How to Brew Hazy IPA at Home: Biotransformation Dry Hop | EP26

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This week I’m continuing my deep dive into the world of Hazy IPAs and we’re checking out the impact of biotransformation dry hopping. The idea is that when you add dry hops when the yeast is at peak activity, certain non-aromatic compounds are reduced into smaller compounds by the yeast, glucose, water, and an aromatic hop oil. That part isn’t up for debate - it’s scientifically understood. But that doesn’t mean I don’t have some questions. Like is it OK to leave dry hops in the fermenter for 7, 8, maybe 10 days? And more importantly, can I taste a difference between a bio-hopped beer and one that’s dry hopped right before packaging?
Now, let’s make some beer
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  • @ShortCircuitedBrewers
    @ShortCircuitedBrewers3 жыл бұрын

    Jackie O's!!! I would definitely drop the boil addition all together. The high alpha hops that you have in the whirlpool are contributing a lot of bitterness. At least that's what I found in my experiments. 👍🍻

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely one of my top breweries! I’m digging the balance of bitterness but who knows where this could end up 🤘🏼🍻

  • @rafaelpestano7436

    @rafaelpestano7436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly Its the same for me, around 125g on the whirlpool (same hops I use on dryhop) at 82C for 15min is the golden spot on bitterness and flavour for me. By the way, really awesome series, the atmosphere of your videos makes It so enjoyable to watch, can't wait for the next episodes, cheers!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rafaelpestano7436 cheers man 🍻

  • @yoann5934
    @yoann59343 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks! Maybe if you could display unit conversion on screen everytime you mention a temperature or weigth, that could really help the non-US viewer. Cheers!

  • @silvermediastudio

    @silvermediastudio

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you could learn the super-simple conversions, and then never have to worry about it again. Cheers!

  • @JonFlyTV
    @JonFlyTV3 жыл бұрын

    And the Brewtuber of year award goes to....... Hops & Gnarly ! - I am going to try Idaho 7 sooner than later. Thanks for the great video.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah thanks man! I appreciate your support!

  • @gokcenami5075
    @gokcenami50753 жыл бұрын

    I like Chinook alongside Citra and El Dorado. It is a little dull when used with only one variety, but with two other strong veriiteies it acts like a third dimension and drives the beer more towards tropical aromas rather than orange (which I don't prefer in hazies). One good thing about Chinook is it's very cheap and you can easily find pellets of latest harvest. About oxidation, I think sticking a hop bag on the interior wall of the FV with a magnet and pulling it off during high krausen is the easiest and safest way without opening it.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just planted some Chinook! That’s a good tip! I haven’t tried the magnet approach but I’ve seen TheApartmentBrewer use that technique with success. I’ll have to give it a shot sometime! Cheers 🍻

  • @ElementaryBrewingCo
    @ElementaryBrewingCo3 жыл бұрын

    I’m digging how you’re going through your recipe development process. Idaho 7 is a great hop, and that second beer looks fantastic!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Stoked on how it’s shaping up 🍻

  • @carbonbased7291
    @carbonbased72913 жыл бұрын

    Loving the move into experimental terrain. From what I read dry hops supposed to undergo biotransformation should not be added at the peak of yeast activity, but somewhat after the peak. The reason for this was that the volatile aroma compounds of hops would be blown off by the stream of CO2 to a greater extent if added at peak. This is obviously a trade off situation, but you might wanna play with the timing to achieve the best result.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion! I’ll give it a try 🍻

  • @NunoAlves0000
    @NunoAlves00003 жыл бұрын

    Can’t help but to feel special when I hear “grams” in the whirlpool additions! another great video for this series, perhaps at the end you could try to taste the first iteration of this recipe against the final winning version just to see how far you’ve come!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    100%! Thanks for making this better! There's a good chance we'll see a return of the previous batches 🍻

  • @arontamminga1459

    @arontamminga1459

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @joshuasantelises7407
    @joshuasantelises74073 жыл бұрын

    I’m just here for the b-roll/airlock music at the end

  • @danielemarotta8583
    @danielemarotta85833 жыл бұрын

    I’ve just rewatched all the episodes, from the first to this one. I can’t wait for the next one. This series is fantastic

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼 thanks man! Stoked for the next one!

  • @Jango1989
    @Jango19893 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! Can't wait for the ultimate IPA at the end 😂

  • @PortlyGentleman
    @PortlyGentleman3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video I thoroughly enjoyed it 🍻🍻

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! I appreciate it!

  • @LuisRodriguez-kf4ir
    @LuisRodriguez-kf4ir3 жыл бұрын

    Great series! I love how you have been working with experimenting with IPAs and how different additions affect the final beer.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Stoked you like it!

  • @matthewkaiser310
    @matthewkaiser3103 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I love the experimentation and sharing your results. Shows us how we can all work on making our own "perfect" beer. Looking forward to future videos. Cheers!!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stoked! That’s exactly my goal! Cheers 🍻

  • @Louz_Drumz
    @Louz_Drumz3 жыл бұрын

    you have a really nice process, congrats. I'm loving this series... this is my favorite video you have done so far. Brew on my man!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks dude! I’m stoked you like it 🤘🏼🍻

  • @TheApartmentBrewer
    @TheApartmentBrewer3 жыл бұрын

    Keep it up! I'm gonna have to get one of those aromatics boxes! I have to agree with Short Circuited's comment down below, I don't like to add anything to the boil in my hazies since I get a decent amount of bitterness from the whirlpool alone, but that's just my preference. Great video!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m willing to try pretty much anything lol but the previous batches I didn’t have it and it just wasn’t quite where I want it. The aroma kit was fun! And honestly I’m done with it so I’d be totally happy to mail it to you!

  • @kiwi7057
    @kiwi70573 жыл бұрын

    Great series! Thanks

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Stoked you like it!

  • @familybjornestrand4548
    @familybjornestrand45483 жыл бұрын

    Still AWESOME videos, I'm loving this season! A note on oxidation. Active yeast will chew up any oxygen quickly, so making your hop addition during the height of fermentation when yeast cells are most abundant is the best time to do it. Any oxygen contamination must have happened after fermentation. My guess is during packaging.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Always good to see you down here! That’s a great point 🙏🏼🍻

  • @copsarebastards

    @copsarebastards

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah ideally for the experiments there's a closed transfer to kegs and then tasting from there. Your canning setup is awesome though I wish I had something like that

  • @scottsteenburg
    @scottsteenburg2 жыл бұрын

    I’m loving this channel. Recently found it after being recommended by Homebrew 4 Life. I’ve learned a ton already. Keep up the tremendous work!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Stoked you like it! Plenty more to come

  • @TheVindalloo
    @TheVindalloo2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. As I'm watching this I'm trying to make up my mind if I should dry hop today, during active fermentation on day 2,or wait another 2 days. Damn, can't decide

  • @shoeybrewing1899
    @shoeybrewing18993 жыл бұрын

    Beers look amazing, great hop combo too, ive only used Idaho 7 once but think i will give it another go. Cheers,

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers man! 🍻

  • @Rtollinchi
    @Rtollinchi3 жыл бұрын

    Dude that is some legit brewing your doing

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man stoked you’re digging it!

  • @timmoore7461
    @timmoore74613 жыл бұрын

    I have a Anvil also and love it, I see that you are not sparging or adding any additional water before boil so are putting the complete volume of water for your boil in the mash? I was following the guide and adding the required water per pounds of grain and then adding the extra gallon or two during sparging. I have also thought about the 1.5 quart of per pounds of grain rule then sparging the rest after for boil, thoughts on your process?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personally I don’t see a big difference in efficiency when I sparge so I’ve started to skip it and just bump my efficiency down a couple percentage points. The manual had info on both procedures. I have made sure to still mash out and that seems to work well. Large grain bills are probably the only time I’d sparge and just because it takes up more space in the kettle. If you try a no sparge let me know how it goes

  • @TheBruSho
    @TheBruSho3 жыл бұрын

    Would be interested in seeing you playing with yeasts to compare their biotransformability (word?) Solid vid!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’d be fun! Thanks dude 🍻

  • @ryandunlap6893
    @ryandunlap68933 жыл бұрын

    Pro move with the diacetyl rest

  • @CascadesHomebrew
    @CascadesHomebrew3 жыл бұрын

    I suspect your Hazies will get much better with a different yeast. I tried a few heavily hopped beers with Chico (not really NEIPAs) and they always started to lose hop flavor and haze after a few weeks. Same with WLP013 London (I had hoped it would work as it is my goto yeast for Porters and Milds). I have made some wonderful hazies with London III and Voss. I am looking forward to trying the Verdant dry yeast.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m so stoked for this next one! I think you’re totally right. Curious about verdant and also I feel like it’d be a good hop tolerance test to chuck some Philly sour in

  • @RourkeKendrick
    @RourkeKendrick3 жыл бұрын

    How would the bio-transformed beer get oxidized when you have the hop sightglass?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hard to say! It can definitely happen though

  • @thebird36
    @thebird363 жыл бұрын

    I've seen Idaho 7 as an awesome whirlpool addition hop, Im not sure if I've seen it so much in dry hop. However kudos on the citra addition for bitterness. I think a lot of neipas miss the ball by not having a bittering addition to balance the beer. I'm excited to see what you got for yeast stains, I don't have access to imperial unless I want to spend close to $30 on yeast. I also find El dorado to have hop creep every time I DH with it

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    What would be different between whirlpool and dry hop? It’s a killer variety! Wow that’s steep for yeast! That’s the one I’ve been most excited about. Can’t wait!

  • @thebird36

    @thebird36

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly I'm not sure but if you look up Idaho 7 it's supposedly best during whirlpool but you obviously got good results!

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thebird36 Interesting! I’ll check it out

  • @cmcurran5
    @cmcurran53 жыл бұрын

    So funny. After a few rounds of hazy I landed on citra and el dorado

  • @Mcmiddies
    @Mcmiddies Жыл бұрын

    Hey Man, I am looking to upgrade my anvil bucket with the same blow off tube setup you have but the stainless steel tri clamp tube you have is not linked in the notes. Can you or anyone else link or say what it is?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s from brewhardware.com

  • @jongerenski1545
    @jongerenski15453 жыл бұрын

    Where did you order that hop aroma kit from?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yakima valley hops

  • @derekhoffman605
    @derekhoffman6053 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! A little confused by the end result though? Did you really prefer the biotransform and what exactly what different between the two that you noticed the biotransform helped? Also as side question. How long was the total fermentation? (7 day fermentation) (7 day dry hop) (2 day cold crash)?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something went wrong with the dry hop on the bio hopped beer but the hop combo is great and I really like the single hopped version. Next time I’ll bio hop again and see what happens. Yea so if brew day is day 0 I bio hopped day 1 dry hopped day 7 and cold crashed day 8 and 9. The best way to know what to do next is by checking the gravity

  • @derekhoffman605

    @derekhoffman605

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly This is really useful information. A problem I'm having in mine right now is that I'm dry hopping after day 7. Then again 4 days later to double dry hop but I'm getting a lot of hop resin in my beer when I keg. It makes it really bitter it's like the hops haven't really dropped out and i taste the actual hop and not the hop oils. This video is perfect for what I'm doing right now. Maybe I will do a biotransform and a 7 day hop instead of one with 4 days left.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like to factor the cold crash into that last dry hop in BeerSmith too. A good two day cold crash helps drop the hops but a little time in the keg can be really beneficial. I usually carb the slow way and then drink the first couple pours before packaging or serving friends. Cheers man!

  • @derekhoffman605

    @derekhoffman605

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarlyYour awesome thanks!

  • @Rtollinchi
    @Rtollinchi3 жыл бұрын

    How would you go about doing water chemistry for a hazy double IPA using Poland spring water? 5 gallon batch?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good question! I’ll do my best to briefly explain but there’s a couple great videos by TheApartmentBrewer and one by BrewCabin that go over this topic in detail so definitely check those out. But you’ll start with your water report ( www.nestle-watersna.com/sites/g/files/pydnoa606/files/2021-02/2020-PS-WAR-EN.pdf) and a tool like BeerSmith, Brew n water, or the Brewer’s Friend Mash Chemistry tool (I recommend that last one for a free tool). Enter your details from the water report into the corresponding fields of the tool of your choice. That’ll be your source water. Next you’ll need to select or define your target water profile. I’ll include my target profile information below. All of this takes some time to setup in the tool of your choice but once it’s set up each subsequent time will be much faster. Once your target is defined some tools calculate the additions automatically and some (like the brewers friend tool) you’ll need to just play with the amounts until it aligns with the target profile. I promise all of this sounds more complicated than it is. My suggestion is to just hop in and try it out. Should take about 15 minutes your first time. Cheers 🍻 Calcium: 125ppm Magnesium: 5 Sodium: 10 Sulfate: 150 Chloride: 200 Bicarbonate: 0

  • @Rtollinchi

    @Rtollinchi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly a truly appreciate you taking your time to respond back to me. I’m nervous to do it but I will take your advice and set it up. I will keep you posted as I go along. Thank you so much for the help.

  • @AndrewLynch9
    @AndrewLynch93 жыл бұрын

    How solid are the chronicals compared to the anvils eh! You can get up to 2.5psi on the chronical using the kegland sounding valves. Gives you a one way airlock as well and no suck back. That's what I'm doing with mine.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are super solid! That’s a good tip I’ll check it out

  • @ffwast

    @ffwast

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounding is a very different practice from spunding 😂

  • @kjdevault

    @kjdevault

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ffwast😂😂

  • @Kberrysal
    @Kberrysal3 жыл бұрын

    Are you going to try a kveik yeast at high heat temperature

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably not with this series. Is that what you use for hazy IPAs?

  • @iamcookbook
    @iamcookbook3 жыл бұрын

    What is your efficiency like? I'm getting something crazy like 90-92% efficiency with a Brewzilla and it made me have to scale back my base malts quite a bit, which lowered the color in some lighter beers. So then I had to compensate by adding some munich to bring the color back up to where it should be. It's an interesting problem to have.

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dang! The BrewEasy is right around 70%. That’s a very interesting problem to have! I guess you could cut your mash short but that kinda defeats the purpose lol

  • @iamcookbook

    @iamcookbook

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly I'm milling kind of fine, mashing for 75 minutes, and doing a slow sparge. All of those things combined seem to help. I always mash out at 161F for 15 minutes to get a glycoprotein rest which seems to improve head retention a bit, that's where the extra mash time comes from.

  • @JustinHoMi
    @JustinHoMi2 жыл бұрын

    No comments on the affect of bio transformation?

  • @mossyrock123
    @mossyrock1233 жыл бұрын

    have you tried using beta glucosidase?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t but checked it out and ordered some aromazyme. Thanks for the tip!

  • @mossyrock123

    @mossyrock123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly i have some but havent used it yet, but im guna put it in with an ipa i have fermenting atm its one of my faves so im hopjng i can tell the difference

  • @dimash244
    @dimash2443 жыл бұрын

    isn't vienna base malt too?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s a base malt but Proximity has a specific malt callled base malt. A little confusing

  • @joshuasantelises7407
    @joshuasantelises74073 жыл бұрын

    No issues with that gas post not having a PRV? 😯

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s a pain to release the pressure but with the valve closed there’s essentially no impact on the pressure of the fermenter. And when you open it with ~3psi in the sight glass it disperses into the volume of the fermenter and doesn’t have much impact

  • @joshuasantelises7407

    @joshuasantelises7407

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly so just fill with 3 psi?

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep and I try to purge about 7 times

  • @Kberrysal
    @Kberrysal3 жыл бұрын

    Look into bru1 hops

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw that sale recently - I’ll check them out!

  • @noiseterrorcodes
    @noiseterrorcodes3 жыл бұрын

    those butterfly’s sucks, brewha full bore valves are better, no restrictions, cool video

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤘🏼

  • @fdk7014
    @fdk70142 жыл бұрын

    The loud background music is really annoying

  • @HopsANDgnarly

    @HopsANDgnarly

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching 🤘🏼🍻

  • @fdk7014

    @fdk7014

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HopsANDgnarly The experiment is interesting but having loud music in the background while talking is annoying. It is unfortunately somewhat of a trend nowadays. I guess Casey Neistat did it at some point and therefore now everyone has to do it.

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