How to Braze with Nitrogen! The Process up Close from Start to Finsh!

This goes over the entire process of brazing with nitrogen along with an example of what happens when you don't! The setup of the hose, pulling out the Schrader valve, the opening of the nitrogen tank, the adjustment of the regulator, the adjustment of the flow meter, the process explained, the brazing of a joint, and the shutdown process of the nitrogen all in a compact up-close video! Supervision is needed by a licensed HVACR Tech while performing tasks as Experience and Apprenticeship garners Wisdom and Safety.
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  • @acservicetechchannel
    @acservicetechchannel7 жыл бұрын

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  • @prabalmitra9532

    @prabalmitra9532

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the links, Sir.

  • @07027mark
    @07027mark7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! You are the best on KZread, hands down!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot Marcus!

  • @resurgensix
    @resurgensix2 жыл бұрын

    Such an honor to have met you at the HVACR Training Symposium at Kalos Mr Mig! Going to pick up your recommended #Uniweld tools on my next paycheck. My boss is old school and set in his ways. So, he never uses nitrogen when brazing. But we have a very hard time getting our vacs down to 500μm. Wasting a lot of time! And creating future problems. So as Ive been taking Trevor Matthew's Compressor Masterclass, the "Field Practices in 7 Steps" section in week 1, this was discussed in detail. So I looked for your video here to find the best practices for doing so. Thanks as always for all your mentorship to the HVAC+R techs!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Robert, you are such an encouragement to hear from! if you ever have questions just message me directly on linked-in or email me at info@acservicetech.com

  • @DVGuy2
    @DVGuy27 жыл бұрын

    Nice Video, Great Tools acservicetech!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks L. Brown!

  • @jerryalvarez1967
    @jerryalvarez19674 жыл бұрын

    very nice video, straight to the point. great explanation!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jerry!

  • @LVMACHINE88
    @LVMACHINE885 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy all these educational videos you show us. I have learned so much as a newbie to the field. Although it cracks me up every time u say "alright" Ha!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah those were in the earlier videos. I don't believe I am doing that now. That was my old verbal que for eye contact in the classroom. It was a hard habit to break when transitioning to video, thanks

  • @wildman8601
    @wildman86016 жыл бұрын

    Nice video bro simple to the point

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Wild Man!

  • @grumpyg9350
    @grumpyg93503 жыл бұрын

    Nice job. Fun to watch👍👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @victorguerra9232
    @victorguerra92327 жыл бұрын

    thank you!!!enjoy ur videos very good information!!!!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Victor Guerra!

  • @victorvillafane252
    @victorvillafane2525 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video excellent job I appreciate it

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Victor!

  • @jimbola77
    @jimbola778 жыл бұрын

    very nice!!!

  • @stevehenderson9074
    @stevehenderson90747 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, clear and concise instructions, and great camera placement.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much Steve!

  • @acservicetechchannel
    @acservicetechchannel8 жыл бұрын

    I would still only run 3 cfh at the inlet through. If there is a lot of friction until the nitrogen can get out through the other side then it will take the path of least resistance and that may force a little pin hole through your molten braze for the nitrogen to escape. You don't really need the psi but just for the oxygen to not be present in order to prevent oxidation. Hope you enjoyed the video! Thanks for your comments and thumbs up!

  • @pray4me510

    @pray4me510

    7 жыл бұрын

    acservicetech how about doing this process on a package unit? since they don't have service valves?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    You would need to braze in access valves since you have to have the line be open while brazing and to weigh refrigerant in when you are done. this is what you would install after piercing and recovering refrigerant -- amzn.to/2i2JwE8 --or this size-- amzn.to/2iQ1tIn

  • @rodgraff1782

    @rodgraff1782

    Жыл бұрын

    You only need enough flow to snuff out a lit match at the outlet.Not blow it out. If the match extinguishes, it means there is no oxygen. Flood it first with more flow and then turn it down just enough to keep it moving..

  • @peterbenko429
    @peterbenko4295 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sir!😁👍🏽

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Peter!

  • @davidjeng7315
    @davidjeng73154 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos and book. They help me a lot, thank you. I have a R410 Ptac that has hole on the suction line near accumulator. Can I just seal it? How do I braze with nitrogen if there are no service valves on the system?

  • @eftihiablattas6774
    @eftihiablattas67744 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video and all of your videos; they're really helpful. Could you have brazed the joint on the suction side while feeding the nitrogen from that side? or would you have needed to feed it from the other side to braze that joint? Anthony

  • @786otto
    @786otto3 жыл бұрын

    Good video.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @sergiodoordie319
    @sergiodoordie3196 жыл бұрын

    thank u great video

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sergio!

  • @kazekagetilo
    @kazekagetilo3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    You bet!

  • @jhontejada5773
    @jhontejada57736 жыл бұрын

    Hi, its always awesome to follow every part of your post we are gaining knowledge. Only I have doubt like, if still the same outlet (SERVICE VALVE) to purge, when we solder during compressor replacement? vise versa

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately you can't flow nitrogen through because the compressor will not let it through so we do what we can when we can for the best possible job, great question, thanks jhon!

  • @tonythetiger5968
    @tonythetiger59684 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't cooling your lines with a wet rag potentially create a thermal crack or at least increase the chance of thermal shock?

  • @HowToDoitright
    @HowToDoitright2 жыл бұрын

    What is the full pressure on a new nitrogen tank size 20. Great video by the way

  • @makanahapakuka3485
    @makanahapakuka34852 жыл бұрын

    Gonna try out the VN-500. Been watching and noticed they purge the lines before adjusting to the braze setting. How long should I purge the lines with Nitrogen prior to adjusting to the brazing setting?

  • @JC-sc9rx
    @JC-sc9rx Жыл бұрын

    Could I purge the lines first, then set to braze flow to remove some of that potential leftover refrigerant from the line so that I don't get phosgene gas Creation in the process of my brazing?

  • @salvatoreclaps4374
    @salvatoreclaps43743 жыл бұрын

    Grear Video! Wonder how do you handle R290?

  • @sachinchawla1368
    @sachinchawla13683 жыл бұрын

    Super

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    So nice

  • @stinkstarz9621
    @stinkstarz96213 жыл бұрын

    Do you need to have that sight glass ball type regulator?

  • @1XY52
    @1XY526 жыл бұрын

    Is Argon gas an acceptable substitute for nitrogen? That is all I have.

  • @josephquackenbush4095
    @josephquackenbush40957 жыл бұрын

    Seems like it would be a good idea to perform a leak check on the newly brazed joint before disconnecting the nitrogen!!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    That is correct and the flow regulator must be taken off before. Here is a video- kzread.info/dash/bejne/X3qV2dNvk9O8g9o.html

  • @abdzayadib6090
    @abdzayadib60906 жыл бұрын

    hi , can i ask what are the steps of cleaning copper pipes after brazing without nitrogen purge?? great video , thank you

  • @alexlarkin207
    @alexlarkin2073 жыл бұрын

    What can be done (if anything) if the contractor installer never purged with nitrogen while brazing a new install with new line set? I have witnessed this so often, i thought it was the norm!!

  • @paulbonenberger8925
    @paulbonenberger89252 жыл бұрын

    What’s the fitting that goes in the regulator that the bubbler connects to called?

  • @2mikey8able
    @2mikey8able2 жыл бұрын

    I’m new at this but if nitrogen is flowing towards the evaporator and then to the txv, I did not know you can flow nitrogen to the txv and continue flowing ?

  • @Dax82Altea
    @Dax82Altea4 жыл бұрын

    Should you NOT put a cold towel on the brazing after red hot??

  • @LiveLaughLarp69420
    @LiveLaughLarp694205 күн бұрын

    But how do you braze the first line with the guages hooked up without melting the rubber in them

  • @tptm100
    @tptm1002 жыл бұрын

    I have heard that nitrogen should enter the liquid line and exit out of the suction line, so can I safely say that it doesn't matter?

  • @abdu11a23
    @abdu11a237 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @satanic6stringbender
    @satanic6stringbender Жыл бұрын

    How would one apply nitrogen while brazing the air handler/furnace ??

  • @toekneeee
    @toekneeee Жыл бұрын

    Do you purge for every braze or just the last one?

  • @mph5896
    @mph58968 жыл бұрын

    Very nice, any changes with oxy/acetaline setup? I was considering running 5/10psi for gas to braze.

  • @davidmarquardt2445

    @davidmarquardt2445

    7 жыл бұрын

    10 psi would be plenty, 5 psi would be better. Your only using a small tip. Remember 15 psi max for acetylene. Above 15 psi free acetylene can dissociate violently (ie BOOM). One of the first things we learned in welding school.

  • @TheMonear
    @TheMonear9 ай бұрын

    Is it ok if we use Argon instead of Nitrogen, with the same procedure?

  • @fastlife866
    @fastlife8667 жыл бұрын

    great video, question say i pump down the system to fix a leak on the suction line. and their is oil residue on the inside of the pipe when you go bacl to braze. obviously you dont want that oil burning off inside the line while brazing. whats the best way to clear it out if repairing an old line. thanks

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    You just try to blow it out with nitrogen or wipe the area. Flow nitrogen through at 3 cfh. Be very very careful and avoid breathing any phosgene gas that will occur. Thanks

  • @michaeljames5881
    @michaeljames5881 Жыл бұрын

    Does it matter which line you flow the nitrogen through?

  • @adamslater136
    @adamslater1366 жыл бұрын

    Great video thank, would you still only have the nitrogen flow at 3 cfh if you were brazing larger pipe? say 1"5/8 pipe?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you can tin tape a refrigerant hose to the end of the pipe and make sure you are brazing a good distance away from the tin tape. Then tin tap the other side and poke a small 1/4" hole in it as a purge vent.

  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking22592 жыл бұрын

    The flowmeter ball position indicates quantity of N2 gas flow, not pressure.

  • @NMranchhand
    @NMranchhand6 жыл бұрын

    Since you said that the refrigerant was “in the unit”, did you trap it in the unit by using the compressor while manipulating the service valves? And did you then do a recovery from the liquid and gas lines? (Testing myself from what I think I have been learning. Thanks. )

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    That is absolutely correct, a pump down, and recovery. It is possible to do a full pump down so that the unit stays below 0psig though without a recovery, awesome, thanks!

  • @osamabajrai732
    @osamabajrai732 Жыл бұрын

    Can i asck you about this regulator at tme 02:20 First you open the key knop of the Cylinder then you open the key of the Regulator then you open the flow metter The is the flow meter help us to the consumption of the Gas and the Regulator help us as safe Guard for the Flow meter because what i know is every pressure level = to Level of Flow in medical use for example we use the Maximum level of flow meter in order to achive certune amount of pressure either in CM H2O or in MBar

  • @erics9213
    @erics92137 жыл бұрын

    Could you mention what position the hi/lo side service port king valves should be in while flowing nitrogen, e.g., front seated, back seated or 1/2 way? Great Video!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great Question! So in this video these are not king valves. Check this video out to see king valves----kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4yf07GMj9Tfp9KR.html-------In the video you commented on-On new units with refrigerant inside the condenser the valves would be front seated as you are brazing the lineset and evap in. On a system where you are replacing the compressor and have previously recovered the refrigerant you would have them backseated. On king valves brazing lineset on system with refrigerant in the condenser you would have the king valves front seated. If you were replacing a compressor on a system you previously recovered you would have the valves mid seated. back seating a king valve is for disconnecting from a live system because a king valve does not have a Schrader to hold the refrigerant in. Thanks for your questions!

  • @stevehenderson9074

    @stevehenderson9074

    7 жыл бұрын

    acservicetech

  • @ddcws1
    @ddcws17 жыл бұрын

    Once I am ready to tie into the furnace how would I do this set up? The condenser is not even set yet set yet the the lines would still be open at that point. Would you cap them off at that point? All this stuff is still new to me and I really want to make sure I am doing it the right way.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Let me know if I answered your questions in the prior post. Thanks David!

  • @jddr.jkindle9708
    @jddr.jkindle97087 жыл бұрын

    just a note ... 3 - 5 cfs, not 3 - 5 psig ( 2:50 ).

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah cubic feet per hour cfh, I put a not in that video but since it was an annotation, you would only see it if you were on a computer and not a phone, thanks and good catch!

  • @jaramilloereli
    @jaramilloereli4 жыл бұрын

    Do you Know how long has This practice has been around? I learned it 3 years ago, but I’m noticed people, Tech are acting like this is the new Thing.

  • @Mr1man1plan

    @Mr1man1plan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lots of people skip the nitrogen because it adds extra time and tools to lug around...

  • @earthstewardude
    @earthstewardude4 жыл бұрын

    I have a small crack in the liquid line at the bend just above the compressor. tight spot, wondering if I should use 15% or higher and also a jewelers torch so I can avoid over heating / damaging the compressor? Did this happen because the 3 compressor anchor bolts were tightened down too much causing too much vibration on the liquid line.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    15% silver braze rod will work but you will need more heat than that because the metal of the compressor may act like a heat sink. As long as the system is empty of refrigerant, the tube should be heated up quickly and brazed. Also be cautious of any phosgene gas that can be created during brazing since there is refrigerant oil in the line, thanks!

  • @richardcloudbase
    @richardcloudbase4 жыл бұрын

    Gr8 Vid. You should really purge all the air out of the lines before lowering the flow rate.

  • @prettycureforever7102

    @prettycureforever7102

    4 жыл бұрын

    The next step is vacuuming does he really need to purge it though

  • @Froggability

    @Froggability

    4 жыл бұрын

    If: Brand new capped lines they are pre charged with nitro which helps

  • @natalievelez4496
    @natalievelez44965 жыл бұрын

    So how do you braze the condenser unit before the lineset is soldered at the air handler? How will the nitrogen flow through the coil to get to the LL connection you are brazing or vice versa? Also how will you solder the air handler? Say if you are brazing the LL @ the AH, would you just connect your nitrogen to the LL at the condenser unit?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    I usually wait until I have everything connected to braze the outdoor unit in. This way the nitrogen flows through the whole thing. I have 3 videos, part 1, part 2, part 3, where I show how I brazed a whole system in. Look up "acservicetech brazing" thanks

  • @europeanexotics2826
    @europeanexotics28265 жыл бұрын

    This is standard procedure in Belgium. Weld with nitrogen> leak testing with nitrogen > vacume until at least under 270 Pascal> start up unit. Or you're not allowed to build one in the first place.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks European Exotics!

  • @HowToDoitright
    @HowToDoitright4 жыл бұрын

    So there is no issue with nitrogen flowing through TXV or piston with 3psi pressure? Also How do you confirm it is coming out from the other end since pressure is so little.

  • @Froggability

    @Froggability

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lick the back of your hand and feel it.

  • @Chris-H00
    @Chris-H005 жыл бұрын

    Where would you put the nitrogen hose on the unit for the suction line brazing. Would It Go on the liquid line? Or would it stay on the suction line. I went to school for this. However my teacher can't show me everything. There's so much to know.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    You would switch it to the other side so if you were brazing the suction valve, the nitrogen would be on the liquid valve, when brazing the liquid valve, the nitrogen would go on the suction valve, thanks!

  • @wowcolors
    @wowcolors6 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video with brazing rings

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for letting me know what you would like to see wowcolors.

  • @circularebin
    @circularebin5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve watched a few videos of people brazing linesets, and one thing I’ve noticed is that not one of them use flux before soldering. Is this because of the chance to contaminate the inside?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is brazing with 15% silver brazing rod. The phosphorus in the rod fluxes it. You would flux when using lower temp solder such as Stay Brite 8. You would use stay Clean product. Look up acservicetech brazing playlist for more videos and brazing and swaging tools along with rods are found at amazon.com/shop/acservicetech thanks

  • @circularebin

    @circularebin

    5 жыл бұрын

    AC Service Tech LLC ... Thanks for the reply. That makes sense. Is there any specific reason silver solder is used, rather than say, a lower temp solder used on water lines? Seems like there’d be less of a chance to have the joint blackened with a lower temp solder., but I’m guessing the lower temp solder can’t withstand the high pressures.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is higher strength, the silver in it allows not to crack as easy. Low temp solder introduces a small amount of acid into the system at each joint so that is why a lot of us braze. Many techs solder with stay brite 8 and report no issues, thanks

  • @victorguerra9232
    @victorguerra92327 жыл бұрын

    So if u have four joint to braze the inlet of evaporator....the outlet of evaporator...the suction and the discharge( liquid line)side of condenser...which one do start first from start 5o finish...and does it matter if u have a txv?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Disconnect the bulb on the txv and dont cut out the section for the filter drier or install the liquid line filter drier until the very last thing. It doesn't matter where you start but that you have a clear channel from where the nitrogen enters until where it escapes. The fittings can just be pushed over the tubing and yes a decent amount of nitrogen will be lost there but that is ok as it will continue to make it through the tubing. The nitrogen will have displaced the oxygen. I would advise that you not braze right where you are running nitrogen through so you don't melt your hose. We are talking about doing the best job with what makes sense, that's all. I believe these three videos in a row part 1, 2 and 3 show me brazing through the whole process. Thanks for your question. Let me know if you have more questions after those three. Thanks

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  • @popsmccartney435
    @popsmccartney4352 жыл бұрын

    What number of tip are you using?

  • @oldtimedrumcorps
    @oldtimedrumcorps6 жыл бұрын

    If you are brazing a copper line inside the OD unit within 15 inches of the compressor how do you pump in nitro while brazing that section . Do you disconnect the line at the compressor so the nitro is flowing out while brazing and not entering the compressor ?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can't really purge with nitrogen in that situation unfortunately, thanks!

  • @davemaciel1391
    @davemaciel13917 жыл бұрын

    If u don't use nitrogen, won't the in-line filter pickup the oxidation residues left inside the lines? So is nitrogen really to prevent oxidation debris or to provide for a better weld process?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes the inline filter drier will pick up a lot of it, will increase friction on the oil and refrigerant movement across it, mix with possible oil additives to clog up txv's moving parts, or could clog the strainer. very small particulates can get through the filter drier and comprimise the compressor. All of this because some techs are not running nitrogen through due to what they say is time. Once one knows the procedure though it really does not add much time at all and won't make leaks when brazing. It just takes a bit of getting used to then one is fine. Thanks and here is part 1 of a 3 part video using it - kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXmZm6qRnd3ccbw.html

  • @sugarfreementos

    @sugarfreementos

    7 жыл бұрын

    acservicetech you sir are a true mechanic not one of those Hit and Run mechanics

  • @vetta17
    @vetta178 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get your gauges set up? Or what make are they? No wonder I have such a hard time doing it with nitrogen, as I don't have that second flow meter attached

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    8 жыл бұрын

    You could get them at your local supply house or amazon for around $50. Look for a UNF3 Uniweld Flow Meter. Thanks for the Question!

  • @keyroncampbell
    @keyroncampbell6 жыл бұрын

    How did you make the refrigerant go Into the lines so you can braze

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was flowing dry inert nitrogen through to avoid oxidation inside the tubes. Then a pressure test must be done, then a vacuum down to 500 microns, then weigh refrigerant in, thanks

  • @prabalmitra9532
    @prabalmitra95325 жыл бұрын

    Sir, as this is a demonstration you should have shown how clean is the inside portion of the brazing section- after the brazing is done - when nitrogen is flowing as opposed to ordinary brazing.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Prabal, did you look up "acservicetech brazing with or without nitrogen" I show the comparison in that video, this was just a procedure video, thanks

  • @williamhernandez6215
    @williamhernandez62156 жыл бұрын

    When brazing the AC line and applying a wet rage can this created condensation in the pipe due to cold against hot in the pipe?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    The copper tube is not permeable to water so it should not, thanks.

  • @fluoridaman2332

    @fluoridaman2332

    6 жыл бұрын

    If it does somehow create moisture, it would just evaporate when vacuumed down.

  • @danielhernandez4145
    @danielhernandez41455 жыл бұрын

    Is there a limit to how far the Nitrogen at such a low CFH will actually travel and where it becomes ineffective? I do large scale VRF jobs with some line sets that exceed 100+ feet and multiple Y's (refnet's). For example, I may braze a 1/4" service pigtail on the starting point of a Suction line for running my nitrogen through. It may branch off to 10+ air handlers that are maybe 100+ feet away before it sees it's first split. Am I okay to just continue running 3-5 cfh at the same service point when im down the line 100+ feet? Just seems like the nitro flow becomes redundant when you reach a certain distance UNLESS you up the pressure to compensate for the distance? Any input on this would help. Thanks!

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it is a long run or many units connected together, first purge at 20 cfh and then you can drop down to 5 cfh instead of 3. Once the air is removed from the initial minutes of purging, this flow rated should keep it good, thanks!

  • @raymondsarvarian9074
    @raymondsarvarian9074 Жыл бұрын

    All you need to do is add dry filter on both side Suction and liquid line.

  • @abdu11a23
    @abdu11a237 жыл бұрын

    how does the nitrogen run through to the outlet of the high side service valve if the coil has not been brazed yet? wouldn't the nitrogen leak through the unbrazed joints before reaching the high side valve?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great Question! The object is to just get the oxygen out which it will do. Yes much will leak out but still there is enough to push the oxygen out at the other service valve, Check part 1, 2, and 3 for the whole brazing process with nitrogen. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXmZm6qRnd3ccbw.html

  • @redseathoughts5716
    @redseathoughts57167 жыл бұрын

    so do you put the nitrogen in the high side and let it flow out the lowside? Does it matter which side you flow the nitrogen into the system? thanks, let me know. ;)

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great Question! It does not matter which side you flow into, it will be able to flow out the other side. Thanks

  • @ddcws1
    @ddcws17 жыл бұрын

    How would you do this setup brazing in line sets that are 9 ft up and not hooked up to the unit yet. I am working with 20 ft sticks of hard copper that can be up to 100 ft long line sets and we are brazing it all in without nitrogen. I know nitrogen is an important process when brazing because of the damage it can cause but I am working under someone and I kind of have to do what I am told. I want to do it the right way so if you wouldn't mind explaining how I would hook it up. Like I said none of the copper is hooked to the condenser or furnace so I would just need to run the nitrogen through the suction and liquid line to make sure I am not oxidizing the inside.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    You can drill a hole in a cap and braze a service valve in it. Put the cap on the end of the pipe and tin tape it on. You would be brazing 20 ft or more away so this won't fall off. Keep the nitrogen tank on the ground and use 1/4" hose couplers or a gauge set to connect two 5' refrigerant hoses together to extend reach to 10' high. --- amzn.to/2i2JwE8 -- I do agree that you need to follow what your told until you are in the position to make the positive changes you want. Also when just running linesets before installation of the condensor or evap many times we braze these access fittings on and do a pressure test during other building processes to make sure our linesets were not damaged. You would just cap the other side or connect the other side with the two pipes together. Thanks, hope this answered your questions!

  • @ddcws1

    @ddcws1

    7 жыл бұрын

    acservicetech acservicetech acservicetech acservicetech okay so for instance say I am going to braze 40 foot of line set I would braze into a cap a service valve on both liquid and suction line. Now at the other end of the liquid and suction line is that left open so the nitrogen can escape? I think you mentioned tying them in together but how would you do that if the liquid line is 3/8 in and suction is 7/8 would you need some kind of reducer so they could tie in. Guess I am not understanding how you could tie the two in together since they are free standing and not hooked to anything yet.

  • @ddcws1

    @ddcws1

    7 жыл бұрын

    acservicetech thanks for the link I am going to order those

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you were to tie them together on one side after you are done brazing to run a pressure test through both then we usually just crimp the suction line over the liquid line and braze the seam. It will hold pressure. I do this with channel locks and linesman pliers. In reference to brazing just the vapor line put the cap on one side and leave the other side open for the nitrogen to escape. Here is the link for the smaller tubing service valve -- amzn.to/2iQ1tIn

  • @ddcws1

    @ddcws1

    7 жыл бұрын

    acservicetech okay I got it. Yeah I have channel locks so that won't be an issue. I really appreciate the tips it will help me do my job better. 👍

  • @jimbola77
    @jimbola777 жыл бұрын

    how do you like the turbo torch????

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Very much so. I braze tubes from cap sizes up to 1 1/8" ACR so it works well for that.

  • @robertmunguia250
    @robertmunguia2506 жыл бұрын

    Good video! How would you braze with nitrogen at the evaporator coil? The same method or something else?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    The same method. Search out "acservicetech Brazing with Nitrogen playlist" There is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd video there that will show the whole thing, thanks

  • @fgarayone
    @fgarayone Жыл бұрын

    This looks time-consuming, especially in a supermarket setting. isn't it better to braze it all and change all filters at least 3 times at startup? Anyone has opinions about this. When I'm welding 30 systems 90-150ft each system. I rather change the rack system filters 3 times at startup. I clean all cases valves and walking valves as well, and I end up with zero particles? any ideas anyone has done what I do?

  • @l.crossjr
    @l.crossjr6 жыл бұрын

    Do you have to use nitrogen when a brazing both lines?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you just switch the location of the yellow service hose attaching to the service valve. Check out the brazing playlist 3 part video.- kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4qTxsNtqdDSprA.html

  • @cityboyz4life
    @cityboyz4life5 жыл бұрын

    So if ur using oxygen actelyn torch do u still use nitrogen ?? I was told yes and was told no

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely yes. Only when soldering do you not need to flow nitrogen, thanks

  • @keominin2567
    @keominin25677 жыл бұрын

    Excuse me! Could you tell me ,why we need make brazing with nitrogene?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Black oxidation occurs when brazing without nitrogen and this would get stuck in the system and recirculate. It could clog up the filter drier, reduce lubrication on the compressor or could react with rust inhibitors to make the txv stick, thanks

  • @keominin2567

    @keominin2567

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @christianponce3860
    @christianponce38605 жыл бұрын

    Im no expert but I saw a another video where the tech flows the nitro through the liquid line traveling through the txv and coming backbout the suction line. He chases the nitro as he brazes. For example he starts with the liqiud at the compressor. Then goes up to the evap continues with the liquid the the suction at the evap and then comes back down and finishes at the suction at the compressor. Chasing the nitro.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Christian, the only issue with that is you don't want to have your nitrogen hose on the port of the first service valve you braze because you will be melting the rubber gasket on the hose. If it doesn't melt, it will still get deformed some, thanks and great observation!

  • @walterbrunswick
    @walterbrunswick6 жыл бұрын

    I did not see that ball floating at all. Make sure you have at least 5 CFH flowing through the flow meter as the diaphragm is not sensitive enough to hold the seat open. Also you need to FULLY wrap your service valves! Or better yet, transition to StayBrite #8.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Walter, that was an older video but yes the ball is floating. It is not like the turbo torch version. The ball only floats about 3/16 from the bottom when at 3cfh. I usually flow more through before brazing and then tone it down to 3cfh while actually brazing. I always wrap the service valves. I also disconnect the bulb on the suction line of evaps that are equipped with the txv whenever possible, thanks Walter's Playground, all good topics!

  • @zolu707
    @zolu7074 жыл бұрын

    can you use argon insted of nitrogen to purge?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some people do. You just need to use an inert dry gas, thanks

  • @Froggability

    @Froggability

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nitrogen is way cheaper

  • @earthstewardude
    @earthstewardude5 жыл бұрын

    how far back to not breath in? seems you were fairly close to the smoke.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes you need to make sure that you have available fresh air. To do so possibly use a fan or wear SCBA. I was only briefly putting the flame to the copper in this one, thanks!

  • @rajangeorge8935
    @rajangeorge89354 жыл бұрын

    Does nitrogen flow through the TXV?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes it does, thanks

  • @fromanabe8639
    @fromanabe86395 жыл бұрын

    Only five "we're going to >go ahead.....< on this one.

  • @chriswall7134
    @chriswall71347 жыл бұрын

    were you brazing with acetylene only there? Your tip looked different than the Oxy/acet setup im used to seeing

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes it was an air acetylene torch. Thanks!

  • @JM-yx1lm
    @JM-yx1lm5 жыл бұрын

    You didnt address this but after brazing the suction line would you move the nitrogen over to the liquid side when ready to braze that one? Or just leave it on the suction?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    We leave it on the liquid line while brazing the suction line and leave it in the suction line while brazing on the liquid line because you will have the tubing inside the house connected. You can braze the inside with the nitrogen on either port. Have you checked out "acservicetech Brazing with Nitrogen Playlist" I have videos on brazing in a complete system and what happens when you don't braze with nitrogen, thanks

  • @Tactical--fr8gn
    @Tactical--fr8gn6 жыл бұрын

    Most manufacturer are starting to question tech and are requiring nitrogen when brazing and will be voiding warranty if not done.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    I believe this is the same reason manufacturers have chosen to stick with flares instead of braze joints on mini splits. They believe the majority of techs are not doing it and I think that is our present state, thanks Mike!

  • @electrolatif
    @electrolatif10 ай бұрын

    3psi for brazing

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    10 ай бұрын

    3 CFH, thanks

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 Жыл бұрын

    It will tank awhile for the dry nitrogen to push out air or residual refrigerant thru the entire system, NO way to really tell how long to purge out as every system a bit differant, keep in mind long line sets and the A-coil / evaporator ALL has to be purged!!!!

  • @sugarfreementos
    @sugarfreementos7 жыл бұрын

    what percent copper silver rods are thoes and what type of flux?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    7 жыл бұрын

    Here is the link to the 15% braze rod I typically use. I use 15% on all systems and that would be considered the best thing to do. Also I have not found a time even on very small systems when I could not use a braze rod vs silver solder. Braze rod is also required for r410a systems. No flux is used. - amzn.to/2q0KHN5 ACSERVICETECH is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

  • @David-mo2zq
    @David-mo2zq3 жыл бұрын

    All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right..... It's like listening to a school girl saying like like like.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bad habit but I don't believe it is present on any of the newer videos over the last couple years. I apologize!

  • @jean9910
    @jean99105 жыл бұрын

    Won’t the expansion valve prevent the nitrogen from entering the liquid line?

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    For air conditioning, they usually do not close down all the way at 0 atmospheric pressure, you can feel the flow at the open port, thanks!

  • @alfredrein699
    @alfredrein6996 жыл бұрын

    The secret is, how do you get a 6 mm copper tube expanded

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    We usually buy a coupler or use another tube size as a coupler for anything smaller than 1/4"acr, thanks!

  • @Chris-H00
    @Chris-H005 жыл бұрын

    Very good. However I hate to say it most of the people that do the braising don't use the nitrogen. I've gotten onto them so many times and they threatened to even fire me because I made such a big deal about it. There is a lot of corruption in this industry to.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you are in a lower position in the company then you kind of have to go with the flow but when you are running the job site yourself then you can make sure that those under you are doing it properly. It is a waiting game sometimes for newer techs, thanks!

  • @darrell45013
    @darrell450135 жыл бұрын

    does this work with txv

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes it does, thanks!

  • @davidheins8754
    @davidheins87545 жыл бұрын

    Nitrogen is not really an inert gas like helium, argon, etc. etc. . Nitrogen will combine with other elements to make compounds. Just wanted to correct you on that.

  • @Froggability

    @Froggability

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not copper

  • @jameswasher3938
    @jameswasher39385 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm, I've never seen nitrogen in a red bottle.

  • @acservicetechchannel

    @acservicetechchannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Nitrogen comes in many different color bottles, nothing specific from any of the gas distributors around here, thanks!

  • @Alanski340
    @Alanski340 Жыл бұрын

    Fuck that, just weld it .