Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGirrrqHqcfglbw.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.

@teamextras4life270

6 ай бұрын

🤔 Ukraine A Waste Of America TAXPAYER'S MONEY 💰

@hunterphung3638

6 ай бұрын

can't get any intellect from Putin propagandists. John only knows how to repeat Putin lies and propaganda.

@bigrootbigroot8237

6 ай бұрын

He also talks out of both sides of his ass,

@nenojovanovic9360

6 ай бұрын

Lex, why are you pushing CIA propaganda?

@marions7423

6 ай бұрын

blaming the victim. what will prevent putin to annex those oblast after lifting sanctions. it is total bs. putin invaded crimea when ukraine was neutral. and neutral ukraine is bs from mearsheimer. putin through russian mafia will dominate so called neutral ukraine as with no rule of law it would be maduro like regime. as in belorus with no single belorus language school.

Correction.... the war started in 2014.... not 2022

@aleksseb2560

6 ай бұрын

And Ukraine started the war by killing Russians in Ukraine for keeping Russian culture. Ukrainian started an ethnic cleanse back in 2014.

@altergreenhorn

6 ай бұрын

Correction the war started in 1945 when the UK/US saved from the war crime court 20.000 SS Ukraine guys to be later used against Soviet union, as insurgence groups to harm communist soviet union they killed aproxematly 20.000 soviets betwen 1946-1953, then the Soviets seal the borders, yes that was the reason for that as well. More about saving the Ukraine SS guys on Mark Felton channel, title: Ukraine nazis in Britain. CIA suported those Ukrainian since then in Britain, Canada and in the US to be used again in 2004 to install US favorite goverment, they failed, but in 2014 they succeed.

@lockbert99

6 ай бұрын

The civil war started in 2014. There were no headlines "Russia invaded Ukraine" in 2014.

@dontbetreadin4777

6 ай бұрын

Yes there was, It was all over the place how Russia had Unmarked units operating in ukraine... @@lockbert99

@seferinorino6951

6 ай бұрын

@@lockbert99civil war run by Ruzzia.

"World leaders should just hold hands and sing songs together" -Lex

@Luke-zz2zz

6 ай бұрын

Of course he pushes peace and the status quo. His "faction" runs everything.

@cruxer666

6 ай бұрын

Nobody is learning history anymore. Russia is a babarian state. Poland was defending against their aggression for 1000 years. 19 wars(every generation on average, let that sink in). They will not change, 20th century, we fought them in 2 wars. In 1920 we defeated red army, stopped the horde, then in 1939 ruzzists and nazis ganged up on us and we ended up occupied by soviet sc*m 1945-1993. This state is pure insanity, they fuel their paranoia and madness with alcohol and keep attacking EVERYONE THAT THEY PERCIVE WEAKER THAN THEM. There is no solving this without this state falling apart for good.

@principleshipcoleoid8095

6 ай бұрын

Hahaha. Naivite. Putin does this out of mystical view of history. He thinks invading countries and grabbing land is his destiny

@martinseptimryden7272

6 ай бұрын

​@@Luke-zz2zzeasy to call for peace when your team have been winning for the last 80 years or so. Lex is a child who has nothing to do with eastern Europe and has an incredibly low knowledge about the region, it's people and their customs so don't think of him as any type of intellectual but rather as a typical American jew who has grown up sheltered from any harsh realities to become the normies "feelgoodguy" 👍

@AndrewJeffersonCotter

6 ай бұрын

"faction"??????? woah woah woah woah woah woah hold on buddy watch your mouth @@Luke-zz2zz

This feels like an adult explaining things to a toddler

@tjcint

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking something similar.

@fgb3126

3 ай бұрын

There is something about Fridman that is rather unbelievably naive and idealistic in a World of Real-Politik! It is time, Lex, to wake up and smell the coffee.

@yokoyosi3084

2 ай бұрын

Exacly

@spritemultipack

2 ай бұрын

@@fgb3126 It's something which is usually kind of endearing about him but becomes absolutely insufferable when conversation is in this space

@Thomas...191

2 ай бұрын

Well I bet he is way more knowledgeable than you on every counterpoint to each mershimer argument.

I swear... how naive can Lex be? He's so cute. I can't wait for him to grow up and pick up a history book.

@kingkiplar

Ай бұрын

I'd be happy with an engaging interviewer. Give him a coffee at least for christ's sake.

@cazman182

5 күн бұрын

Can you fucking imagine the US, Ukraine, or Russia acting in good faith? International geopolitics is pure self interest. Every actor is hoping to get the best for themselves. Ukraine would never EVER be truly neutral. All that means is that Russia gets to once again start infiltrating the state's institutions when the US is busy somewhere else like with China for example.

@chickenlover657

4 күн бұрын

Cute like a puppy.

when lex said "they cant reach an agreement even with the US at the table?" I spit out my coffee

@PepeCoinMania

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@davidsmith5094

6 ай бұрын

You're right !! There will never be peace as long as the U.S. is sitting at the same table!!

@yous2244

6 ай бұрын

US is the problem 😂😂😂. Problem is Americans never read history except what media tells them

@davidkottman3440

6 ай бұрын

Who's history are you reading? That also is a huge difference.

@quarter_moon_and_a_guitar

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, we're virtual whizzes at foreign policy. In fact, I can't think of any misguided U.S. foreign conflicts since WWII. On second thought, every one of them. @@davidsmith5094

I find it hard to believe that Lex could possibly be this naive

@milanvanik8701

6 ай бұрын

Iits not his naivety, It's cognitive dissonance

@alexmchugh6293

6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately he is. Politics wise lex is not smart at all.

@charlesspencer6339

6 ай бұрын

If only he was naive. Very early on he calculated that he is up against his revenue stream if he discusses this conflict objectivly. Now when the invevitable has unfolded he has no leg to stand on so he preaches love. So dissapointing, thats why there is only one Joe Rogan

@milanvanik8701

6 ай бұрын

@@charlesspencer6339 Joe Rogan is not the smartest as well! He got many things wrong. Maybe he is too careful (?) anyway regards to politics and news, there are much better podcasts

@charlesspencer6339

6 ай бұрын

@@milanvanik8701 not calling him smart but he is authentic...it doesnt appear, at least to me, that he tailors his messaging according to trends

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.” ------- Albert Einstein

@adamblack267

4 ай бұрын

Exactly right. But the power of money is very alluring.

@philipambler3825

Ай бұрын

Superb!!!

Lex-“do you think it’s a good idea for world leaders to talk about stuff?” The popularity of this guy’s podcast is a testament to the median IQ of western civ these days.

@muresandani

5 ай бұрын

Don't confuse your cynicism for intelligence, Lex is far more intelligent than you are. He's just naive on this particular subject.

@AveTrueToCaesar8212

5 ай бұрын

@@muresandani Lex is a shill

@jaimeperez8247

5 ай бұрын

It’s always some “easterner “ talking shit about the west. The whole “ east vs west “ shit is hilarious because ppl from the west never even use that term it’s only yall 😂😂😂.

@-the_emperor-1660

5 ай бұрын

@@jaimeperez8247 It is not the easts problem youve bred so much gore on this world that not pointing it out would be like choosing to go blind.

@jaimeperez8247

5 ай бұрын

@@-the_emperor-1660 only western nations are to blame for all the atrocities committed by man? That’s hilarious. Guess you don’t know your history

'have russia and ukraine tried telling eachother they love eachother?' -Lex probably

@thehonestguitarist6543

3 ай бұрын

Yes but that was the 17th century. 😢

@HeyHEY-fg9rp

3 ай бұрын

It's his gig but it's also his way to remain more or less neutral. His slot makes it neccessary to remain ignorant of a lot of reality.

Lex: "Ok, but what about if I bake them a cake?" Nice chat, by the way...

@AlexanderKirilkin

13 күн бұрын

Naïve chat of cabinet professor…

It must be quite painful for Putin having to negotiate with so many different leaders that are all part of the same machine

@George-pv1lr

2 ай бұрын

Didn't care when he started the war

@anneli1735

2 ай бұрын

@@George-pv1lr🤔 Looks like you didn’t understand anything about the whole issue 🤷‍♀️

@solaireastora5394

Ай бұрын

​@@anneli1735nah he understands enough, fuck ruzzia

You can trust Putin exactly as far you can throw a KGB agent.

@kristijangrgic9841

4 күн бұрын

Same appplies to Americans, US blew up German gas pipe and now US is selling us American gas at 4x the price , first pushing us into war with Russia than taking.advantage of us, with allies like US you dont need enemies

The smile on Mearsheimer's face at @13:34 as Lex is talking about person to person talks overriding distrust of the West is great. To me, it expresses.. "Lex, bless your heart, you sweet summer child".

@tatianalyulkin410

6 ай бұрын

Well, Lex is blissfully unaware of the fact that under Zelensky Putin's " brother figure " Viktor Medvedchyk was arrested on totally idiotic charges and brutally tortured. Is it even fair to ask Putin to sit down with the psycho killer? Even under Poroshenko there were no death squads, kill lists and people disappearing. Volodya and I don't want to " sit down " with Zelensky- we want him to go for a swim with the fishes in the Hudson River! End of story.

@3dee106

6 ай бұрын

Haha well said

@harleyquinn8202

6 ай бұрын

lol

@islandwills2778

6 ай бұрын

yup sounds about right, while lex is partially correct that sometimes great leaders can transcend the normal bounds and make deals that might normally never be possible there is only one great leader involved in this conflict and its putin. Zelenski is a puppet to the usa, and negotiating with Biden? Well biden is as far from great as a leader can possibly be.

@dandysd

6 ай бұрын

I am grateful to Lex for his seemingly repetitive naive questions and for the Mearsheimer's bulletproof answer. Anyone exposed to this cannot make the mistake of thinking upside down.

watching Lex interact with Mearseheimer is literally like watching a Steve Brule interview. He even wears the same facial expressions

I have worked it out folks, Lex is not naive or child like. This is his angle or his interviewing style. Lex is like the straight man in a comedy duo. Lex asks a question or makes a statement to get the most honest answer from his interviewee.

Lex will singlehandedly solve the world peace at the next Miss Universe pageant 🙄

@cliffgaither

6 ай бұрын

@KeekeOrb :: 😊 What is wrong with Lex ? He's interviewed too many people to be this naive.

@KeekeOrb

6 ай бұрын

@@cliffgaither Lex jumped the shark 🦈

@defunctuserchannel

6 ай бұрын

😂

@defunctuserchannel

6 ай бұрын

​@@cliffgaitherlex is another elite class fool

@wandaperi

6 ай бұрын

@AtlanticCity

He should ask BlackRock about how it ends.

@zarategabe

6 ай бұрын

.....with huge profits for General Dynamics, Boeing, Raytheon, and company....

@wishingwell1000

6 ай бұрын

@@zarategabe Did Putin send hundreds of thousands of soldiers into Ukraine? Is Russia committing mass murder? Are the people in Russia who tried to stop this invasion imprisoned in camps in Russia? Did the Russians fire 10,000+ missiles into Ukraine this past year? Why don't you talk about that instead. Why is Iran selling drones to Russia? Why is Russia taking over diamond mines in Africa? Why do Russian forces imprison, extort, assault, and torture people? Why is Putin still in charge? Why has he been in power all this time, and even now.

@anderseckstrand7033

6 ай бұрын

BINGO!!! The true owners of the US government, along with Vanguard, StateStreet, J. P. Morgan Chase, and ALL of the Washington think tanks.... It’s amazing how uneducated most westerners are. I’m from New York and I see the smug ignorance every day! 😂

@nicknamenick9448

6 ай бұрын

They will buy all Ukraine probably

@maverickgood5204

6 ай бұрын

Only if Ukraine gov is still in charge.

Lex has such a good heart. Never change man. Kindness goes a long way. Much love to ya.

America is the biggest obstacle to world peace.

For a scientist, Lex's dismissal of evidence is shocking!

@yuriysemenikhin302

6 ай бұрын

And that's how russian propaganda works. They pay Lex a few pennies and he eats up their BS and then throws it at us.

@robby3467

6 ай бұрын

What evidence? At least Lex pushed back against this guy's crazy claims. Everyone with even a half functioning brain knows this war was cause by pootin. It's been like that since ruZZia stole Crimea.

@rotfogel

6 ай бұрын

What evidence?

@rotfogel

6 ай бұрын

Love Lex nodding, just listening to this idiot, Lex knows things, this fool (John M.?), is WAY out of his element. It's as if he doesn't read any history. Finnish war of 1939 ring a bell to this idiot? I mean, John M is WAY out of his element.

@Sayantra

6 ай бұрын

Why? Do u know how actually work science today?

I truly believe Lex has good intentions with his naive “humanity” questions, but it’s a bit difficult to listen. This is not a marriage dispute, and stakes are extremely high. This is not a place for emotional heart to hearts of two people. Besides, Zelenski can’t make the call on decisions Putin would want him to make for the conversation to be productive.

@overbe

6 ай бұрын

He is very naive and kinda delusional. I think we all know that words of Western leaders hold no value. Also US has no leader. I'd say it's the most corrupt country on Earth

@timmy-wj2hc

6 ай бұрын

Zelensky is a US puppet, everyone in the world knows that.

@PDNvideos

6 ай бұрын

Sadly and unfortunately you are completely right

@sigma4471

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Foreign relations are not romantic relationships.

@nalanala9725

6 ай бұрын

I disagree just in that not even a marriage dispute can not be solved by an emotional heart to heart.

Prof.Mearsheimer hits the nail on the head once again,you have my vote any day.A guy who knows and knows what he is talking about.

Annexation of territory does not mean holding territory.

This guys “I believe in the power of individual leaders” position is cringey childish nonsense.

@overbe

6 ай бұрын

1000% It was big WTF moment

@Sup_Mate

6 ай бұрын

@@overbe it’s very egocentric. This is a numbers game occurring on an epic scale and these leaders and constantly making decisions with a limited scope of the facts, both intentionally and unintentionally betraying each other. This is not a movie, Lex.

@MinhVo-ig7no

6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call it cringe but definitely naive. He still believes if someone like Trump is the US president somehow the US will suddenly have the global power and influence like it once did after Soviet collapse. The Western world has been playing with Putin's trust for years and now none of the Russian leadership are listening anymore. You violate s.o trust for so long and expect them to be the humble person? Thats impossible.

@RealistReviewer

6 ай бұрын

Figureheads have power? 🤣

13:03 As a Russian, sometimes I can't help thinking Lex believes in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus

@jinkazama7491

6 ай бұрын

I would like to think Lex is a smart guy but he’s just dumbing himself down to get the views.

@pierman4858

6 ай бұрын

As a Russian you need to protest the war and not type silly comments here.

@mangokush245

6 ай бұрын

​@@pierman4858 oh shut up, you have no moral right to tell people to go against their government. are you going to protect them afterwards?

@pierman4858

6 ай бұрын

@@mangokush245 if I would protect Russians if they get in trouble with the Russian state for protesting the invasion of Ukraine? Nope, probably not. My wife left Belarus and can never return there because she protested Lukashenko. I guess supporting her is my little part in the fight for justice. I do also support the victims of Russia's aggression in Ukraine.

@kostia_ff_

6 ай бұрын

​​@@pierman4858why he must protest? For many Russians this war is protective war and honest

Central and Eastern European Nations/leaders don't share Mearsheimer's (or Fridman's) wide-eyed optimism about Russia's ability to regard their neighbors as anything but the next conquest, when the time is right.

Those judging Lex as a naïve young man are the real problem in the world today. A world ignorant of how much has dialogue achieved to prevent wars and violence throughout human history. Keep it up Lex. there’s enough historical evidence to back up the approach that you are encouraging and sharing with us.

The war started in 2014 not 2022

Lex can be hard to take seriously

@tankerd1847

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I think Mearsheimer has the most realistic take here. I think what Lex has to remember is that both of these men, Putin and Zelenskyy, are ideologically motivated in the favor of their own nations, they feel wronged by the other and Putin feels wronged by the West. Does Lex really think Zelenskyy after two years of watching his people get butchered by the Russians could sit across from Putin, smile, and say "Let's figure out how to end this thing?" And conversely, Putin who sees a grave security threat to his people from Ukrainian ascension into NATO, who has seen the West throw countless billions of dollars of advanced armaments into Ukraine to kill his soldiers, could sit across from Zelenskyy and actually figure something out? I appreciate Lex's heart and hope, but it's not realistic. In my opinion, the only way this ends is if the West backs off and leaves Ukraine to be beaten by Russia. Otherwise it's going to turn into an unstable frozen conflict, like Mearsheimer alluded to, to where both sides beat the crap out of each other until a ceasefire and then the conflict will simmer until something sparks it off again or Russia thinks they can break Ukraine down a little further. There is no way this is going to end the way the United States and Russia have gotten entangled, because both sides have too much to lose. Not until one side decides to give up, and who has more to lose? Russia who sees Ukraine in NATO as an existential threat, or the United States who are funding a proxy war to gain strategic supremacy over Russia? All the US has to lose at this point is face and strategic advantage. I think Russia has more to lose and more they have lost. I don't see them backing down after what they have already sacrificed.

@TheMasterhomaster

6 ай бұрын

Because Lex is globally naive.

@imanghavami

6 ай бұрын

I agree, he keeps mentioning the human side. It is kind of annoying as well.

@TrueFork

6 ай бұрын

"no NATO expansion" and such have been promised before, and the previous promises and agreements were broken. I think at this time Russia will accept no less than unconditional surrender.

@omarchemly8412

6 ай бұрын

Lex is bought and paid for by the usual suspects

What's with the vampiric NPR tone?

He asks what happend during Istanbul talks? -Bucha happened

@nesirosern8596

4 ай бұрын

Bucha did not happen Boris Johnson happened He himself admitted that he convinced Zelensky not to sign anything And then they made up Bucha for the stupid people like you as an excuse for the war to continue

@evgenyreshetnikov3483

4 ай бұрын

Made up by USA and Britain. His point still stands.

When Lex was talking about being human, all I could imagine was Don Corleone stepping into the room, placing his hand on Lex’s Shoulder and saying “I have a sentimental weakness for my children and I spoil them, as you can see. They talk when they should listen.” 😂😂

@misterh544

5 ай бұрын

😂

@wagwanman

5 ай бұрын

Best comment yet!

@dartskihutch4033

5 ай бұрын

Yet, the childish thought of being human and showing love for one another over the egotistical run away train this war has become, is the real answer. But yes let the adults talk about how each side is right and perpetuate an endless war with only more destruction. No one stops to think the unlikelyhood of peace and love is a real option, so they all align with hate and war instead.

@Salvelinus_confluentus

4 ай бұрын

Ha ha

@cassiemontgomery45

4 ай бұрын

I read that in Vito Corleone's voice!

Lex is such a romantic person lives in his own world. The questions that he asks are so broad and unrealistic.

@Darthg44

6 ай бұрын

I rarely listen to him, but I think the same thing every time I watch a clip of his. I’ve never understood his popularity. The questions are the same a teenager might ask

@SwordsmanRyan

6 ай бұрын

He evinces himself an unread man

@per2

6 ай бұрын

these people die first in war, hes lucky hes living in peaceful country

@integratedalchemist

6 ай бұрын

I feel like there's a place for both realism and optimism, I understand he doesn't know a lot about the situation, but although there's a naivety that comes along with idealism, if we can't imagine a better future then it just won't happen

@SwordsmanRyan

5 ай бұрын

@@integratedalchemist Someone who believes in "free will" would say that. Realpolitik comes with an understanding of game theory and incentive structures, which rules out the foolish "just two guys talking it out" approach.

Hey Lex! Would be great to hear you conversation with Arestovych you've recorded a while ago. Please share it with us.

@UC4o8gkoFHTiq

4 ай бұрын

@arestovych

Even when it was explained to Lex what transpired with the Minsk Agreement, he still uttered those words of trust and human nature. I was waiting for John to say, “didn’t you hear what I just said about the Minsk agreement”?

@Razaknight

5 ай бұрын

Yea and John was completely wrong about the Minsk agreement as it's seems you are

@tomascc9367

4 ай бұрын

Minsk agreements were broken by both Sides. But must of escalation was made by RU side

@Dodo-ym8cc

3 ай бұрын

Kiev refused to talk with the Donbass leaders about implementation of the Minsk agreements.

@Dodo-ym8cc

3 ай бұрын

Merkel said in a newspaper magazine the Minsk agreement were meant to buy Kiev time and prepare for war.

@tomascc9367

3 ай бұрын

@@Dodo-ym8ccin your conspiracy pedo-dreams vatnik. No proofs as always, tik-tok news lol

Lex has been reading to many western daily tale story’s and movies about happy endings.

@stob82

5 ай бұрын

Before he knows it he’ll be living in Israel with his settler friends.

@thehonestguitarist6543

3 ай бұрын

He's a computer programmer not a geopolitical analyst. On the internet we are all experts. 😂

I was listening to this while hiking and I was SCREAMING when a smart guy like lex was talking about the leaders talking person to person about war. It reminded me of when people talk about Manifestation.

@MrFrossty94

6 ай бұрын

God I was doing the same. He just couldn’t let that idea go

@sirlancair

6 ай бұрын

Idealism and optimism decline with age. Intelligence decreases slightly, but wisdom increases exponentially. I see John saying..and this is one of our smartest youth...oh, the Naiveté.

@troiscarottes

6 ай бұрын

Why do you call him a smart guy? He doesn't seem to know the first thing of what he's talking about!

@sirlancair

6 ай бұрын

@@troiscarottes You must also have a PHD in Robotics or Computer science?, so to me..that's fn smart. Now, naive..another story

@sillymesilly

6 ай бұрын

@@sirlancairno a midwit can have phd.

Smashed it on this one lex, well done

Mearsheimer wrote a paper in 1993 stating his belief that Russia would invade Ukraine if Ukraine gave up it's nukes. in 1994 Russia demanded 'Security Guarantees' in the form of Ukraine transferring it's Soviet nukes to Russia. Russia got the nukes and promised to promote an independent and economically prosperous Neutral Ukraine. In 1991 Ukriane had 791,000 in it's military, by 2014 Ukraine had 6,000 combat troops. So in 2014 Ukraine was demilitarised and neutral as Russia had demanded, and it invaded Ukraine anyway. By the way Russia never promoted Ukraine's independence or economic development.

@valeriegillet473

16 күн бұрын

After the 2014 coup d’état organised by the West, Ukraine’s neutrality died and as proof throughout its years Ukraine never had a problem until the day the West decided to change this by force by supporting neo-Nazis

@AlexanderKirilkin

13 күн бұрын

Because the Mearsheimer is on side of Putin

@omikhlephonon

12 күн бұрын

Unless, it actually did, almost every other industrial branch in central and Easterb Ukraine was working with Russian companies, also with Russian MD. Almost all of tge Donbass was deeply connected to Russian industries(since Soviet times) so Yanukovich trying to side with Russia and the US injecting its tentacles in Ukraine's interior affairs made things escalate quickly

@draganmilicevic3344

12 күн бұрын

But in 2014,Ukraine decided to join NATO and broke agreement about neutrality.

@joebloggs430

12 күн бұрын

@@draganmilicevic3344 Total and utter BS. In 1996 Yeltsin refused to commit to ratify the border and recognise Ukraine so Ukraine was forced to turn to NATO for protection. It applied to join but NATO denied Ukraine because West had Russia-First policy.This scared the **** out of Yeltsin and he signed 1997 Treaty recognising Ukraine. If NATO wanted Ukraine as member they could have had it in 96. In 1991 Ukraine had 791,000 in military. In 2014 Ukraine had 6k combat troops. Russia promised to guarantee an economically prosperous neutral Ukraine but Russia sabotaged neutral Ukraine economically and crippled it with Russian corruption and interference since independence in 1991. In 2014 Ukraine was neutral and demilitarised but Russia invaded it anyway because that was always the plan and anything else is just Kremlin propaganda.

Lex is a demonstration of a smart person that is extremely dumb in area outside his main focus.

@yous2244

6 ай бұрын

Yeah like Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk, especially Jordan Peterson when he started talking politics

@user-lp8ur5qn3o

6 ай бұрын

@@yous2244 Exactly, Jordan Peterson studied USSR history and now thinks he understands everything there is to know and that everyone is dumb on this issue except him.

@documenter1199

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lp8ur5qn3o nah bro stop the hate despite some discrepancies he has deep insight.

@Zeckellin

6 ай бұрын

@@yous2244 From your lips to God's ears! When the SMO broke out, Jordan went right away to interview Fred Kagan "to get to the bottom of what was going on." I nearly cried. My hero revealed that indeed he has feet of clay. I wanted to shout out "Jordan, please, stay in your lane" but alas.

@megamastah

6 ай бұрын

​@@yous2244Agree. I respect JBP a lot, but his take on external politics is hot garbage, all the while being preached with absolute certainty. He talks a lot about the romantic appeal of communism/Russia, only to fall prey to it.

Lex is so politically naive, geo-politic is all about interest. Interpersonal trust means nothings.

@timmy-wj2hc

6 ай бұрын

He has the mentality of a 5 year old.

@greasher926

6 ай бұрын

Yep both sides need to make real compromises. Most compelling would be Russia getting those territories they have already annexed and in return Ukraine gets to join EU/NATO. That or Russia returns all the territories back and Ukraine becomes neutral. However both sides want their cake and eat it too, so no diplomatic progress can be made.

@taoforte8988

6 ай бұрын

The naivety is an act, which makes him untrustworthy.

Great interview well done 👍

@6:37 Ukraine was “on its own” pre 2014 and how did that work out for the country? You cannot just ignore historical events by picking and choosing what to remember.

@TheBigWall3284

5 ай бұрын

Not really. Lots of outside interference.

@user-jh5dq9vc1v

5 ай бұрын

Literal coup staged by western powers 🤦‍♂️

This is incredible. This is what "they will never learn", " history repeats itself" is all about. "The war starts on February 24, 2022". Hey asshole, 2014 called, he wants his beginning of the war title back.

Lex is a hopeless romantic. One would rather live in the real world difficult as it is.

Friedman is a great way to cure insomnia

Is the guy on the left half asleep ?

Lol. John explains how France, Germany and Ukraine leaders said one thing but did another thing and Russia leader lost trust to their words Lex again talks about leader word...

@romanroman1850

6 ай бұрын

​@@ZugZugMahognymearssomethings aren't just informed of that ((...

@ApakukiNayacakalou

6 ай бұрын

this guy needs to quit while he is ahead, not dig a bigger hole! What a dunce! LOL!

@dan-bz7dz

6 ай бұрын

@@ZugZugMahogny After a coup. Funny because the West were talking about invading Niger for the same reason. But Russia isn't allowed to play with the same rules

@triglavbog7527

6 ай бұрын

after killing of the Russians, banning of the Russian language and Russian political parties in Ukraine.. Of course they had to come in.@@romanroman1850

@eachday5705

6 ай бұрын

​@@dan-bz7dz This is misinformation. Ukraine is a parliamentary-presidential republic. The parliament remained intact, and President Yanukovych fled. The same parliament that once voted for Yanukovych's laws also voted for his removal from the presidency due to non-compliance with the labor code. President Yanukovych had the full right to challenge this decision in court but did not do so. That's all, no terrifying coup.

Lex dumbing down his audience geolopolitically, as he has been the whole time. Thank God for Mearsheimer.

@melvynobrien6193

6 ай бұрын

Mearsheimer and his "frozen conflict," a load of nonsense.

@mrsinghsstereos6662

6 ай бұрын

@@melvynobrien6193ok clown

@doofyler

6 ай бұрын

It's more dumb and dumber. Mearshmeiler Splitting even more nonsense

@Chadmeleon

6 ай бұрын

@@melvynobrien6193 what's your solution? inDIviDauL LeADeRs tAlking about feelings? LMAO

@charlesspencer6339

6 ай бұрын

If only he was naive. Very early on he calculated that he is up against his revenue stream if he discusses this conflict objectivly. Now when the invevitable has unfolded he has no leg to stand on so he preaches love. So dissapointing, thats why there is only one Joe Rogan 15:28

How often does trust overrule the Prisoner's dilemma? Clearly not enough to make the prisoner's dilemma irrelevant.

one person may be able to trust another person, but unless that person has full control when they go back home it doesn't matter.

"I believe in democracy but I also believe in autocracy when it suits me" - Lex

@Raul_Menendez

5 ай бұрын

Lex Luger

@michdo23

5 ай бұрын

Lex. And everone else, sadly.

@szymonbaranowski8184

5 ай бұрын

Lex Luthor

@Inchaos42

4 ай бұрын

He is russian

@sangueblu8383

4 ай бұрын

there is no democracy, there are only autocrats (individuals or as a group) who are democratically elected. btw democracy has been a rotten system ever since it was created in ancient greece

Every time I watch Lex’s videos, it’s like I’m watching an undertaker conduct an interview.

@filonsky

6 ай бұрын

i'm dead

@peperider

5 ай бұрын

you just watched this specific clip 🤦🏻‍♂️

@0risenloudly

5 ай бұрын

@@peperider enjoying lex's questions is a litmus test, you probably also really enjoy Michael bay movies

@RickRossYuhM8

5 ай бұрын

a braindead one at that

John is so patient and thorough in his explanation. Amazing guy.

Chamberlain (after meeting him) trusted Hitler (against his advisors) to not invade Czech. because he seemed honourable and said he wouldn't.

An interviewer's job is to get the most out of his guest. You have to earn the right to have your opinion be relevant to the interview, as Prof. Mearsheimer has, but Lex has not. I couldn't believe the naivete in his last question where it was all about his ill-informed opinion, and the shocked look on John's face as he had to politely tell him no, that's not how things work.

@dingo8babym20

6 ай бұрын

He sounds like a tankie. EVERYTHING is the U.S. fault. He thinks it's best that weak countries submit to dictators. It would be bad - because, yes, there would be bloodshed - if we intervened. That's what we did with Poland, and Czechoslovakia 85 years ago. How'd that go?

@RlsIII-uz1kl

6 ай бұрын

John represents the view of the permanent political class within every allied nation and the unelected globalist oligarchies (not all) who've used neoliberal economics and unconstitutional military acts to finacially bend and militarily break those with different cultures and traditions for power wealth and resources in the false name of freedom and democracy. We've watched the faltering of the unipolar liberal international order because of those facts and a new unipolar international international order has risen. We're also witnessing a National Populist global movement that'll redemocratize the rising Western Civilization State. What we're watching play out was theorized by prized author and Harvard Professor Samuel P Huntington. We have a lot of work to do if we plan on staying on top! Trump 2024!

@kingenoname1495

6 ай бұрын

This is guy has bought and paid for by Putin. Don’t buy anything he is selling.

@tatianalyulkin410

6 ай бұрын

Because everything is. Starting with Operation Paperclip. We've become too bold, too unreasonable, too greedy. If we wanted to hold onto Ukraine we should have been sending the people who grew up in the Mexican States and nobody else. True, Yares'ko is a Ukrainian but she's not a Texan or Californian- what the hell could she know about keeping the peace between the Anglos and the Mexicans? But then again- the Blake Association never wanted peace, right? Of course right. The idea that my fellow Californians Pelosi, Speier and Feinstein didn't know what the hell they were doing when they allowed an open Banderite by the name of Yuschenko with his CIA wife to influence Ukrainian politics is laughable.

@a8uella

6 ай бұрын

It’s genuinely mind boggling

"Trust is based on actions, not mere words."

@jonathanmora8208

6 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!!!!

Por supuesto, termine acá! Gracias lex, qué maravilloso invitado.

@mathias373

3 ай бұрын

Invitado si,pero Lex no.

3:40 In every peace talk ever between leaders, they always come away with that "tremendous progress was made"; this line of thought isn't a useful anecdote.

*The truth hurts doesn't it Lex.*

War didnt start at 2022... it began at 2014... 3:11

@8uratino

5 ай бұрын

officially it was a civil war

@henrikasb1626

5 ай бұрын

@@8uratino Even if it was a civil war, there were ruz soldiers involved. People were tracking em down with footage.

@8uratino

5 ай бұрын

I know. I'm just saying that officially war started in 2/24/2022

@stanbondarev9256

5 ай бұрын

@@8uratino "officially" both sides have not declare war yet, officially only putin declared he send russian armied forces into Ukraine (to provide "deukrainianzasion" or what-ever-he-want)... Indeed it has really started in 2014.

@xo121w

5 ай бұрын

@@8uratino civil war with Russian military involved. makes sense lol. was Iraq civil war too?

This is among the very first times I managed to watch Lex's podcast interviews. Why does he seem off and a tad fantastical when interviewing a political scientist such as Mearsheimer in this video?

@jenniferabel2811

5 ай бұрын

You are right that it was a very weak interview, in which Lex seemed "unprepared." He can be a surprisingly fabulous interviewer, but no, not always. :)

Putin said he want to reform the great Russian empire of Peter the great ,Sir …..why don’t you believe him?

It's not Putin and Zelensky that need to talk - it's Putin and NATO.

@freeloader247

6 ай бұрын

NATO is a US client organization. Washington is an adversary .

@robosergTV

6 ай бұрын

did russia attack NATO or Ukraine? The russian invasion has nothing to do with NATO, its about Ukraine.

@marcinromanczyk9587

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@robosergTVyoure in the wrong comments section on YT for sure my friend.

@ashfield1425

6 ай бұрын

@@robosergTVIt has everything to do with NATO. For Christ’s sake go and read something and become educated. So frustrating seeing these brain dead drone like comments.

@jinkazama7491

6 ай бұрын

That’s what some people still don’t get. It was never about Zelensky, he’s just a fall guy. It’s the US/NATO that are really pulling his strings.

One of the things I've just learned from watching this interview is that John Mearsheimer appears to be a very patient and very kind interlocuter. Holy shit, Fridman has no idea just how kind.

@RobinHarris-nf4yv

6 ай бұрын

John Mearsheimer is talking bolox, it's pure opinion. It was Russian atrocities in Bucha that ended any negotiations not the West

@TheBigWall3284

6 ай бұрын

​@@RobinHarris-nf4yvexcuses.

@RudySanErik

6 ай бұрын

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv You really belive in that BS. Look up some articles about that "incident" its full of fals claims. NYT is writing about bevidence (fotos/videos/vitneses) bot never show any. its sus

@sava411

5 ай бұрын

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv source?

@VladislavDoroshuk

5 ай бұрын

@@sava411 mary jane

At Russias rate of advance, they'll take Odessa in a few centuries. As for ukraine being a rump state, doesn't Russia require a navy in the black sea to make that happen? Putin dying or being overthrown is more likely than this guy's predictions.

@techpriestdominus8611

Ай бұрын

Mearshimer published a paper in before German reunifications saying if they ever reuinify Germany will Immeadiately and Inevitably invade poland. so much for his expertise lmao

I agree with John, on that point.

I really admire Lex's idealism. But this "sitting across the table / trust in talking man-to-man" idea was tried before. Truman on Stalin during the Potsdam Conference: "I liked the s.o.b." And then came the 45-year Cold War. I don't have a solution I could lay out in a comment section, but I can say more is needed than "the power of the individual."

@taoforte8988

6 ай бұрын

You encapsulated my thoughts on Lex's idealism in a much more polite way than I am able to, because to me, he is being purposefully ignorant. For what reason? I can only speculate that it's related to self branding.

@anderseckstrand7033

6 ай бұрын

@BarinKayaoglu....... This is a war the US provoked and strived for for over a decade when Putin has tried several times to negotiate peace with surprisingly fair terms. Keeping Viktor Yanukovych in power would have been much more preferable, especially to Ukraine’s survival. But the US neocons, globalists, and Military Industrial Complex wanted to create a new taxpayer laundering conflict they could immensely profit from at the expense of NATO and Eastern European security.

@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns

6 ай бұрын

Or maybe you misread history. Maybe if there were more Tehran, Yalta and Potsdam conferences after the war, then deténte with the Soviet Union could've been the order of the day. Don't forget that Stalin defined his rise to power by halting the Soviet Union's war against Poland and the East. This was part of his "socialism in one country" foreign policy in stark contrast to Trotsky who wanted endless war with the West under what he called "Permanent Revolution". Stalin also reached out to Western powers like Great Britain and France to contain Hitler prior to being rebuffed, and thence signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in an attempt to secure his eastern flank. Like Putin, Stalin also sought membership inside NATO. The Russians lost 27 million in that war, the third such war in which Russia was almost wiped off the face of the Earth after Napoleon and the Kaiser invaded years before, and even the US supported the whites in their civil war with Russia. Stalin needed to dominate Eastern Europe as his way of guaranteeing Russian/Soviet security from future western invasions. That's why he pushed Germany's border back to the Oder-Nesse Line. That's why he dominated Eastern Europe. That's why he allowed Finland to remain neutral (because the west could not easily invade via Finland). Stalin's post-WW2 domination of Eastern Europe was thus pragmatic, not ideological, much like the US has had its puppet states around the world since overthrowing Mossadegh in Iran.

@anderseckstrand7033

6 ай бұрын

@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns.....Very well said. Most westerners don’t even know that Putin wanted to become a NATO member and do business with Europe. Putin actually admires European culture, and up until recently, was doing a lot of business with Eastern Europe and Germany.

@TheAntsh

6 ай бұрын

He thinks that leaders of countries are like absolute monarchs alone can decide everything. The thing is any leader is just a face representing many different power/financial structures and interests within a country. That's why Zel couldn't negotiate - his hands were and still are tied by banderites and Nato puppet masters.

10:45 civil war where FSB was the only reason it even started? Since 2014 Russia was in a hybrid war against Ukraine

@lexfridman you need to have a debate between Stephen Kotkin vs John Mearsheimer. JM would lose.

It is amazing how differently the two sides view this conflict with the exception that they both seem to agree that this war will continue or temporarily stop as a frozen conflict as neither side sees the other agreeing to give ground to the other. Personally, i think we've got at least 2-3 more years before this even freezes unless one side is just physically unable to continue during that time.

12:58 I'm not sure I understand Lex's point about human nature and trust. Lets say he's right that Putin has that capacity to trust Zelensky, like he's capable of doing it. But assuming Mearsheimer is right about the Minsk agreements (which idk), what reason has he been given to do so? For the hope of ending the war? Assuming Mearsheimer is correct about Minsk, then Putin can only believe that any negotiation now is yet another attempt for Ukraine to further entangle with NATO, resulting in an even bloodier war in a few years time.

@AbcDino843

6 ай бұрын

Mearsheimer doesn't have an "opinion" about Minsk, that he can be right or wrong about. His statements on Minsk are based on explicit statements of EU officials made in a public forum. This is a matter of public record, it's a fact.

@tatianalyulkin410

6 ай бұрын

Not assuming- Uncle John is correct about Minsk.

@Aleks.Markov

6 ай бұрын

Lex has no idea either he’s just trying to come off inspirational and is way out of his league.

@tatianalyulkin410

6 ай бұрын

95% of Americans don't truly understand the conflict. The minute you start repeating the official Party drivel you've become totally useless as an analyst.

@pervnav14

6 ай бұрын

Lex using platitudes substituting a lack of knowledge

This guy, Fridman, is incredibly naive. Mearsheimer is being polite to him, and is gracious in the way that he is taking this guy to "school".

@jojomojo3847

6 ай бұрын

But Mearsheimer is appearing just as naive, pretending the agressor being the real victim here... with age it seems you CAN lose a sense of reality.

@mrobocop1666

6 ай бұрын

@@jojomojo3847 there is no black and white, kid

Lex is a wonderful guy. Honestly! This is ugly war. Loss of young lives on both sides is staggering 😢

How naive can grown up men be? What was last agreement that Russia actually kept? There's no country in the world who has discarded so many agreements as Russia.

Lex, I like your idealistic solution to this situation. But I'm sorry to say, that will never happen.

From a Cold War to a Lukewarm War

@info781

6 ай бұрын

Ukraine is fighting for is very survival as a country. For them it is very hot.

@Wilykij

6 ай бұрын

Ukraine is fighting because US and UK forced them, Ukraine has no say in this one

@info781

6 ай бұрын

@@Wilykij This is a common Russian theme, that Ukraine is not a real country or culture, just a proxy, so why would people want to protect it? That is why Russians like you can not understand why they fight back. It is very insulting to Ukraine , but that is your point.

@tatianalyulkin410

6 ай бұрын

Oh, for God's sake stop with this drivel. The Banderites started all this crap.

@romanroman1850

6 ай бұрын

How many people are playing muskovites' tune ((...

Lord Mountbaten: "If you have an ennemy, buy him ! If you have a friend, sell him !"

I'm so used to Lex speaking intelligently in other episodes, it was startling to hear him talking at a polysci high school level.

@zeez4178

5 ай бұрын

😅

@philipmulville8218

5 ай бұрын

He sounds stoned to me.

Lex really needs to stop offering his lame opinions.

@nomadkxm3240

6 ай бұрын

He is so cringe

@mikexhotmail

6 ай бұрын

It is "Normie lame opinions" he offering. ps. He just act as it is his own.

@timmy-wj2hc

6 ай бұрын

He is a Slavic, raised in US, brainwashed by US propaganda and has the mentality of 5 year old. So naive and childish.😂

@AmbivertFellow

6 ай бұрын

Lex is Russian and he wants his people both Russian and Ukrainian (Slavic, Christian Men) to stop killing each other, it comes from a loving heart.

@wthomas5697

6 ай бұрын

Of course he does. However, emotional reactions aren't useful in evaluating reality. @@AmbivertFellow

Russia shouldn’t settle for anything less than everything east of the Dnipro.

@stasodessit3965

6 ай бұрын

If they do , they leave the a Nazi boil right next door. A terrorist state that looks and talks without accent . It would be a big mistake for the Russian s.

@AbcDino843

6 ай бұрын

I think with everything that happened in the Black Sea, Odessa is almost certainly not going to stay with Ukraine.

@andrewcharles4349

6 ай бұрын

@@AbcDino843 Agreed

@definitelynotthecia4998

6 ай бұрын

Lol where do all you ru bots spawn from?

@sunilsilva8204

6 ай бұрын

@@definitelynotthecia4998 seems like you are sooo blind that you dont see how the west shot in thier foot now..dont you? keep wishing the west and NATO will come out as winner..

I love all the people making comments that didn't listen to the full podcast. That's what sucks about short clips. Well done lex, I have you and Rogan side by side. Just depends on what I wanna learn today.

13:14 Would anyone explain how the British and Americans stopped a potential deal in March?

@mathias373

3 ай бұрын

I will.The US sent clown Boris Johnson who told Zelenski to back off and keep fighting.

How does the US talk to Putin without admitting that Ukraine was just a proxy?

@yammy1688

6 ай бұрын

No need. It is widely known that Ukraine is just that.

@khairt1731

6 ай бұрын

​@@yammy1688Putin is not picking up their phone calls. Putin hasnt been talking to Biden, Macron or Schultz since last year.

@ijustifymylies

6 ай бұрын

Welp it's a democracy guess it's a proxy. Unlike the baltic states where several heads are in fact plants by Putin, Ukraine elected its own leader, it's not a proxy, it's of interest to all of Europe to not have another Russian planted leader at their border. Get your brain retooled homie you sound like a bot or sympathizer to the invader. You know what a proxy looks like, go back to iran before 1979, or any of the sh*t the US did in the 1980s. get lost with your false equivocation.

@mariozwingmann6269

6 ай бұрын

​@@khairt1731not true

@jacobwatson3781

6 ай бұрын

The question is, why is Russia so sensitive.

"Nato expansion is silly at this point"?! Have you talked about this with Finland and Sweden as well? If Putin's idea was to stop Nato expansion, he failed miserably: he got more than +1.300km of Nato border to take care of.

The questioning pattern employed by Lex appears to be lacking coherence. There is a discernible disconnect between the second question and the guest's response to the initial inquiry, suggesting a failure to connect the dots accurately. This inconsistency raises concerns about the interview's overall quality, and I am contemplating discontinuing my listenership to his show.

@eduardohernandezrequejo5228

2 ай бұрын

Verbose level: high

@techpriestdominus8611

Ай бұрын

wow you sound like a woman

What is super sad about that war is that neither side releases real casualties number, and we will likely never know the extent of the human cost of that war, more than estimates.

@RomanMakukhin

5 ай бұрын

Why do you need the numbers and don't question the lack of critical thinking in the statements made by the guest?

@DimaErmakov97

2 ай бұрын

​@@RomanMakukhinzero chance you come from an educated background after saying this

I'll save you 15mins Lex: I believe in fairy tales. John: That's not how the real world works son. Plus Putin and Zelensky doesn't believe in fairy tales.

@Dan.50

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Allynism100

6 ай бұрын

😂

@tansekkuan

6 ай бұрын

You summed it up pretty well.

@artempohribnyi

6 ай бұрын

Thanks👍

@AlexAlexich

6 ай бұрын

LOL!! Haha. So true. Truth+humor in one short comment. Made my day! thanks

This war will also be seen with the perspective of time as the moment when after 300 years of looking West, Russia turns to full engagement with the East

@SenorJuan2023

6 ай бұрын

The Chinese historyically are not fond of Russians. They would never really trust each other. That's what happens when you criminal mentalities on both sides.

@doofyler

6 ай бұрын

​@@rusaforever4651 sorry but highest gdp in Europe still is Germany

@coshyno

6 ай бұрын

For how long ?@@doofyler

@victorbulachi1526

6 ай бұрын

​@@doofylerdo you know why it was Germany? Thanks to cheap russian gas.Now they will not have it)

@doofyler

6 ай бұрын

@@victorbulachi1526 they don't have cheap russian gas for at least one year. Yet they still have a bigger gdp. Russia is basically Nigeria with a lot of snow and vodka. They're manufactured products are shits, only thing russia can seel is raw ressources. That's all

Lex's ingenuity on geopolitcs is shocking.

Weren't the British the ones to push military aid for Ukraine in March-April of 2022?

"The civil war in Ukraine" - you mean the one that had superstar-FSB agent Strelkov running it from the very start?

@yuriy5376

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, even Strelkov himself admitted that if it wasn't for him crossing the border in 2014 with his russian fascist fanatics and FSB officers and smuggling a ton of weaponry from russia, there wouldn't have been a war in Donbass in 2014

@nathanhiggers4606

6 ай бұрын

So spanish civil war wasn't civil because there were thousand of international volunteers? 🤡

To put it more into a Computer Scientist's point of view regarding world politics so that Lex may understand; it's like a giant never-ending game of Game Theory: every 'agent' is always trying to maximise its 'utility'. There is no room for 'human trust'. States are 'machines', not 'squishy humans'.

@stateofopportunity1286

5 ай бұрын

Just like corporations.

@CashCatz

5 ай бұрын

This is a great analogy.

@cpthrki5852

5 ай бұрын

Well it shows you have zero clue on game theory. Spoiler alert, being mean in game theory means you lose, trust and forgiveness are winning traits.

@cobanus2862

6 күн бұрын

Human machines*

What John Mearsheimer says, should be clear at this point for everyone.

6:00 / 15:28 23 per cent of Ukraine land The speaker suggests that Ukraine should become neutral and completely sever all security ties with the West, and Ukraine should accept the fact that Russia will not give back the four oblas it has annexed - territorial status quo. Mearsheimer also notes that the EU's expansion into the region is problematic for Russia, as it is seen as a potential threat to NATO expansion, and that establishing healthy economic relationships between Ukraine and the West is possible, but depends on reaching an agreement on territorial issues. Ultimately, Mearsheimer argues that leadership matters and that it is possible for individual human relations to counteract the structural forces at play, but that it will require trust and cooperation among all parties involved.

5:10 Lex: "Let me push back on your argument" then Lex's argument basically makes Mearsheimer's point! 🤔

Scuttling negotiations early on in this war was a terrible choice.

@phoenixrising4073

5 ай бұрын

Not for the military industrial complex it wasn't. It was a great decision for them and all their shareholders. I wonder how much money Raytheon and Lockheed Martin used for lobbying and soft money on our politicians?

@adamblack267

4 ай бұрын

It has caused bloodshed beyond comprehension.

Prof Mersheimer correctly predicting the future (again)

@13:50 exactly what happened to Slobodan Milosevic from Serbia, he trusted in negotiations with NATO and look what happened to him.