I always like to square the fence to the blade with a 12” combination square, put the body against the blade (gently) and the ruler part against the vice jaw. It’s really accurate because the ruler extends across the whole vise jaw, not just a couple inches. Another trick I was taught was with the saw upright and the cover opened, cut a piece of paper into 1” strips in the long direction (with scissors of course, not the bandsaw!). Insert the paper 90 degrees to the blade and rotate the adjustable wheel to pull the paper between it and the blade. Rotate it until the paper comes out the other side of the rotation. If your tracking (wheel) is adjusted right, the paper will have a sharp bend in it . If it’s cut in two, it means the blade is being forced into the wheel flange which wears out both the wheel and blade. If the bend isn’t sharp, the blade needs to be adjusted closer to the flange. As for all the questions about tracking adjustments, nearly everyone of these saws I’ve seen require loosening the bolt closest to the handle, and turning the adjacent bolt in or out to adjust. Then re-tighten the other bolt and recheck with the paper method. These things can be made into really accurate saws, but only through sweat equity!

@mightydeathlash2867

2 жыл бұрын

Do a vid on this please. Hard to visualize. Would appreciate it. If you do make a vid, make sure to notify me here plz.

7 years later your video is still helpful. 👌🤙👍 Thank you

I've been woodworking for quite sometime but I'm brand new to metal work. My son and I just picked up a 4x6 and this video was just the ticket for setting it up. Very similar to my bandsaw but your on this were invaluable. Thanks.

The rule guide adjustment is genius!!! I decided to take today off the garage but tomorrow I’m definitely doing this!

You just saved my bacon!! My bandsaw was so out of wack out of the box it's unbelievable. Thank you so much.

I just bought a 25yr old neglected saw and have cleaned it up and ready to set it up. Great tips to guide me along the way so thanks for taking the time to do the video!

It's always good to learned something about something I don't know os I THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME SOMETHING NEW

Thank you for making this video. It really helped me a lot in adjusting my saw. God bless you and yours.

Thanks for the video, I had just changed from a 18 tooth blade to 6 tooth and it was throwing the blade, went right back to zero and adjusted everything as per your video, working now.

I just bought an old jet band saw looks just like yours. Great video thanks!

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

louis dellanno Thanks Bud!!☺

Thank you for making this video. This made understanding the cause of my issues so simplistic. My saw is cutting like a champ now!

I have tried the other methods with making a cut, observing the resulting non-square angles in the cut and adjusting. Using a machinists square etc. The 1-2-3 block really did the trick for me. Watched your video yesterday, spent some time fiddling with the saw last night and got it to 1mm off over a 50mm cut. Not perfect, but I will for sure work some more on it! Great video that helped me out with my saw. Thank you!

Just finished putting the harbor freight saw together. I knew I need to set it up but didn't know how. Thanks much!

Thanks a lot! My bandsaw was not cutting straight and adjusting was needed. Your video gave me useful information and now it's much better.

A dozen years ago I purchased an Enco version of this saw at a yard sale for $40. The seller said he could never get it to perform and had given up on it. Here I am a dozen years later and today was my final effort to get this saw tuned up. Watching this video just might be all I need to get it running. Thanks for sharing.

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

That's cool!! I hope it works for you!! Sometimes a bad or old blade will make it cut crooked too!!☺

I'm here in 2021. Great video dude! Thanks

Thanks bud, just bought an old 81' real cheap and giving it a clean up. This will help alot

Good news! Using the info you provided I got my saw cutting square today. A big thanks to you.

@805ROADKING

5 жыл бұрын

Cool!!☺

Super useful, helped me greatly. Thank you for sharing!

just the video I was looking for. Thanks

Best one I have seen so far. Takes the guess work out of it. Thanks a million.

Great video, well done...just what I needed. Thanks!

Just wanted to tell you a friend gave me a saw exactly in this condition. Just needed a little TLC. I had no idea how to true or square up the blade. Thank you so much!!!!

@805ROADKING

8 жыл бұрын

+Katheleen Chaney That's cool!! I'm glad you found the video!!☺

@katheleenchaney4871

7 жыл бұрын

would love to send you pictures of it finished. I could not have done it without you

Thank you, Great Video! I can't wait to try your advice later today.

THATS GREAT. i never thought about putting a straightedge between the guides. awesome vid THANX

Oh Hell Yea!! Very good video Roadking, THAT is how its done, very articulate and concise as to how all the finite adjustments are made. This video is very useful and I highly recommend this one be shared as a "How To". Great job Roadking! I was first to like this video.

Excellent breakdown and diagnostic on how these are adjusted and set. I do not own one of these but need to use one only occasionally at my work ... and was having a hard time getting a square cut. Having seen this I'm confident I'll be able to diagnose and adjust the saw to cut more true. Thanks.

Thanks for the video! Just what i was looking for

Thanks for the walk through on your saw. I have a wilton that I have never used. In fact I haven't used a horizontal band saw ever.

Hard pressed to find many people these days that call their metal straight edge a scale or line gauge. I needed this reminder, haven't used one of these since I was a kid, but about to buy one.

Thank you very much. Very helpful. No extremely helpful. I'm happy I found your video.

Excellent video and very helpful. Happy New Year!

Thanks for posting. I have an Enco version of your saw and it has cut square for 20 years.....until recently. I did all the adjustments I could think of but to no avail. I didn't realize, until I watched your video, that one of the guide bearings has a cam action. I'm going to look again armed with this knowledge. Thanks for taking the time!

@805ROADKING

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you found the video!! Good luck!!☺

@robc8468

5 жыл бұрын

Don't to change out all the guide bearings they are a wear item and inexpensive to replace with stock ebay bearings.

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I just picked up a used one and need to adjust the settings. Thx

@805ROADKING

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Bud!! Good luck with your Saw!!☺

My last video was a complete overhaul of this same saw. These adjustments were off a bit now that I've seen this. Thanks for posting.

@805ROADKING

7 жыл бұрын

Them things are great when they're set up right!!☺

Brilliant. I'm gonna fix it tomorrow, after watching this I know I was on the right track. Thankyou

Thank you, this has been a vexing problem! Thank you so much!

Fantastic instructional video! Thank you!

@805ROADKING

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Orr Thanks Bud!!☺

Your video was VERY helpful and very well done . I have a ( beloved ) 1940's Wells which works great but better now thanks to your informative and generous video . Thank You . Johnnie C . Nova Scotia

@805ROADKING

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bud!!☺

thanks for making this video. I recently purchased a saw like this and the written instructions are incomplete. you have been immensely helpful, especially since I am new to this piece of equipment.

@805ROADKING

7 жыл бұрын

That's cool!! I'm glad you found the video!! Good luck!!☺

Great vid! Am buying a 1969 Craftsman which needs a little work, but after a cleaning and applying this procedure I'm betting it will run like a champ!

Great information as I'm thinking of buying one of these roadking

Great video. You and the guys are great together. Its rare now days to see people getting together on a regular basis having fun and enjoying a hobby together that they like. I may not comment much but watch and like all your vids. Whish i lived closer would like to meet you and the gang. Keep up the great videos and work.

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks alot Bud!!☺

nice, really impressed !

Helps me! Thank you.

Thanks for the help

Thanks ,it's very helpful.We had a same problem too.I am going to fix it tomorrow.

excellent video, just saved the day here!

Thanks so much this has helped me alot

Cool stuff, have been adjusting our schools bandsaw quite a bit.

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah the more people that use it, the more ya gotta readjust it!!☺

Just want to say thank you for a great video that really helped me out. You video explained exactly what I was looking for and terms that I understand. I hope to get my saw tuned in tomorrow now that I know how to adjust it. The book did not help at all. I see that the thanks are a few years late for you just the info is great for me today.

@805ROADKING

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks alot Bud!! I'm glad you found the video, Good Luck!!☺

Great video, I have a Dayton bandsaw that looks very similar to your's, but it looks like I may be able to do the same adjustments. thanks for the video!

@805ROADKING

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bud!! It's probably the same one, they rebranded them saws with a hundred different names!!☺

Thank you for this Video. This will help me a lot.

@805ROADKING

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Bud, I'm glad you found the video!!☺

Very informative. Thank you for taking the time to teach us 🙏

@805ROADKING

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Bud!!☺

Great info , Bet this will help a ton of folks out man !!

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

ShawnMrFixit Lee Thanks Bud!! Hopefully it will!!☺

thanks for this! super helpful.

thanks for the video, I have the same problem with my band saw, now I know how to fix it. thanks again

@805ROADKING

7 жыл бұрын

That's cool!! Good luck!!☺

Thanks mate very helpful

Thanks a lot, you made my day

very helpful video, thx!

I have been using that same MSC bandsaw over 20 years now. I never had a problem with it except for cheap blades. You get what you pay for. I use Olsen blades, I never had any good luck with any of the HF blades. It is my number one metal cutting tool. I use it as much in the vertical position as I do horizontal. The vertical table that came with it works fine, but most ot the time I just use the guide foot plate as is.

hi there, nice video i have a question, when you were tracking the blade so it would run true by inclining the idler wheel with the jacking screws, what is the position of the drive wheel in relation to this? does it stay parallel in relation to the saw body or does it need inclined as well? i was given a startrite bandsaw that required the gearbox rebuilt, there is jacking screws on it also although the manual only seems to mention the idler for adjustment, any thoughts greatly appreciated!

That's a good tool, and a good job setting it up mate :)

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

Malcolm Brown Thanks Mate!! We use that thing alot!!☺

Thanks for the info. I'll adjust mine today. But who taught you to tighten a micrometer? That little knob at the end is there for a reason.

G'day thank you very much for making this video it has helped me a great deal. My bandsaw is new but out of adjustment and the manual that came with it really lakes what you have covered. Thank you once again great help John Tasmania Australia PS have subscribed

@805ROADKING

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mate!! I'm glad you found the video!! Good luck with it!!☺

@johnkinnane547

7 жыл бұрын

805ROADKING G'day used your adjusting methods and it is now fairly accurate thank you once again you stop what was becoming a very frustrating job. Kind regards John

thanks! Great info.

With the guide bearing adjustment my manual says the inside bearings are non adjustable as you just said but my one has all four bearings adjustable which makes it bloody hard to set up. I bought a new £22 ($30) bi-metal blade last week and promptly fucked it up because I couldn't get the adjustment right. I've just made two new unadjustable bearing spigots to the same dimensions as the originals but the bearing pivot is concentric with the 10 mm threaded mounting. As for the adjustment it says in the manual that a 0.025" thick blade should have one thou clearance so it should be in theory just a matter of putting a 0.026" feeler gauge between the bearing surfaces. But when you have all four of the bearings adjustable then it's a nightmare to get right. Well I've put the old blade back in with the new pivots and it runs ok so I'll order a new blade this week and try it out!

I have Enco's bigger cousin of that saw (12" wide capacity). Melts through anything I put in it. You sound like a young guy, was nice to see you are older (like me :)) Nice trick with the scale, though some might consider it heresy

great video and convenient for me i just got me an atlas clausen on cl without a blade, a motor and a belt the other day fortunately yesterday one of my reeve pulleys on my delta drill press exploded and now i got the motor for the saw - i have no idea what im going to do with the drill press for now because i have 4 different projects goin on simultaneously right now before i undergo surgery and the clock is ticking the belt i will probably get it from the autoparts store and the blade from sears i know how to cut with these babies but i dont know much about its technicalities now with your instructional video finally i got an answer there are probably thousands of videos or websites that talk about this topic - who knows, but your instruction and advice goes right to what is expected overall after watching how careful you was on the demonstration and your proficiency on the adjustment made to that horizontal saw blade now i will be able to work on mine i just paid $75 for my saw, and a guy who collects them offer me $800 the day after i got it - he probably thaught im stupid or something lol 😄 he told me i could get me one from hb with that money and have some extra cash to spend on other gadgets as well, yeah right; i thaught about it for a while because of the missing parts it needs and its resulting service - i was about to give up but i really want my baby! it was very pleasant to watch you doing this service to that saw and now i feel confident after watching it thanks for your time and expertise 😀

@805ROADKING

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bud!!☺

Great info on how this is done Using the Scale / straight edge helped to see how you line it up

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

not2fast4u2c Thanks Jim!! The scale makes things alot easier!!☺

6:50 whick bolts are you turning to adjust the bottom wheel... Thanks for posting

Where did you turn to adjust the blade in the pulley?

Thank you for this

Good one, thanks!.

Hey, are you still using this bandsaw? I'm considering buying one similar, but am wary about some things I'm seeing about them. How many blades do you go through? Do you get good square cuts consistently?

How about tension on the blade from the big drive wheels? I have an issue where my blade will get caught up on the material while the drive wheels keep spinning and i keep cranking on the knob to tighten the blade with no luck.

Hi 805ROADKING . What causes the bandsaw blade(horizontal) to cut the metal inclined . My Regards .

Definitely helped

Great video interesting, my saw is running fine but i noticed yesterday some vibration

good tip putting a steel rule between the rollers, thanks

Can you run a 3/4" blade on one of these?

I have a small metal bandsaw, 'METALLKRAFT MBS 105' and the band jumps off at the drive wheel side. I have to adjust wheel tracking and blade guidance (at the roller bearings). Questions: What to do first: First wheel tracking and then blade guidance - or - first blade guidance and then wheel tracking? please help. thx!

thanks so much thats helpful

Your saw looks identical to a Dayton 3z360C. Anyone have amanual for the Dayton 3Z360C? Great video! I learned alot. Thanks so much!! Where is or was MSC located?

Hi. I bought new one and can't adjust blade in back wheel (motor shaft wheel). Everything align in front/top wheel, just facing edge, very nice. But back wheel seems to pull off the blade and only half size is touching wheel. Any idea how to adjust?

Good video👍🏼

Excellent video. I just bought one of these made by "Buffalo Tools" looks to be very similar. Its getting an overhaul. This video is a great source of info for my project. Thanks -Will

@805ROADKING

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bud!! Good luck!!☺

@davidwhitt84

5 жыл бұрын

I got the same "BuffalO" saw. looks identical to this one! works great

I have an old 4x6 bandsaw from Harbor Freight with a manufacturing date of 1993 on it. It looks like a genuine Rong Fu built one to me. It also says it is made in Taiwan. So its the good stuff.

@1pcfred

7 жыл бұрын

Defnotdemas Central Machinery. So a Harbor Freight re-brand.

@robc8468

5 жыл бұрын

I also have the Taiwan version from the late 1980's (BC) "Before China" fit and finish is way nicer than the current H/F China version. Any idea what bearing size(s) are used for the guides?

Thank you

Great tips and advice! That disc is as straight as a coin :)

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

creamofcardstv Thanks Mate!!☺

This video was just what i needed to solve my adjustment problem. Was wondering what kind of metal blade you use?

@805ROADKING

3 жыл бұрын

I use an Olson 14 TPI part# HB71764

Could you give your blade a "twang" so I can hear your tension? I might be able to "tune" in?

Definitely good to have machinery working right! Great video! :) Jack

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

Jack R Thanks Jack!!☺

I've got the same saw,my blade runs off the big wheels the two bolts you didn't show adjusts them do you go in or out?

@AlmightyMister

3 жыл бұрын

I have a similar machine, there could be a third screw (mine it's hex set screw).

@kentuckytrapper780

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlmightyMister I'll check that out, thanks man.

Nice video thank you, but when you adjusted the alignment of the blade running on the pulleys you didn't show what you actually did?

Good Morning RoadKing,...I have a saw almost exactly like yours,...mine is a "Jet' ,..and I have the same problem with that angled cut through the flat stock when cutting from the edge down,...did you re-check this ? Also maybe the best way, ( if it will fit ) is to lay it on it's flat side and cut that way,..what do you think ? Good video too, good tips there, thanks Master.

@805ROADKING

9 жыл бұрын

Reg Sparkes Good morning Reg!! Once I readjusted everything it cut fine!! Laying it flat works but it seems like it takes forever to cut that way!!☺

I have the same HF red version. Bottom wheel doesn't pull blade centered.

Hi , I just bought a Ram Machinery horizontal floor bandsaw . Name plate says size of blade is 64.5" x .5 x 1/80" . Not having any luck finding this blade . Any suggestions ? It is old , 1987 but good shape . It is 4x6 with 3/4 HP . If I can't find said size what would be best to use safely ?

@805ROADKING

2 ай бұрын

That's a common size blade, you can get them at Harbor Freight!! Don't worry about the 1/80, that's just the thickness of the blade all manufacturers are different!! I get mine from Ebay, Olson 64.5 x 1/2 18 TPI (teeth per in)

@marksayre1358

2 ай бұрын

@@805ROADKING Thank you for your comments. I discussed this situation with my brother and other manufacturers employees that .025 $ .020 would be fine . It just had me worked for a bit . Machine was made in 1987 but is in very good shape . All is good in the neighborhood . Put a blade on it yesterday and it cuts well . I'm happy . Thanks again !

thank you! I am actually going through a Carolina Industrial HD10 I purchased recently. the bearings are totally shot, everything else but the downfeed is in decent shape. some new berings and rebuilding the downfeed and your insight to what I already assumed will have my saw cutting straight!

thax for showing me this now I can make coints