How to cheaply cast plastic models

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  • @DanielS2001
    @DanielS20016 жыл бұрын

    If you mixed some corn starch and acrylic paint with the silicone, you can make what's called Oogoo, which would be easier to handle. You can also replace the acrylic paint with food coloring and create Proto-Putty, which is said to be more durable. I recommend checking tutorials for both and experimenting with which may be the better for your projects. :)

  • @BROCKUPPERCUT
    @BROCKUPPERCUT6 жыл бұрын

    little tip on the resin , if you fill the molds with water and dump it into a cup you canget a good idea of how much resin that you need

  • @snoopu2601

    @snoopu2601

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are those plastic molds or plaster?

  • @wingonn5153

    @wingonn5153

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks that's a great idea, can't wait to cast my miniatures

  • @tattabox

    @tattabox

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very good tip!

  • @28russ

    @28russ

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's just you.....Just sounds like someone with some basic guitar skills playing with a loop pedal....I've made plenty of crap like this that I've deleted lol

  • @rskalisky

    @rskalisky

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@28russ Wow, cool story bro. Almost as cool as your stupid drone videos, I make crap like that all the time that I delete🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @syriacartist3490
    @syriacartist34908 жыл бұрын

    Which kind of (paint) you used for the polyester resin pieces ?

  • @AOWGroundBeef
    @AOWGroundBeef4 жыл бұрын

    what was the purpose of the plaster molds...just to show it could be done with plaster....then showing how it would be done with resin?

  • @mrblujet
    @mrblujet8 жыл бұрын

    How many times can you use the mold before you have to replace it?

  • @ihalloway
    @ihalloway7 жыл бұрын

    for silicon not to stick to model what are u using as seperator ? i know u can use baby powder

  • @albertoestrella5098
    @albertoestrella50985 жыл бұрын

    hello what brand is the polyester resin 1qt. you use please!

  • @rjfielvaal4318
    @rjfielvaal43187 жыл бұрын

    can I ask whats the mixture for the resin?

  • @TiMCoop3r
    @TiMCoop3r5 жыл бұрын

    is there anything i can buy at wallmart thats a good plastic mix?

  • @AlanVonGoodleef
    @AlanVonGoodleef7 жыл бұрын

    how much water did you add to the gypsum ?

  • @proficyink2114
    @proficyink21143 жыл бұрын

    DUDE watching this is hypnotic; Im not even a modeler and i love ur channel

  • @farismalikmuhammad5534
    @farismalikmuhammad55345 жыл бұрын

    Have you try to make metal part with the same technic?

  • @bhupendradesai5506
    @bhupendradesai55067 жыл бұрын

    which material in can u used for die please name of it and from where can I get it

  • @Tristan-bp2yy
    @Tristan-bp2yy9 жыл бұрын

    This tutorial is great, tried it myself and was wowed. There is one thing that though me for a six was that fact you use hypodermic needles to mix your resin?

  • @chaliu526
    @chaliu5265 жыл бұрын

    I can not do well like you do ! Good example. I learned many. Thank you !

  • @oguzylmaz6457
    @oguzylmaz64576 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for usefully video, nice work..at 5:45, what did you add in polyester resin..

  • @keithsmodelsandrcs6593
    @keithsmodelsandrcs65935 жыл бұрын

    Whats the white powder stuff ur using to cast the moddel

  • @rakka1dude184
    @rakka1dude1846 жыл бұрын

    quality detail, suprised me when i saw how messy it was!

  • @man_vs_life
    @man_vs_life5 жыл бұрын

    Now I have another use for all that work silicon. Nice demo and interesting additions in the comments. Thanks chaps!

  • @carmium
    @carmium7 жыл бұрын

    You might get better results by hot gluing your masters to a flat piece of glass, acrylic, or what have you. Then add your mold-making material (which can also be regular air-drying rubber such as is used for model railroad rock molds). You might want to build a little stick "dam" around your dried mold(s) and pour a back-up of plaster into it. When hard, lift off the plaster, and peel off the rubber. This way, you create a support for the mold cavities so that they remain undistorted and the openings remain level. Then, when you pour your casting material (Hydrocal is a good choice), you overfill the cavities, then place a piece of glass or Plexiglas over the mold, giving your parts a completely flat back when dry.

  • @lilmommalady76

    @lilmommalady76

    4 жыл бұрын

    I need you to do a video on that please

  • @hubristicmystic

    @hubristicmystic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, if you order some cheap dental VPS impression materials off eBay you can have a more accurate and durable mold ready to go in 5 minutes.

  • @carmium

    @carmium

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hubristicmystic There you go! Faster!

  • @finleybaker5113
    @finleybaker51137 жыл бұрын

    you can also whip up a bowl of water and glycerin or dish soap is what I use and pump the silicone into it. the glycerine acts as a catalyst. You knead it for a bit in the solution until it gets thick. take it out and press your positive in and wait like 30 mind, maybe more to be safe. demold and you're done

  • @whotoinfinity
    @whotoinfinity5 жыл бұрын

    Nice How To! Excellent choice of tunage.

  • @pablocalderoni8081
    @pablocalderoni80816 жыл бұрын

    is that REGULAR gypsum like the one you might buy on a workshop?

  • @deborahbaca1345
    @deborahbaca13456 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Are these able to take a gold spray paint? Thank you for this video. :)

  • @copitzkymichael3313
    @copitzkymichael33135 жыл бұрын

    Can you use clay as a model?

  • @salvationbordercountry3800
    @salvationbordercountry38005 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, but what is the white stuff you mixed? I figured the other stuff is liquid resin. Video was ok. It gave me some ideas.

  • @DansScaleModelCreations
    @DansScaleModelCreations7 жыл бұрын

    this is great, thanks for sharing.

  • @kamilebedyin5925
    @kamilebedyin59256 жыл бұрын

    Arent gypsum broke easily?

  • @GTgyro
    @GTgyro5 жыл бұрын

    I use plain old PAM cooking spray as a great mold separator! An old trick I learned from a friendly plastic vacuum forming shop in Detroit.

  • @garybanglebangle7949
    @garybanglebangle79495 жыл бұрын

    Great class for this. You make it easy.

  • @14hmdd
    @14hmdd8 жыл бұрын

    which powder is that?

  • @ArsyaUtomo
    @ArsyaUtomo4 жыл бұрын

    Can i make that into two part mold? Like front and bottom?

  • @dimefever1006
    @dimefever10066 жыл бұрын

    Going to try this on a ls engine I just ordered.

  • @Ryzler13
    @Ryzler135 жыл бұрын

    i think 1kg two part silicone for around $20-30 would be cheaper than 100g in tube for $8 Seems it would be cleaner to work with.

  • @marsupialsofmars3886
    @marsupialsofmars38863 жыл бұрын

    I always assumed there was some catch to that silicone being so much cheaper than the art kind. Is it more toxic? Longer drying time? Less durable? Too hard?

  • @Steve20127
    @Steve201279 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant! Very clever.

  • @thebugacademy
    @thebugacademy2 жыл бұрын

    i have something in mind, and have one question with all this, how brittle are these model creations, ?

  • @redjack2629
    @redjack26296 жыл бұрын

    You MAY want to clear coat your pieces first. If you have a mat finish, or rough peg marks, the silicone could bond , causing demolding issues... This is as someone who uses silocone caulking both for molds and for professional work. XP

  • @snoopu2601

    @snoopu2601

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks I have never done plastic molds or plaster. I have made a mold once when we were making bronze casting years ago. I do want to try and make a plastic mold once. Just to learn the procces.

  • @chestikov2011
    @chestikov20114 жыл бұрын

    I noticed you never made those panels with skulls ( like a weird church lol ).I wondered where the original panels where from cos they looked good cast in gypsum plaster

  • @pedrotome9119
    @pedrotome91196 жыл бұрын

    Very good! -but wgere can I get this powder that you show here?? Is there any site from where I could order this product or similar?? Do you know? I live in Europe, and a U.E. company to order this from, would be great!! 1000 Thanks!!

  • @jrag2007
    @jrag20077 жыл бұрын

    great tutorial , also the music is great. thanks!

  • @maciekwawryszyn658
    @maciekwawryszyn6587 жыл бұрын

    David could yoy make an experiment once when you cast every singel part in a model somthing small a 1:72 scale plane that would be relly interesting.

  • @reymed1670
    @reymed16706 жыл бұрын

    The silicone easy part find diy stuff to put in what u need to make ?

  • @rizdalegend
    @rizdalegend5 жыл бұрын

    As soon as I saw the silicone tube it made perfect sense

  • @Gragagrogog
    @Gragagrogog8 жыл бұрын

    Nice tutorial, but you don't have to wait a week for it to cure. This is acetoxy silicone which cures by absorbing air moisture and releasing acetic acid. You can put it in a plastic bag with a small cup of water and sealing it (and heating the air inside). In theory this can cut the curing time to 1/5 or 1/10 of the time.

  • @spike55151

    @spike55151

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dante Grimm Does the corn starch affect the clarity or integrity of the resin?

  • @redjack2629

    @redjack2629

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chris Hansen - Silicone, you mean. And yes. It causes the silicone to become thicker and opaque white. It also stretches less, becoming easy to tear over a few months. That said, it's perfect for popping out pieces quick as it becomes stiff in 45 minutes and can demold in 2 hours, depending on how thick you mix it. Dumping the silicone into a bowl of water with dish soap in it before applying it for the mold can also reduce curing time, but won't reduce clarity or integrity of the mold, though that's only important if you're doing a two-part mold. In this case, it should be fully cured in 24 hours.

  • @sadville13

    @sadville13

    5 жыл бұрын

    I tried using this and corn starch and it got stuck to one of my favourite action figures and I couldn't get it off....

  • @EdBoonSucks

    @EdBoonSucks

    5 жыл бұрын

    You don't even have to do even that. Mix 100% silicone with cornstarch or flour and 30 minutes later, it's cured.

  • @EdBoonSucks

    @EdBoonSucks

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sadville13 You can use brass wire wheel. It's soft enough to not cause too...much damage to the toy.

  • @reymed1670
    @reymed16706 жыл бұрын

    2 I need for moving parts guns heads for toys ??

  • @galleos4663
    @galleos46637 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video on how to create plastic army men the same way?

  • @slomaro9045
    @slomaro90458 жыл бұрын

    What was the thing he put on the resign

  • @GriffinStorm

    @GriffinStorm

    8 жыл бұрын

    a hardner perhaps?

  • @BarchettaValveAmp
    @BarchettaValveAmp7 жыл бұрын

    Use corn starch powder and mix it in the silicone until it doesn't stick to your gloves. Then press piece into it.

  • @wirikuta14
    @wirikuta144 жыл бұрын

    Name of the band?

  • @pablocalderoni8081
    @pablocalderoni80814 жыл бұрын

    I finally tried the technique but couldn't make it work, the silicone attached to the original piece and I couldn't take it out without breaking the mold (I couldn't even unglue it completely). I thought this might happenned so I covered the original with some industrial oil, coudl that be the SAME reason why this happenned? I also didn't let it dry for a week, just 2 days... any ideas?

  • @phoenixrodarte3121

    @phoenixrodarte3121

    4 жыл бұрын

    I put my figure piece without oils or anything. Let it dry for a week and the same thing happened like yours. The piece was stuck to the silicone. There has to be a way! Also, I'm working with super small pieces, so they must be all the way inside the silicone.

  • @pablocalderoni8081

    @pablocalderoni8081

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@phoenixrodarte3121 I finally tried by mixing it with corn Scorch (can't remember the actual term) bit that worked like a charm, Made a few molds and currently using them with the París thing....

  • @phoenixrodarte3121

    @phoenixrodarte3121

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pablocalderoni8081 How long did you wait? Hope not a week, lol. Will the silicone hardened or will you still be able to cut through with ease?

  • @pablocalderoni8081

    @pablocalderoni8081

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@phoenixrodarte3121 I mixed the silicone with the starch corn and you have around 10 minutes to make the mold, I only left it 24 hs and it was ready to remove the original. The mold is flexible so you can still cut it with a knife. :) I duplicated some barrels and chests

  • @Alex-kn5oz
    @Alex-kn5oz4 жыл бұрын

    Hey what is being mixed in with the resin?

  • @TheScouseassassin

    @TheScouseassassin

    3 жыл бұрын

    A hardener, otherwise the liquid resin would never go off.

  • @15nanoseconds
    @15nanoseconds3 жыл бұрын

    Please provide more info on the song and artist. Can't find this group nor the song anywhere.

  • @foxmulderms
    @foxmulderms9 жыл бұрын

    Can you give more details of the silicone? I am going to try this and don't want to buy the wrong thing. Thanks!

  • @bobbyhebert7972

    @bobbyhebert7972

    5 жыл бұрын

    À by Gy

  • @toddswasey1671

    @toddswasey1671

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just make sure the tube says 100% silicone

  • @raphsing
    @raphsing8 жыл бұрын

    what product is this called "Bílá" you used with a brush on the mold??? I don't understand the language in the package is this have a common name to find it in my country? thanks

  • @maksmaso4741

    @maksmaso4741

    7 жыл бұрын

    hi, ,,Bílá,, means ,,white,, The product he used was ordinary white powder gypsum or plaster ;) (dont know how exactly it is called in english...

  • @Freebird3558

    @Freebird3558

    7 жыл бұрын

    Plaster of Paris

  • @atoll3373
    @atoll33739 жыл бұрын

    Thx... Fluid Plastic; could you quote some brands.

  • @foreignfoamer3592

    @foreignfoamer3592

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Nokia" "McDonalds"

  • @felixlinquist
    @felixlinquist8 жыл бұрын

    Alright, what was in the small bottle that was added to the poly resin?

  • @karlkeller2662

    @karlkeller2662

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hardener .....otherwise the resin might not fully harden, and you'd have rubbery pieces ....or FUBAR pieces =OP

  • @felixlinquist

    @felixlinquist

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, much appreciated.

  • @psadorski
    @psadorski8 жыл бұрын

    This is great :) I will try it

  • @aediasnaini4918
    @aediasnaini49183 жыл бұрын

    Can i duplicate sprue on model kit?

  • @StyrenePanzer
    @StyrenePanzer9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this tutorial! Now i can have as many MG 42's and Karabiner 98's as i want :D

  • @thethinker357

    @thethinker357

    9 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha, great :D

  • @LTBROYT6A
    @LTBROYT6A5 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I will have to try this !!!

  • @SallMY
    @SallMY9 жыл бұрын

    Thank for sharing . I got a few question about this . Will any silicon will work . Is that gypsum something like plaster. I do have a few rare kits i want to recast some parts from. This look more suitable for bigger casting.

  • @Thejmg2011Blogspot

    @Thejmg2011Blogspot

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sall M Y for finding this video ill helps a lot and ***** thanks for posting the video to us.

  • @daviddamek3506

    @daviddamek3506

    9 жыл бұрын

    I also tried to use other types of sillicone, but they were too sticky with the plastic parts. For me is the best choice transparent universal sillicone. Sillicone is very resilient, so you can fill it with any substance, even molted metal, for example tin metal.

  • @henriquesantosrs
    @henriquesantosrs8 жыл бұрын

    fantastic!!!

  • @heros670
    @heros6706 жыл бұрын

    If you mix some white glue into your plaster it would make it much stronger wont break as easy

  • @javiermancheno8531
    @javiermancheno85314 жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT TIP ! IS THE MUSIC A MUST ? THANKS FOR THE KIND VIDEO !

  • @johnroberts5285
    @johnroberts52852 жыл бұрын

    That’s a good trick especially without using some type of mold release.

  • @bbbeddyboy6423
    @bbbeddyboy64235 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me, or is this music really good.

  • @RainbowYawn

    @RainbowYawn

    5 жыл бұрын

    bb beddyboy Agreed!

  • @tihzho

    @tihzho

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its you...

  • @Sonnymonster

    @Sonnymonster

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jean Michelle Jarre does jazz?

  • @LTBROYT6A

    @LTBROYT6A

    5 жыл бұрын

    bb beddyboy, Yeah the music is perfect for this type of video. I could listen to it anytime !!!

  • @JeanPaillard-to1hx

    @JeanPaillard-to1hx

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Sonnymonster It's Jean-Michel Jarre. Michelle is a girl's name.

  • @DarkDioStudio
    @DarkDioStudio8 жыл бұрын

    add some blue dish to water and then pour the silicone into the water. it helps

  • @rocko112camaro
    @rocko112camaro8 жыл бұрын

    I tried this with silicone (tube) I found here in the USA. I waited 2 wks to try to remove original pieces and it did not work. Silicone stuck to pieces. I don't know if it's different silicone in EU compared to USA. Tried again and coated pieces and still didn't work.

  • @SnareX

    @SnareX

    7 жыл бұрын

    did you use a lubricant before applying the silicone?

  • @rocko112camaro

    @rocko112camaro

    7 жыл бұрын

    I tried again with different pieces coating pieces with Vaseline (thin coating) and another pieces with hairspray. waited 3 days to remove parts still didn't work. Silicone tubes here from Wal-mart $2.99 and buying silicone mix for making molds is about $20.00. I think silicone tube in EU is different than silicon here in USA. Tried to find same silicon used in vid but can't find it.

  • @SnareX

    @SnareX

    7 жыл бұрын

    well thanks for letting me know. I got one with Vaseline spray been setting for 2 days. gonna remove it tonight. I'll let you know the results

  • @SnareX

    @SnareX

    7 жыл бұрын

    I got my silicon from home depot

  • @rocko112camaro

    @rocko112camaro

    7 жыл бұрын

    What brand name and did it work? Also did you have to do anything special to keep the pieces from sticking?

  • @rahbekjonas
    @rahbekjonas5 жыл бұрын

    Mix in one drop of acrylic paint, and it'll set in 3 hours instead of 1 week.

  • @fillmorehillmore8239

    @fillmorehillmore8239

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ratio?

  • @michelg3000
    @michelg30003 жыл бұрын

    These models are plastic or resin?

  • @auvergnat1863
    @auvergnat18635 жыл бұрын

    Warhammer pieces ?

  • @S-Tach
    @S-Tach6 жыл бұрын

    Nice work....thanks for tutorial. ....

  • @josephKEOarthur
    @josephKEOarthur8 жыл бұрын

    Shear beauty of a process. thanks.

  • @hectorminator4
    @hectorminator45 жыл бұрын

    Dude, do u really have good results with cheap tube silicon??

  • @toddswasey1671

    @toddswasey1671

    4 жыл бұрын

    It has to be 100% silicone they're about eight or nine bucks a tube

  • @sidewindful
    @sidewindful8 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Just one stupid question: what is the name of the artist and song? thanks.

  • @feldon27

    @feldon27

    8 жыл бұрын

    It says in the description. Luz - On the Line.

  • @vitamintechno6695
    @vitamintechno66953 жыл бұрын

    Any one a link to this noce track camt find it

  • @John-tm9vv
    @John-tm9vv5 жыл бұрын

    All I can is wow, fantastic!!

  • @simoneilmone3634
    @simoneilmone36345 жыл бұрын

    You are a genius!!!

  • @martymorgan9999
    @martymorgan99996 жыл бұрын

    Hi David, great video, i intend to try this thank you, one more question, what is the name of the music for this video

  • @thomasschoch3849
    @thomasschoch38496 жыл бұрын

    beautiful music...

  • @concertoweb
    @concertoweb4 жыл бұрын

    Why silicone don't glue one original plastic stuff ?

  • @mydemon

    @mydemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the answer is "because it doesn't" or maybe "because chemistry"

  • @baldeagle13x
    @baldeagle13x2 жыл бұрын

    Fuck sake, guys! I know everybody means well, what with all the added tips and tricks. But some come through as being a tad critical, or perhaps a bit confusing for a beginner who might read them(me!). He’s taken time to make the video and post it. Did you? I , for one, am quite impressed, so thank you for the video. Much appreciated.

  • @iwestbury
    @iwestbury9 жыл бұрын

    Really, really good. Thnx

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch74125 жыл бұрын

    Could You Make a Violin 🎻 From This Method ?

  • @dermetzger

    @dermetzger

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are you talking about an actual, playable musical instrument or a model violin of whatever scale?

  • @MurderHoboRPG
    @MurderHoboRPG5 жыл бұрын

    Hey man. Can you demonstrate this technique on miniatures

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  • @gregoryfox7551
    @gregoryfox75514 жыл бұрын

    When using plaster a good release agent is Pam. It’s cheap and washable and paintable.

  • @vastuki
    @vastuki7 жыл бұрын

    nice background music

  • @hensleyshobbies-doug7761
    @hensleyshobbies-doug77616 жыл бұрын

    I just found this video on KZread but very cool, that’s just nice as hell! Very informative! Thanks dude for sharing that!

  • @terrypallex5576
    @terrypallex55765 жыл бұрын

    Your only getting one side of the part being cast???? Don't understand!

  • @markandrews8437
    @markandrews84375 жыл бұрын

    Nice to watch thanks for sharing

  • @ecosurfshop
    @ecosurfshop6 жыл бұрын

    I think I am rapidly becoming your biggest fan

  • @solovino861
    @solovino8619 жыл бұрын

    Do you think I could use this process to make a copy of a car shell but have it made out of something highly flammable so that I can use it as a mold for an aluminum copy?

  • @hotcayle

    @hotcayle

    9 жыл бұрын

    Just use plaster of Paris cheap and for a one off an easy way to go. Make a wax casting from the mold the create a sand cast from the wax and use burn out method

  • @DavesModelWorkshop
    @DavesModelWorkshop7 жыл бұрын

    So do people think this is actually worth trying, or should I just pay the money for proper moulding solution? I'm tempted by the cheap option with plaster! Dave

  • @desktorp
    @desktorp6 жыл бұрын

    I don't get why you only had 1 glove when you ended up touching the silicone anyway. I mean that's _exactly_ like something I would do but I'd be calling myself an idiot while I'm picking silicone out of my fingernails.

  • @davideggleston2752

    @davideggleston2752

    5 жыл бұрын

    Done that too. ]😂

  • @h.j.peters.2891

    @h.j.peters.2891

    5 жыл бұрын

    yep, I'm the same...

  • @arandomyoutuber6634
    @arandomyoutuber66346 жыл бұрын

    I think people are gonna cast their own model planes now like they buy a model then cast so many of them to build :/

  • @icenesiswayons9962
    @icenesiswayons99625 жыл бұрын

    Music sounds like the theme for a recovering addict at art time!

  • @mp7986
    @mp79868 жыл бұрын

    A genius!!!!

  • @roasty80

    @roasty80

    3 жыл бұрын

    3 sides isn't genius

  • @fairyofmeat4100
    @fairyofmeat41008 жыл бұрын

    Гениально! А главное просто.

  • @codelicious6590
    @codelicious65905 жыл бұрын

    Wow I would've thought the silicone would stick to the pieces.

  • @funoff3207

    @funoff3207

    4 жыл бұрын

    He covered them in a mold release

  • @tydshiin5783

    @tydshiin5783

    4 жыл бұрын

    Silicone can only stick to silicone itself, it shouldn't be able to stick to any other material lol

  • @codelicious6590

    @codelicious6590

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tydshiin5783 like bathtubs and countertops and tile? Those things arent silicone and yet 100% silicone caulking sticks to all those things. Hmm.

  • @tydshiin5783

    @tydshiin5783

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@codelicious6590 fair point, but you can still tear it off the surface without much damage or any at all

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