"Fire and Blood" The secret is right there in their words. We saw Daenerys do it. A raging funeral pyre (fire) and three offerings of flesh (blood) hatched three dragons. The Targaryen's probably burned criminals alive on Dragonstone and in the Pit to hatch them until the method was lost or forgotten thanks to the Dragonbane.

@rileybursey7513

2 жыл бұрын

That’s actually a genius I gotta do that for dnd

@targaryen7029

2 жыл бұрын

"The Targaryen's probably burned criminals alive on Dragonstone and in the Pit to hatch them" This is so dark, I love it.

@princessshei9171

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason Dany truly needed fire and blood was because the eggs she was given were petrified. She literally had to put life back into them and as Mirri Maz Duur taught her, only death can pay for life. Back on Dragonstone the eggs were fresh and already had life in them, Targaryens would typically place the egg in the crib of the baby they were meant to be bonded to so that they could exchange each other's strength to hatch.

@michaelromano611

2 жыл бұрын

@@princessshei9171 The Eggs Were Most Likely Already Incubated And Were Just Placed In The Cribs Rather Than Targaryens Actually Needing To Be Near An Egg For Them To Hatch And Be Incubated

@zeroequalsone7855

Жыл бұрын

So Dragon hatching and taming/riding in the SOIAF series is actually linked to a special mutation in the female X chromosome. As in, having the special X* chromosome as a boy (X*,Y) or a girl (X*,X) or (X*,X*) (Can have one or both X chromosomes mutated) means your a dragonrider and can bond with a dragon if it's willing to bond with you. Now hatching dragons is different in that you MUST have both X chromosomes be mutated, special, dragonrider X* chromosomes. So only females (and only certain ones i.e Danny) can hatch dragons (they just have to be around them) and to ride one you must have inherited one of those X* . This is why Targaryans inbread a lot. This guy did a whole series on it ---> kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpWjqKWTd9WZfLw.html

I think Nettles could maybe be a call back to how the shepherds originally tamed the dragons.

@batman-gu7pm

2 жыл бұрын

So you're saying that sheep blood is the key?

@staytuned2L337

2 жыл бұрын

@@batman-gu7pm fire n Blood, baybee! 😂 Maybe not necessarily sheeps blood, but it's really just a stab in the dark on my part. In the story Pycelle tells he does the snarky "idk how simple shepherds managed this, but 🤷🏽‍♀️" just my guess on how it played out. Grrm does historical callbacks or echos frequently to help us figure things out. If one girl got the idea to feed them sheep, I can't imagine the OG shepherds wouldn't try the same thing - especially if those buggery flying lizards kept making roast mutton out of their livelihoods 😂

@Alejojojo6

2 жыл бұрын

Nettles was a distant bastard of the Targaryen dynasty. That's how she managed to ride a dragon :)

@staytuned2L337

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alejojojo6 Agree. Absolutely not discounting her being a dragon seed, though she did also go after a completely feral one and gained its trust through sheep snack too. Thankfully these ideas dont have to be mutually exclusive 😊.

@lawrencereid2767

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one and I think you might be right

Targ's were among the smallest and least influence of the houses of Valyria, hence why they moved west; they became the biggest fish in a new pond.

@staytuned2L337

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't they already have Dragonstone as sort of like a side place before staying in Westeros after the doom?

@ceartais65

2 жыл бұрын

@@staytuned2L337 yes but I think it was worthless before that

@staytuned2L337

2 жыл бұрын

@@ceartais65 more than likely. I think that lends itself to why they might have made the move more than simply being the smallest family. Maybe.

@hitbycars

2 жыл бұрын

@@staytuned2L337 It was part of their holding, but they didn't go any further west than that, and at the time it was THE furthest west point controlled by Valyria, but it was not their "homeland" like it became after the fall, it was just another territorial holding.

@hitbycars

2 жыл бұрын

@@staytuned2L337 Yeah, makes sense. I am surprised no other families managed to get out, or already have dragons and be established somewhere else, like Volantis. Why were there no dragon masters in any of the free-cities pre-fall is beyond me, but I'm gonna guess it's just for the sake of the narrative. Realistically, with so much territory to control and cover, there should have been dragonlords elsewhere outside just Valyria.

I wish the Dragons are shown to be a little different from each other like they have different subspecies in the upcoming house of the dragon. That would be awesome.

@billychops1280

2 жыл бұрын

They are all the same species but are also all incredibly different in colour and size

@u.v.s.5583

2 жыл бұрын

Subspecies would be awful from biological standpoint. You mean, 20 individuals in total from like 8 different subspecies? Indeed? For real?

@Avora227

2 жыл бұрын

@@u.v.s.5583 Guess my wording was kinda off. But what I meant was it would be cool if the dragons were shown to be breed for different purpose like most domesticated animals.

@maYTeus

2 жыл бұрын

since the targ dragons all come from one line and they have longer lifespans than humans that's unlikely. However I'm sure in old Valeria dragons from diff houses could look diff

@Avora227

2 жыл бұрын

@@maYTeus Didn't they bring eggs from old Valeria?

Nettles is a dragonseed, you don't need to have Valyrian features to be to Valyrian. We literally see this with Jon and other Targaryens as a result of a Dornish mother like with Rhaenys.

@maYTeus

2 жыл бұрын

Jon is only a targ in the show 👀

@temmieolaoye5106

2 жыл бұрын

@@maYTeus you think D&D are smart enough to come up with such plot twist. They literally had to guess Jon's parentage to get the rights to be writers for the show adaption, even in his original storyline where GRR MARTIN was considering the storyline of the books, it's literally said the story would focus on the fight for the throne, the unknown threat looming in the North and the revelation of Jon's true parentage

@maYTeus

2 жыл бұрын

@@temmieolaoye5106 right but grrm could do anything such as not having Jon be a targ at all. Also I find it funny when people insult D&D for the producers because yaknow the tabletop game

@alexis.r.c.5804

2 жыл бұрын

@@temmieolaoye5106 D&d had Arya as the Night King’s killer, so I really wouldn’t trust them to fully respect GRRM’s plans for the series. Also, that excuse about them needing to correctly guess Jon’s parentage in order to start the show doesn’t cut it for me, the first season came out before A Dance with Dragons was published, so when they had to guess D&D had less information than we do at present, so I find it less likely that they could correctly solve the mystery.

@alexis.r.c.5804

2 жыл бұрын

@@temmieolaoye5106 Also, that original outline had things like a romance between Arya and Tyrion, Jaime Lannister taking the Iron Throne and Sansa having a kid with Joffrey, so don’t take what was written there for a fact, it is clear that GRRM has divided considerably from his original outline.

What kills me is that the other Valyrian House that came to Westeros with the Targaryens and Velaryans like Celtigar didn't try to finesse a Dragon egg had they just kept their heads down and kept one dragon they'd easily could've usurped everyone after the Dance of the Dragons

@trehubb6144

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but those weren't dragonlord families

@FrederikSeerupNielsen

2 жыл бұрын

The celtigars don't have the dragonlord blood so they wouldn't have been able to use the eggs for anything anyways. The Velaryons did have a few marriages to the Targaryens and there were quite a few velaryon dragon riders as well so they wouldn't really need to finesse an egg.

@Argos-xb8ek

2 жыл бұрын

@@trehubb6144 House Velaryan wasn't a house of Dragon Lords either just had 1-2 members marry into the Targaryen Family and they were able to get multiple dragon riders out of it. If they had tried to seduce one of the many Targaryen princes walking around I'm sure they could've had atleast one dragonseed from it.

@Alejojojo6

2 жыл бұрын

The Celtigar and Velaryons were lower houses of Valyria, etnic Valyrians, but not Dragonlords. Only 40 families in Valyria were, and the only one that survived was the Targaryens.

@a.a677

2 жыл бұрын

Only Targaryens were dragon lords in Valyria

amazing vid as always!! keep the hype up for House Of The Dragon!

The Hard carry of the community himself keeping this train going as usual !! Can't wait for HoTD for more content from you homie !

I honestly don't think they needed spells to tame dragons as nettles shows us but instead those 40 families were the first to figure it out and stopped everyone else from even trying. Over the centuries they came up with dramatic stories to reinforce that fact as to make everyone believe that they couldn't tame dragons even if they tried and with them holding a monopoly on dragon eggs it's not that hard to enforce

If theTargaryens left Valyria with five dragons, and during the "Dance of Dragons" there were hundreds of these Fire-breathing breast, Wouldn't the underlaying question be: Besides the three well-known dragons, Were there other dragons during Aegon's Conquest? What were they're names??

@jamiecoull7081

2 жыл бұрын

In the books during their descriptions of the conquest it says that Balerion is the last dragon born in Valyria. This implies that the other 4 dragons they brought with them died sometime in the 114 years between arriving at dragon stone and the conquest. The other two Rhaenys and Vinsenya's dragons then have to be hatched after arriving to dragon stone. There were only 17 ish dragons with riders and 3-4 without during the dance of dragons.

@cyberhikikomori5326

2 жыл бұрын

The only other mentioned Dragonlord survivor was Aurion. And while yes, his dragon survived too, they didn't survive long when the people rose up against them. I don't think his dragon was named too

@sleepingxbooty

Жыл бұрын

Umm. The dance of dragons was like 250 years after they left Valeria… lol. It’s called reproduction

My Guy What Legendary videos, Your story telling is really good will we get a review on HOD

And then there are the "seeds" on dragonstone. But of course we all love Nettles. This was a fun video.

I bet money this shows gonna end up showing how to tame a dragon and it'll be hated and retconned or argued over for years

Lucifer Morningstar has theory on his Channel that the Valyrians were survivors of an even older and fallen Dragon riding empire in the East that was centered on Asshai and were the original dragon tamers as well as the civilization that fought the Others in Essos.

I like to think that the way to become bonded to a dragon was that like dany walked into the fire to rebirth them into the world they were born in a similar way one man showed he was willing to bond with his dragon by burning himself in flames but it's not just that he maybe had blood in him like how the north had the blood of the first men or maybe they were demigods cause we know their gods were different and there is some evidence to suggest god do exist in the world of ice and fire.

Here is my theory regarding “Game of Thrones” and “ House of the Dragon.” Dragons were made with magic, through the God of Light, for the specific purpose of protecting the Seven Realms during the Long Winter and man from the Night King. But then, when the Targaryans used the Dragons for their own selfish reasons, to take control and hold the Iron Throne, the magic “stopped working” and the Dragons who would be of use during what would be the time known as “The Song of Ice and Fire,” started to be killed during the Civil War known as “The Dance of Fire & Blood”. And shortly thereafter, the Dragons born later never made it to maturity, and therefore were useless in the fight against Man’s true enemy North of the Wall. Notice in both series, the only magic that ever works is that of the believers of the Lord of Light; we have Jon Snow’s resurrection, Beric Dondarrion’s muliple resurrections, the shadow demon that killed Renly Baratheon, the magic Arya is taught to become a Faceless Man and so forth. No one who believes in The Seven or The Old Gods uses magic that works. So then, only when all the Dragons have died off, and a Targaryan who was born who was worthy of the Iron Throne, who could lead Man in a war against the Wights and the Night King, three dragons were born. The Iron Throne was never to be Danearys Targaryan’s, from the very beginning, Jon Snow was supposed to be king of the seven kingdoms and destroy the Night King and the Army of the Dead, or at least lead Man in doing so. My theory is also why the Greens don’t win the Dance of Dragons. King Vicerys never tells the purpose of Targaryans sitting on the Iron Throne to Alicent of any of their sons: he only passes on that knowledge to his heir, Rhaenyra Targaryen. I think part of the reason the Dragons shrink and die off after the Dance with Dragons is because she doesn’t pass on that knowledge and mission to her heir. I also think that is why the Targaryen’s and Valeryon’s first home was destroyed in the “Doom of Valyria.” Man forgot and stopped following their one true God, the Lord of Light, and started following “fake gods,” and that angered the Lord of Light. He destroyed Valyria by fire from the volcanos that the Valyrian Freehold were built on and around. But before doing so, the Lord of Light came to Daenys Targaryen in a powerful prophetic dream, showing the destruction of Valyria by fire, which she passed to her father, Aenar, who then moved the entire family, who were still followers of the Lord of Light, to Dragonstone with their five Dragons. Daenys would then give birth to Aegon, whose father was also a son of Aenar, the first Targaryen born in Westeros, who is also the the grandfather of the grandfather to Aegon I Targaryen (Aegon the Conqueror), who along with his two dragon rider sister wives, Visenya and Rhaenys, would conquer and then unite the Seven Kingdoms, becoming the First King of Westeros. Aegon I fought to unite Westeros, because just like his grandfather’s grandmother saw the end of Valyria, Aegon I saw the end of the world of man through a prophetic dream, a dream which he called “A Song of Ice and Fire.” What builds credibility to my theory about the Lord of Light and the Dragons being made to fight against the Army of the Dead during the Long Winter, is because we know the ending already! We know because of Daenys and the Doom of Valyria that Targaryen prophecies come true. We know that a Targaryen returns to Westeros with three dragons who are critical in their fight against the White Walkers. We also know that another Targaryen (named Aegon [Jon Snow]) and his “sister,” Arya does the saving. And what happens when the war against the dead is over? The Targaryen who brought back dragons is immediately killed by another Targaryen because, she wants to use the remaining dragon for another purpose outside of what it was brought back by the Lord of Light for.

Segue : Imagine if the 'original strength' of Valyrian magic allowed higher freeholders and dragonlord families to not just tame one bonded dragon to them but also command all other dragons around them. I think I saw an indie animation that referenced this.

Blood magic, other spells, special cross species breeding, selective breeding ,and traditional animal breaking methods I think is just about everything. Maybe early just one of those methods were used but over time a combination would be more effective. In my opinion.

Easy how they became dragonlords. They captured a charizard just without pokey balls. They used chains and tamed the charizard then also fed them rare candies.

I think she connected with that particular dragon because they felt such darkness in each other whilst being so beautiful on the outside.

Template : Dr. Gonlords Me: "Oh boy, were they some kind of physicists before the meisters?"

Dam, thought this was a video about Dr.Gonlords

Thanks

So Dragon hatching and taming/riding in the SOIAF series is actually linked to a special mutation in the female X chromosome. As in, having the special X* chromosome as a boy (X*,Y) or a girl (X*,X) or (X*,X*) (Can have one or both X chromosomes mutated) means your a dragonrider and can bond with a dragon if it's willing to bond with you. Now hatching dragons is different in that you MUST have both X chromosomes be mutated, special, dragonrider X* chromosomes (X*,X*). So only females (and only certain ones i.e Danny) can hatch dragons (they just have to be around them) and to ride one you must have inherited one of those X* . This is why Targaryans inbread a lot. This guy did a whole series on it ---> kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpWjqKWTd9WZfLw.html

the powers of the ELVEN Blood i would say

I dont think the lava killed the dragons I think it was the lack of oxygen from the smoke which is also poisonous since magic involved there other variable

Do you really believe Drogon actually bended under the whip, when he didnt feel bigger impacts?

I read the thumbnail as Dr Gonlords.

Wonder how many times it took him to say "in the next book" with a straight face.

@whycreate

2 жыл бұрын

HA

@cjd5235

Жыл бұрын

It makes me cringe every time. :/

How i think the Targs control dragon Is because they use magic back in old valria the 40 dragon lord family's like the targeryen the did somthing to them self to magical bond with dragon they bred with them and use magic ect so now the magic to bound with them is just genetically inside of them

Dr. Gonlords …. Anyone? Just me? I’ll show myself out.

the thumbnail says Dr. Gonlords

40 dragon lord families and yet yet they didn't some spare dragons outside of the freehold

I think it's some kind of warging,, that's in the blood.

Read the thumbnail as ‘Dr. Gonlords’.

I wonder if dragons like ice cream?

Read the title as Dr.Gonlords

Dr. Gonlords

Ahh yes. The Dr Gonlords

wait so are the targaryens descendants of those first shepherds that learned to tame the dragons?

So if Targaryens can only bond to one dragon does that mean since Rhaegal died Jon couldn’t bond with another dragon? 🤔 like imagine if there were more still dragons alive besides Drogon

WC!!!

Praise Garth Greenhand

When is any video (not just on this channel) going to acknowledge that the dragons had saddles in the books and the riders were chained to the saddles, they weren't ridden bareback as per the show/contrary to any common sense. This detail is small but important, and will become more so when it comes to the Dance of Dragons as it was the determining factor in several fight/surviving (or not) crashes.

@PhenomResurrections08

2 жыл бұрын

How does the viewer or reader knowing there's a saddle hurt their enjoyment of the story any more than if it's not even mentioned? And if you say "it's more realistic, and explains why they don't fall", bear in mind the audience has already accepted zombies, magic and dragons just to name a few, so I doubt they're gonna fuss over a saddle on a dragon

@MKPSG12

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhenomResurrections08 There's till a version of physics in the world of Plantos whether it also has dragons and magic or not. There's suspension of reality for a force we don't know about (magic and for animals that we haven't discovered/don't live on Earth (dragons), and there's basic bitch stuff like physics that is more important than everything else. In the Dance of Dragons there are several instances where being fastened into a saddle or not either saved or killed the dragon rider in the books. If they want to say there's a magic spell that holds them on the dragon fine, or that Targaryens have extra sticky crotches then fair enough but just pretending that someone could hold onto a couple of backward facing spikes and with their thighs is where i've, got to draw the line! lol

@PhenomResurrections08

2 жыл бұрын

@@MKPSG12 I mean, I'm already pretending magic exists man, among other things. I just think that if we try to incorporate physics (a real thing), no matter how minimal; will always lead to being overly critical about an art form who's original intention was to be more fantastical than real. Like it or not, the more you lean into magic, the further you have to separate yourself from the rules of the real world. Otherwise the reader/viewer will just be taken out of the story. Oh, and btw in no world, is physics considered "basic bitch" stuff. 🤣🤣 that subject is hard af.

6:40

2:58 Pale skin and purple eyes aren't Valyrian. Seems it's white hair that makes you Valyrian

Did this guy just say that aegon didn't conquer with fear and that the westeros targaryens didn't care much about pure blood but more about successfull political marriages and incest was out of love or the targaryen prophecy? Or did i understand this wrong? Because the vocalization and the sound quality was (at least for me) off sometimes during the video and those things stood out for me because that's the opposite of what we've seen from the targaryen house so i might be either deaf or stupid because that's what i understood from some reason 😂

Can we get the full story about the girl that tamed the dragon by feeding it?

How to train your dragons live action

Father

Why was Dany able to bond with and ride 3 dragons 🧍unless she bonded with 3 and could only ride Drogon? Am I missing something?

@saffronhawkes2587

Жыл бұрын

She could only ride drogon, the bonding with the other dragons was likely due to them seeing her as their mother

@faemewmi

Жыл бұрын

@@saffronhawkes2587 oh, I honestly couldn't recall. if she tried riding them, would they be too offended and burn her or just shake her off since they have a closer bond? or we just have no way to know as she hasn't attempted...

@saffronhawkes2587

Жыл бұрын

@@faemewmi I don't think she ever attempted, but in the fire and blood book one of the targaryans tries to ride a dragon that is bonded to another and the dragon shakes him off mid flight. I think the bond between rider and dragon is meant to be more magical, so while the other dragon see her a mother it might not be enough to actually be able to ride them

@sweetspicy7880

Жыл бұрын

Dany locked rest 2 dragon ones and they both were mad at her but never burned her . Danny’s dragons never knew any other Targerians expect her and were bonded by love and care as a mother . Dragon was Danny’s rider and connect

I think the dragon horn is going to hurt both dragon and Daenerys in the way pain inflection spell in the vampire diaries more specifically work like the Gilbert device

I brought nettle’s up, when those weirdos, was making a big deal that the sea snake Corlys Velaryon was cast a black man. Like folks didn’t bone, it’s a fantasy story, all you have to imagine is his descendants smashing a black or light skinned Spanish type or whatever. It’s not real, if nettles is a Targaryen or half and don’t have the same skin color etc. so stop the sea snake at least had white silver hair.. 😂

Maybe the slaves that mined the precious ores of the Fourteen Flames caused a volcanic eruption by dumping a shit ton of wildfire or other volatile explosive materials.

Make "Scenes too Disgusting for Game of Thrones".

GEORGE RR MARTIN SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIS SERIES: (DRAGONS & INCEST)!!

They could have just married their cousins not their siblings duh lol

Been watching your videos the last couple days. This is the only video you totally got wrong. Almost everything u said in this video is 100% wrong.

First

Why do you always sound as if your hiding in your closet recording these videos ?

@thebystander1636

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know how hard it is to get good clean audio? It isn't as easy as you think. He probably doesn't have an expensive setup but I like his voice. He's always calm and collected, unlike the idiot KZreadrs who scream sMaSh dA lIkE buTtOn SuB aNd sHaRe FAM!