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On reincarnation: A lot of Finns still recycle family names: Second names are still often a name of some great-grandfather/uncle or great-grandmother/aunt. I think Originally the belief was that a relative who died long before you were born, might be reborn as your child, thus recycling the same family spirits/people in the family generations. This was also why in old times, some used to give a same name to a newborn baby, than they had to their previous baby that had died as an infant: Parents saw it as a spirit of a same child, trying to come back a second time. Also: Finns still have the tradition of not having someone named after someone who is still alive. No Seppo Junior's here, though I don't think most people remember why: Because it was believed that Death might make a mistake, and take the younger Seppo, when it was actually Seppo Senior, whose time had come. So, no young and old person in a same family with a same name, to avoid misfortune.

@Dextrous90

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm. First names are rarely used again, but some areas/families have middle names that run in the family. For reference, both my grandfather's families come originally from former Finnish Karelia. Both of my middle names are from my fathers side. First one being a common middle name among males in my fathers side of the family and my second one coming straight from my grandfathers first name.

@Silveirias

Жыл бұрын

True, but it is fairly common, at least within my circles (come to think of all examples I can think of are from Karelia, the Finnish part), for son's to have their father's name as a middle name. Not sure if that's common in my generation anymore. But for the son their father's first name would never be their "kutsumanimi" (the name people call you, not necssarily the first name as some people do use their middile name).

@mleszzor6866

10 ай бұрын

Let's say, If my grandfather's from my father's side's middle name was, "Heimo", and my father's middle name was "Heimo", and my middle name was "Heimo" as well, would this mean that, in terms of this belief, there would once come a time where, my grandfather, my father, and I, would be reborn, and get to experience eachother once again? Do you have any other interesting facts about the ancient beliefs of Finland? I'd love to hear them!

Karelians have a rich death tradition with wailing (itku) that helps the dead to reach the afterlife. The language of itku is also a way to speak to the dead.

Death haunts in the Finnish artworks. It has strong presence in Sibelius works. Probably second most famous work after Finlandia; Valse Triste, tells the story about dying woman, who awakes during the night to dance with spirits when death is watching by. It is part of play "Death" by Eero Järnefelt. Another famous Sibelius composition is Swan of Tuonela, the swan, that guides death over the river to the another side. Swan of Tuonela can be seen also in the work of painter Akseli Gallen-Kallela, who has it in backround of dead Kullervo and his mother. At Ainola, Sibelius home, he had in front of him when playing his piano, artwork by Oscar Parviainen. Painting "A Prayer to God" was very strong and intense. There is mother praying next to his dying child when death watches them. Sibelius himself lost his daughter in 1900 when she was child. My favourite and most striking artwork about death has been "The Garden of Death by Hugo Simberg". One version can be see at Ateneum, Helsinki and another in Tampere Cathedral. Other know works are Magnus Enkell's "The wandering of Death" (Ateneum). Simberg was fixated with death and it shows in many of his artwork like "The Peasant and Death at the Gates of Heaven and Hell" and "Death listens" were death is visible. Also the motif can be seen in works like "On the River of Life/The Stream of Life". "Dance on the Quay" is macabre picture, where peasants are watching by when their wife's are danching with death. Death also watches old woman when she peels potatoes. It is not even surprise, that Death is alöso enjoying skating on ice. Nothing is tabu for Simberg: In his "Playmates", naked boy is having conversation with Death as pupil to teacher in school yard.

This was interesting. Could you give us more mythology on Finnish underworld and the afterlife

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

Definitely!

tip: never take anything from a graveyard area. it would upset the graveyard folk and what ever you took will draw in grave folk., if somwthing is taken, it should be returned as soon as possible to the graveyard area

According to some shady sources Things were held at Koli and suspected criminals were thrown off the cliff of Paha-Koli, the dead were guilty and the survivors innocent. Maybe it's a story inspired by the Tarpeian Rock where the Romans executed criminals.

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh, now that's something I have to look into! Thank you!

@katNoddpottir

Жыл бұрын

Well, there are boulders called uhri kivi, uhri kallio, mainly places of sacrifice, my grandparents told me how when they were little kids living in rural Karelian region, their parents would tell them that town folk would sometimes practice the old law and take the criminals to uhrikallio or uhrikivi and that person was never seen again. How far back those stories originate, hard to say but, that would creep kids out and keep them away from the area. So maybe there were human remains there. Also grandpa told me a story of a swamp in Karelia, in a part that is now Russia. It was called Pahasuo and murderers and other real bad criminals were put tied up in the suonsilmä, eye of the swamp.

@alexwelts2553

7 ай бұрын

My Mom was on the cliff with her friends and she said they were as close to the edge as possible back to the fall, and he fell. And I keep having my attention pulled to Jenny jump cliffs. Close to where I grew up but the one my moms was where I was born. Jenny is said to have jumped when startled by a native American man. My grandpa called me Jennifer and never Jessica my actual name, the killers song jenny was a friend of mine, and my fake name when I worked at a bar in my early 20s. It's like I'm free falling and have been for years unable to find any foundation ,. The void?

western finnish undead stories reflect the draugr stories of skandinavia because west-finns are half germanic and half finnic. Finnic and Germanic elements are mixed together in their folklore. the fact that western finland is half germanic can be seen in the genetics of finland. west finns are genetically different from their eastern kin because of the blood of germanic tribes who settled finland during migration period. but at the same time, the finnic blood of Kvens and Karelians have made west-finns genetically apart from their germanic kin in the south-west. western finns are like bridge beetween finnic and germanic worlds.

My great-grandmother belived in reincarnation. She was hoping her brother, who was executed in the civil war, would be reincarnated as her child, but I don't think she believed any of her sons was him reborn since she didn't name anyone after her brother. But looking at their birthdates, it seems that she was hoping to have a son born on her brother's birthday.

Very well done and informed video 👍. Tell you the truth, you just might be one of my favourite KZreadrs right now. So there's something to tell Folks back home in Ireland 🇫🇮🤝🇮🇪

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! 🖤

It's genuinely a delight to learn about the theological/ontological aspect my people's ancient culture. Thank you.

Suomalainen tarina on parasta tarinaa

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

Damn thats awesome! Have you got an insta account!?

@maleficara

Жыл бұрын

@@IrishinFinland I do! I will send you a message.

Thanks! This is very interesting!

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

🤟🏻

The dead might be good guests: They would have lots of stories to tell, but they likely wouldn't eat your food or drink your booze, at least not as much as living ones.

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! If the dead could talk....

@katNoddpottir

Жыл бұрын

My grandparents are from Karelia and they always said to treat death people that come to visit same as the living ones. And we did, house I crew up, the builder and the first owner of the house had fallen down the basement stairs and died. My dad bought the house from the widow, who said:" Hope you don't mind Yrjö my dead husband he still hangs around here. I'm tired of him, I want to move on. He's a nice guy, he said he'll look after your little one." So we would set the plate for him too, every time the basement door opened up on it's own and we could hear food steps in the hallway.

TORILLE! Great video about finnish folklore! :)

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

Cheers! 🤟🏻

Excellent!

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@Opforvideo2

Жыл бұрын

Who did the art at 3:45? Those little impy ibex skull gnome things are adorable.

Im interested in Finnish marriage traditions back in the old days if you would make a video of that it would be awesome.

You need to release another video on this subject on 5th. And make it spookier. 😉

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

I've something else planned for that 🤟🏻😎

No matter who died, the person was washed in the sauna first before dressing them etc. Women had the duty of washing them.

beautiful. Do you know Philosophicat? it is a youtube channel. She also speak of the realm of the dead in one of her series which are amazing to watch. It is fascinating to be similar, and I wonder what about us who are not thought how to die, or why we die on spiritual level. where do those people go? are they becoming just wondering spirits.

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

I'll check it our for sure! Thank you

First! 💀

The idea of reincarnation is neat, but where are you getting the idea that ancient finns actually believed in it?

your videos are too short for me but otherwise pretty good

@IrishinFinland

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻 I don't really care about how long a video will be, if I make a video and it's 3 minutes that's what it is

@katNoddpottir

Жыл бұрын

@Irish in Finland good way to keep people wanting more and come back for more, when the videos are not super long 😉