Battletech is older than 40k. Battletech is contemporary to Warhammer Fantasy, with both franchises launching within a year of each other. 40k released in 1987, Battletech released in 1984.

@MrHocotateFreight

Ай бұрын

im gonna nitpick so sorry but not sorry "within a year of eachother" 1987-1984=3 years seperation, not one.

@ASNS117Zero

Ай бұрын

@@MrHocotateFreight ... Carefully re-read what I wrote. You misread it.

@bruced648

Ай бұрын

​. to list this correctly Warhammer fantasy rpg 1983 Warhammer fantasy battles 1984 Battledroids 1984 (1st ed) battletech 1985 (2nd ed) Warhammer 40k 1987

@Heatx79

Ай бұрын

@@bruced648if you’re including Fantasy shouldn’t D&D dates be in the list?

@bruced648

Ай бұрын

@Heatx79 I was only listing FASA and GW. if we wanted to include D&D, then I would have 1976 as the first appearance of the white books for Dungeons and Dragons.

"Legal battles" Fuck harmony gold.

@jrs3739

Ай бұрын

With a white hot poker.

@JDLambright

Ай бұрын

They didn't even own the rights to most of the mecha designs that they sued FASA over. They licensed them from a Japanese company, then lied and claimed that they owned them. Screw these guys big time!

@klortikterra4423

Ай бұрын

well PGI's legal team was seemingly the key, so HOPEFULLY H.G pisses off for good.

@Evinthal84

Ай бұрын

@@klortikterra4423 They have, the case against PGI and CGL was dismissed WITH PREJUDICE. "In the legal area, a case that gets dismissed with prejudice means it has been permanently dismissed. No matter the circumstances, if a case is dismissed with prejudice, it cannot be brought back to court. The case is done." Harmony Gold got fucked and cannot bring the suit back up in court again.

@ASNS117Zero

Ай бұрын

Indeed. Fuck Harmony Gold. I hope they go bankrupt.

MW5M is a 6/10 maybe a 7 if genorous, but modded it sky rockets to a 8.5 or a 9. The modding community worked magic on the game. Love playing it almost every week.

@NightmareBlade10

Ай бұрын

Exactly this. The base game is pretty mediocre, but it's really the only modern game where you can legitimately drive mechs that feel like walking tanks. There's always gonna be a place for the hyper fluid and mobile gundams and armored cores, but in my opinion this has so much more weight and substance to it.

@jumpinghunter9152

Ай бұрын

I'd even say that it can get bumped up to 7 or 7,5 by default *just* because it is so mod-friendly. In the age of strict legal boundaries, Nintendo shutting down GMod addons, games sometimes not even being consistently owned by the player who bought them, MW5:M allows for so much modding freedom, and being an unreal engine game helps it A LOT. Even if the main game is very basic, the modding potential allows it to jump way over it's head if complemented with good mods. Same thing was with HBS BattleTech, it was pretty basic on it's own, but being an easily modded game it spawned RogueTech, BTA and BTE and an entirr modding community around them, all of these mods being ad much as 10 times bigger than original game in weight and feature-quantity. Modding support is the key for success, no matter what game you are talking about.

@SEVENTHSIGHN

Ай бұрын

@@jumpinghunter9152 excellent take! 100% agree the fact there is a solid base game and it's so mod friendly helps alot. I absolutely love the mods for this game YAMAL, Vonbiomes, pilot overhaul etc can't see my self playing without them and the modding community is so passionate and dedicated to the game. The Devs are lucky to have such a community. I'm currently playing Jagged alliance 3, excellent game but wish they had a modding community like MW5M. The Devs for that game even went out of their way to make hours long modding tutorial videos for the game to encourage the community. But besides a hand full of truly amazing mods there ain't much there at the moment. So yeah the MW5M Devs are so lucky to have an excellent modding community like this.

@BrianBors

18 күн бұрын

To be fair, with all the DLC and updates the base game itself scores higher than a 6 for me to be sure. But yeah. The modding really elevates it.

@ZackaryMusgrove

14 күн бұрын

What mods would you say bring it up to that level?

MechWarrior 5 with about 75 mods. Chefs kiss, ultimate war sandbox game.

@colbyboucher6391

Ай бұрын

Personally I can't play without MercTech. All the sim elements like canon-style computerized targeting, internal components for weapons, gimbals being affected if you're above cruising speed (basically emulating accuracy penalties in TT), the JJ rework, autocanon rating actually just being damge ratings (a 200mm AC/20 might be single-fire while a 140mm is actually a burst-fire weapon dealing 20 damage total, which is how it canonically works), functional leg-mounted and rear-firing weapons, simulated deflection and ammo explosions, etc.

@conchoona

16 күн бұрын

Would you mind detailing some of the mods you would recommend please? Thanks!

@TheIcarusFalls

14 күн бұрын

@@conchoona The biggest ones I would recommend are YAML (Yet Another Mechlab) and many of the "Yet Another" mods like Yet Another Weapon, Yet Another Clan Mech, Yet Another Equipment Collection, etc. These not only add tons of new mechs, weapons and equipment to the game, but it completely opens up the mechlab and allows you to build a mech any way you want and it also gives mechs quirks. For example, an Urbanmech might have a quirk that reduces the cooldown and increases the velocity of all autocannon weapons and a Locust might have a quirk that makes it harder for enemies to hit it. There are also many mods that improve QoL and/or immersion like Advanced Career Start (pick the year you start in and how much funds you have, etc.), WarFX (better explosions and hit effects), Colorized Heatgauge, Pilot Overhaul, Starmap Mouse Over, Vonbiomes (so the maps looks better and don't get too repetitive), TTrulez AI is also a must or your lancemates tend to donate their mechs to enemies as free salvage.

@faequeenapril6921

3 күн бұрын

Its so good, I also play with a hotas, and it really brings the mechs alive along with the fantasy of being a mech pilot.

I think one thing that helps Battletech's resurgence is Mechwarrior. The look is there. It's amazing. While the 80s and the 90s had some derpy models, the modern day mechs look chunky and brutal. This update to their asthetic helped, and I think mechwarrior had a hand in this.

@jrs3739

Ай бұрын

While the derpiness has always been part of the charme and I like a lot of the old metal Ral Partha minis, I have to agree: The new Mech miniature designs take a lot of inspo from MW:O and it is an awesome look. Be interesting to see how that goes together with some of the more faction-specific aesthetics (thinking Hatamoto-Chi and Yu Huang for instance).

@torifin755

Ай бұрын

@@jrs3739 the Hatamoto-Chi is still the best type of Charger in my opinion *and the only GOOD thing kurita has ever given us. fuck Kurita*

@TricksterPoi

22 күн бұрын

there was the one where we command a lance, not same as Mechwarrior but it sorta plays what Battletech is.

MechWarrior Online provided an in-the-cockpit experience that previous MW games lacked. MW4 had dabbled in multiplayer, but MWO had more of everything. The team arena playstyle definitely stifles the feeling of it being a "war game", but it reminded me of the quick tabletop BattleTech games I played back in the day.

@SpielkindFR

Ай бұрын

The way I see it, MWO was always a Solaris 7 game.

@Bruno-cb5gk

28 күн бұрын

it's still getting content updates and has very reasonable monetisation for a F2P game

@goldenglazed3767

28 күн бұрын

​@Bruno-cb5gk easily one of the most underrated free to play multiplayer games of all time, I myself have over 3k hours in it.

@lsq7833

25 күн бұрын

In terms of in-the-cockpit experience, MW3 was really up there so I don't agree with that statement.

I'm surprised no mention of the KZread creators (BBL, CR, MF etc.) providing great lore videos. All we need now is a new MechCommander game!

@TheGamerUnknown

Ай бұрын

Modders are still keeping MechCommander 1 alive with new campaigns. It's been pretty impressive what they've come up with. Sadly MC2 is a technical mess that refuses to run properly.

@xRaalx

Ай бұрын

I would all of the warcrimes (online), for a new mech commander

@JDLambright

Ай бұрын

@@xRaalx It's not a war crime if there are no witnesses, or your targets are Capellans.

@IamHattman

Ай бұрын

@@xRaalx MW5: Clans looks to have a RTS mode you can shift in and out of from the trailers that came out a little while ago.

@Cerxen

16 күн бұрын

Never played me h commander but I play a lot of HBS Battletech 2018 with the RogueTech mod update. If you haven't, I'd recommend giving it a shot or at least watching someone play it. It is very "megamek/TT Battletech with more."

That 20 year gap between 4 and 5 was filled with Living Legends, MekTek's work on MW4, the MW3 Community's modding work, the Wolves remake of Mech Assault. Things were there that the MW Community did. Proud of their work outside Microsoft, HBS, and PGI.

@Bloodname_Gaming

18 күн бұрын

Came for the game, stayed for the community. Seyla!

@adriankoch964

22 сағат бұрын

Also props to MS that they made Mech Commander 2 freeware years ago.

Its also nice to note that Mechwarrior Online is still receiving updates to this day. And in fact in the past year has had many new mechs/ variants added to the game

@Richy0326

Ай бұрын

You can't sneak past me, Sneaky Snek! I see you there! :D

@osiris4457

Ай бұрын

And the plethora of issues and oftentimes pretty shady PGI business methods should also be mentioned in the same breath.

@the_sneaky_snek

Ай бұрын

@@LakenAnderson Balance is probably at its best now, there are viable mechs and build archetypes for almost every weapon type.

@the_sneaky_snek

Ай бұрын

@@LakenAnderson those do feel more like player behavior quirks than game design. Won't deny Nascar still happens tho, still fairly easy to stop it with semi coordinates groups or just pug warngaling (even have a few examples on my channel). In the past year they've added quite a lot of new mechs and many new weapons, so the meta has been getting mixed up quite a bit.

@baronprocrastination1722

Ай бұрын

As far as I can tell, they never really did much with the gameplay loop. It's always a team deathmatch even if there's a side-objective called 'Conquest'. Update the game with new goodies all they want, but they're not really good at making games where the gameplay is pressing W and pressing m1 at the reds.

You did fail to mention what happened with Harebrained Scheme's *Battletech* (2018) though. Sadly, despite how successful the game was, they fell apart. They sold to Paradox, who ended up being unhappy with how the DLC sold despite all of its other success, and essentially shuttered HBS. Now it's just a shell and there likely won't ever be a BattleTech sequel. :(

@Fang.1

Ай бұрын

HBS also lost access to the IP so they can't make a sequel or updates or anything. It is still in the hand of Paradox. Thankfully modders (as usual) saved the day. BTA 3062 is amazing and my favorite mod for the game.

@ssjjshawn

Ай бұрын

Battletech 2018 was a unique game, and only happened because Jordan Weisman was able to charm Mircosoft into basically giving him a license for free, since no one expected how popular it would be Then it turned out extremely popular, and Mircosoft realised it missed out on money, so when they appoarched again, Mircosoft asked for a lot more to use the license, not just the standard fee but also extra on top to make up for their perceived losses. HBS couldnt afford it, so they couldnt make another Battletech game. Then Paradox pumped and dumped them

@user-bm2tf7cd8u

Ай бұрын

Well, i might shine a bit of hope on that one - since Lamplighter's League, their latest game, went so poorly, Paradox cut Harebrained Schemes loose. They are rather revitalized now, working on something new and with folks returning to studio, including the game director for Batthetech and Dragonfall who left in 2019. They won't be making another Battletech or Shadowrun game, sadly, since IP is in Paradox\Microsoft hands. But we might still see something wonderful from the people who made aforementioned games. Fingers crossed, maybe we will even see them working one these IPs again, one day.

@Mecha_Hitler

Ай бұрын

battletech 2018 was a shitty buggy mess lol. I'm sure there will be another battletech and I'll be really happy it's not being made by the people that made 2018.

@TheGamerUnknown

Ай бұрын

@@Mecha_Hitler Wow, really living up to that username, huh?

I only just got in to Battletech back in January. I was itching for a wargame but didn't want to take out a mortgage in order to get in to 40K. Once I discovered the lore it was all over.

@beojack4592

Ай бұрын

I have long wanted to get into battletech, I have some of the starter stuff, but everyone at local game shops just play warhammer. so much warhammer.

@chernobylwendigo3994

Ай бұрын

@beojack4592 Same here, but I am slowly turning people on to BattleTech, so hopefully it won't be that way forever.

@jrs3739

Ай бұрын

@@chernobylwendigo3994 I mean, having to paint only 4 normal-sized minis for a decent game should be a really good selling point :)

@SirLANsalot

Ай бұрын

I got out of 40k during 8th edition and sold all my armies and went into 3d printing and back to doing model railroading. Now I have several printers and can easily print my own models to return to 40k, 40,000% cheaper LOL. Though I do miss some of the old pewter models that I had.

@stonewall286

Ай бұрын

Welcome Mech Bro

I'm just going to throw out there is a piece of MW lore that gets over shadowed or isn't well known and that's Mechwarrior Living Legends. In that 20 year gap for offically for profit licensed MW games, that mod team pulled off magic to show what a combined arms Mechwarrior could have been in the Crytek engine.

@Mecha_Hitler

Ай бұрын

Eh. The "devs" of mwll are petty children and have not actually done much for the game since the killing of the original team by pg. They've really just butchered mechanics and kicked people out of the mod team they didn't like. But yeah if you want drama and a game that's being cannibalized by the "dev" team play mwll.

Battletech brought me back to a franchise I hadn't touched since Mech Commander. Good stuff.

A thing I love and will never stop loving about BT as a setting: some units are just canonical garbage. They are there to be a liability, a weakness to be exploited, a joke, or something you're just going to have to deal with using. The lore acknowledges these flaws, frequently pointing out that the machines themselves were made by graft, not genuinely good decisionmaking and engineers that were paid well enough to care. It's not to say they can't be made into useful things, you just might have to think laterally, and a little bit like Dr. Frankenstein. Y'know, the same sorta thinking that leads people to put Arrow-IV tubes on an Urbie. Not to say an Urbie's a bad machine, though, I love the little guys.

@aegisghost

19 күн бұрын

People often write off the Charger as a liability, until their uber-stronk 400PV Jade Falcon Assault Star comes face to face with 3 Comstar Level IIs of Charger 1A1s with vehicle support. The peak of the slaughter on that table happened when 5 Chargers charged through friendly smoke cover and bullied a fresh Turkina to death in one turn.

@peregrinemiles7936

12 күн бұрын

It’s also nice that they allow things to be functionally obsolete, Without just discontinuing them from the franchise. Like if you want to run it, good on you, your mileage will vary. But you aren’t unnaturally forced to keep investing in the newest stuff, you will probably WANT to, but for the same reasons you would as an actual commander, not a customer.

As an avid MWO player....the game has gotten so much better on so many levels. Fresh influx of cash and new mechs with weapons along with the legendary mech packages have raised the play level of the game to new heights. I have all the DLC for Mechwarrior5 and I am looking forward to Mechwarrior5 Clans...a whole new game. And then Mechwarrior6/Mechwarrior online II Something something....can't wait.

Grew up on FASA classics like Shadowrun and Battletech. I thought both were long dead, and both have suddenly found new footings - makes me smile. Shout out to Ironwind for casting classic metal figures, battletech only feels right with the weight. 😎

Hawken was awesome. Too bad someone won’t copy their homework and make a copy but more in depth. Armor gets shot off revealing vitals or joints, you get it? You shoot the plates off, shoot the leg, leg goes dead, mech now a leg down. Interactive and engaging

I started playing BattleTech Second Edition tabletop back in 1988. The first BattleTech novels I read were the Warrior Trilogy by Michael A. Stackpole. I love BattleTech, and it has been my favorite Science Fiction IP since I was a kid. Now, in my 40s, I'm so happy that BattleTech and MechWarrior are reaching new fans and the franchise is getting the recognition and success that it truly deserves. I play MWO practically every day because I just love how it captures the feel of piloting in a BattleMech in combat, as well as tinkering with my Mechs in the Mech Bay. Now that Piranha Games has announced MechWarrior 5: Clans, I'm really looking forward to this new game and am interested in how they will portray the Clan warriors in the story. Most fans of the games have most likely not read the novels, and do not have context on the brutal warrior culture of the Clans. Their use of eugenics programs that create genetically superior warriors through gene manipulations and selective traits, superior technology due to having access to advanced Star League databases and manufacturing facilities, which were lost in the Inner Sphere due to the many Succession Wars that followed the fall of the Star League, and their general disregard for any and all lives that are not those of trueborn (genetically modifed) Clan warriors, especially people born through normal childbirth, who they despise above all others and refer to as freeborn, make them out to be villains initially in the novels. However, many Clans after the Battle of Tukayyid eventually realize that they are not so different than their freeborn Inner Sphere counterparts.

I've read the books and played every Mechwarrior game since the OG Battletech on my Commodore 128D I bought in the Nuremberg PX while I was stationed in Erlangen West Germany back in late 80s. So glad they came out with a new Mechwarrior after so many years and the DLCs for Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries were awesome. Can't wait for CLANS to come out. Cheers from America!

Been playing the PC games for decades. Only now at the age of 45 I got into the table top for the first time.

0:57 "Slower, more tactical" he says, as he's zipping around in a Javelin at 150kph.

MW:O still being alive, and being played by a few thousand people every day, after over a decade of exisiting, and with all the Problems it went through, is testament to the pull of the franchise . And despite all their failings, one has to give PGI credit . For the legal win against the leeches as well as reviving entirer the Mechwarrior franchise . Heres one highest Tier founder for MW:O hoping the PvP side of Mechwarrior keeps going .

I still remember when my dad bought me MW4 for my birthday. That installer hitting you with Wednesday 7 was pure bliss

On the TTRPG side, the introduction of Battletech Alpha Strike has also done wonders to breath new life into the Battletech universe, and is a great gateway game into the Classic Battletech, while also standing on it's own as a solid entry. In fact for quick 2 to 3 hour sessions I prefer Alpha Strike personally.

Just don't go onto the MWO forums. They have been predicting the game's death since 2015

@kumarsalib722

Ай бұрын

They haven't been wrong. There are no new MWO players.

@alistairsmith4297

Ай бұрын

Probably because of how brutal the in game economy is. It's the reason I gave up on it.😊

@Mecha_Hitler

Ай бұрын

mwo players have never played war thunder

@torifin755

Ай бұрын

@@kumarsalib722 as a new MWO player. i am a testament to that. i love my big stompy robots ever since gundam. if its big. its stompy and it shoots. (and looks good, thanks Battletech for having such snazzy mech designs) im gonna play it. even if i hate it.

@Bruno-cb5gk

28 күн бұрын

@@alistairsmith4297 the economy is very generous for a F2P game, frequent 50% off sales and regular events that give free premium currency and items

Man, I remember pouring over the ' Technical Manuals ' as my friends and I role played the og tabletop game and I also loved the look of the character sheets.😅

I absolutely love battletech and MechWarrior, so glad to see a video on it!

BattleTech is better and bigger than it's ever been and I really love seeing the future unfold in the lore.

Still waiting on the return of Chromehounds. God I miss that game.

Thanks for giving my favorite game some love.

I miss proper mechwarrior game - mechwarrior 3. Where you could control the reticle separately with mouse, and not mouse (and reticle) glued to torso movement. This really simulated helmet tracking, which would be a great step into properly porting this into VR

@CallsignYukiMizuki

2 күн бұрын

Mechwarrior 3 is kino, if only the controls were more intuative

ngl, the judge that told harmony gold to pound sand is an unsung hero.

Damn it. When the video said “new mech warrior game coming out”, I heard Battletech (the HBS game). Grrrrrr. I know , HBS gone, license, etc. One can hope I guess.

This is a win for all fans of battletech

Love this. Just started playing MWO a year ago. Im blown away by the depth of combat, a fresh coat of a paint and slight graphical updates and I think the series will take off like 40k. Niche nerdy games are in now like never before.

As someone who got back into the Battletech universe due to the clix game that WizKids put out in the early 2000s I cannot be happier with how things have been going for the franchise since MWO and HBS Battletech game came out. I am eagerly awaiting the 212 minis I have coming from the mercenaries kickstarter. I am not looking forward to painting them though :P

I'm a warhammer guy, but I've been a fan of the battle tech universe since I was introduced to it via Mech Assult, and boy do I wish I had money and time for 40k minis and battle tech minis

This one the franchise I would looove to see as a live-action show. It's so relavant to the genre: a small team of mercs being the main characters, and their client/rivals/friends & foes being the secondaries. It would not even need so much mech' action to be nice, so I don't think it would be that expensive. (But those scenes oughta be real good, though...)

I still play Mechwarrior Online every now and then. It has it's flaws but it's still fun to actually pilot your own customized mech against other real players

Because of mechwarrior 5, i started delving into the tabletop version of BattleTech and boy am I hooked! Admittedly I prefer alpha strike instead classic since I value my time lol.

Check out Mechwarrior Living Legends someday. Its a mod of crysis wars and it finally gives mechwarrior the huge map sizes it deserves, alongside combined arms with jets/VTOLs/Battle Armor. The community is small and sometimes still has organized play in Chaos March IIRC.

I love Mechwarrior 5, I put nearly 200 hours into it before I even decided to mod it, I have over 600 hours currently and I'm still playing, I really only bought the DLC's to give Piranha money and ensure the continued existence of Mechwarrior. Looking forward to MW5: Clans I bought Battletech at launch for much the same reason although I still haven't actually played it and it looks like there won't be another one given what happened to the developer...thanks for that Paradox. At least I can download and play the Mech Commander games again.

Great end at the video. Like the ractor online!

Cool vid But why you dont mention Living Legends?

Dropped $500 on the new Kickstarter . I only recently got into the tabletop 1 year ago . But I played mech warrior 2 on Xbox

Battletech was superb. I had some of the Battletech toys as a kid. They could shoot projectiles and could have parts blown off by pressing the critical spot. Tyco was king of toys in the early days.

I love Hawken!!! Is it back on Steam?!? illgolook...

Starsiege and chromehounds are and will always be the best mech games ever made.

I'd kill to see the Battletech/Mechwarrior world/canon on the big Screen!!!

As someone who worked on MW4 and Black Knight as a tester, I'm honestly curious what happened to the franchise after MW4 Mercs. FASA Interactive was still onsite so it seems like if there had been interest from them they'd have been allowed to make a MW5, and yet clearly that didn't happen. Despite some faults and a weirdly clunky engine, I think Pirahna did an absolutely amazing job with MWO overall. I especially like the design work they put into Lasers (the fact that each beam lasts for a duration and you hold it on target) and Missiles (there's a crazy amount of nuance if you look into the details of how they work). Spent a ridiculous amount of time and money in this game (and still think about going back occasionally). Battletech (2018) I think was pretty good overall, though man...that bizarro choice to have the map take place someplace entirely weird? I don't get that. Honestly I'd probably have put a little more time into it if it moved a bit faster. It's nowhere near the slowest turn-based game I've played, but I spent an awful lot of time waiting for things to happen. Mechwarrior 5 (2019) was better. Re-using the excellent MWO mech designs was smart. Still, I think mission design and AI could've been done better. Basically I love a lot of their sandbox systems, and think they'd have done even better by making it that much more sandbox-like (with more variety to missions). In both the recent games I actually wasn't really that excited by the stories. None of them really get a chance to be told that well, due to the nature of the games' scale. But to both games' credit each felt a bit truer to Battletech than we had back on MW4 I think. By that I'm just referring to the dark age of tech that exists in Battletech during the time period where most games are set, where things are breaking down and people are so desperate to keep their military running that salvage is a major factor. I don't really think MW4 did it bad, but BT/MW5 did it better.

MechWarrior Living Legends was the best recent game, other than the excellent Battletech. MW5 has serious problems that modding has had to fix.

I do rly like the battletech series, but there's one thing that's always kinda hampered the designs to me, and it's that so many of the mechs have giant "Shoot me here" glass cockpits lmao. Like, I love the designs but I wish they took just a little more influence from japanese real robot mecha designs that tend to avoid this (just don't look at gundam Turn A)

What sucks is catalyst is tanking the tabletop. Theyre also using the kickstarters to take peoples money

THIS IP NEVER LOST ITS AUDIENCE. There are millions of people around the world that love Battletech. what caused Mech Warrior to go dark was the fact that the IP was sold to, I dunno, 4 or 5 different buyers all of which ran their part of it into the ground and then just sat on the rights, for years... People still love Battletech Mech Warrior, Shadowrun and all the other FASA properties, but we never thought we would see them again because companies like Harmony Gold ran the IP into the ground and refused to do anything with it including sell it.

I want an fps sort of like arma 3 or some tactical shooter type where you can do infantry and mech combat, but more milsim like, but more so in the vain of something like gundam where it is faster paced than a lot of the mech fps stuff, but not super arcade, idk what I'm trying to convey, but I think it would be sick, just cant articulate it

Here's hoping CGL doesn't fuck it up like GW has been with Warhammer

Exteel online R.I.P 2009 i played as a kid had a lot of gundam like mech mix and match parts with DIY builds ---- I also played a bit of HAWKEN but the game also had a issue with dodge key for 2 sides atleast i couldnt realy get my flow with that, How ever i played the mech that got the police skin eventully at mastering it i believe (forgot the name of it). --- Mechwarrior online is fun but not realy EU playerbase sadly. By the way a fun note i got 3 toy mechs from Knex the caterpillar / firestarter / construction they where made years ago but these are nicest one's how ever you can find some older knex mech things sadly they used carton for serten parts so yeah high chance you wont find those anymore or barely these days.

As well as Battletech has done, it would have done far better had it not been involved in the near endless harassment lawsuits. Lawsuits that drained the much needed capital in the early days of the franchise, and very likely is the primary killer of the battle pods arcade simulator planned for the late 80's / early 90's(? sorry it's late and I need sleep, hope i got the years right). I can only image what those battle pod games would have done to profits, had they become reality. Imagine a MWO type multiplayer experience at your local arcade, in an actual moving simulator style cockpit with multiple displays. Now imagine that when the other games of that day were Pacman and Galaga style console games. I personally think it would have been HUGE.

I have loved the Battle Tech IP ever since the BattleTech Sega game. I haven't played many of the versions that came out becaue i personally felt that they didn't quite harness the soul of the game. Battle Tech is supposed to be about going in alone, or as a part of a team and taking out mission objectives. destroying buildings and getting into occasional engagements with other mechs. However, they went more on a PVP focus and straight up Mech vs Mech gameplay. When i play a mech game i want to FEEL like i am big and powerful. Not just some oversized player in yet another FPS PVP game. I want to leave a trail of destruction in my wake. For me, Chrome hounds and Mech assault were more of a spiritual successor than more of the recent games. Additionally. My favorite Mech game of all time is "Earth Siege II" as a teen i absolutely loved the sh!t out of this game. it was like a simpler MechWarrior game. MechWarrior was just far to complex for my liking at the time

Did you make Cones of Dunshire and have a calzone obsession by any chance?

@tlee3205

27 күн бұрын

I'd be lying if I said I got the reference

@nicklawrence7616

27 күн бұрын

@@tlee3205 Ah, I think you sound like a bit like Ben Wyatt from Parks and Rec aka Adam Scott 😀

And how Sigmarxists killed it.

Phantom crash is a great mech game

Mechwarrior Online still is one of my favorite games. All systems nominal. Good hunting Mechwarriors

You missed Multiplayer Battletech 3025

I have to mention MechWarrior Living Legends Crysis wars total conversion as the best online game that ever happened to MW.

Combat Math: Christ That's a Lot of Charts Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Second Edition: "Am i a joke to you?!"

Armored Core 6 came out last year.

.... since you mentioned it ... considering what happened recently i hope MS lays low to not involve itself with anything regarding Mechwarrior/Battletech but leaves it at giving the license to more or less cable hands ... be PGI (whatever you think about them) be it HBS i simply do not have any MS itself to handle the propperty fairly with further yeeting people and devteams ... 6:19 ... .... WHHAAAT?! 🤯

Wait. The clans comming out this year???

Since I got into the franchise with MechAssault, I would love to see another one. Maybe have a bit of customization like a chassis and weapons but cut some out like armor and heat sinks, just to bring it up to date some but not a full blown mech sim.

Am I the only one that remembers earthsiege?

Uhm, Steve Jackson Named his game "warhammer" after his favortie mech IN Battletech...

Would you want to try VR mech games like Iron Rebelion, Vox Machinae and others?

@tlee3205

Ай бұрын

Iron Rebellion actually commented on one of my other videos. While I had mixed feelings about a company advertising in my comments section I have to admit I found the game interesting until I realized it was VR only. As fun as VR looks a proper setup is a little out of my budget for this channel right now.

@w.l.7081

Ай бұрын

@@tlee3205 This two games are on Quest 2 stand-alone without a PC needed only 200$ or cheaper second hand. More comfortable solution is Quest 3 starts at 500$.

@w.l.7081

Ай бұрын

@@tlee3205Both of the games I mentioned are on Quest 2 stand-alone, without a PC needed 200$ or cheaper used. Quest 3 is a more comfortable solution but starts at 500$.

@w.l.7081

Ай бұрын

@@tlee3205 I don't know why two of my previous comments got auto-deleted by KZread. All I was trying to say is you don't need a PC, space, or wires all over the place for virtual reality. You can have a standalone virtual reality from 4 different companies. Check which headset has more mech games and which ones are better for you.

Mechwarrior is always king

im kinda sad you didnt mention Mechwarrior Living Legends.

@tlee3205

Ай бұрын

With the amount of comments I'm getting about Living Legends I'm thinking I should give it a shot.

Bring back mechcommander...

(PREPARE FOR BATTLEMECH DEPARTURE) Sensors: online. Reactor: online Weapons: Online All systems Nominal

A War Thunder style MW could be fun.

I remember wanting so bad to play mechwarrior as a kid but it was all to complicated for me back then. could figure it out so lost interest

oh I remember these guys , they was like OMG have sale. and than a week alter Oh yes we canceling the game

Ehhh titanfall doesn't have a place here. The titans are second to the first person shooter, they are there but the focus is on human gunplay primarily. It's CoD with mechs, not mechs with humans. I digress, lots have gripes with Mwo and pgi, but they single handedly kept the franchise alive. Through them our childhood battlebots survive and even have 3 mainline entries. Hbs battletech, mw5, and soon mw5: clans. We could have very easily had none. So, credit where credit is due. Good on Russ and PGI. Because of them we have mechwarrior games to complain about(versus none at all).

some inaccuracies here.

1:17 reawee

you didn't mention "mechwarrior 5 clans"

@donquixote2072

7 күн бұрын

6:07

The fact that Microsoft ever had the rights to Battletech/Mechwarrior IP is criminal. Of course they would do nothing/ruin it.

@tsiefhtes

Ай бұрын

They killed the MechWarrior 5 which was by all accounts at least halfway to completion to crank out MechAssult games for the original Xbox. The first Microsoft was decent success on the OG Xbox the sequel's not so much Microsoft chose to blame declining sales on the property rather than their choice of making cookie cutter games too close together. If they waited to make make MechAssult 2 for the 360 it probably would have done well. Thankfully they didn't and now we have battletech an a non Microsoft MechWarrior 5.

Starsiege

Harmony gold only yad the rights to macross southern cross and Mospeada. Not Sun of the fang Douram or Ceusher Joe

my brother in christ. Battletech -predates- 40k, it was the legal battles that f'ed Battletech

New Battletech game this year? What are you talking about?

@larslaufer301

Ай бұрын

Mechwarrior 5 Clans will be comming 2024, if everything goes according to plans.

@DartNoobo

Ай бұрын

@@larslaufer301 ah, so it is not a DLC? This is why I got confused. Thanks!

@larslaufer301

Ай бұрын

@@DartNoobo Yah there seam to be some legal chinanigans going an to why it can't be MechWarrior 6 but then again... its in good company. MW2 was about the Clans. Then MW2 Mercs was released. Now its the other way around. As for MW5 Clans. Yes its a stand alone game from the view of some Smoke Jaguars recrutes set around the time of the clan invasion.

@DartNoobo

Ай бұрын

@@larslaufer301 smoke jaguar recruites? Clan warriors ain't no recruites! Finally I'll be able to show them spheroids what the real mech warrior is! Thx for the info.

@lukedudley5030

Ай бұрын

​@DartNoobo lol...I'm glad you clanners are coming :-) you do remember that us stupid inner sphere guys win :-) we have a telecom company that wont stand for your shenanigans :-) but serious i agree with you cant wait for mw5 clans it looks like it'll be fun...you clan guys do have the nicest toys :-)

wish enjoying giant robot games didn't involve so much legal action. Harmony Gold is neither harmonious nor golden when it comes to giant robot loving. Disharmony Lead doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Well, I would call kickstarters life support mode. And Catalyst is happy to disappoint fans no less than GW. MW5: Clans looks dated, as should look expansion (which it basically is) for a 5 years old game. And worst part PGI can't do, what has already been done 20 years ago. For me it's more IP-hostage situtation than anything else.

idk why no one has tried to make a great mech crpg leveling is already built in with parts and such and its just so cool...my problem with mech games might be that the world seems clunky like the can't scale the size with the world or something. maybe make the main character or party smaller not like 100 ft tall. dose not make sense to me why their anrt more great mech games.... sorry that was a lot of nonsense babbling for nothing but im not going to do the smart thing and cancel this comment GO MECH!!!

Sadly catalyst has become an infected sore on the battletech communites rise to popularity again in the war gaming space as their stwerd ship and steering has been co-oped by incompetent writers and even more incopetent staff their management of the most recent kickstarter while pulling massive interest numbers doesnt reflect quality of service to its community currently IP owners i not doing right by fans by over selling amd under delivering on promises we the fans kept battletech alive and will continue to do so glory to us the fanbase and sceew the corporate greed of these companies that fail on their promises and damage our shared IP. #communitymakesbettercannon

why no mention of Living Legends?? because it was a pure fan produced mod rather than a minor/major production?? man.. for me, nothing will EVER top the original AOL MPBT Solaris and then after that became 10$ an hr to play, Mechwarrior 2 NETMECH on Kali hahha oh man those were the fuckin days

I didn't even know that Harmony Gold finally put in their place. What an awful company.

I hope Clans is gonna be good. The story missions in mechwarrior 5 mercenaries were the worst part of the game.

More GW f around the bigger battletech & mech warrior will get

BT always felt like the OG of mecha games (I don't think it actually is, but I can't be sure) and it makes me so happy to see it thrive again. There were so many high points over the years that I'll never forget, e.g. the Mech Commander 2 cut scenes were some of the best, most lore accurate for any franchise ever and felt so damn apropos in 2001, even prescient to an extent. The new minis are absolutely awesome designwise, even if production value could be a bit better. And the community is well managed, for the most part inclusive (which must have been a surprise for some of the WH40K refugees XD), and generally welcoming to newcomers.

@macdeus2601

Ай бұрын

Mecha stuff in general is sort of a world with two places--Japan, and everywhere else--but in terms of games specifically, I don't know if there are even any Japanese franchises with the same clout. Battletech did get sued once by the Macross people (Japanese comics/anime franchise that was big in the 80's) for literally copying a mech design, and even apart from that you can see how Macross (among other Japanese franchises) was a huge source of inspiration. Certainly in the USA, however, mech-based gaming is a world of "Battletech, and everyone else".

MWO is an outdated game that plays like a game from 2011. Yep, they've "updated" it. It's still the same dated game modes. The only reason it's still popular is that there are literally no alternatives with similar armor/weapon/skill mechanics on an RPG level of complexity. Crossout kind of comes close. And it's not a casual game like people expect a modern PVP to be. Every game is a 20 minute commitment with no respawns and the "casual lobby" is filled with friends group whose life is literally mwo instead of football or body building or model building or other hobbies. They will destroy every casual player drop and get nothing out of it. I really wish pirhana never got the rights, because microsoft would have released some AAA games by now. Instead we have a dated PVP and buggy single player