"Red is also used for the cable car, but no one cares." Truer words never spoken.

@chrisgironde6669

2 жыл бұрын

Is the cable car of any use to anyone other than tourists ?

@trentr9762

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgironde6669 I suppose if you live next to the station on one end and work at the other yes. Otherwise probably not

@LolBot720

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgironde6669 Is it of any use to tourists?

@chrisgironde6669

2 жыл бұрын

@@LolBot720 only for them to say “I went on the cable car” Bit like going up Snowdon in Wales. Those who go up on the train buy the hat saying “I’ve been up Snowdon”. Those who walk up don’t need the hat

@Chris-nq9nb

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgironde6669 it's very handy of you want to go from the middle of nowhere to a rubbish dump.

I've been always thinking that the Bakerloo Line is coloured brown because of the 'loo' in the name 😊

@NetCafeCat

2 жыл бұрын

Same here 😂

@CyclingSteve

2 жыл бұрын

But also 'baker' as in bread if it needed to be a clean pun.

@eastlancsesteem

2 жыл бұрын

It's brown because it's a crap line.

@raakone

2 жыл бұрын

"Loo" only got its current meaning during and after World War 2, before that it was always "lavatory" or "W.C." ("Loo" was a mangling of "L'eau", or "the water", because British servicemen who went to France noticed that, outside the main cities, people still used chamber pots, and before emptying one out the front, it was polite to warn "Gardez l'eau" or "watch out for the water")

@raakone

2 жыл бұрын

@@CyclingSteve more likely....much bread and many pastries are a shade of brown, or at least on the outside are.

What a beautiful icon of London Underground history. Harry Beck was a genius. There have been many underground railways that follow this example, but nothing can beat the original.

Who remembers the monochrome tube maps on the back of the London A-Z maps?

@roboftherock

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, now I remember it being there, but the detail is lost in the mists of time. Open circles, filled circles, squares, triangles - all contained within thin black parallel lines come to mind. I wonder if my recollections are correct.

@bordershader

2 жыл бұрын

@@roboftherock you're right, although it was all in dark blue, the same colour as the A>Z logo, no? Blimmin nightmare to read!

@atraindriver

2 жыл бұрын

It's still produced by TfL, as a PDF you can find here: tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube

*_"Red is also used for the Cable Car, but no one cares!"_* LMAO Jago, you come out with some good lines!!! 🤣💖

@alejandrayalanbowman367

2 жыл бұрын

but what colour are they? Jago's lines, that is.

Jago, it occurred to me that by making this video, you might be cementing the origin stories for the Tube colours. Twenty years or more from now, people might cite you as a source for why the colours are what they are.

@PopeLando

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he said "there is no definitive history of the choice of colours" and I immediately thought "I think this is it!"

It takes a special sort of nerdism to map colours to a diagram of lines. Good work. (For info; Harry Beck was employed by the Underground as a signalling draughtsman and so was accustomed to using colours and straight lines to depict wiring connections on signalling installations.)

@Brian3989

2 жыл бұрын

Electrical components often used a colour code to indicate a number: black = 0, brown =1, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, grey, white = 9. Beck probably knew those.

@SkepticalSteve01

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian3989 However he arrived at those colours, he did a damn fine job. I have trouble distinguishing between certain shades of red and green, which I understand is the commonest form of colour “blindness”, especially among men. And yet I’ve never had any trouble using Beck-based tube maps - all the colours are vivid enough for even a wonky old bloke like me to work out how to get where I want to go. Unlike plenty of more modern maps and diagrams.

@andyknott8148

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian3989 Bye, Bye, Rosy Off You Go Birmingham Via Great Western, if you were taught by the GPO.

@Andrew.Prince

2 жыл бұрын

I know a direct version, Blacy Brown...

@andyknott8148

2 жыл бұрын

@@creamwobbly I had not heard that, but I shall added to my collection. Anyway they taught me well on resistor colour codes.

I chose the London Underground as the subject for my presentation for my final English exams and I made sure to memorize by heart the colors of the Tube Map so that I could impress the examiners by listing it all without having to look at my poster for guidance. As someone who's never even been to the UK, it went extremely well, so that's a sign of how well the map is made and how iconic the colors are. For some lines, the color just 'felt' right; red fits Central, Waterloo & City has a light blue feel to it and the word 'Metropolitan' just screams that shade of purple to me. However, for two lines there were little mnemonics I came up with that I still love myself for: the Bakerloo line is brown like the bread that bakers make, and the Hammersmith & City Line is pink like ham. I also soon noticed that the lines in the index on the Tube map are not only alphabetical, but most of them are also in a bit of a gradient-like order from top to bottom, with the gray of the Jubilee being the only real outlier; even the brown and black fit in well. This made it even more easy to remember if I ever got stuck; I'd just start with the brown Bakerloo, then continue down the rainbow of Tube lines.

For those desperately googling, as I was - it’s spelled “Midcared”. Literally the only references to it are about the metropolitan railway, except for one google books result which is erroneously merging a hyphenated word across two columns. My guess: it’s a contraction of “middle carriage red”. But I suspect the actual etymology may be lost to history. Maybe set CGPGrey on it, seems like the kind of thing he’d waste six months on.

@Krzyszczynski

2 жыл бұрын

My guess is that 'midcared' might derive in part from the Midland railway, whose engines were painted in a very similar colour (officially called by them 'crimson lake', a name I remember well from the paintboxes I had as a kid). The 'ca' bit baffles me, though. Carriage?

@JesmondBeeBee

2 жыл бұрын

Mid carmine red maybe?

@markwright3161

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I was just looking for some more photos of the colour and mis-spelling combined with Google's attempts to find the nearest popular thing, stuff the algorithms 'think' I'd like and autocorrect/complete (for search terms) got me as far as 'mica red', which is apparently a colour common on Lexus', and I gave up. :)

@EleanorBrimblecombe

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwright3161 If you want it to search for something specific you can put " quotes on either end of the word or phrase

@2H80vids

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krzyszczynski My guess would be Midland Carriage Red.

The first time I went on the tube, was with my dad, up on the District Line from Dagenham Heathway to Old Street. The map looked like a horrfying spaghetti of coloured lines to me, and at Tower Hill, we got off, and dad pointed out our station on the map, and taught me how to read it, in a couple of minutes.

"Red is also used for the cable car, but no-one cares" Savage, but I LOL'd!

As someone with enough colour blindness to struggle with traffic lights, the tube map has never caused me any difficulties. I am suitably impressed and very grateful for that. Feeling the love for the cable car here. Vertigo issue?

@hansamitamajee1930

2 жыл бұрын

7:18 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@johnm2012

2 жыл бұрын

I bet that's the result of a happy accident. I don't think they'd give much thought to accessibility at the time the colours were chosen. There's a black and white version of the map that uses shapes (tiny squares, triangles, circles, etc) instead of colours but that's more of a concession to printing technology than to accessibility.

@trickygoose2

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect colour blindness is a reason there isn't a solid green line on the tube map.

@johnm2012

2 жыл бұрын

@@trickygoose2 The District line?

@luxford60

2 жыл бұрын

@@trickygoose2 apart from The District Line, which is not only a solid green, but has always been a solid green.

Your comment about new colours being possible with better station lighting makes me realise that the choices must have been made thinking about the colour temperature of 1930s electric lighting. And they held up under fluorescent, too. It's magnificent.

This is an educated guess but "Midcared" might be a reference to the Midland Railway which used a very similar maroon colour...maybe its a a shortened version of "MIDland CARriage RED????"

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

Now were not the Metropolitan Carriages a different shade from the Locomotives ( most were stained Teak of course but something got coloured - maybe the later acquired sets used more recently for network tours and special events ?

@starsINSPACE

2 жыл бұрын

midcarred could be somebody not spelling med(ium) currant? It sorta looks like a currant paint color to me idk

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

@@starsINSPACE seems a good rasin

"Or filled in the time you were waiting for the kettle to boil." So one might say, the average ride between Acton Town and South Acton and back? Loved the video Jago!

@mdhazeldine

2 жыл бұрын

Or the time it takes to ride the Waterloo and City line

@andyknott8148

2 жыл бұрын

Well at least someone has watched a previous video and listened to the script.

@richteffekt

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent drop of Jago nerdism.

My dad has different theories. Since the far north is normally dark for half a year, that's why the northern line is black. Since the circle line forms a circle, just like a ring, then it's gold. Because the bakerloo line has the word baker, it means that it is bread-coloured. Since the DLR runs across water, it is blue.

@ronaldraygoon

2 жыл бұрын

The Bakerloo line has the word "loo" in it, which means that...

@56independent42

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldraygoon yeah that too whatever

@bluemountain4181

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the North (and Midlands which is also north of London) was associated with coal mining which is notorious for getting black everywhere

As a printing apprentice more than 50 years ago the firm I worked for was given an opportunity to print the map, it was a nightmare!!! Offset Lithography employs water, and between each separate colour run the paper would swell and put the previously printed colours out of register I seem to recall they made the plates six times but I could be wrong on that. I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming.

I remember when the Victoria Line opened. The blue of the Piccadilly Line got noticable darker to distance it from the lighter blue of the Victoria.

I always admired the Tube Map, it is a diagram, but one of the best ever designed. Thanks to that I am more familiar with the London Underground than with mass transit in NYC, Chicago, and any other American city where I actually live.

My favourite metro line colour scheme is from Hangzhou, China, where they follow standard colours from the rainbow, line 1 = red, 2 = orange, 3 = yellow, and from line 8 they repeat the rainbow using less standard shades, maroon, brown, etc.

Waiting impatiently for the episode covering the history of upholstery on the tube... 😳

@henrybest4057

2 жыл бұрын

Vicky Pipe is an expert on railway moquettes.

@SportyMabamba

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrybest4057 I smell a crossover episode!

I like how the Elizabeth line is named for Prince’s “Purple Train”

@TheFrogfather1

2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear :P

@duhovnik

2 жыл бұрын

Purple colour stands for evelasting love, as it is the last colour in the rainbow. 💜

@johnm2012

2 жыл бұрын

Purple is a colour that used to be reserved for the use of kings and queens only, mostly because only they could afford it.

@eekee6034

2 жыл бұрын

A pun so bad, I just had to upvote it! XD

"Black and Blue" - I love it! Seriously the Beck map is, technically a 'topographical transformation' with links (Lines) and nodes (stations), but as you say, you've got to get your chuckles where you can in cartography

I'd agree that the initial colours on the Beck map were chosen as they would be easier to reproduce and still stay clear if the Poster was bleached by sunlight.

@stepheneyles2198

2 жыл бұрын

Did they have sun in the old days? Everything seemed so dull on the black and white photos of the time...

I can remember as a kid that there were lights on the ceiling of connecting tube walkways that showed the colour(s) of the line they led to. All you had to know was the line's colour and make sure that the overhead cluster contained that colour as at some stations it served a few lines. Anyone else old enough to remember them?

@rolandharmer6402

2 жыл бұрын

I do (69 years old). Coloured lights were also sometimes used on buses to denote operators and routes including the old Edinburgh trams.

@roberthuron9160

2 жыл бұрын

In the rabbit warren,that was/is the 42nd Street,connecting tunnels,for Grand Central Terminal,all the way to the 8th Avenue line[A,C,E],there were,and probably still is color coded lights,and markers,for guidance 😀! That area is one of the most used underground passage way,in North America! Anyway,the Current MTA map,still has echoes of the old IRT,and BRT/BMT,if you know where to look!! Sometimes history stares you right in the face,but it's not really seen!! A side note,I had a bus map,from Los Angeles,and it had a delicate shade of yellow,that with the paper stock,it sort of faded into the background,not so good for people with weak eyesight!So I wrote to them,and made the suggestion that a darker shade of yellow would be most helpful for other users,and I hoped that the next edition of that map,would be easier to read!! In map making,you really should consider the 10 foot rule,as if the lines,do not show up at distance,then its due for revision!! Old photography trick,and a good test for eyesight! Thanks Jago,for the ins,and outs,of the reproduction/ printing,and the operation of the color wheel!! Thanks 😊!

@atraindriver

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandharmer6402 Coloured identification lights on buses were mostly a thing of the 1920s and 1930s. Especially in the rural areas many people couldn't read well (and, in fairness, most rural buses had woefully poor destination displays), but they could easily see that the bus coming had a light of a certain colour above the cab. Lincolnshire Road Car, for example, used a blue light until WW2 and advertised "Look for the blue light". Other companies used their name instead, a practice which lasted much longer; Midland Red's double deckers all had a small illuminated screen with the word "MIDLAND" above the destination display right through to the end of the 1960s when they were mostly painted over (early post-war BMMO single deckers also had them but they were below the windscreen and less visible, so they stopped being fitted by the 1960s).

It’s just a wild guess, but, you don’t appear to be a fan of the cable car! The way you mentioned it made me chuckle. I appreciate the dry humour. Thank you Jago.

"I did some digging," Show footage of dark tunnel that actually a bit scary

I’ve previously always thought of the Metropolitan as ‘plum’, but now I’ve actually taken a closer look for the first time in years and my world has been thrown into confusion and doubt…

Fascinating as always! I do love the idea that the Jubilee is actually supposed to be Battleship Gray, but simply called ‘silver’ to match the renaming. Oh, to live in the alternate timeline where it remained the Fleet Line…

@raakone

2 жыл бұрын

Just like the Victoria line, at one time, was going to be called the Viking line (VIctoria and KING's cross)

@eattherich9215

2 жыл бұрын

I guess the Elizabeth Line - nope, don't like that - is purple because of the assocation with royalty.

@johnjephcote7636

2 жыл бұрын

Horatio Nelson once spent a period of shore leave in the village of Kentish Town (with its open river Fleet). He said that he "wanted to keep an eye on the Fleet".

@moaningpheromones

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully being named the Jubilee Line was a fleet accompli.

@hyperdistortion2

2 жыл бұрын

@@moaningpheromones And not just a fleeting idea!

All of the subway cars/carriages in the US have stainless steel handrails and grips: Before this video I never noticed that the handrails and grips in London match the colors of their lines!

@TheExcalabur

2 жыл бұрын

It's a good feature, though it does make the bakerloo line even more dreary than it already is. Having been half-asleep on the tube while commuting having a reminder where you are is helpful.

@peterhoare2058

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve travelled regularly on the Tube since the 1980s and I’ve only just noticed from this video that the handrails and handles in the carriages are the colour of the line they are running on! 😲

This question is significantly easier to answer in Boston, where the lines of the MBTA subway are the Red Line, the Green Line, the Blue Line, and the Orange Line. (There's also the Silver Line, but, like the cable car, no one cares about that. :)

@LarryJohnVA

2 жыл бұрын

The same with the Washington DC Metro...

I really think that catching a train with the doors closing is one of the very few practical applications for an Olympic class long jumper.

Battleship Grey on a Fleet Line is a work of genius

In the days when colour printing was a bit expensive (for diaries and guides etc), there were black and white tube maps with rather confusing chains of blobs, crosses and cube patterns for the lines. The Northern Line was still a black line, though. I remember also that the British Rail diagrams of London's railways also once did something similar with the tube connections being shown in glorious monochrome.

@iankemp1131

2 жыл бұрын

It would be fascinating to see one of those reproduced again. I will have to have a look at the back of my Dad's old A to Z. Of course they would have run out of different patterns faster than colours.

There's more than enough material to produce a whole series of videos about Misha Black, a design god.

Thanks Jago. That lovely, iconic map design has fans and emulators everywhere. Even at the college where I teach we use it to show pathways that students can take to worthwhile careers and it is very effective indeed.

I love the digs towards the cable car

Was about to do my homework but 100% intentionally (seriously) clicked on the notification. Cheers for helping me procrastinate, Jago!!

@ideuni

2 жыл бұрын

OMG SAME

@mbrady2329

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying this isn't homework?! 😉

@RightAwayProductions005

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbrady2329 good point, but this certainly isn’t Spanish😂

@ideuni

2 жыл бұрын

@@RightAwayProductions005 or math lol

@mbrady2329

2 жыл бұрын

@@RightAwayProductions005 have a Spanish lesson on me: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYmopNaIdryyfpM.html

"you get your kicks where you can in cartography" amazing ;) hahaha

I am loving the shade being thrown to the Cable Car - TfLs white elephant perfect alongside the Millenium Dome. I would love to see you do a video on the history of Tube Map design and changes over time between the different versions. But not as much as I would love to see you and Geoff Marshall do a collab video together...

@tobys_transport_videos

2 жыл бұрын

Bring on both!!! 🤣💖

@archstanton6102

2 жыл бұрын

Throwing shade - I see what you did there.

Thank you for a very colourful video... good to have this down in black and white

I appreciate the simple design of the tube map for one of the largest and oldest transport networks in the world. For why it's a classic, why change something that ain't broke?

Misha Black also headed the design team who styled the D1000 “Western “ diesel hydraulics. Possibly the most handsome of all the diesel classes.

I still love the sheer contempt for the cable car on this channel

I’d always thought of the Metropolitan Line’s color on the Tube map as being a shade of plum, maybe because of a paint color that I’d seen at my previous employer. The light rail map in Pittsburgh was definitely influenced by Harry Beck’s design, even though it has three colors for each line... red, blue and beige (sometimes white depending on the background color, and that’s used for a section that goes through the neighborhood of Allentown).

Well, that was fun. Unexpectedly witty, very informative, and somewhat self-deprecating. Thanks a bunch. The purple/maroon colour used over here by Canadian Pacific we call "Tuscan Red"... very striking.

@SteamCrane

2 жыл бұрын

As did the Pennsylvania Railroad.

Boston’s Green Line is green because it connects the Public Gardens with Olmstead’s “Emerald Necklace” (a bunch of public parks and arboretums and zoos south of the city that were basically Olmstead’s demo reel for Central Park in NYC.) That’s actually the official story per the MBTA. The Green Line includes the oldest part of the line, which was built very soon after they started building the London Underground, so that might be where the confusion comes from.

What a maroon! It's clearly burgundy.

Hello, my wife and I really enjoy your potted histories of the Underground. With regard to the colour of the Met., they may have tried to reproduce their loco livery which was called 'Midland Crimson' : Pantone 188C; Carter 28; BS 381 C 540. Source: Liveries of the Pre-Grouping Railways Vol 4 p 372 by Nigel J.L. Digby; Lightmoor Press 2020

Fill in time while waiting to the Lincolnshire pudding's in the oven, (Yorkshire puddings really, but living in Lincolnshire we would never have anything to do the other side of the Humber) Keep up with the tales.👍🏻

There. You said it. The Drain. That's what I still call it.

@alejandrayalanbowman367

2 жыл бұрын

likewise

“Filled in the time while you were waiting for the kettle to boil” It was the baddest 4th wall break I’ve ever experienced

That 1908 map specifically highlights the 'Army,Navy & Auxiliary Stores' 🤔. A stimulating and sometimes challenging discourse 👍

If there was no definitive explanation of the colour of the tube lines before, then there is now!

As a Northern Line-er practically from birth, I've always been very happy that "my" line was the only "real" one, being a black line that was exactly the same in black and white.

Hi Jago I love this channel and all of its content. I was wondering if you could perhaps make a video about the burrowing of the tunnels and how the workers knew where they were going despite being underground. It seems astonishing they knew where to go despite being underground

I can remember seeing the tube map when I was a kid in the '80s, going up to see the Christmas lights in Oxford Street... being red-green colourblind, I used to get so confused I would just get an adult to point out the route we'd be taking because half the colours looked so similar I couldn't tell them apart, and trying to follow one specific line would give me a headache. Which is why I laughed when the comment about new colours being assigned on the basis of being "easily-distinguishable" came up.

@michaeljohnson9421

2 жыл бұрын

Some years ago you could buy a black & white edition of the London A-Z which featured a monochrome version of the tube map. The lines were shown by different patterns. The A-Z is now all-colour, and I haven't seen the monochrome map for a long time. I wonder if it's still available anywhere? I'm sure some people would find it easier to use than the colour version.

@cigmorfil4101

5 ай бұрын

​@@michaeljohnson9421 I remember a pre-Jubilee monochrome line map with the Bakerloo line splitting at Baker Street with a branch to Stanmore.

So much shade at the cable car, and I'm absolutely here for it

Good summary. It's interesting that on the very early map 1:00 the C&SLR is black, while the Hampstead line is a very dark colour that's slightly lighter, but very similar. A way of showing that the 2 lines would come together soon as one line, without actually showing them as one line?

Your channel is so good that I watch every video despite only having gone to London twice and I don't have any plans to return any time soon

The evolution of the tube map always fascinates people and enthusiasts. And yes the colour of the tube lines is ore simple but still gets confusing for some people who have never been to London. And the London Underground is to celebrate its 160th Birthday next year.

Fun fact, brown is actually just dark orange. Technology Connections did a video on it.

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

Didnt Tom Scott do something on Orange does not exist ?

@AaronOfMpls

2 жыл бұрын

The Technology Connections video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZxow7mTgte6p7g.html . In his words, "Brown is orange with context."

Thanks Jago…glad you’ve not bought a modern kettle yet. 😊

A very educational tale from the tube! I had wondered about those colours, so thanks for this video again!

I’m one of the 1 in 12 men that is red/green colour blind (though I struggle more with green/brown). Whilst some maps aren’t designed with red/green colour blindness in mind, the tube map appears to be, because whilst I couldn’t name some of the colours, I can distinguish them. It’s just as well the colours are distinguishable by colour blind travellers because statistically 210,000 tube journeys are taken by red/green colour blind people every day. The only time I’ve had a problem is not with the map, but the signs. I arrived at Green Park from Westminster and needed to get to Euston quickly. Whilst the Victoria and Piccadilly lines are easily distinguishable on the map, I couldn’t differentiate the colours in the station. It was rush hour and I was swept along with the masses and reckoned I only had a 50% chance of seeing my home again. I’d therefore appreciate Jago doing a follow up video on content.tfl.gov.uk/bw-large-print-map.pdf.

It seems to be not well known that the Harry Beck map was dropped for a short time at some point in the late 1950s or early 1960s. The colours were the same of course. I was born in late 1949, and I remember the change back to the Beck design, which I hadn't seen before.

Your videos continue to fascinate me and dry humour is always the best. Thank you! This was a very cool video.

I love the constant poking at the Cable Cars. They are the picket line to my TfL Strike.

Jago, I always enjoy the spectrum of your color commentary of the various lines of the underground, they really help map out the idea vividly.

8.10 ....the Northern City line, in its final days as a branch shuttling between Drayton Park and Moorgate, was white with a heavy black border on the tube map. When in 1976 it was transfered to British rail, it stayed on the tube map as white, with a fine white border, just like the north london line had when it was added to the map in 1981 at the GLCs insistance

Don't forget the DLR, which started as double blue lines to match the original blue and red logo, then became double dark teal lines when they adopted their second logo (technically "Petrol Blue", a weird choice for an electric railway) before finally adopting the current lighter teal.

As always, very interesting and entertaining. You've certainly coloured our lives with this video.I'll see myself out.

I always perceive the yellow of the Circular Line getting a orangy hue when it is next to the Hammersmith and City Line/Metropolitan Lines. As opposed to when it is next to the green of the District Line where it stands out very well.

@Krzyszczynski

2 жыл бұрын

Weird, isn't it, how colours can seem to vary depending on what other colours they're adjacent to. The Impressionist painters understood the phenomenon very well.

@Pinkybum

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krzyszczynski My point being that yellow was not a good colour to choose for the Circular Line because it doesn't work with the adjacent line colours.

@cigmorfil4101

5 ай бұрын

​@@Krzyszczynski The same effect happened with CRT TVs: the screen was grey when switched off and yet could display a darker black! (due to the contrast with the surrounding colours.)

The kettle boiled, but I didn't hear it. My wife will boil it again. The kettle turns itself off, now I'm going no further with this turning on and off conversation. We've survived 55 years as a married couple. I've said too much already for a survivor!

I love all the cable car jabbing going on in this one haha

Kettle boiled ages ago still waiting for my cheek muscles to stop cramping before I type this comment Thank you once again for cheering up a very flat Sunday

the constant making fun of the cable car is hilarious i love it

In French, the "dark red" of the metropolitan would be called "bordeaux" after the wine region. It's not just a dark red, but more of a dark red with hint of purple.

@stephengreenwald5271

2 жыл бұрын

And pretty much the same colour we call claret.

@stephenweston1807

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephengreenwald5271 ... or Burgundy...

@eekee6034

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenweston1807 Or what Philistines like me call wine. ;)

If my kettle took 10 minutes to boil I'd be taking it back to the shop... Or throwing it in the skip... Bin... Wherever old kettles go... Thanks Jago, for this entertaining, interesting, fun and colourful (colorful - for our friends on the opposite side) video about something we'd never though about before but now will remember each and every time we take the tube. Or don't as we don't live anywhere near London and have only been there a few times. Oh, sorry, that comments was too long, wasn't it?

I loved this video, keep them coming Jago!

Fascinating and entertaining as always, Jago !!

The Victoria Line was originally going to be Violet (well they share the 'V') and was shewn as such on the earliest 'under construction' maps of Hutchison. Early tests showed this colour didn't reproduce well on signage though.

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

Taken out with an eraser - rubbery on Violets.

I'm wearing a sweater watching that video that's midcard red.. and it was sold as Burgundy.. hmmm

I'm deffo going for black on the Northern Line, because it is the Darkness Line. When I started using it, it had the dimmest station lighting on the system and had a generally spooky feel other lines lacked. The stations have now been upgraded, relit &/or rebuilt (as currently Bank), but the line retains its inherent blackness.

I have a book about the tube map somewhere and it has some information about the choices of colours. Interestingly, Harry Beck's design was only used up to - I think - 1959. I'll have to dig it out and check.

According to my Enormous Shorter Oxford English Dictionary (Vol 1) Card is short for Cardinal meaning a red colour. Therefore Mid Card may be a duller version of that. Except that the colour of the Metropolitan Engines seem to be closer to Carmine - sort of purplish red.

Entertaining and it did fill the gap until lunch was ready

I can confirm that this was indeed a little bit enlightening, and a little bit entertaining, and I wasn't even waiting for the kettle to boil when I watched it. :D

Thanks Jago, just watched this. At the point (near the beginning) where you say: 'Well l did some digging', l envisioned you enthusiastically digging at the end of your garden to create your own Jago tube station !

Regarding "Midcared", I have seen a reference to it also being called "Hanbury Chocolate". There is also a theory that the colour was a result of an unwillingness to waste paint. When "Midcared" first appeared, it was not unknown for paint shops to mix the remaining paints. It was in the red spectrum because red was the most common colour in many paint shops, but darkened because of other shades added. The theory is that carmine red was the dominant colour, so that the MID is what it says, CA refers to carmine, and RED what it says, so the colour is Mid Carmine Red. The only argument against this is that carmine is a bright red, so "Hanbury Chocolate"/maroon would at best be Dark Carmine Red, or "Dacared".

@trek520rider2

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought the colour from leftover paint, used on goods wagons, was known as "smudge".

@stevec5586

2 жыл бұрын

When I heard "Midcared" in this video, with no obvious spelling mentioned, I did wonder if it was a misreading of "Mid-claret", as in the colour of a red wine, which does happen to be a good colour match. Just an idea!

At 10 minutes, that'd be a lot of water in the kettle waiting for it to boil while watching this video. Perhaps more of an urn.

I could see your videos being part of a great bbc documentary. Love ur stuff !

Incorrectly guessed ‘you are the Misha Black to my Harry Beck’

I'll be honest, I just can't see the Underground catching on, it's all just too complicated.

@SportyMabamba

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this new-fangled electricity is never going to catch on.

@General_Confusion

2 жыл бұрын

@@SportyMabamba Just look at that map, if you took all the ends and pulled them out tight you would just end up with one massive tangled knot.

@SportyMabamba

2 жыл бұрын

@@General_Confusion I quite agree. Would be far neater to have a series of straight tracks which don’t cross each other

@General_Confusion

2 жыл бұрын

@@SportyMabamba Or just have a map that's got the name of the station you want to get on at, and the station you want to get off at, and forget the rest. They could call it a ticket.

@SportyMabamba

2 жыл бұрын

@@General_Confusion a genius idea, sir!

First time that I have noticed that the grab handles in the trains are the colours of the lines on the map!

@mark314158

2 жыл бұрын

Me too - and I have been using the tube for more than half a century...

@katbryce

2 жыл бұрын

Except for the surface stock, which are all yellow, even on the S8 stock which runs exclusively on the Metropolitan line.

@tonywise198

2 жыл бұрын

@@katbryce Thanks. I was going by videos of the tube stock rather than sub-surface. The last time I actually was on the Underground was 1993. I finished working in London and have never felt the need to return. I would hate to add up the hours I spent on the Piccadilly Line over those years from Uxbridge to Holborn! I should come up sometime and sample all this "new" stock.

Cheers Jago. ☕☕ 2 cups of tea later and I am fully refreshed with regards to the line colours of the London Underground 😀😀

Well Mr H, without a shadow of doubt you've done it again. You've taken a subject which previously had not raised much excitement and rendered it captivating. Where would we be without you? Thanks, Simon T

Another great video, Jago! 👏🏾 And very informative. Somehow, I thought the colours of the Metropolitan and District lines were to do with the colours of their locomotives. Excellent info. 🙂👍🏾

Bakerloo - Brown, always reminded me of Holmes' briar pipe

Have been watching since i discovered those episodes about Thamesmead. Very impressed.