how to build a FFB direct drive STEERING WHEEL from a HOVERBOARD | step by step
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In this video, I'll show you how to build a direct drive force feedback steering wheel using a cheap hoverboard motor and a bunch of other inexpensive electronics. The price is between 100 and 200 euros and the results blow out of the water any other wheel available for even double that price. The direct drive motor offers high torque and detailed feedback with 15nm of peak torque and fast acceleration. The build is very easy and it's a perfect beginner project to start getting into sim racing without breaking the bank.
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Nice project, but I’d highly recommend adding an inline kill switch to anything delivering this level of torque, just to keep your hands safe from the wheel spinning when you crash or get shunted of track
@TheGamersRace
10 күн бұрын
It's open source, just make one. Or put a big red button to kill power to it.
been wanting to do this for years mate! thanks for the inspo! i have soo many hub motors laying around being a scooter tech. i need to use them for other things!
awesome video, project, everything great.
Actually insane
Good job 👍🏼💪🏼
impressive!
Awesome! keep up with the contents! The quality is amazing! I'll try a similar project this summer, starting to look for cheap/thrifted hoverboards. :)
Awesome video! I newer have time to finish my video but now I know good one to recommend!
Nice proyect
been looking out for this project for 4 months just waiting for odrive and THANK YOU so much to propeler (creater of code ) for not making it paid BTW u dont need the other board u can just use odrive although it does look more neat
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
It's one of the best open source project I've ever seen, also the community is small but very active
@The_Vanillax
2 ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects Hi i have two questions, is the custom pcb necessary for the build? If yes where can i buy it?
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
@@The_Vanillax you don't need the custom PCB, it's just makes things neater, you can get one from PCBway
@The_Vanillax
2 ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects oh ok thanks
Esta expectacular , los taladros antiguos con direccion en amvos sentidos , funcionan ?
How did you run the wires from the wheel buttons and shifters? Is there a slip ring or something in the middle?
I'm interested in FFBeasts' flight sim stick and pedals!
What screw size did you use to mount the SK16s?
This is awesome, FFBeast only for the steering right? And your pedals and shifters are they running separately through EMC?
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
That's correct
how did you put the steering wheel into the base tho
hi is there any way i could contact you personally i need some help with the steering wheel plans if you could please
I guess you would need some tube for passing the encoder shaft through it, preventing any wear to the phase wires due to its rotation inside motors main shaft
@TheGamersRace
10 күн бұрын
Its pretty smooth as it is, but you could just use some soft shrink on it if you wanted. You could put it around the wires, around the spoke, or both.
Big brain
Did you prefer the FFBeast Software, or the Arduino EMC software more? I'm thinking of using the same assembly and parts from FFBeast, but using an Arduino to communicate, if thats even possible.
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
I preferred the FFBeast, not even comparable
@DAZprojects could i also use the same parts from your last ffb steering wheel to create this one as the only difference would be the brushless motor and the controller or could i somehow edit the hex file to turn down the rpm to use the raw output from the shaft of the motor as it alos has a pretty good 11nm output?
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
Just make this one in the first place
@fallensmoke8368
2 ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects i already have the parts for the old one
Why do you use the spoke to feed into the angular encoder if you could use 3 hall sensors already installed on this motor?
@algodude8713
25 күн бұрын
I believe the hall sensors in the motor do not have sufficient precision to make a good-performing wheel
@AlexYeryomin
25 күн бұрын
@@algodude8713Hall sensors give the motor controller quite precise position of the rotor. A typical hoverboard motor has 15 pairs of magnets, and with proper processing it is 5400 position per rotation, if I am not mistaken. It is far better than this sensor, which has a resolution around 1 degree (and it has 4 hall sensors inside anyway, but "senses" only 1 magnet at the shaft). I guess, the main reason is that this sensor reads the absolute angular position by itself. This drastically simplifies the code, of course.
I wish you’d put a bit more detail into this. How do I route the cables out of the shaft? I can’t get them to budge at all
@mr.simple5586
6 күн бұрын
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@fudruckers3916
6 күн бұрын
For anyone who sees this I just cut the wires and desoldered them from the windings, and resolderded after prepping the shaft.
Рома! Это твой ведь проект? Поздравляю! Ещё раз спасибо! Пользуюсь 💥
awesome video. do you by any chance have specs on the magnet and the bearing
@vbence12
2 ай бұрын
From looking at the step file the bearing is a 19mm OD, 10mm ID. So it should be a 6800 variant. For the magnet it should be around 6x2,5mm but if I'm not wrong it should be included with the encoder.
@Factsfun-kg4xc
2 ай бұрын
@@vbence12 Awesome thank you very much!
Can i do drift with this?
Are the 10 amps of the PSU enough to get the 15nm or 12-15 amps would be better ?
@podwor
9 сағат бұрын
same question here..
Can you use the on board AS5407P encoder on the Maker XDrive Mini. Very nice video and assembly.
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
I think so but I'm not sure
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Hello, having trouble drilling through the axle. I’ve gone through 3 metal type bits. Any advice from your experience? Thanks!
@DAZprojects
Ай бұрын
I used a standard metal bit and the axle steel seemed very very soft, drilling through it with no problem
@cdr96mb
Ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects Thanks! I ended up needing to use some oil and apply more pressure to the drill, while going at a slower speed.
can you help me choose a power supply? is using 24volt 10amp 500watt enough? or do i need a higher wattage? and isn't the hoverboard motor 36 volts? i also found a 36volts 28amp 1000watt power supply. i hope you can help me on choosing the right power supply. thank you in advance
@user-xc7sp2hg8k
7 күн бұрын
you need 24 volts and 10-15a
Hello, great job, in the country where I live I can't get that driver (x drive). Would it work with an Arduino Leonardo and a BT_2 board?
@justsomeguywholikespiano
Ай бұрын
same question here, do you have any answer yet ?
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't work, this is a brushless motor
is there any controller board thats cheaper than the xdrive mini ? any clones? i dont know how to search it up
@DAZprojects
Ай бұрын
That's already a clone of an odrive model
@justsomeguywholikespiano
Ай бұрын
oh i see, thank you so much
Did you find this motor better than the old project you did? BTW keep it up with your projects, i really like your videos
@DAZprojects
13 күн бұрын
Way way better
@lorenzotrevisan4031
13 күн бұрын
@@DAZprojects Amazing, i think i'm gonna do it with the same hoverboard that i found nearby!! Thanks for the ispiration
is there any alternate motor driver we could use as the neither the MKS xdrive mini nor the MKS xdrive-s are available in India
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
There's a list of compatible controllers on the FFBeast website
@fallensmoke8368
2 ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects thanks
Hmm, I was wondering if you can take a beginner sim wheel and upgrade the motor like the logitech G29/923 and use the logitech housing for a sleeper look
@DAZprojects
Ай бұрын
Why?????
@GG-si7fw
28 күн бұрын
@@DAZprojects In the US, there was a culture of drag racing building sleeper cars. Sleeper cars were normal looking cars but built up to go fast. I've seen it in gaming computer builds with cases from the 90's to 2000's but haven't seen it in sim racing and thought wow, that can actually happen now after seeing your video. Of course, whoever does it will have to showcase it on Twitch and KZread or otherwise noone will know.
hey man just wondering can i use the hub motor off my e scooter instead of the hoverboard just let me know thanks
@TheGamersRace
10 күн бұрын
I would assume you can use any DC motor, so long as you can properly mount it and connect it to an encoder.
@lachlanellis7024
8 күн бұрын
@@TheGamersRace thanks
How are your pedals connected?
anyone have any idea where that white adapter thing with a magnet inside and a screw came from? for the encoder i assume but not sure. Is it 3d printed?
@DAZprojects
11 күн бұрын
It's 3d printed
Hi! Excellent work. Congratulations. I need help. I've constructed one but when I'm calibrating the wheel and I go over 450 grades the wheel becomes crazy. Why? And, the motor gets very very hot. Some idea why that's happen?
@saurajrathod7044
12 күн бұрын
Hi i have not made this yet but i assume that the overheating problem is expected i read somewhere but you can make a cooling system unless if the temperature is super high then please let me know and make sure to check over your soldering as tat is a core reason for many overheating issues.
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
If I remember correctly that also happened to me, but I don't remember how I fixed it, if I remember that I'll let you know
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
Also my motor gets hot, I've now drilled a bunch of big holes in the spindle side, and I've added two blower fans that blow directly on the stator, it is pretty loud, but gets read of all the heat allowing me to use it for hours at 100% power
I can use the encoder that is soldered on the driver board?
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure but I think so, you will need to modify the mount to house the entire board
Does this wheel work in carx or froza
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
I think so, but I used it only in AC
Do you have the parts file printed on the 3D printer?
@DAZprojects
Ай бұрын
They're printed from PCBway
Where do I find the layout of the PCB board?
@DAZprojects
2 күн бұрын
On the FFbeast website
bro, what magnets in your motor wheel?
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
I don't know, standard form hoverboard
@user-xc7sp2hg8k
15 сағат бұрын
@@DAZprojects bad(
Hello friend, how are you?, I had a problem a while ago with my computer and I ended up being banned on discord! Would it be possible to remove it so I can return to discord please?
Which games are compatible with this? Is it EA WRC2 one of them?
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
All of them probably
Are you able to share your FFBeast UI Settings?
Have you created a LUT file?
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
No
Can you give me the link to the parts?
what is the steering angle? Only 180?
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
You can set it to whatever you want
Ok just tell me what that brake resistors for
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
It's to dump the back current of the motor to heat so that it doesn't go back in the PSU and trigger the over current/ over voltage protection. This happens when you turn the motor and it resists your movement
@harman22595
2 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@fitchyyboi
Ай бұрын
@@DAZprojectsCan/should I upgrade my brake resistor? I hear they get very hot and I worry that maybe it'll die someday and boom there goes my power supply and house lol
How many nn?
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
Probably around 15
What pcb is that?
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
A custom one made with PCBway
@crykiddalt
2 ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects how much did it cost?
@crykiddalt
2 ай бұрын
Cause I need a pcb and I don't know which one to buy for the project
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
@@crykiddalt you mean the motor controller?
@crykiddalt
2 ай бұрын
@@DAZprojects no you said which controller you need but what pcb do I get?
is this compatible with PS5
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
Don't think so
Hello, could you give me the link of each thing you use please? If not, leave me an email and you can send it to me there.
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Not opensource.
@Veezy751
12 күн бұрын
Yes it is just take an actual look at the link
@TheGamersRace
10 күн бұрын
It literally is though
having cable coming out of wheel is big nono
@DAZprojects
17 сағат бұрын
I know, I will probably make a wireless wheel in the future, maybe with a screen
and i paid $900 usd for my 9nm wheel 🗿
doable with no electrical knowledge?
@DAZprojects
3 күн бұрын
Yes
No such thing as a hoverboard. Hoverboard has no wheels. How people still call these hoverboards is way too funny. Time to unsubscribe.
@DAZprojects
2 ай бұрын
I know that's not what a hoverboard is, but it's how people call them
@tobiascourt3104
2 ай бұрын
What a moron
@Sithhy
Ай бұрын
I guess you're also mad at people calling quadro/hexacopters "drones"?