@fanimation617

Жыл бұрын

@@dionysus6906yeah, some of that shit looks like premade assets

I think the funny thing about the MCU's attempt at multiversal stuff, is that the Loki show did it better than M.O.M. It introduced the concept of there being multiple versions of a character and how they all interacted with each other. so they can do it, but the flubbed it a little with Dr strange.

Mom feels like a idea, which was never put into practice. And it just sticks to the generic stuff. So not really a "Madness"

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed

@haidergoraya3098

Жыл бұрын

It was more like Midness

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

@@haidergoraya3098 lol true

@nightfall4434

Жыл бұрын

The thing is… the plot wasn’t actually tied to the multiverse. If you’re going to make a multiverse maybe form the story around it. ATSV did that with the canon events and showed why the multiverse needed to be present in the movie- to show how Miles was different from the other spider-people. In MOM it was just “oh no Wanda is chasing us watch out” “uh oh she beat up the Illuminati” (which also had no reason to exist)

Im pretty sure a lot of people got blindsided because for one "Multiverse" is already such a deep and complicated concept. People expect the 'Multi' aspect. Not some small premise and snippets of these characters. Second, "Madness" is another heavy word to follow that. You expect your mind to be overwhelmed. They knew what they wanted to sell and underdelivered because they set plot goals in mind for almost everyone except the main character--establish the new hero Chavez and for her to win, Wanda becomes powerful, fanservice these other heroes, etc. They care about their roadmap and not independent stories. It was barely his movie.

That’s part of the beauty of animation. Making 3 distinct places that are still based on NY would be incredibly difficult in live action. It calls for practically building individual cities for each one or a ton of post production. Reasons why it’s stupid when people think animation is only for kids because you’re cutting of so many creative possibilities

spiderman across the multiverse:normal spiderman,spider gwen,spider car,spider dinossaur and etc doctor strange across the multiverse: oh yes lovely, benedict cumberbatch. And look! More benedict cumberbatch.

Why is spider man the only super hero who can successfully do a multiverse plot?

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

You would think it wouldn’t translate well but here we are lol

@birdmoney

Жыл бұрын

​@@miczilla_Spider-Man is an icon and we can all relate to him in one way or another. He is a survivor of trauma. And seeing him with multiple versions of himself makes us happy

@mikubrot

Жыл бұрын

spiderman has one of- if not the most variants of the classic superheroes. And he's cool because in most stories, he's just a random guy who had powers thrust upon them. He super fun and relatable to so many people making the ideas presented in both spiderverse movies work so well

@cubism_2

Жыл бұрын

If you ask me, any concept can work with any character as long as the writers know what they're doing

@frog6054

Жыл бұрын

I think it's because Spiderman has more passionate people that wanted to create a great story about him.

For a movie called "Multiverse of Madness," they could've had a lot of fun establishing 2-4 different "other" universes, and then had major plot beats in each of them, with the collapse that is being caused by the dreamwalker being represented by elements of those different multiverses crossing over with each other, merging together, and half the time only the main characters even notice something is wrong. (See the Doctor Who episode where River averts a fixed point and you wind up with Caesar Winston Churchill riding maglev trains through pyramids for rough inspiration.) Maybe have Professor X offering to take America in...in MCU's prime universe. With some initial "Who are you?" "Well, I've never heard of you." "Then you've been living under a rock" sort of exchanges between the famous School for the Gifted and the Khamertaj sets. Play that up as a nod to the fourth wall while pretending they've always been together, then reveal that this was the first sign of imminent collapse because the School for the Gifted is from another universe. Maybe even hold off on the reveal of who the villain is long enough to make it seem like America is, herself, responsible for the collisions, and only with the reveal of the villain do they get to the 2-3 other plot points in other universes. Reveal PRof. X's universe is already gone, and have the closest he can come be arriving in the Illuminati 'verse, where he's mistaken for their Prof. X before they discover that the villain's already killed him. Maybe the tower of the Darkhold is in an intersticial space that can't be reached and can't exist without breaking down universal boundaries, so in the collided universe is where we start seeing pieces of its presence. The whole "Collapse the Universes" plot was a ploy to gain access to the Darkhold's primal form as much as anything else. Maybe the book version is destroyed just as early or earlier, prompting the need for this. In any event, tie the multiverse concept in to the Darkhold being cordoned off. And don't make the macguffin "good book" do nothing/be destroyed/lost like that. Maybe hint it exists but leave it vague whetehr it is real or not. Leave that, perhaps, as a plot for the Eternals to handle in a movie where they're helping fight to resolve the problems set up in this one.

@isaiaholaru5013

Жыл бұрын

This is a good idea And Marvel could do with people like you

@bullylowenthal2683

Жыл бұрын

Where did the trailers promise you to explore all universes

@segevstormlord3713

Жыл бұрын

@@bullylowenthal2683 They didn't. My comment doesn't suggest they did. My comment was a thought on one way the movie could have been improved, and done better to live up to its title.

@bullylowenthal2683

Жыл бұрын

@@segevstormlord3713 If I had a dime everytime I heard the same generic logic I heard from people like you. I'd be able to buy a Lamborghini I've heard it so many times and it's your scapegoat

@GabesEdtiz

10 ай бұрын

You single-handedly created a much better plot and concept than the actual professional writers who were paid to write the movie.

The thumbnail is the chad vs virgin meme. The Virgin MOM vs the Chad ATSV

@corcortinez5361

Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for someone to point that out

I kind of shot myself in the foot when I went to see dr.strange. I went to see everything everywhere all at once the day before I went to see dr.strange. and I ended up finding myself comparing the two movies. And It made me realize that dr.strange didn't really do much with the multiverse while everything everywhere all at once is showing all this crazy weird wacky multiverse and I absolutely loved every single multiverse they showed.

What I love about ATSV is that every universe feel special and unique. MOM meanwhile felt more like Phineas and Ferb across the second dimension.

@paigecrouch3106

Жыл бұрын

How dare you Phineas and Ferb across the second dimension was a great movie and I will not take such slander

@ZorrotheArtist

Жыл бұрын

Difference is that Across The Second Dimension was actually good, had a good story and the jokes were actually funny. “D’oh, I don’t want your stupid pamphlet!”

i think it also shows in the memes that came from each movie. the main meme from MOM was the “what mouth” bit, whereas the big meme from ATSV was the “canon event” line. it goes to show how unique and fascinating the concepts introduced by ATSV were, and how they managed to stick with audiences long after the movie ended. compare this with MOM, which didn’t really introduce much with the introduction of the multiverse

The best parts of M.O.M. were the clearly Sam Raimi parts such as the predator chase Wanda scene, the music battle, or the Zombie Strange sequence. It's clear Disney's Marvel has become too creatively bankrupt with the corporate mandates as it seems they run on a formula instead of creative ideas. ATSV is a masterpiece because of the love to the source material and the synergy it has with different creative visions coming into one. Different artists, interpretations, artistic techniques are used simultaneous to tell the story which feels right for a comic book movie. Marvel used to be good at character writing but now even that is hit or miss, they've always had problems from a visual standpoint and its finally catching up with them as their stories become more bland.

@isaacjohnson8796

Жыл бұрын

Im sorry but none of those scenes were good. The wanda chase scene has Wanda forget almost all of her powers to keep the story going while Strange and Co. expect closing some doors will stop her and stand around. The music scene was just dumb cringe and the zombie stuff was nonsensical.

@nightfall4434

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacjohnson8796yeah and there was one part where they decided to stare at the door they shut like “oh is Wanda going to get through I don’t know we better check instead of run” and it ended up being a mindless jump scare. I remember that scene took FOREVER just waiting for wanda to inevitably pop out, which ruined the tension completely

To be fair, M.O.M was limited by the fact that it’s a live action movie, while ATS was animated, leading to a ridiculous difference in limitations on what’s possible with the concept of a different universe. One can simply be drawn, while the other has to be, well, real(even if it is 99% green screen)

@venusgin7779

Жыл бұрын

I agree that live-action has a lot of limitations, but so does animation. You have to MAKE everything that you see in animation and it can be overwhelming. Also, look at old star wars movies or any of the old scifi/fantasy movies that use PROPS and not rushed CGI. I mean look at Guillermo deo Toro’s Pinocchio, it’s stop-motion animation, all of that was HANDMADE, all of those effects would be semi-achievable even if you replaced the puppet characters with real people. It’s just that story isn’t imaginative. The characters are bland. It’s soulless corporate cash grab that kills its creative team (ATSV has its own issues with overtime and overwork of their team, but even then it’s so much better than the industry standard which is horrific to me)

@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior

Жыл бұрын

Cough cough - Everything Everywhere All at Once - lower budget - cough cough

@geralfol117

Жыл бұрын

Live action is not an excuse for a multiverse movie since EEAAO achieved it with only a fraction of the average budget of disney movies

@MikoyanGurevichMiG21

Жыл бұрын

If you watched ATSV, you would know there's some live action in it too.

I forgot MOM existed and when you talked about the Illuminati I was like "oh sht thats right that was actually a part of the story", and that goes for pretty much around every part of MOM's story, I really don't remember a THING except maybe the zombie sequence at the end. However, ATSV's story and visual designs have seriously dragged me in and I can't get them out of my head, I don't think I'll be forgetting that movie anytime soon. (Which definitely will be helped by my future trips of probably watching it a few more times just cause it's THAT good)

We weren’t excited so much with just the idea of the multiverse, but what they would do with it, characters just exist and stories don’t do anything with them except they live and now they die

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

Great video but I can’t believe you touched on the different universes in Across the Spiderverse and did not mention how GORGEOUS Gwen’s Universe was with all the water colors and ever changing backgrounds!

you have a really comprehension of what makes a multiverse story good i would be interested to hear your thoughts on Everything Everywhere All at Once, also this video is totally going to blow up

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much and honestly a video like that would be interesting ill keep that in mind

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

This comment made my day thanks

EEAAO also had a great multiverse

Just realised multiverse of madness is about a mother and when you use the first letters of the title it’s MOM wonder if they meant to do that

Also the illmentanuti(or whatever their called) doesn't hold up because we were already introduced to a similar council of Multiversal people in Loki. I personally think Loki(for a live action show) did pretty good.

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah i liked loki

Did anyone notice in into the spiderverse when Aaron dies it’s the same theme that plays at the end of across the spiderverse during the credits?

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

I did not thats super cool

multiverse of madness was the first movie i watched in theaters and left bc i was bored. you'd think it's pretty hard to take established characters that audiences know about (or of) and introduce such an interesting concept like the multiverse and completely fall flat in making something at least watchable but the mcu did it ! when will they realize that general audiences don't want a movie that is heavy on continuing some long running story at the expense of making a good standalone film. that's why into the spiderverse was better than across the spiderverse don't @ me you know that cliffhanger was bullshit

@gemof_gems

Жыл бұрын

Exactly , that cliffhanger was some CW show schmick lmaoo

babe wake up miczilla posted

I'm actually planning to write a multiverse story myself. Though, it's a little different from the way Spiderverse handles it, with there being variations of the same character, Spiderman. I'm more for when multiverse create new and unique characters that don't really have any universal relation to one another. But still, I like Spiderverse, and I agree with everything you said here. Build up to it, play with the concept, don't be so limited, and try to be different from our own familiar universe. Which thankfully I'm doing/working on. Though, I have not created a secret society among the universes in my story (It could still happen, the story is still in its early stages).

I noticed how tired I was of marvels multiverse but how much I loved spiderverse I saw three times in theaters and I never want to see mom again even though I was so excited for it at first

ATSV feels like a story that could only be told with the multiverse. MOM feels like it could've been told without it tbh.

Across the Spider-Verse was SPECTACULAR!!!

man, it's so weird to see Jim from The Office be in a marvel movie. i'm glad he managed to get into one, but i still only think of Jim when i see him lol.

The first doctor strange movie was probably my favorite MCU movie, so I had really high hopes for it’s sequel, and I was so let down by it that I haven’t gone to the theaters to see an MCU movie since

"Stoick and kind of sassy" perfectly fits SO many characters in the MCU

This is an amazing miczilla video

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

tbh most of what I liked of M.O.M. is wanda's story which made it feel like wandavision 2 :/

omg this was such a great video !! i like your music choices and every take was a W also cutting from ATSV, a bright and colorful movie, to MOM, a tan and brown and gray movie, was jarring 💀

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Wow thanks you made my day, cool pfp!

great video. well edited and strong points

Now one big factor is that one is live action movie and the other is animated The only way to have something like atsv is like having an another endgame with a lot of caracters and you need more money for that That why i hate live action

The sonic colours music is so good 👌

5:39 Dr. Strange: “Nah, Imma do my own thing”

legit only think I liked about Multiverse of Madness was the star multiverse travel concept, looks cool.

Sonic colours music at the background… awesome 😁

Love the sonic colors background music

2:58 - 3:08 is my exact feelings about Howl's Moving Castle

I had to stop n jam to the one sonic colors dessert song for a second 💀

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Nah I feel you sonic colors songs are a bop

i think one reason it didn't work as well in Dr. Strange 2 is because it's live-action, whereas spider-verse was able to utilize animation literally make everything look different. the vulture at the start has a cool papercraft aesthetic, and we see that apply to his dimension in the brief section of it we see. we never see Hobie's universe, but his character model constantly changes around, and it looks cool af. but of course (as always), the real enemy is corporate ownership and hatred of cooperation. All the film rights for marvel's IPs are scattered across half a dozen (or more) companies, so disney just couldn't utilize everyone as well as spider-verse did due to that. your points are great though, and i think the 2 aspects i listed only minimally impacted it.

Well hopefully Doctor Strange 3 will redeem M.O.M and luckily every other MCU projects have gotten a writer's strike so there's still hope !!!!!!

@svftystrange

Жыл бұрын

and get the original director to return

Even if one were to say "oh ATSV is only good cause its animated, they couldnt do that if it were live action" it's just a blatant lie Everything Everywhere All At Once is live action and also has an AMAZING representation of the multi-verse that rivals ATSV honestly

Off topic but I loved that you used Sonic Colors music in the background. I wasn't sure about which game until the Sweet Mountain track started about halfway through

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Haha yes that game is everything to me, and the ost is amazing

I don’t think I get what you are saying beyond MoM not being “out there” enough. MoMs problem has always been that the film had no focus in its narrative. It was part about that weird girl being hunted through a few multiverses, part about Wanda wanting her kids and then part about Strange dealing with his delusions of grandeur. With all three plot lines getting equal amounts of attention but neither of which being told in one piece, so they compete for screen time all together at once. Spider-verse 2 was a lot more focused in comparison. First it’s about Miles feeling lonely, then it’s about him wanting to join the Spider society and then it’s about him trying to escape the Spider society to save his dad.

2:38 you mean “antithesis” not “antipathy.” Gotta proofread them scripts!

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

My mistake

Nice video! You seriously have a lot of potential my friend! I wish you great amounts of happiness and success! 😃

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I really enjoy multiverse of madness

@svftystrange

Жыл бұрын

same

Multiverse in Across the Spiderverse: An entire Spider Society involved with keeping the timelines in their canon events, even at the expense of the happiness of the Spider people. Multiverse in Multiverse of Madness: *pIzZa BiTeS*

Can i add one thing to the Illuminati vs Spidemen bit? The characters in Spiderverse properly react to eachother, be it Pav immediately making his presence known, reaction to the tension between Gwen and Miles, Interacting with them both, Hobie teaching Miles about using his Palm, something he'll hint at miles later, since he had an idea on how Miles Conversation witb Miguel might go, Miguel's reaction to Hobie disrupting him every chance he gets, Miguel's disappointment immediately shifting to Gwen when he's tossing blame etc. The list goes on. Compared to that, the Illuminati tend to just, not do that? Like, when Reed and BB dies, they have the shocked expressions, but no anger or anything, back to their sas after a small gasp, jusf the definition of " oh no! Anyways." MOM doesnt feel like characters, just cameos for the sake of cameos.

Good video.

the biggest difference between these two is the availability. MoM relies on their cameos to the point that the movie is completely empty if the viewer doesn't know who they are. spiderverse actually puts effort into the plot and is fun to watch even if (like me) you have no idea who any of the spiders in the background are. it's like trying to build an entire movie off of easter eggs

@bullylowenthal2683

Жыл бұрын

No the movie didn't promise you on a lot cameos. You guys chose to believe in rumors that weren't confirmed and pitting 2 different movies against each other which are completely different. You guys had unrealistic expectations

@slime-time

Жыл бұрын

@@bullylowenthal2683 ??? the cameos were the PROBLEM, i'm not asking for more of them.

@bullylowenthal2683

Жыл бұрын

@@slime-time You weren't owed anything

@slime-time

Жыл бұрын

@@bullylowenthal2683 again, I know that. I never said it did. I think you're just missing the point 💀

@bullylowenthal2683

Жыл бұрын

@@slime-time Not really you just don't like the answer I gave you since it doesn't help you 💀

in my opinion these movies are simply incomparable

cool video man!

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video on why Spider-Verse really did utilize peak ideas Also everyone abbreviating multiverse of madness to “MOM” is pretty funny

M.O.M. more like MOM

i like the multiverse of madness.

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Thats cool

@NS-xx1ze

Жыл бұрын

​@@miczilla_same

@judemanr7814

Жыл бұрын

Good for you

Spiderverse even made fun of Doctor Strange in ASTV

I think the most disappointing aspect of M.O.M is that it came out so shortly after Everything Everywhere All At Once, a movie that blew the multiverse concept out of the water. We saw how good the multiverse could be before M.O.M, yet M.O.M still instantly dropped the ball

Illumanti dying: lmao professor x head go snappy snap Pav’s world possibly collapsing: Oh god no don’t let my boy’s world die he’s such a sweet and fun Spider-Man who loves chai and his girlfriend oh no

MOM was like Into the spider verse, but swap kingpin with Wanda. Same thing, just different ending, minus the collider/science. P.s.: I liked that in MOM, in most universes food was free and we are the backwards ones on earth 19999...

The one thing I remember about Multiverse of Madness is me holding my pee for a whole hour, it hurt A LOT

ATSV: Multiverse is a storytelling tool Marvel: Multiverse is a money making tool

I must be the only one that enjoyed both

@svftystrange

Жыл бұрын

no you’re not the only one

i saw the "M.O.M. V." and read it as mommy lol

I love your video essay, on this because you spoke only the truth also, you were right Spider-Man across the spider verse, utilized the multi-verse concept went all out while Doctor Strange it didn’t go all up only went like 30% into it. Also, I didn’t like how how they brought Doctor Strange ex because it really didn’t add anything to the story the same thing with venom let there be Carnage and I keep him bring it back past love interest, but it doesn’t add any value nor helps push the plot I feel like strange, so they just moved on because her screen time could’ve been replace with it, expand upon the multi-verse or something that adds value to the story. Before I go, I want to leave you with this. On blackest night you let the light of the moon guide you to the very thing you love you doing never give up don’t let anyone get in the way Have a nice day. Stay safe and enjoy life

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughtful message and i agree with what you mean

The thing though is Spider-Man 2099 mentions the “annoying Doctor Strange and little nerd from Earth-199999” (the mcu earth) tells us that all problems and faults that mcu's Multi-verse are now permanently tied to ATSV, so that sucks

I feel like the creatives behind across the spiderverse are setting up to say something about Spider-Man that is profound that can only really be done with really good writing. Disney only really cares about churning out a few marvel movies every few years without any care, passion or love behind them.

ATSV is one of if not maybe my fav movie ever now I am obsessed. I liked ITSV but ATSV I just love idk I just think it was so much better.

It's funny because ATSV felt more like a thematic sequel to No Way Home than MoM does. NWH ended with Peter Parker from Earth 19999 suffering greatly, losing pretty much everything in his life and having to start from scratch. It hurts, but we know it'll help Peter grow as a person. And then ATSV comes along and challenges that notion, "Must it happen the way it does? Does being Spider-Man truly mean to suffer?".

I feel like people forget that Loki introduced the multiverse to the MCU

I liked the oswald easter egg in m.o.m.

Thank god your bashing an actual bad movie instead of bashing nwh

I knew for SURE that Spider-verse was doing the multiverse right when it Immediately adressed a complaint I had about MoM, that I held onto for years.. (there were MANY complaints, but this is the pertinent one) "The multiverse was so boring! It was just an excuse for some cameos and to kill our favorite characters for shock value! that sucked! Why didn't they show a universe where Dr. Strange was a T-Rex! That would have been epic! They totally could have done that!" Spider-Rex: exists. Me: SEE?! SEE?! THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE!

The MCU really has no reason to fail the multiverse concept this bad when they already have shows like Loki and What If. Loki and his variants are all more interesting than anything in M.O.M. We literally got alligator Loki, it's stupid and funny but it's more unique than "Dark Doctor Strange". And What If has stuff like Thor being a party God and him and Loki always being bros and captain Carter existing at all.

Eyo what's the music used in the background? Btw great video

@miczilla_

Жыл бұрын

Mario Kart Super Circuit, Menu from Smash bros Melee and various sonic color tracks

SONIC OST FTW LET'S GOOO!!

When i watched both movies i felt something like the reverse of the cancellation of the spectacular spiderman, cuz sony gave the animation rights to marvel/disney which ended the spectacular spiderman due to sony no longer having the animation rights.

DAMN

The thumbnail reminds me of the enjoy vs fan meme

Doctor strange looking pretty strange

Multiverse of Madness is ok...but with Across the Spider-Verse, they would go all out with animation.

You know who else was a multiverse movie? My M.O.M

We gonna talk about the sonic colors soundtrack you used

yay

I think they could do so much with mom like they could have made it an entirely different story with Strange, Wanda and Loki. But also I'm really mad cause Wanda died in the end and that's just..... trash, she was my favourite and they had no reason to do that, she died for no reason at all and her death felt meaningless unlike Natasha and Tony.

@samkj1953

11 ай бұрын

Yeah! It's not like Wanda killed a lot of strange's colegues for her imaginary kids and a robot and enslaved an entire town or anything! She was teg best , she totally didn't deserve that death

so basically into itsv and nwh are like the og jumanji but mom and atsv are the newer version of jumanji

the fact that the acronym is mom is so lame

See I really wanted to watch M.O.M because of the whole Sam Raimi thing, but I struggled to care and pay attention. ATSV however, kept me staying invested. I didn't even wanna get up to use the bathroom but I had to and I hated missing stuff.

Sony does what Marveldon't