How To Calculate Gas Requirements | Master Series

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In your basic open water training, you might have learned to always surface with a specific amount of gas in your cylinder. But does this truly guarantee a safe ascent? We'll delve into why this method falls short and introduce an approach grounded in real gas requirements rather than guesswork.
Ensuring a safe dive involves considering various crucial factors during dive planning. Gas planning, in particular, emerges as one of the most critical components. While technical divers excel in gas planning, utilizing different gas mixes and meticulously planning decompression stops, it's vital to acknowledge that recreational dives, despite their shallower depths, require effective gas planning for safety.
Join us as we delve into the intricacies of gas planning and its pivotal role in maximizing underwater safety. Discover how to factor in variables like emergency surface air consumption rate and average depth to determine the minimum reserve needed for a safe ascent. Understand the significance of turn pressure and its role in timing the conclusion of your dive.
If you're eager to elevate your dive planning and prioritize safety above all else, this video is a must-watch.
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00:06 The Significance of Gas Planning
01:17 Asacent Strategy
02:58 Minimum Reserve (Rock Bottom)
04:41 Usable Gas
05:15 Turn Pressure
06:32 The Conclusion of Your Calculation
07:14 Tips & Tricks
07:47 The Formulas (Simplified)
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  • @flowstatedivers
    @flowstatedivers15 күн бұрын

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  • @MrNeobuxer
    @MrNeobuxer15 күн бұрын

    Please don't stop making these videos!

  • @brandonsdi
    @brandonsdi15 күн бұрын

    Brilliant content straight to the point! it really is an eye opener to me after making a tough admission to myself that yeah, I'm 100% of the times relying on the guide. This definitely changed how I will approach my dives from now on. THANKS!!!

  • @remcovanhal6336
    @remcovanhal63368 күн бұрын

    Thats me in the video 😁

  • @Jonathannie99
    @Jonathannie9915 күн бұрын

    this is someting to think about. people shout be more awere of theire dives into the deep. keep making this contant

  • @surplusultrazen-lu5nt
    @surplusultrazen-lu5nt15 күн бұрын

    Excellent as always but let's talk about the elephant in the room! How and where we can get those prestigious mask straps ?!?!?! I would be very proud to wear it :)

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    haha ! it's not for sale but you can earn' it ! Details on this coming soon!

  • @Babmajom88
    @Babmajom8815 күн бұрын

    I was looking forward to this!!

  • @AlexArrigoni71
    @AlexArrigoni7115 күн бұрын

    Love. Thanks. When we dive with a guide/instructor we always rely on the fact that he could have enough air to support one diver after an emergency ascend but… what if it happens to two divers? This is why I am becoming more self-reliant during and after my Rescue course. Almost always diving with a pony which could be used for another diver too. Thanks for your input as usual

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    Diving with a pony bottle can pose more challenges than it solves. We recommend planning for the worst-case scenario using only your back gas. If you find your runtime limited with a single cylinder, it may be time to learn how to use doubles. :)

  • @AlexArrigoni71

    @AlexArrigoni71

    15 күн бұрын

    @@flowstatedivers well it’s a 5l pony :) 1000 l of air are sufficient for my range of exploration, plus the single back mount 10l or 15l it depends on planned depth :)

  • @dassdar
    @dassdar15 күн бұрын

    Always have backup onions to generate more gas with you!

  • @brandonsdi
    @brandonsdi16 күн бұрын

    Bring it on!!!! awesome

  • @PirateDM
    @PirateDM15 күн бұрын

    Thanks guys! ))) I really love your content !

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @sebastien2487
    @sebastien248714 күн бұрын

    Great video again illustrating deliberate diving 🙏🏼👍🏻

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks. That's a great way to describe this approach! :)

  • @snake310790
    @snake31079015 күн бұрын

    recently did my deep dive course and the same was taught. except we used a slower ascent rate (3m/min) and SAC rate of 20l/min. awesome job! cheers!

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    We are not disputing your knowledge, but remember that a slow ascent rate of 3m/min will likely result in continuous on-gassing at depth. However, it is undoubtedly safer than ascending at rates higher than the standard. If you are interested in this, It's good to spend time on studying the latest results of decompression research

  • @snake310790

    @snake310790

    14 күн бұрын

    @@flowstatedivers im all for learning. you are definitely right that the diver will still be ongassing faster. since we are calculating the minimum reserve gas, 3m/min is really slow. its not what is done normally. but in a scenario where a diver cannot ascend faster, there should be enough air for him and the buddy.

  • @skydiverninetysix
    @skydiverninetysix15 күн бұрын

    Very helpful video. Can you explain how you get "average depth"?

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    Since you calculate the required amount of gas to safely surface 2 divers from the deepest point of the dive you calculate the average depth from the maximum depth. In our example the max depth was 30 meters so you divide that by 2 and ending up with 15m avg where the pressure is 2.5b ATA.

  • @Tegneaufreak
    @Tegneaufreak15 күн бұрын

    Interesting. In egypt you get a 11l tank with 190bar if you are lucky. Get in the water and it cools to 175bar. So you better do 15 min dives or be in trouble. In reality the dive profile is V shaped with the right side of the V being the longest. Turnaround is at 110 usually. Safety stop at 70ish. But that is then regarded unsafe according to these standards.

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    Well, this depends on the depth, but you can calculate it yourself. The key question to answer when planning your gas supply, regardless of the method used, is whether you can bring two divers to the surface from the deepest point of the dive without exceeding a safe ascent rate and completing all necessary stops while sharing gas.

  • @DroPsyDro
    @DroPsyDro15 күн бұрын

    Exactly what I learned. BUT: I encourage all to measure their SAC rate while "working" under water. My rate swimming against a light current already is around 35l/min. If I or my buddy loses all of his gas, I garanty you I will panic and and breathe waaaay over that.

  • @MrNeobuxer

    @MrNeobuxer

    15 күн бұрын

    Yep, you are absolutely right. But it's a bit unrealistic to convince most people to keep an eye on and constantly measure their pressure-based SAC (unless you have a good air-integrated computer that calculates it for you instantly). On the other hand, you can't really anticipate what your PSAC will be if you panic, panic ain't good, you got to target the panic bro (or sis)

  • @DroPsyDro

    @DroPsyDro

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@MrNeobuxer of course you shouldnt panic. But in my opinion a rock bottom gas analysis should consider the worst case szenario. In this scenario, at least one diver is realy stressed out or panicing.

  • @DroPsyDro

    @DroPsyDro

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@MrNeobuxer and I find it relaxing to know that I even planned for panicing - with lowers the probability to panic.

  • @MrNeobuxer

    @MrNeobuxer

    15 күн бұрын

    @@DroPsyDro@DroPsyDro Yep. You should plan as conservatively as you feel will keep you safe. There is a limit, though, on how far you want to go before you realise that you're not really enjoying diving. So best to work on the root causes - comfort under water and calmness while doing skills, better breathing habits and good SAC, confidence in gear setup and familiarity, etc. Enjoy your dives bro!

  • @DroPsyDro

    @DroPsyDro

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@MrNeobuxer thanks, you too!

  • @felipemesquita2940
    @felipemesquita294015 күн бұрын

    Awesome> Greetings from Brazil!

  • @MCLuviin
    @MCLuviin15 күн бұрын

    How did you guys know i have been writing out my next dive plans the last 2 hours 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @L.L
    @L.L15 күн бұрын

    18 meters +\-3 meters a minute accent rate.. Save a lot of time that way

  • @jacobkrause1913
    @jacobkrause191313 күн бұрын

    Can you explain why the number calculated is the reserve not the minumum turn pressure? It seems like a waste, vs if it is minimum turn pressure, then as you ascend if someone has an issue while ascending, now you have more gas than needed to get them and you to the surface. Also your rule of 1/3rds explanation doesn’t make sense. If you go out, breathe 65 bar, turn back, the diver breathing it will only take max 65 bar to ascend, then in an emergency, your buddy joins your gas, and you both ascend and they use the extra 65 bar. You both make it to the surface no issues.

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    13 күн бұрын

    Reading your comment, it seems like you misunderstood the video, please watch again to clarify the meaning behind our calculations. We calculate the minimum reserve to know exactly how much gas we need to bring 2 divers to the surface from the deepest point of the dive while sharing gas and completing all necessary stops. That's why it's called the "minimum reserve". As for the second half of your comment, I'm not sure what you mean by it, but all I can say is, based on our calculations, for the specific dive used as an example in the video, 65 bar reserve would not be sufficient, as it's explained in the video. Let us know if you need further clarification.

  • @jacobkrause1913

    @jacobkrause1913

    13 күн бұрын

    @@flowstatedivers I guess I’m misunderstanding why you are calculating a reserve to get you and another diver to the surface at the time you surface, vs making sure you have enough gas for your minimum turnpoint. What is the rationale for surfacing with enough gas to get both you and another diver to the surface from the deepest point of the dive, when you have already made that ascent yourself?

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    13 күн бұрын

    @@jacobkrause1913 This method accounts for the worst case scenario and yes, if nothing happens you will be ending your dive with your minimum reserve. To mitigate this, we advise to plan a multi level dive where you can plan in to recalculate your min. reserve at shallower depths, this would maximise your bottom time while staying safe and conservative.

  • @jacobkrause1913

    @jacobkrause1913

    13 күн бұрын

    @@flowstatedivers right, I’m asking WHY are you calculating a reserve pressure ie: what you would surface with vs a turn pressure? If your calculations are enough to get you and a buddy to the surface, then you should turn the dive at or before the pressure stated, NOT surface with it…. Can you explain why I would need enough gas to get MYSELF, and my buddy to the surface at the end of the dive when I am getting back on the boat? Even if I was at the bottom, had a problem and needed to share air with my buddy to the surface, I would still have half of that reserved you created remaining. That makes no sense. Please clarify

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    13 күн бұрын

    @@jacobkrause1913 I'm happy to clarify anything but none of your quation make sense. I think you are confusing terms and generally misunderstanding everything in the video. Minimum reserve is the absolute minimum amount of gas that's needed to surface 2 divers from the deepest point of the dive. The usable gas is your tank pressure (at the beginning of the dive) minus the reserve. The turn pressure is calculated based on the dive profile you do, if you don't have to go back to your starting point ie: on a drift dive, your turn pressure would be your minimum reserve. On the other hand, when you do a shore dive so you want to go out somewhere then back to your entry, you calculate your turn pressure based on the usable gas / 2.. this is all explained in the video

  • @cinqrock
    @cinqrock15 күн бұрын

    I agree with all, however must of the scuba diver now are consumer of scuba diving and not "autonomous scubadiver'. Meaning that they follow a professional who will manage the dive profil. So my feeling is this video is for advance or passionate diver who by them experience and desire have a better buoyancy and breathing control. So in your exemple the RMV could be 20l/min, and 35l/min for the ascent (stress related to emergency)Thank for the video. Regards

  • @flowstatedivers

    @flowstatedivers

    15 күн бұрын

    Indeed, all our videos are designed for certified divers who are committed to diving responsibly. We believe that diving is inherently dangerous, and we reject the "I'm just a consumer" mentality. Our goal is to raise awareness and promote an alternative approach for divers who strive to be conscientious and self-aware. On the other hand, based on our extensive experience in the scuba industry, we recognise that many so-called professional dive guides often lack the proper mindset and knowledge. We believe it is crucial for every diver to think critically rather than simply follow someone and hope for the best outcome.

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