Awesome video! It’s actually the first I’ve seen that shows how to set up a bottom managed system using trees. Another thing to note when using trees is that they are alive and sturdy/well rooted. It might sound obvious to most, but I’ve seen plenty of people at the crag sling an obviously dead tree. I love watching your videos and the vast amount of techniques you employ.

Jason got him some chaw for later stashed away. lol. :) Thanks for the vid.

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

Ha… I think that’s my camera lens cap in my pocket

@Sicnus

Жыл бұрын

@@summitseekersexperience Good cover brother. *Wink wink nudge nudge* Just please do give up that stuff it's nasty. lol. ;) Sorry Jason I couldn't resist.

Great educational video. Thank you.

Exceptionally clear video. Thanks for all the great instruction.

Your videos are so helpful to me man! Keep up the excellent work

Excellent video! Thank you, I learned so many new techniques and you explained them very clearly. Nicely done 😁👍

Phenomenal tutorial

so good!

This is super helpful. Thank you for such quality videos! A climb that comes to mind where this would be useful is this one at the New called “Fool Effect” which is 120’ long. MP mentions there are no top anchors to lower off of, because a 70m wouldn’t reach the ground. In this case I think having a second follow and clean, then both walking out and around or finding a lower place in the cliff to rappel is the best bet

Very educational

Thx!

Nice video, and learned a some new things. I noticed a lot of commentary on understanding the condition of the tree before hand. From what I've previously read about using trees as anchors it may be worth doing a follow-up video on general rules of thumb, especially when many of the trees available in a real situation will not be anywhere near as stout as the ones in your yard, or growing right out of a crack in the granite.

Great video! Used everything I learned from your videos this past weekend had lots of fun. Was wondering if you could make a video on how to carry rope especially when it’s 70m long

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

For sure!

You place a lot of faith in over hand knots.

What are your thoughts on using something like the petzl rad line to set this up?

The method I use is to pass a bight around the tree and then do a BHK with the bight from one side and doubleing up the strands from the other (so that you end up with 3 eyes to clip). I haven't seen this method anywhere but seems quite good as can be done anywhere on the rope, requires minimal knowledge of knots and gives you a master point. Am I missing something? Or people simply don't use it as the BHK is slightly bigger than the 2 eye version?

Love that n rig jtree anchor set up with a static rope! Would hate the feeling of standing so close to a cliff edge unprotected… even though a lot of climbers just walk right up to the cliff without a care in the world 😂

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it's one thing to get on the edge when that's all youre focused on but as soon as you start doing a task where your mind can't be totally on safety, then it's definitely time to tether in.

P.S. "We don't want to have any accidents while we are out with the family..." Truly, we don't want to have any accidents, whether we are out with the family or not!! 🙂

I think one disadvantage of the 2nd and 4th methods (walk around and bowline with Beckett) is it’s a bit harder to adjust the master point location. With method 1 and 3 (sling and Connecticut tree hitch) it seems easier to adjust where the master point is. That way if the tree is 20’ back from the ledge you’re not belaying where the rope is rubbing across the edge and you can’t see your climber. You can combine this video together with your master point extension video (the munter to the first masterpoint and then tying another overhand at the edge) to get the extended tree anchor setup.

Everything I'm looking for right now! Any books you recommend along these lines? Any books you recommend for multi-pitch?

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

For single pitch and basic anchor systems like the ones highlighted here, I’d recommend “The AMGA Single Pitch Manual”. For multipitch I’d recommend “The Mountain Guide Manual”. You’ll also need to consider private instruction if you want to get proficient. Both books are published by “Falcon Guides”.

If not equipped with a gri gri, which specific friction hitch with a sewn prussik would be most appropriate on the guide tether?

So the "BHK" knot at 14:10 is just an overhand knot on a bite? I would imagine then a fig8 on a bit would be similar but more bulk. Its just the BHK/BFK I am familiar with is similar to the bunnyears/super8 in which the tail needs to be secured or rolled over the knot. I am fairly new to setting up toprope anchors, the leaving tail method/Joshua tree, would have saved me so much time/frustration, will use in the future for sure. Thanks for all your videos and responses, very helpful.

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

The BHK is essentially an overhand but with two bights. I wouldn’t do the modified figure 8 version you mentioned and the super8 would not be applicable in this service as it’s not as flexible as the bhk on being able to put the master point literally anywhere. Super 8 is a good knot for a static line fixed to two anchors imo

Thanks for these great videos Jason. Question: Is it truly necessary to avoid using a spare dynamic rope rather than a static rope for these tree anchors? Part of me is failing to understand the risk of using a dynamic rope - Is it simply a greater fall distance due to the stretch?

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

A static rope is way more robust and will remain in place. That said, if you setup Joshua tree anchors once in a blue moon and only own dynamic ropes, probably worth seeing if that’ll work in your application

@wuchris94

Жыл бұрын

👌 Thanks for the response!

I’ve always wondered the strength and uses of a square not in climbing situations.

Important point too when choosing a tree: it's alive! A dead tree can be vay thicker than your thigh and still give in. True story!

@summitseekersexperience

Жыл бұрын

good point

Sap on my climbing rope? No thanks.

@user-gt6tu9kx4h

Жыл бұрын

wait until you find out about dirt 🤯

@ryenschimerman2127

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gt6tu9kx4h Or kangaroo rat droppings.

@Andrew-yr6ig

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gt6tu9kx4h Much easier to get out

Your just nagging and nagging

This is super helpful. Thank you for such quality videos! A climb that comes to mind where this would be useful is this one at the New called “Fool Effect” which is 120’ long. MP mentions there are no top anchors to lower off of, because a 70m wouldn’t reach the ground. In this case I think having a second follow and clean, then both walking out and around or finding a lower place in the cliff to rappel is the best bet

@summitseekersexperience

10 ай бұрын

Yep, that would be preferred.