You are the rare instance to have recorded the transition of your body shape, this is most amazing! I have very similar knee looking like you used to have. This is giving me so much confidence!

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Amy Wang yes its true!! And yes you should be confident and proud because you have a beautiful and amazing body that is capable of unbelievable things, it just needs your trust and belief as well as a little push in the right direction

Oh my goodness you’ve just absolutely changed my life!!!! My knees are very bent and I didn’t think they would change... I’ve been doing many stretches for the hamstrings etc for 6 months joe and my knees are now hyperextended and create the best lines. Thank you so much with sharing this knowledge xx❤️❤️

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

This is amazing!! Thank you for commenting and letting me know! I am so so glad I was able to help you! ❤️ 💕 Please keep going!!

@franciscos.2301

3 жыл бұрын

Who's Joe?

you're so inspiring, seeing how before you had technique struggles and now you dance like a vaganova student is really amazing

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

sketti skettimen thank you so much!! That means the world to me! ❤️

remember guys: natural hyperextension is bone structure, but you can lengthen the muscles behind your knee to get longer muscles, therefore allowing you to achieve the hyperextended leg look as much as possible.

@ami-do5ku

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt it is bone structure ... Is just weight distribution

I had one teacher who told me to stretch fro the backs of the legs but I never really understood it until now, thankyou!

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Rhianna Spooner of course! I am so thrilled that i could help!! ❤️❤️

@RhiannaSpooner

6 жыл бұрын

Your improvement is so inspiring, gorgeous technique! Of Ballet Conrad, would you recommend any of his dvds or can you find all the important information in his youtube videos? thankyou ❤❤❤

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Rhianna Spooner yes rhianna i definitely recommend his 6hr placement video! I have watched it and analyzed it several times and it has helped me alot! I have not looked into the other dvds yet but i will soon! And yes his podcasts are also helpful but not as much as his main dvd!!

@RhiannaSpooner

6 жыл бұрын

Vegan On Pointe Okey dokey, thanks for sharing! Xx

I got SO excited when I saw you uploaded a video!! This makes so much sense and your before and after photos are truly amazing! I've only been training properly at a Vaganova -based school for about a year and a half, but have definitely noticed that my legs are so much straighter when I'm dancing. I'm excited to try some of the exercises you show in your video to improve them further. Currently one of my legs is hyperextended and the other is just straight. :(

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

thehappyveganballerina i am so glad you enjoyed the video! And i am even more thrilled you have found a perfect place to continue your training in! Please keep me up to date! I love hearing positive outcomes that come from my tips! Good luck on your journey❤️❤️

I'm so glad you filmed this video! It's so helpful! And the progress you made! Just incredible! You inspired me to start working on my legs again

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

I have to say a big thank you to you for sharing this. As a diver, the biggest stick I’ve had from our performance director is my leg line and form. I’ve been doing these exercises and the ones on your toe point video for a couple of months now and I have to say I’ve noticed a real improvement. Thank you!

Wow your progress is really amazing and inspiring! Very nice and helpful video!!

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

S G thank you! I truly appreciate your comment❤️❤️😊😊 it means alot to hear that!

Thank you very much !!!! I have been waiting for this video for a loooooooonggggg time and was disappointed after months of waiting. Now I'm so thrilled and am excited to try out the techniques you have taught me !!!! so generous of you to share your knowledge and passion!!!! Love from Hong Kong !

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment! I am sorry it took so long, the topic is not easy to grasp ( especially when there is so much controversy) nor to apply it correctly if it is not within the context of placement. I wanted to document the changes and also convey it appropriately.

I am born with a liiiiittle hyper extension😊💪💖

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

That is great! Make sure you use it correctly as outlined in the video to prevent any injuries! :)

@violettas.5402

6 жыл бұрын

Vegan On Pointe sure! 💖

Thanks VeganOnPointe, thanks a lot. 🌸🙏🌸

wow, very helpful video! This is totally my problem as well! I had sort of given up on my legs, but this inspires me to go back working on it.

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

mvugt im so glad! Thanks for watching!! ❤️

I've always wanted really nice, deep hyper-extensions, but I thought my legs were really bad (meaning straight). It wasn't until I was doing some exercises in front of my old dance teacher, and she commented on my hyper-extension being nice for someone who never really worked on it (I never knew the right exercises to do lol). I'm very glad to be able to work towards improving my extensions though! Thank you for uploading this video!! 💗💗

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

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This is fantastic!!!! Thank you!

This video explains the concept in such a clear way I've never see in explained before tysm :)

This is amazing! I tried the tricks and it immediately improved my turnout and my line a ton! Thank you

I had no idea that it was possible. There are girls in my class younger than me (in their teens) who have it naturally. I thought it was something you’re only born with. This gives me hope :) thank you!

This helped me so much. Thank you.

thank you so much for this video! i will try to remember all the tips you gave, as well as stretching my hamstrings and the back leg muscles! i’ve always hated my knees; they’re something called “hypo-extended”, which basically means they look bent even when i’m straightening them

Thank you!

Very nice Lara.

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Balletmusic DK thank you so much! ❤️

Very interesting video Lara!

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Imogen Walters Thank you so much Imogen! So nice to hear from you😊

Wow, I’m really impressed with yr vids. I have the exact same issues but never got that technique (except for the weight on the heels thing) even tho I was taught the Russian style. Thank you!!

I'm just seeing your video now, and I think it's so helpful. I do naturally have hyperextension, but I always thought that my lines looked a little off when my quad muscles were defined so much in turnout (I naturally have quite thin legs, but I knew something was wrong). It is difficult right now to differentiate between when I am just using the quad and when I am using my hamstrings and calves as well, but I am trying to think of reaching out and lengthening through the back of my legs rather than "locking down" through my quads and kneecaps. I think it will help a lot in strengthening my supporting legs and increasing my turnout (I have bowed legs so turning out is a little bit more difficult, I am soooo close to perfect turnout but not quite flat if you know what I mean). Sorry for such a long post!

I have natural hyperextension in my legs and it was SO hard to get over my box for a while! At least u built the strength before you had the hyperextension, your legs look great!!

OH MY GOODNESS you are a godsend!!!! Thank you so much for informing us, my legs and lines have been looking SOOO much better thanks to you! Keep up the amazing work!

Thank you SO MUCH! I just watched the video and tried the lengthen your leg thing and it helped SO much!

you are obv a pro ..i kind of feel like hyperextension is something you shouldn't mess around with as an amateur ..i shall leave this to you guys!

@VeganOnPointe

4 жыл бұрын

The video is for pre-professional stream. It helped many in this art form. The stretches are performed in Russian school with students in preparatory level doing floor barre right up to higher levels.

Hey, just a simple question, what’s the most important thing I have to learn before putting into practice the exercises you’ve shown? I would really like to make my knees hyperextended, beautiful video and thank you in advance 💕🥰

Wow the progress you made is really amazing! I will try to apply these concepts in my classes. What age did you start ballet?

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Aurora B yes please and let me know how the progression goes for you! I started ballet when i was 12 but didnt start with correct training until i was 17! So quite late! But if you are dedicated and passionate time and age is not a problem💕

I'm naturally hyperextended and my training added to it, it's great bc my teacher gives me compliments about it and it's so??? validating??

Can’t wait to practice this! It’s safe to do this right?? I wanted to make sure doing this wouldn’t cause an achilles tear.

Oh thank you this video is great!! 😍 how long did it take you to achieve hyperextension ? My legs are actually hypo-extended 🙄 not a great look

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Alisha Stokes i believe it took me a year or so but thats only because it took time to not only learn how to stretch and engage the right muscles but also even more time to make sure i apply it everyday in class! That will be the hardest part but i promise you it does not take as long as you think! As long as you are aware and pay attention everyday you shouldnt be worried❤️

@alishastokes3990

6 жыл бұрын

Vegan On Pointe Thank you so much for your help! ❤

@viennad-9184

5 жыл бұрын

Alisha Stokes mine are too

You have beautiful legs 😍😍 thanks for the vídeo, I have normal legs, and I will follow this video for get better legs ❤ thank you

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Alexis Ortiz thank you so much! I truly appreciate it! I really hope it has helped you❤️

great video, thank you! you are very inspiring and the progress you made through the years is amazing! just one question: when I’m doing theses exercises, especially the one on the floor with legs straight forward, I feel it after a lot in the outside of my thighs. Is it normal or am I doing something wrong?

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

You are not rotating enough from the inner thighs and sartorias. It is ok to feel the muscles on the insde and the outside of your thight but NEVER the quads on top of your thigh. That may mean your not turning out enough or stretching your knees enough! Play around with intensity maybe you are gripping too much and need go do less intensity! Its hard for me to say withojt seeing but please let me know how it goes!

@s.m.1681

5 жыл бұрын

Vegan On Pointe thank you so much! it’s just the outside that I feel. I will let you know how I am doing!

@s.m.1681

4 жыл бұрын

I've been doing your exercises and it's much better ,thank you soooo much!!🙏😊

Wow no way! Not even a week since I started doing this and I have gotten about 5cm of hyperextention

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

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I have never been able to close my heels together, now I understand why. But isn't hyper extension really bad for your knee health? I think I won't work it even though it looks beautiful

question: what if my teachers demand that i have my heels right together despite me having quite a bit of hyperextension? what you showed about the heels having a space between them makes a lot of sense to me but i think my teachers will always tell me to have my heels together all the way

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

sketti skettimen well in that case its possible your teacher doesnt quite understand turnout and placement. They might be very well knowledged in other aspects though! I would try taking classes with other teachers and see if its a better fit! I am always open to trying classes with other teachers! If you have found a teacher you like and work well with try talking to them and explain that your legs cannot stretch fully when the heels are together and you therefore cant connect to your turnout, but if they still insist on the heels together (i have experienced that as well) i would keep them apart when they werent looking and fix it only when they looked. Ik its wrong but sometimes you know your body better than others and you must do what is best for you. I also would do the same exercise after the class with the heels apart to make sure i got the right feeling of the stretch of the legs and turnout. Ballet class should be about improving and working for yourself not about pleasing or proving to others! You must keep that in mind.

Can the size of the muscle of the calves help the hyper extended knee ? Or we just have to really extend the knee ?

I’m not very smart so I had a lot of trouble understanding this video I used to have extreamly hyper extended legs but after many surgeries on my knees I don’t I can hardly straighten them and my teachers always yell at me for having bent knees but they feel super straight to me and I can’t help it so I’m trying to find ways to at least get them straight. I’m actually very flexible I have my oversplits and I have very flexible hamstrings i feel like I don’t know how to straighten my legs it always feels wrong and painful. I also have v bad turnout I just don’t know what to do I’m 13 and I really had trouble understanding a lot of things u were saying in this video and I don’t know who to ask for help if someone could help me I would really appreciate it

Very helpful video, thank you But my dear, why are you clawing your toes in the tendu? I hope it's not a habit, cuz I use to do the same and am now working on stopping that and instead trying to more push the ball of the foot down and the actual pointing of the foot isn't that much work for me compared to getting that ankle down if you know what i mean. Sorry, I don't wanna criticize & if you're offended just ignore the comment :) i still love your channel

@kiziscott9210

3 жыл бұрын

This really helped me woth my points!

Could we get the exercises with a music corresponding to the subject?

I’m having trouble getting rid of the space under the knees as well as feeling the engagement of the back of the leg. What would you recommend?

One question : when you’re using your whole leg, is it okay if your hamstrings activate with the rest of the leg or do they need to be relaxed?

@AllieHutchins

5 жыл бұрын

They should be active!

Hi, I have over-developped quads and I can't really strech my leg fully. When you do this exercices are your quads active? It's hard for me to strech my leg without over-contracting my quad. Help

@lialistens1027

3 жыл бұрын

Me too I’m having the same problem

I was diagnosed with hyper mobility when I was 3 but I don’t have hyperextended knees 😭

(English is not my first language) I really hope this can help, I had the worst bent knees, then I had a bad bad injury in my left leg muscles and now just my left knee is hyper extended, I hope the other one can become the same, I hate the way they look together and the way I feel, thank you ❤

@VeganOnPointe

2 ай бұрын

It can and will help, i believe in you 😊🙏

Hi 👋 my legs are so straight like you had before and i know that they don't look nice... Also I injured my knees last year so I'm a little afraid if these exercises might make my knees hurt ..Please help me because I want hyperextention legs bc I want to be a dancer (sorry for my bad English)

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

Do the exercises slowly and cautiously with great attention to which muscles you use and how you use them! It is not about working hard or strong but instead working smart! Working intelligently with awareness will never make you hurt! Please try and let me know :)

Dang why did I get hyperextended arms instead of legs 😭

i have been practicing this in class, but for some reason it hyperextends in the center, but when i stretch my legs on the floor, my heels don't go up.

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Jacqueline Soraire thats very interesting!!! Its possible that because you are developing hyperextension in a functional way rather than in a static stretching way. There are many who can get their heels off the floor because they are hypermobile but when they start dancing their knees are bent all the time because they are not strong enough. So it is possible you have the developed the strength of fully stretched knees that they look hyperextended but have not reached your full potential flexibility wise. When you stretch your knees on the floor, does the back of the knee touch the floor? Or is there still some space?? Would you be able to send me a picture sitting and standing to show me?? Do you have instagram or facebook? If not maybe email? I really want to help! But i just need a visual to truly understand!! ❤️

I don’t understand the video, what are the exercises?

I go to a school that uses the Vaganova technique and they always insist on keeping the weight in your metatarsals and keeping your heels together in first, even when you have hyperextension, so is it just my school that does that? Also, I don't know why, but I find it much it easier to balance and do tendus and stuff like that with my weight in my metatarsals. Is that normal? (PS. I loved your video, it explained a lot)

@dpara22

5 жыл бұрын

Dance claiming they do vaganova does not mean they teach vaganova! The weight in the metatarsals is the modern insanity leading to lower limbs injuries! The weight should be distributed on the entire foot with focus or energy through the heels. This is the only way the turnout is held and maintained through stretched knees and heels. That is how one develops it and that is the only way to maintain it. Any teacher requesting bent knees / weight in the balls ; and place more importance on. Feet together rather than stretched knees - have no idea what turnout is ; nor what classical ballet is ..I understand Balanchine had to work with dancers with no turnout ; hence most of his choreos were done in parallel sharp and quick movements to hide the lack of proper technique; having to do his choreography does not mean train with no turnout ; stretched knees etc. I would really like to know where and how this distortion happened? How did we advance but in fact regressed so much to compromise on the classical ballet and health of dancers. When I see dancers on pointe never putting their heels down - I get so angry - as I can see exactly where the bad habit is coming from! I blame the uneducated teachers ; most of whom have never actually gone to proper formal school to obtain their pedagogy like Russians do. Vaganova is taught only by pedagogues that trained for 8-9 years ; danced during their career and then they went to spend another 4-5 years in becoming pedagogues and choreographs. Their specialty in pedagogy could be beginner teacher ; intermediate or finishing teachers, these people have to contribute with research articles to their scientific database .

@dpara22

5 жыл бұрын

If you are balancing better on metatarsals that means you are not in alignment of true turnout !

Ok so here the thing, I have hyperextension but I still feel after watching the video that maybe I’m doing it wrong. I feel a lot of quad gripping and can’t get a hold of the rest of the muscles besides calves....

@dpara22

4 жыл бұрын

Anna Ballet have you tried to massage and release hamstrings? For the quads to lengthen the hamstrings will have to do the same .

i still genuinely can’t stretch my leg 😭😭i can only pull up my knee cap and lock my knee in place, which hurts while i’m standing at the barre for a long time. i tried stretching out my legs to get hyperextension yesterday but now the bottom of my thighs by my kneecap hurtss 😭😭. i have the same problems with extensions, i keep gripping my quads and can never get it high despite all my turning out :/

@lialistens1027

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!!!

Does this work?

My legs just don’t engage that way now matter how hard I try my knees just lock

I was born with it and a lot of my friends make fun of me they call me banana😅 knees I don't care I love my knee , and am proud of it

what type of yoga block is that?

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Jacqueline Soraire i cant quite remember but i did get it from Winners! I believe it is either body sport or gaiam! It is for sure on the smaller size like 3 inch yoga block!

How long do you hold these streches?

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

As long as you feel it is necessary. I do not do many repetitions or long holds. I do slow and short amount of exercises but with great attention and detail!

I'd like to offer a serious warning to any young dancers out there looking to achieve such extreme hyperextension. It's often considered a blessing to be born with hyperextension. However, though it is considered aesthetically pleasing in most forms of dance, hyperextension of the foot and leg is actually causing damage, especially to those whose bodies have not finished developing. A ballet teacher of mine is unable to teach pointe classes anymore, because her legs have suffered years of damage from forced turnout and hyperextended knees. Her career as a professional dancer was cut short, like those of many others, because she deals with early-onset conditions in her feet and legs. The teacher continues to hold beginner and intermediate ballet classes, and takes care not to push her legs to the limit when demonstrating. She's not the only one, either. Some instructors and physical therapists around the globe are reconsidering the technique we're taught, because of its impracticality for those looking into a lengthy and healthy dance career. Setting weight into our heels can further allow for hyperextension, but it also inhibits the foot's strength to rise up, because the body's weight is not spread across the toes; we don't balance on our heels, we balance on our toes and the balls of our feet. Using the muscles surrounding the calf and knee to lift the lower leg seems innocent when weight is not resting on the leg; however, when standing the necessary muscles disengage as turnout occurs, so benign weight is forced into the calves. Hyperextending our legs locks our knees into a forced position, which doesn't require as much strength as lengthening our legs into a straight line. Pointing our feet to the extremes causes strain in the metatarsals, which can make balancing more difficult, especially en pointe. To counter this difficulty, our heels may instinctively roll in because of forced turnout or strain on the arches. Bowed legs can result from rolling in our arches and locking our knees. I have similar issues with my feet because of my hyperextension. Thankfully, my dance instructors are open to learning about the human body, and they enjoy helping us with proper extensions and turnout after class, as they know the damage improper placement can cause. I apologize if this comment came out negatively; I only aim to warn younger dancers that forcing hyperextension on our developing joints can cause injury and later issues that could be prevented. And in my opinion, your clean straight extensions are beautiful in the beginning, despite your discontentedness with them.

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

ILikeCuteCats AndICannotLie thank you for your comment ! I appreciate an educated conversation on this topic! Please clarify- have you ever danced professionally ? Do you have pedagogy in ballet - or the studies of the science of art in ballet? and lastly are you a health care professional with degree in science studying the field as it pertains to ballet ( not dance in general)? I will elaborate on your fallacious statement afterwards ! I don’t doubt your teacher had to cut her career short; many do for not understanding their bodies ; not studying, not grasping what initiates their movements; what is the proper placement of their body to support their movements ;not adhering to proper warm up conditioning ; or rehabilitation at the end of the days. Most of these former dancers copied the movements without understanding, many even to these days don’t understand turnout, the execution of proper plie; etc. There is a difference between sitting in your hyperextensions - which your teacher most likely did; and using the ( connective tissue) muscles to stretch the joints in supportive way , which is not only vital in in the energy lines ; but also for your dancers health. Actually the joint should never be loose ! Please know, I have never incurred any injuries during training and now in my professional experience ! Read the long comments below!

@chalkedlines8960

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I have natural hyperextension and always pressed down into my heels to help hold my turnout and now at 38, my knees are shot: arthritis in both and chronic tendinitis in one along with a weak ankle from rolling that foot inward.

How long does it take ??

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Anissa it does not take as long as one might think. It will only take as long as your mind sets you to it. If you focus on stretching them and using your legs properly everyday they will develop the correct muscles and memory! You must be consistent and dedicated and it will happen in no time! But of course be patient and dont get frustrated with yourself because it is possible you just have to believe and work at it

@anissa2420

6 жыл бұрын

Vegan On Pointe thank you so much ! I'll try to strech everyday !

Bloate on pointe

How many times a month or year does the Russian Ballet Companies perform?

@lollylula6399

6 жыл бұрын

Top Russian ballet companies - Bolshoi 6 days a week, Mariinsky - 3/4 days a week.

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Im sorry but i cannot give you an accurate number. That is not something i would know. I would visit the theatre every month as they would perform different ballets quite often and the theatre gave students of the academy very cheap tickets that i got to take advantage of while i was there!

I only use my quads for straightening my knee. Help

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

You must stretch from the backs of the legs! Please do stretches against the wall or on the stairs for the hamstrings and calfs and then try stretching your legs while you are upside down pulling your body towards your legs and stretch your knees using the backs of the legs!

@Parnder

5 жыл бұрын

@@VeganOnPointe thanks for replying! I'll try it

I have this naturally...

@VeganOnPointe

4 жыл бұрын

Great! Make sure you engage properly all the muscles required, rather than sit passively in your joint. Pertinent to ballet but also for safety and health of nondancers.

I didn't understand it very much

It is still the quadriceps which straighten the knee, whether it be into neutral position, or into hyperextension. In the vast majority of people, tight hamstrings and calves are NOT what limits hyperextension of the knee. Hyperextension is, in fact, limited by the cruciate ligaments, which do not involve any muscle whatsoever and are buried deep in the centre of the knee joint, no where near the knee cap. These ligaments are the actual target of the stretching exercises shown. The important thing to realize is that ligaments take many more months or years to stretch than muscles do, and they can also be more easily and permanently damaged during the efforts. The calves and hamstrings perform the important function of LIMITING hyperextension beyond what would over-stress and damage the cruciate ligaments, but if you can do a "down-dog" and touch your toes, then the hamstrings and calves are already flexible enough to permit hyperextension, but the cruciate ligaments have to ALSO permit hyperextension in order to achieve it.

@dpara22

5 жыл бұрын

esstown tight hamstrings and calves limit the elongation and stretch of the knee ; which in turn impacts the external rotators and placement in general! Most of the dancers do not feel; hence can’t activate the external rotators due to the pelvis placement; overdeveloped and tight muscles whether gluteals ; hamstrings quadriceps etc. The stretch of ligaments occur when the knee is pushed back unsupported by the pull of quadriceps. She reinforced this several times and demonstrated quite well within the context of turnout.

@esstown

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I realize that this is what is generally taught. However, firstly, knees flex and extend. In layman's terms this is bend, and straighten. Knees do not "elongate" or "stretch." The terms "elongate" and "stretch" are used as visual imagery for kids to straighten their knee while maintaining a protective isometric contraction of quads, hamstrings, adductors and tensor fascia lata, all at the same time. But the knee is not actually elongating or stretching. Secondly, all need our external rotators to walk, and so if a dancer can walk they are using them, i.e. "activating: them. Thirdly, if a person is asked (in a way they can understand) to externally rotate their thigh (this is what turn-out is) and they then try to do this, every single external rotator, both deep and superficial, is contracted (i.e. used, or "activated"). In any case, if you can do a down-dog this proves hamstrings AND the calves are not tight and the only thing left in the way is the posterior cruciate. As I said before, the exercises are the same but must go at a gentler pace to avoid injury, and I think this is important enough to be stated twice. On top of that, as you did say, over-developped and tight muscles are never a good thing, causes plenty of trouble and is to be avoided.

@dpara22

5 жыл бұрын

esstown i doubt you are a dancer professionally based on your comments. It is evident that North American “ scientific approach” to ballet without context and application of ballet has in fact been more detrimental than we think! My comment is not based on “ what is being said” but based on empirical evidence. Scientific evidence is astonishingly lacking in NA, as no proper studies have been completed in the ballet context . Refer to Russians - pls they have plenty. The deep and superficial external rotators are not activated , nor accessed in ambulatory state ( walking parallel?); as you know I presume, those are located at the hips not in your tights. Accessory supportive muscles in the leg are just that not the main external rotators ! Picking my words apart Re- stretching knees ; by inserting the mechanism of how it is achieved through isometric contractions of muscles- does nothing more than just prove my points above ! Of course the joints would not be able to stretch without using the muscles connected to the joints to do that, which brings us back to what has been suggested in the video as well as my latter comment the importance of stretching those muscles to support a stretched joint connected to turnout. If you think a downward dog suffices in the stretch required by these dancers and suggest being able to do that would translate in the ability to execute it properly through turnout and weight bearing ; then perhaps our discussion is useless. Lastly, turnout in ballet is not just turning one’s feet 35 degrees to one side or to what is comfortable -as the supportive science have been suggesting in NA. You don’t even get to access properly the external rotators by undertaking that comfort level motion/ rotation and leaving your pelvis Behind lol. All the injuries occur in fact because of lack of ability to grasp and access proper turnout! Reason why they start using the wrong muscles compensatory! Quite the opposite to what has been implied and suggested by the scientific group . In fact now I understand why some teachers regurgitate soft knees in ballet??No wonder why so many injuries .. a soft joint is unable to undertake the force required in execution of technique in ballet- hence the incidences if injuries. Stretching isometric; dynamic is as vital as the strength required ; one can not be worked on without the other.

@dpara22

5 жыл бұрын

esstown an lastly - you debated initially ? That the stretch of the knee is done by quadriceps; I argued that the use of quadriceps is not enough if the hamstrings and calves are tight. The quadriceps only lift the patella; one can lift the patella with a tight posterior muscles ; the knee is stretched in isolation not in a continuous line with all the other supportive muscles engaged. The joint will be have non functional lifted patella but joint will not be straight! We should not go into how synergetic and antagonistic muscles interchange and their functionality. A soft knee can still have the quads lift the patella ; but it is not functional for ballet

@esstown

5 жыл бұрын

Dariana parachiv - I do not agree with you. Love.

I just want to put this out there and I mean no disrespect to the maker of this video, but when you have hyperextended knees you are at a much greater risk of an injury such an ACL, PCL, MCL, or LCL tear, or more chronic conditions such as tendinitis or arthritis. When someone is hyper mobile in a joint it means that the ligaments (the cartilage that attaches bones together) are more flexible. Unlike muscle, ligaments are not supposed to stretch, and it can tear a lot easier.

@dpara22

5 жыл бұрын

Mary Keleher she is. Not hypermobile in the joints ; but quite the opposite! The hypermobile people need to learn to engage and maintain muscles in elongation. All the injuries occur from not having the muscles engaged but working sloppy !🌺

@dpara22

4 жыл бұрын

Mary Keleher 4 mo later, company member has rupture of meniscus and grade 1-2 strain of ACL and LCL due to knee torsion secondary to unstable ; not muscle stretched knees - basically these soft knees promoted by incompetence allowed in ballet ! I yet have to see ruptured of above by stretched Knees connected functionally to external rotators !

I like your video very much. It’s very helpful! But why this music?? Why people think that adding music like this helps is beyond me. Good that there’s a mute button 🤣

Sometimes I get it sometimes I don’t :(

@VeganOnPointe

5 жыл бұрын

It is a process. Let me know what is it that you don't get "sometimes", watching the video - details again might allow for more understanding. Let me know, how to further assist you. You can send pictures via instagram, and will try to give you feedback that way.

Why would you want this

I know this is a trend but I wouldn't encourage this for yourself or others. In the worst case it can be crippling.

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

If you watched the video you would understand that Hyperextension is not a trend. It is an aesthetic and functionality that is desired and achieved in ballet merely due to properly stretched legs. The video is purely explaining how to properly stretch the legs through placement. When you use placement you achieve all the desired aesthetics of ballet naturally.. if you think hyperextension is crippling, well then pointing your feet and wearing pointe shoes is also crippling. I am not sure you truly understand the purpose of this video. It is to explain that you can achieve all the desired aesthetics of ballet through proper training and placement. The aesthetics are merely a result of proper ballet training.

@SydneeCoggins

6 жыл бұрын

Vegan On Pointe awwwwwwwww snap 😍 loved the video btw

@VeganOnPointe

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I truly appreciate it

@susanbrown7937

6 жыл бұрын

Kerry Takashi Yes, it can be crippling and it really doesn't look good.

@dpara22

6 жыл бұрын

Susan Brown are you a ballet dancer; pedagogue or a health care professional with Ballet pedagogy? As it appears clearly - neither one of you two actually understand Ballet and how to achieve its functions correctly! If you don’t mind what is “ from your perspective” not expertise so crippling about it?

Why isn't the Vegan answering to these comments everyone is making?

@alinaj1707

6 жыл бұрын

Susan Brown there's this thing called being busy... and she has now replied to everyone.

@lialistens1027

3 жыл бұрын

You are so rude

@susanbrown7937

3 жыл бұрын

It seemed like it took her a long time. Itss not being rude. She needs to keep up her channel more. I have heard that wanting hyper legs is over stretching and can lead to injuries in the future.