For anyone wondering. the transcript is an almost exact copy of an article published in Popular Mechanics in Oct 23rd, 2017 entitled "How the Soviet Union Snooped Waters for Enemy Subs-Without Sonar."

@andreasluber9752

21 күн бұрын

This video feels like an AI clubbed some readily available sub-related videos into a single 8 minutes film and a text-to-speech bot is doing the voice over.

@Klaus293

21 күн бұрын

Thanks. It’s good to call out such plagiarism. 👍

@hillbilly4895

20 күн бұрын

@@Klaus293 the world wide interweb be like...

@jamesharrison2570

19 күн бұрын

@@Klaus293 Did Biden steal this article also

@josepablolunasanchez1283

8 күн бұрын

I do not have that magazine, so this video works for me.

The US has a habit of underestimating others,

Ex qualified sub sailor here, 1970 - 1976. Don't ever underestimate your adversary and his capabilities. Remember, you don't know what you don't know and that can get you killed.

@IIIw2

18 күн бұрын

It means simply you are unaware of things that may be out there, and you have not a clue that they may be out there. It is a colloquialism to slam a person for not taking something into account before they shoot off their mouth or jump into a situation they are not prepared to deal with.May 14, 2019

And another thing…… No one uses active sonar except for certain very specific circumstances. Why? Because when you fire that thing up everyone knows where you are! Now…. Mark 48 torpedos are wire-guided, use a passive sonar and only swap to active sonar when they have a target lock. When that happens, it's probably too late for ya. Now…. All that said, the only underwater kill ever made on another submarine by another submarine was in WWII. The HMS Venturer sank the U-864. Using passive sonar, skill and a whole lot of luck. She fired 4 dumb torpedoes and one fortunately hit. Blind luck.

Both Soviets and the US had clever systems to follow were the enemys submarines were at The Us got SOSUS witch was passive sonar placed at different places at sea.

I believe they were actually using natural sounds as an active radar signal while remaining passive themselves. They simply add multiple microphones to the outside and measure and triangulate the delays as natural sounds bounce off other things in the water. I believe these days it's so advanced It's basically like a fish-finder screen the operators look at they can see in real time everything around them.

@chrisstrawn4108

18 күн бұрын

The same thing can be done with broadcast radio waves and other commercial microwave generators like radio stations in a passive form of radar.

Read "The Taking of K-129" the US Navy had sonar stations scattered across the Pacific Ocean in the 1960s that allowed them to figure out exactly where the K-129 sunk. There are probably dozens of passive and active systems to locate subs in the oceans around the world.

Dammit sneaky russians with shovels

A US sub once followed a Russian sub from the time it left it's port until it returned to port 6 weeks later withour the Russians knowledge. 😅

@princeo15

16 күн бұрын

And that US sub was followed by another Russian sub 😂

@MrVak.76

3 күн бұрын

The us sub was probably followed by another Russian sub, the west only discovered after the cold war that user had 3 times more subs than they estimated

Seals whiskers, too, can detect tiny waves generated by fish swimming

@rogerphelps9939

23 күн бұрын

Very shortt range.

@user-xq8mk5qu8n

20 күн бұрын

Short range.

The U.S. knows where Russia s subs are and I am sure Russia knows where ours are.

@rogerphelps9939

23 күн бұрын

Noy really. The Russians think they are not being tailed when they actually are.

@Ferndalien

22 күн бұрын

Well, the US used to, until they stopped funding most of the SOSUS system and turned the remainder over to oceanographic researchers, who have learned some interesting stuff about oceans and ocean life.

@MaciusSzwed

21 күн бұрын

@@Ferndalien They have several other means of detecting subs anywhere on this planet.

@user-xq8mk5qu8n

20 күн бұрын

SOSUS is vulnerable to cable cutting. It would have been lost the first week of an ASW war. The Americans had to find a more sustainable replacement. It took a long time. What replaced it "might" not be as zonally efficient, but it is far more survivable. It has the advantages of mobility and quick repair. @@Ferndalien

@raybod1775

20 күн бұрын

Likely subs can be tracked from satellites.

Very interesting. Thank You.

The closed captioning being embedded into the video is terrible.

This takes on a whole new dimension when you add it to unmanned nuclear underwater drones ,you can just assign 2 wake homing nuclear drones to follow each of your enemy's subs.

*Nuke **_sniffer_* . Interesting video - fascinating topic, engaging script and pacing, fitting illustration and ambience. Solely the text to speech engine could be upgraded to a premium level or replaced by a voice actor (if exposure is to be avoided).

If the Soviets wanted to find a NATO submarine all they had to do was look over their shoulder. Thats not a joke. Look up the Walker spy ring. He told them not a single Soviet submarine left port without a NATO sub trailing it. To prove him wrong and show how great they were the Soviets had random submarines abruptly do a 180 and ping their active sonar. Every. Single. One. Found a NATO sub traing them. This led to the cancellation of the Victor 2 class which emphasized speed and depth and the switch to the Victor 3 which started to work on silence and sensors as per the western way. For that reason the V3s are sometimes called "the Walker class". This is the origin of the "crazy Ivan" made famous in Hunt for Red October. As for Soviet/Russian non accustic sensors, they have been an epic flop. Being Russia tho they have continued to run with it. I suspect embezzlement.

@thomasbarry5417

13 күн бұрын

The Soviets did have success using the non-acoustic sensors. Personal experience.

was fully described by "Q" about 14 minutes into the 007 film "The Spy Who Loved Me" in 1977 :-)

I would not be surprised if the US subs have disposable passive drone sonar devices to sit around and wait for someone to come in their range. Once detected, it will generate false fish or whale noise to alert US subs.

Clever? Yes. But let’s remember this system requires you get so close to your opponent that you can sense the wake in most situations. Obviously they would rely on other sensors like sonar (however inferior) to fine-tune the location .. but in the end you’re at a huge disadvantage when you’re relying only on maneuvering “downwind” of them. It’s like you’re nearly blind to what you’re doing until you’re so close that it’s time to shoot.

USS Simone Bulivar?? I don’t even have to use Google to know that the US didn’t have a submarine with that name

@benshones6588

23 күн бұрын

It existed launched Aug 22 1964

@johnmoniz2478

23 күн бұрын

@@benshones6588, I stand corrected, thanks 😊

@ViceCoin

18 күн бұрын

Simon Bolivar

@thomasbarry5417

13 күн бұрын

It was actually the Benjamin Franklin that was followed out of Kings Bay, GA

I would assume the wake size and persistence is dependent on the size of teh vessel, speed, and to a smaller degree, its hydrodynamic shape. How close do you have to be to detect the wake of a boomer traveling at 5 knots?

@cocodog85

28 күн бұрын

the commies were doing so from space, as early as the 1980s. think about it. an 18K ton sub travelling at 12 mph is pushing 18,000 tons of water aside. the water has only one way to go...up. and it's a big wake. the deeper one goes the more spread out the wake, but it can't be hidden. this is one of the reasons the commies liked to just float in an underwater ocean current and not move, but let the current move the boat. as no motors are pushing the boat it is much quieter as well. the commie missiles have the range to get to the continental USA from close to their shores which are under cover of ASW. ours don't so we have to drive over to get closer and thus our boats are more detectable.

Military is complex and dangerous, every war tool brought up for function, a solution has been achieved before deployment, ignorance of soldiers is reason we find ourselves at war with harsh casualties and numerous deaths.

@ianlewis6717

18 күн бұрын

What about ICBMs then 🤥

So what? This is well known physics. The PROBLEM is generating a vector solution for weapon employment, or even knowing what the underwater weather does to those gimmicks, or where the other guy exactly is as a ranging solution. That is why the Russians lost the bump and scrape war, when our boats tagged theirs. They were still blind underwater. We were not.

@shaun469

24 күн бұрын

Ooooooo.

@ReaperRandom

24 күн бұрын

Oʻoooooooo

@alexmcaruthur6966

21 күн бұрын

Ooooooooo

I heard Soviets had noisy garbage disposals on their subs which were easy to detect.

I would venture a guess that the Soviets basically never knew where US boats were, unless they happened to run into them by mistake!!

@envitech02

21 күн бұрын

They're smarter than you think.

@icemike1

21 күн бұрын

Hubris

@envitech02

21 күн бұрын

@@patallen5095 first to send satellite and human to space, first to land probe on Venus, first to fly the "Concordski", first to invent the perfect "wooden eagle" spy microphone, biggest sub "Typhoon" class, biggest cargo aircraft in the world and so much more.

@fionajack9160

21 күн бұрын

@@envitech02 so they say

@Radbot776

21 күн бұрын

Common it’s pretty easy to watch for us subs all you have to do is monitor ports in main USA and Russia just has a few specific locations to worry about and mainly in the Baltic and north The Black Sea is really easy to track for Russia or anyone Russia also has an advantage in the east by Japan and in the Bering sea

There was a 007 movie where the Russians were tracking submarines by their wakes..... The spy who loved me....

Where there is a will, there is a way ... waste heat signatures seems obvious, why 45 years?

kirov reporting. nice secret tech

its a smell sensor lmao

So much for the "Russkies had no idea where we were" crowd! 😂

Sounds like an updated Sniffer.

Si el ego no te gana,es bueno ser subestimado.

Psychic Jeanne Dixon said that one of the US nuclear boats lost in the late 1960's had left a "trail of ions" that could be tracked. I remember reading this in the newspaper back then.

@rogerphelps9939

23 күн бұрын

That was complete bollocks.

@comment8767

22 күн бұрын

@@rogerphelps9939 I thought it was too, but this video suggests otherwise.

they smelled the water...

Clever, LOL. Hmm, just like how the IRST on Russian fighters can track pinpricks of heat from F-22 exhaust to get an approximation of where it is.

@1Barsamian

Ай бұрын

I don’t believe they’re capable of that

@TheMilpitasguy

Ай бұрын

@@1Barsamian They open fire, they miss. Only an approximation, not an exact bearing.

@Wannes_

22 күн бұрын

@@1Barsamian It's been tried with Su-27s of now friendly nations ... The US also has had access to its own MiGs and Sukhois for decades, they even have a Su-27 in the USAF Museum in Dayton OH

AI narration doesn’t promote credibility

So much if this channel is probably stuff from lots of various sources and this isn’t news just a channel to give you old stuff and it’s not new

Human waste trail is everywhere. Just sniff it out.

US submarines rarely use active sonar so this entire video is a lie.

First when russia wants to find its subs it calls the white house!!! Second you and I will never know what subs use so forget!

Do I get it right: Russians struggled to make an undersea microphone, so they resorted to a way more sophisticated method of detection? US complacency on full display

The Victor tracked the Bolivar with active sonar which was the preferred method for them at the time. The USSR and later Russia have greatly improved their sonar equipment so this is no longer the case. SOKS is a very poor substitute standard....especially since US nuc boats do not leave radioactive trails.

@ianlewis6717

18 күн бұрын

They must do as the radiation is not completely shielded. The question is, is it detectable?

@shawn97006

17 күн бұрын

@@ianlewis6717 US boats check themselves for this and will not leave port if leaks are found. Period. The only leaks associated with US boats outside of the hull involve transfers of reactor water to ion beds on tenders.

@ianlewis6717

14 күн бұрын

@@shawn97006 I was referring to the radio nuclides that are formed when normally stable elements in the water surrounding the submarine are irradiated by the small proportion of radiation that penetrates the reactor shielding and hull.

@thomasbarry5417

13 күн бұрын

The Russians were tracking Hydrogen ions in the wakes from constant discharge of the leftover hydrogen from the O2 generation.

They didn’t

The bluster of those who think they are invincible? Whoops?

Boll - ih- var

Not pronounced as Bo-LEEV R.

No one on either side was stupid

@ianlewis6717

18 күн бұрын

No one? That would be stupid to say that. Perhaps you mean not everyone 😉

The Mouse Roar

USS what?

"sez"

Russian trolls saying they have the best subs 🤡🇷🇺 😂

The Soviets had wake homing torpedoes since 1965. Their wake detection and homing technologies were well developed.

So much for all the bluster we hear (mostly from American & UK sources) about how superior nuclear submarines are over conventional ones. Radionuclides? Heat signature?

@matthewshannon6946

22 күн бұрын

Quiet.....

Till now they made me believe that only US subs could detect and follow Russian subs and not vice versa.

H I Sutton

Only guessing

Russian ,this narrator claimed that the russians were primitive and yet US tech are advance amd yet defeated by the russians tech.So whos the real primitive?😂😂

@rogerphelps9939

23 күн бұрын

What are you on about? NATO tech is far superior.