How This Woman Forced Into Marriage by a Kidnapper Escaped
Surveillance footage shows a woman who was allegedly kidnapped and forced to marry her abductor in a Las Vegas wedding chapel, according to police. In the video, Joseph Hetzel, 52, kissed Virginia Paris, 55, on the cheek. He also put his arm around her neck and held her tight, but she says that was an act of intimidation. Paris told Inside Edition she feared Hetzel might kill her. At one point, she tried to leave the chapel during the wedding, but Hetzel forced her back. #InsideEdition
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That man is disgusting.
@dontmindme8392
4 жыл бұрын
That guy is not a Human like who will to such a thing like this
@laya568
4 жыл бұрын
Tell me about! 🤯
@williamafton3137
4 жыл бұрын
@@theconsul6615 Lol, so if a man rejects me I can shoot him and end his life?
@beomluvrr
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@abbymarie1311
4 жыл бұрын
The Consul he kidnapped someone because she rejected him.. your an idiot for thinking that
Oh my God, that poor woman! She shouldn’t even have to get that marriage “annulled” it should be automatically voided!
@illumination101
2 жыл бұрын
Wldve been funny if she was awarded half of whatever if anything he owns.
@babyhabel474
2 жыл бұрын
Right what the heck
@gracebose2538
2 жыл бұрын
That's right!
@Nickwinch
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. There should something in the books that states that any "marriage" that was done against the will of one or both parties is legally null and void, this can't be the first time something like this has happened.
@Igniting-Moments
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
UPDATE: in 2017 this freak was sentenced to 11 years in prison for what he did to that lady!!
@selendriamuganogo7077
4 жыл бұрын
Miss Amazon that’s all???? Wow
@pudgelovesfudge5403
3 жыл бұрын
11??? WTF NO‼️
@indigenous31617
2 жыл бұрын
Good
@gracebose2538
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. I hope his sorry ass gets violated in the prison by the other inmates.
@Nostalgic_1
2 жыл бұрын
11 years? And, he will probably be released before that. That poor lady will live in fear of him for the rest of her life. 😪 Hopefully, there won't be a next victim of his, but I bet that there will be. He's nuts.
This is messed up! The body language shows he is not trying to let her leave. I hope lady is now OK
@danor6812
6 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. She did not look as if she wanted to be there. I mean yeah, some people get nervous, but they aren't looking to make a break for it.
@eddypsnation
6 жыл бұрын
diamond strawberry Hmmm, was it that obvious 🤔🤔🤔
@rokutv9422
5 жыл бұрын
She did him dirty, she got him doing time and all his money. (There married) can you say Lizzie from "love after lock up" on the W.E. channel💰😈
@lemonlovexx2293
5 жыл бұрын
Of course she is okay.
@RR-ss7dn
5 жыл бұрын
@@rokutv9422 he had no money and she got the marriage annulled immediately.
This is absolutely bizarre
@funniestglike3506
6 жыл бұрын
Rachel Heavlin ikr
@aweaboogenjimain1036
6 жыл бұрын
Rachel Heavlin this is a good story
@KevinP32270
6 жыл бұрын
why is it bizarre. things like this has been happening for hundreds of years. it's going on today.
@taylorsanders8742
6 жыл бұрын
Rachel Heavlin I
@ThemomSlapper
6 жыл бұрын
Rachel Heavlin is that a jojo reference
So glad she didn’t get raped or anything she is so smart
@CodyDTD
6 жыл бұрын
Elimisha Williams Not smart enough to not get kidnapped....
@remmy8282
6 жыл бұрын
CodyDTD He jumped into her car.
@CodyDTD
6 жыл бұрын
MissJoJo Quwinn Not smart enough to lock it.
@maryoomaaziz3606
6 жыл бұрын
CodyDTD doesnt make her stupid ,who wouldve thought that was gonna happen
@CodyDTD
6 жыл бұрын
meadow light Ever see That's So Raven? I rest my case.
My ex did this to me. The only reason we didn't get married is because he needed a copy of his divorce papers from another county & it was late on a Friday. 3 days he kept me. I escaped after being choked & beaten & managed to fight him off & run for it. It was terrifying. The sad part is, the courthouse paid no mind to my red swollen eyes from crying so hard begging him to let me go. I honestly thought they'd notice my distress. But nope. People need to learn how to spot situations like this. Glad this woman also made it out alive.
@somethingspecial1415
2 жыл бұрын
@DarkMoon Goddess,glad you made it out as well-can only imagine how devastating it was for you.
@perladiaz1385
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you but I'm so glad that you made it our alive 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@ronngyen5441
2 жыл бұрын
People need to learn to spot situations like this???? All you simply had to do is walk away. How dumb can a person be to blame the man for forcing a woman to marry her? Just walk away. There wasn't a gun to your head, was there? Then that would be forced.
@emersonmanning6523
2 жыл бұрын
That sounds super romantic..❤
@jamsaidemelo1367
2 жыл бұрын
@@ronngyen5441 your lack of understanding of duress is weird. Remember you don't need to have a gun to her head for her not to walk away. The real threat of violence can be enough and fear be can incapacitating. You were trying to defend someone that didn't deserve it. You can see how uncomfortable she is and how over attentive and controlling he was being.
The mom and daughter look like twins omg
@octo.lina69
5 жыл бұрын
Amy Thanh Not really lol
@sergiorobles7169
5 жыл бұрын
yeah when she gets older she will be her mom
@dreamlover4128
4 жыл бұрын
They're both pretty, but daughter is like in her 20's...mom must be in her 60's. So, no! They don't look like twins!
@shadouzito
4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamlover4128 i think when the lady was younger she looked like her teen daughter
@ricardo9733
4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamlover4128 60? Wtf that's not what 60 looks like shes like in her 40s
Weird af
@yvonnemiddleton9985
6 жыл бұрын
MaMarylin Love you think
@909Pocahontas
6 жыл бұрын
This happens a lot /:
@mamarylinlove3094
6 жыл бұрын
elisa gonzales a lot...where!? lol
@llkatrinall4851
6 жыл бұрын
I know right. It’s like children in love but even worst. I would just beat the hell out of that man
@a.f5388
5 жыл бұрын
@@mamarylinlove3094 everywhere in the world ever heard of human trafficking??
Annulled? She was kidnapped. You would think under the circumstances it wouldn't be valid. The judge could have over ruled the marriage.
@personincognito3989
6 жыл бұрын
Spiritisalive1 that's what an annulment is
@marisellopez6022
5 жыл бұрын
@@personincognito3989 🤣
@theundomesticatedmom6440
4 жыл бұрын
Annulled means it was found invalid
@michelizeclem1647
4 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying... why is it even a processes to get the marriage annulled? That should be automatically done... smh
@odditycat6233
2 жыл бұрын
@@michelizeclem1647 paperwork still needs to be done since there is record of the marriage. They can’t just crumple the paper up and throw it away. That’s just not how it works. The annulment process really isn’t that complicated anyway.
The scariest part about this is she tried to distance herself from him the minute she knew something was off about him. But he managed to abduct her anyway...
When we start feeling ungrateful we watch inside edition
@nousernamewhatsoever
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@supachaloopa3611
2 жыл бұрын
Then we feel superior and binge watch KAREN videos. Life of an American.
Well I have officially seen and heard it all.
@saige_97
6 жыл бұрын
Not just yet my child, not just yet
@camorasgamingandediting9331
6 жыл бұрын
livewithapurpose YOU SAW IT!!!????,???
@thiswerido85
6 жыл бұрын
Texting Story yeah we all seen it cause we watched the video
@margaretlee-reed814
2 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
What's the point of a kidnapping? Like really?
@kayleegrace8055
6 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@saige_97
6 жыл бұрын
They have nothing to live for, they just don't care anymore
@anamariescrenock7145
6 жыл бұрын
Trust me, you don't want to know......
@mwahzhana
6 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@dulcesartillo4333
6 жыл бұрын
Bella Seavey for me the definition is a kid taking a nap
This is weird i live in vegas..
@amandamousseau9053
6 жыл бұрын
Melanie Javinal wow,one of Americas most famous city's is getting talked about! Wow its almost like its never talked about!
@oh427
6 жыл бұрын
Melanie Javinal same
@ac3_card795
6 жыл бұрын
Melanie Javinal same here
@Jetdot37
6 жыл бұрын
Believe me, it’s just as weird for me and I live in New Zealand.
@vodkuro
6 жыл бұрын
lol same. Poor woman.
This guys a monster. Glad she's physically ok. Looks like she has alot of real love waiting at home for her. God bless. 🌹
@feliciajohns4148
Жыл бұрын
AMEN
Your in public lady scream
@nekomaluna7370
6 жыл бұрын
Mount Fuji he could of killed her
@oofishsticksoo7093
6 жыл бұрын
Katie Michelle Harrison she was on public...she could scream for help and people could tackle and topple into him while others call the cops.it would be more easier if the guy wasn't armed tho.
@hiitsedits2455
6 жыл бұрын
o̿ ̭ o̿ Fish Sticks o̿ ̭ o̿ Im pretty sure they would just watch
@inactivechannel1220
6 жыл бұрын
He could snap her neck
@personincognito3989
6 жыл бұрын
o̿ ̭ o̿ Fish Sticks o̿ ̭ o̿ yes you think so in a perfect world, however people just ignore people she did the best thing. Have you been held against your will and got out of it? Because if you don't you can't say that, I have, she did the right thing
This happened to a friend of mine, boyfriend dragged her to go get married. She was crying so much and so scared. It was her boyfriend's friends that intervened and stopped him from forcing my friend to marry him.
@aishadalvi6293
2 жыл бұрын
That was so nice of his friends. I feel very sorry about the girl, I hope she's okay now, both mentally and physically
That’s so sad! She sounds like a super nice and considerate lady!
i'm disturbed how he forced her to kiss him...
Yandere? If I can't have her, NO ONE CAN lol didn't expect anyone to like or reply
@spacefroggy1238
6 жыл бұрын
The_Angel_Demon Yes lol
@kadeyjames5750
6 жыл бұрын
The_Angel_Demon lol
@biancaking2502
6 жыл бұрын
The_Angel_Demon Yup the boy kind
@P_Destiny
6 жыл бұрын
oh geez. absolutely
@yvonnemiddleton9985
6 жыл бұрын
The_Angel_Demon yep sounds about right
I gues the pills dint work lol 😂
@kristin12945
6 жыл бұрын
killer kalifas HATE when that happens
@owouwu7383
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry but *guess *didn’t
@nialegaux8369
6 жыл бұрын
Jokedddd bit still cruel🙏🙏😂
@fyeedits4051
6 жыл бұрын
killer kalifas and I guess your grammar teacher didn't work either
@threenrk
6 жыл бұрын
Mymy Lovely, don't you mean "English" teacher? There's no such thing as a grammar teacher...
How he was grabbing her and holding her was so scary. I'm surprised the people working there didn't call the cops on him.
She stayed so so calm and kept her wits and survived. Clever woman, I am so glad she is living and safe now.
I live in Vegas and I never heard of the Railroad Casino. He must of taken her far, and what a weirdo he was.
@jonmacdonald5345
6 жыл бұрын
Amber Pierce Palace Station go Check it out it's west of the 15frwy away from the Strip!!! They Got some Good Good Guinness to Drink!!
@cloroxbleach8634
6 жыл бұрын
Whazzaa Mua homie
@danor6812
6 жыл бұрын
It's out past Henderson, right before you go into Boulder NV.
@emilytelles323
6 жыл бұрын
dano r weird i live in henderson NV
@sirviks7467
6 жыл бұрын
Take the freeway to boulder city you'll see it
Why did that guy behind the counter not say anything when she was clearly trying to leave. They could of help her at that stage.
@prankgirl9112
6 жыл бұрын
Phillip Stewart Don't blame the victim.
@-BuddyGuy
6 жыл бұрын
Vegas baby
@misheleclipper5545
6 жыл бұрын
pecan baby 3107 It looked like she was changing her mind, a little unsure but, he persuaded her to continue. No way to be sure that it's forced unless she felt safe enough to say something and they would have moved to slow to help.
@sonyafly
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of men still subscribe to the “mind your own business” philosophy which is so so harmful.
@buiuh1260
2 жыл бұрын
@@sonyafly it keeps u alive most of the times
She STILL had to get it annulled 😩😩😭 that’s crazy
I'm so glad she was able to make it out. Not many people make it out and live to tell others of their experience. God bless her, I wish her the best.
Men these days. Smh
@goose_loose
6 жыл бұрын
KevinCummings Fitness not all men
@jlivb
6 жыл бұрын
Phillip Stewart this is about the men. you have to bring up women out of nowhere? He didn't even mention women.
@goose_loose
6 жыл бұрын
Julia Belk he said "men these days" so we turned the tables on women
@eeeyeah7015
6 жыл бұрын
davidisdank 1 it's the other way around actually
@goose_loose
6 жыл бұрын
Jay Jay actually it's not
This is like crazy action triller movie!
@Syahnydeofficial
4 жыл бұрын
"triller"???
@user-jh2yk1uv4h
4 жыл бұрын
Tiger Girl wtf what is TRILLER? LOLL
@Noslekcin911
2 жыл бұрын
No ots not
She shouldn't have to get the marriage annulled...what kind of mess is that. She was abducted and forced into that situation. How is that legally binding?!?!
That guy is kinda nasty 😣
@ratscratyle8031
6 жыл бұрын
Kinda?😕 He's absolutely disgusting
@mygodxy
6 жыл бұрын
Markimoo Girl21 Kinda? He's 100% disguisting!
@stonerpenguin8815
6 жыл бұрын
Nani?
@bucksquish813
6 жыл бұрын
Blanca_plier rawr Kinda you mean 100%
@kristinacruz9769
5 жыл бұрын
Kinda? KINDA?? DUDE HE KIDNAPPED HER
This is crazy. She's from my hometown.
Wow, heart breaking. I can’t imagine. The daughter looked terrified.
The body language says it all. I’m So sorry to this lady. 💔
"I've taken pills by the time they catch me i'll be dead" Cops: We're about to ruin this man's life
Looks like the pills didn’t work.
OML That Chappell is like 25 minutes from my house😥
@elizabethhansen9203
6 жыл бұрын
dominic Ornelas wow
@HannahBuzz135
6 жыл бұрын
dominic Ornelas o
@kaykworld1538
6 жыл бұрын
What does oml mean?
@inactivechannel1220
6 жыл бұрын
Suuureeeeee
@mwahzhana
6 жыл бұрын
Kayk World oml= O My Lord
Aww her daughter must've been so scared and worried after that phone call. So glad she escaped this terrible man and his insane marriage plan. Some people just can't understand that NO means NO.
Ladies, always lock your doors to your car the moment you get in!
I do hope this woman is still able to trust people & form new friendships/relationships after this frightening experience. What a seriously deluded jerk that guy is. .🤷♀️
Wldve been funny if she was awarded half of whatever if anything he owns.
@shamikeatley4760
2 жыл бұрын
~she prbbly doesn't wnt anythng tht freak evr owned..!!~not evn to sell it...!!
What a freak! That man needs to be in prison until he's too old to be a threat to anyone.
@fredricotraversiere8868
Жыл бұрын
why?
@la381
Жыл бұрын
What good is he to society?
Acquaintance? He couldn't just become friends and wooh his way into her life? He had to be a freaking weirdo?! WTH. They should just drop the marriage completely. This woman, no one deserves this kind of treatment. And now she not only has to live with the mental trauma of it all but has to fight the court system to get it annulled?! Poor woman. My heart goes out to her and her family.
Her daughter looks like a doll, stunning! Glad her mom is back home with her. That is a madman.
This man is sick, but this could make a great movie! Maybe called 'escape'??? Im not inventive sorry LOLLOL
@violetselene244
6 жыл бұрын
Ruby Tucker lol that would make a good name though 😂
@NAofficialmusic
6 жыл бұрын
What about unwanted marriage
@sarahbethbays6532
5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure this movie script is on LMN already somewhere 🤪
@truthsterwakeupworldplease8875
5 жыл бұрын
Yea sick in love.
@wtf9599
5 жыл бұрын
Or they could just name it “Ouch”
I know how it feels when your mom says "tell everyone I love them, I love you alot bye" it hurts :(
I'm glad this woman made it out of a dangerous situation, but that man is just plain pathetic especially since he thought of taking his own life instead of owning up to his crimes. But he still got caught and arrested 🤣🤣🤣
@Ash_Queen16
2 жыл бұрын
Right? What a coward 🙃🙄
@nubiandoll7
Жыл бұрын
I know right I can’t understand some people 🤦🏾♀️
Well marriage is slavery i stay away from that. I was almost in that situation.. Not the kidnapling part hopefully not but the guy was an immigrant trying to get his paper fixed
@hanamay1669
6 жыл бұрын
Gigi Mosa how does that make it better?
@Snow-xd4rv
6 жыл бұрын
Gigi Mosa+ But if they really love each other it ain't slavery. Also the they I'm talking about is not them.
@brooklynnbravesong2334
6 жыл бұрын
Phillip Stewart Marriage is slavery for women!
@pastelpepe
6 жыл бұрын
Brooklynn Brave Song How so ?
@hoshikyu
6 жыл бұрын
Brooklynn Brave Song both partners have their own privileges in a marriage, having usually the male doing the work and finding money and the wife looking after their home and cleaning up, mind you I'm not trying to say it can't be the other way around. Both opposite ends holds a good amount of the bargain, but if you're talkin abuse or forced marriage then yes, I'd consider that slavery.
The employees were watching them closely why didn't they intervene? Very scary
I know this is 4 years old but MY GOODNESS! I am so sorry she went through this. You can see in her eyes while she was speaking that she will never be the same. And her daughter is her twin, but she is so soft spoken it just hurts me that she received a call from her mom like that smh throw his ass under the jail please!
That’s horrifying. It’s actually hard to watch that.
Y tho
@jasminerubin6026
5 жыл бұрын
He liked her
@jilenaj06
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like im wondering do they know each other and this is just one-sided affection or sumthing, or weird to say she was forced by a total stranger like she was sunddenly grabbed and dragged to the chapel y know lol
How horrifying. You would think that the state of Nevada would automatically annulled the marriage so that she wouldn't have to deal with the expense and emotional aspects of it. It's not like they couldn't tell by video from the chapel that she was forced to be there. Also, I would think that the chapel employees could have known that something wasn't right. 🤷♀️
I can relate. I been in this situation throughout my teen years.
It's in Santa Barbara , so where's Shawn and gus?(only psych fans will understand)
@gabriellong2322
6 жыл бұрын
The Unicorn Squad I love psych
@gatocat4030
6 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Long same
@lilduck9725
6 жыл бұрын
The Unicorn Squad Eating pineapples
@gatocat4030
6 жыл бұрын
The Unicorn Squad I remember the episode with "The Cricket" He had me fooled into believing that he was the good guy. In the ending of the episode, The Cricket was the bad guy.
@cweamcat
6 жыл бұрын
The Unicorn Squad i live in santa barbara oof
Male Yandere
Only in America!!
@alisham4681
6 жыл бұрын
Diego Kapfenberg nope
@vangu2918
6 жыл бұрын
Diego Kapfenberg Happens around the world every day.
@courtneyw6224
6 жыл бұрын
Diego Kapfenberg Only you think that, and it's sad. Foreign countries suffer through this all the time
@angelblue5947
6 жыл бұрын
That's not really true
@tlc1614
6 жыл бұрын
Diego Kapfenberg ..ummmmm have you heard of a child bride. Never in America.sorry.
What inside edition teaches me: don’t be friends with men.
I am glad she asked for help! It's good she stayed calm.
Hotel? Trivago
@krystalsperfectteeth8194
4 жыл бұрын
Silenced Logik 🤣💀💀💀
I’m so glad she’s ok ! 🙏🏻
He got 11 years. He should never get out!
A kidnapper trying to marry his victim? Super mario oddesy came early
Omg poor lady … I’m so glad she’s ok
Poor lady 😞
That’s terrifying!!!
That’s so messed up!
How desperate can a person be for marriage though? Like...why would anybody do this? Anyway I am glad she made it out alive and her daughter resembles her so much
(sigh) And here comes the victim-blaming ignorant comments, “Why didn’t she run away, why didn’t she try to escape, why didn’t she scream for help, why didn’t she fight him,” blah blah blah blah. Do some research on the psychological fear tactics kidnap victims like Elizabeth Smart and Natasha Kampusch were subjected to, and learn a thing or two about how a kidnap victim is threatened behind closed doors and the dangers of trying to escape, or even speaking up, being at the mercy of psychopath, and maybe you’ll understand better.
@kikyolovekissingyousister1354
5 жыл бұрын
SunBunz ik what you mean cause happen to me from when i was 5 till i was 9, untill my mom got me and saw what was on me and i told her everything. But come to say the only charged one person to jail when it was really 3 people who raped me, my dad and his brothers did. And i hate them for it still till this day. And i still live with the fact that i think someone or anyone would try to kidnap me or my little girl, cause of what happen to me in the past. So yes its true people do get worried that they would be killed or beated. And believe me ik that for a fact. And plus, if your here in texas no the court houses do not help at all.
@SunBunz
5 жыл бұрын
kikyolove kissing you sister 1996 omg that’s awful! I’m so very sorry that happened to you.
@mrsauce9307
5 жыл бұрын
SunBunz she’s probably lying idgaf😒
@SunBunz
5 жыл бұрын
@@mrsauce9307 Noted. Thanks for that valuable feedback.
@someoneatemysandwich4989
5 жыл бұрын
kikyolove kissing you sister 1996 I'd welcome death as a friend.
remember to always lock your doors first thing when you get in the car😅
I’m glad she is ok !❤️
That poor woman 😞😔 I hope she’s doing ok. Crazy
@Noslekcin911
2 жыл бұрын
Aww
@nubiandoll7
2 жыл бұрын
@@Noslekcin911 ?
@Noslekcin911
2 жыл бұрын
@@nubiandoll7 it's so hard to be human
@nubiandoll7
2 жыл бұрын
@@Noslekcin911 Wdym?
So many sick and creepy individuals on this planet. I hope he never comes out of jail again.
I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of discomfort she endured whilst kissing him. Ugh.
WOW. I hope she is safe and well.
Why does Santa Barbara county keep coming up. I live on that county. Its came up twice but still its sorta a big deal around here
That’s happens when your too friendly you have to know how far you can say your Hi and good bye because being to friendly is like people gets the wrong idea… they get obsess with the person… remember hi and good bye works 😬
such an intelligent woman . she knew what to do at the right time 😊. I’m so happy she’s okay and that man needs to be checked
@nathaliejiron4609
5 жыл бұрын
LOL!! True. I would have gotten myself killed. Screaming all over the place everywhere 😂
@ninanickel3103
4 жыл бұрын
nores alshaif it’s a good thing people listened. Had they not this would’ve played out differently.
You know your bad at love when you have to kidnap someone and force them to marry them.
@catherinethorstenberg8957
2 жыл бұрын
It happens a lot in some countries
She and her daughter looks beautiful! And I hope they're doing well.
2.30 Those pills did f#ck him up😂😂 Totally not expecting him to look like a zombie😂
What a nightmare. I can’t imagine what this woman went through.
That is so seriously scary
Love all these people who helped her and didnt think it was a joke. So glad she got away.
This is my worst nightmare, having someone become so obsessed with me that my life is in danger
Wow. Glad youre safe.
THAT IS SO CRUEL!
This is scary wtf is wrong with people
If I was in that situation, I would have screamed and fight him off and run for my life, but I like the way she took a calm approach
That's scary af 😳
This is crazy
Omg, that guy looked like Joe Gatto from Impractical Jokers
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He looks like a so-called ‘nice guy’, it just goes to show you can never judge people by their looks, just how Ted Bundy was considered charming and attractive.
Who would do such a thing? This is absolutely terrifying
Omg, this almost happened to me and same place. That's the wedding chapel at Fremont Experience near Denny's.
When the mom looks at her daughter, it must be like looking at a mirror that shows your younger self.
U have to defend ur self like hit him in the middle part!
So glad he was arrogant enough to believe she would follow through and she took advantage of this opportunity. Blessings to you.💪👏👏👏👏👏👏💪
What's worse is that now she has to endure to headfuk of getting an annulment and waiting on that....it's pretty messed up