I'm also excited to announce that I'm starting a podcast that will be on this channel as well as iTunes, Spotify, etc. very soon. The proper announcement will come soon, so keep an eye out, and let me know of any potential guests you'd like me to reach out to.

@anna-gg9kg

5 жыл бұрын

looking forward to this

@jacobcrayola9311

5 жыл бұрын

about what?

@twelvedozen5075

5 жыл бұрын

Supporting governments that impose an income tax supports slavery as well. Wake up, STatheists.

@injata

5 жыл бұрын

A talk with AronRa would be fun

@datboyke

5 жыл бұрын

Get prince EA on the podcast.

I missed you, you well articulated bastard.

@sjkdsfsdf52

5 жыл бұрын

i farted during reading your comment :)

@anonymous-jf4jc

5 жыл бұрын

@@sjkdsfsdf52 n o

@alinac5512

5 жыл бұрын

👍😂

@jinnouchii

5 жыл бұрын

Well put.

@kevinwheesysouthward9295

5 жыл бұрын

That means that he has two or more sections connected by a flexible joint.

Wait... my boss isn't allowed to mercilessly beat me? I really got to find a new job.

@iamvickie9145

5 жыл бұрын

@Michael Driggers I know right? It's still awful even if this was referring to indentured servitude. If I am only working for you as an employee to pay out a debt, why in the hell would I allow you to beat me and why would you even think you could? It makes no sense either way.

@doctorpurple5173

5 жыл бұрын

My job requires me to be beaten by my boss. 👅👅👅🤑😘

@iamvickie9145

5 жыл бұрын

@@doctorpurple5173 ...well...If you like that sorta thang...🤪

@doctorpurple5173

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamvickie9145 I certainly do

@moderncaleb3923

5 жыл бұрын

Rebuttal video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWqnttWod7HXlZs.html

“proper treatment of slaves” Biggest oxymoron I have heard

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

Remember slaves also translates to worker. And you also don't treat slaves good. So there is that.

@FINESTGAMER100

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonicrocks2007 can you send a link to where u found that out at

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@FINESTGAMER100 according to strong translation δοῦλος (doulos). Can translate to slave, servant, maid and can also be voluntary. So voluntary workers are considered doulos. The hebrew word עֶ֫בֶד (e.ved) translates according LSJ dictionary, as worker, worshipper, maid, servant, priest or prophet Both (e.ved) and (doulos) are used a lot in context to refer to Christians and Jews. When talking about actual slaves. Remember that Israel was in slavery when It was happening and had stricter laws about servants and had ways to release them unlike the other nations. And the servants were Foriegn. Just like how America uses china. however unlike Americans using the Chinese or indian workers . Servants could convert to ones nationality and religion and be freed from all debts every 7 years and were paid appropriately. That system I would say is more civilized then America where you can get 25 year college loan debts. And we do not pay our need for Foriegn workers at the same rate as US workers.

@Vic2point0

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. The bible itself commands people to treat slaves properly, forbidding them from oppressing them or threatening them, telling people to treat the slaves as the slaves are to treat them, and telling them to let slaves live and work wherever they want.

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vic2point0 and it provides way to get out of all financial debt and free your children every 7 years unlike america.

"God did not create slavery, he regulated it" I just about fell off my chair on that one. Had to stop the video for a minute.

@AdvancedSquadLeader

3 жыл бұрын

But God created everything right? He has perfect knowledge? If so he created a world that he knew would contain it.

@freedapeeple4049

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdvancedSquadLeader That's right. If an omniscient god created the universe, it knew precisely what would happen.

@jaebird3077

3 жыл бұрын

God was not a slaver he just explained good economic practices when dealing with forced unpaid labor....come on guys have faith

@felixblakat7718

3 жыл бұрын

I think the correct term is "being voluntold"

@primekrunkergamer188

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaebird3077 U are joking right? Why would he say how to treat a slave when he didnt approve of it. Thats like god writing a step to step guide on how to hook up with girls even though he disaproves of it.

He protecc He attacc But most importantly He bacc

@BalaenicepsRex3

5 жыл бұрын

You mean "He protecc He attacc But most importantly He's bacc"

@AlastorsShadowDemon

5 жыл бұрын

@XY ZW It sounds better if "protecc" is first.

@BalaenicepsRex3

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlastorsShadowDemon That's right.

@HahtaanDaetori

5 жыл бұрын

Because attacc and bacc rhyme and then you switch the order it doesn't rhyme so it doesn't sound right

@justinlee4890

5 жыл бұрын

Alright I changed it for you guys

Oh my God. I got triggered af at "god regulated slavery, because he knew men were evil". The amount of hoops your brain has to flop through to be alright with that argument is CRAZY!

@Jambuc829

5 жыл бұрын

Erik Nelson They don’t want anything to end their comforting fiction of heaven after death.

@Iammikeyrivers

4 жыл бұрын

Erik Nelson god isn’t real

@thickerconstrictor9037

4 жыл бұрын

This thought process and argument from Believers is pathetic. If there is a God he would know that all of his rules, people would still do it. A God would know people are still going to eat shellfish and wear mixed Fabrics. What I would expect to see if the Bible were written by man pretending to be God, would be allowing slavery as we see. What I would expect from a real MORAL God, would be thou shalt not own another human being as property. people still attempting to justify the Bible and slavery is pathetic. There is no context there is no excuse. The Bible is filled with immoral bullshit. They have failed to justify the belief in a God for 2k years. They use awful arguments filled with fallacies, circular reasoning, and God of the gaps. It's pathetic. It's embarrassing, it's a joke.

@awkwardukulele6077

4 жыл бұрын

Stig Weard by Orin’s beard you’re right! Mentioning a things name means you automatically believe the thing is real! How could it be any other way? What, maybe people use colloquialisms because they’re common phrases and language is a thing people learn from other people? And just because the way people say “I am upset by these things” is currently, “oh my *insert name here”* doesn’t mean that there’s belief, or even much thought, behind those words? Great Googly-Moogly, Batman, what a hot take. /s obviously. How anyone still thinks saying God’s name means something when it’s so culturally ingrained to say religious things that we say ‘bless you’ when we sneeze is a mystery to me.

@awkwardukulele6077

4 жыл бұрын

Stig Weard this is my gift to you: /s I only have one to spare, use it well

As it has been stated often: It was the bible that turned me into an atheist. This topic of slavery and others convinced me that the books of the bible were written by men claiming to speak for a god.

@ccookRomans

4 жыл бұрын

I'm black but I have a good understanding that bondservants were not the same as African slaves to the Europeans!!!!!!!!!!

@chasson321

4 жыл бұрын

ccook you are partially correct. If you keep reading your bible you will discover that the Israelites were instructed to take perpetual slaves from the surrounding nations.

@ccookRomans

4 жыл бұрын

@@chasson321 I never disagreed with that. These are called "bondservants". Prisoner-servants! I just disagree with anyone that think that this is the same thing as the European and African treatment!

@susanmaggiora4800

4 жыл бұрын

ccook2010 Romans 1:16 They weren’t prisoner servants when taken from Africa? They were taken prisoner & were made to be servants. The mental gymnastics are fucking insane with you people 🤦‍♂️

@vaibhavigupta6

4 жыл бұрын

That's why you need JESUS to understand BIBLE.

Feels like bible was written by one of my highschool bullies who grew up and justified every deed and bent rules for their advantage to keep exploiting other colleagues.

@harlonuk1594

2 жыл бұрын

Yes like he saw stupid people who didn't know how to think and decided to exploit them by cooking up some heaven hell and sin saving story

@zzzzzz69

11 ай бұрын

God is evil pretending to be good, that's what the bible portrays

"I talk loudly, therefor I am right."

@sundayschoolflunkie3979

4 жыл бұрын

Shen Bapiro Disorder on prominent display here, folks.

@prydeow9101

4 жыл бұрын

That's why Christians use all caps lol

@swordthrower2035

4 жыл бұрын

PrydeOW im a Christian and I personally fine people who do that annoying

@skyeosullivan1014

4 жыл бұрын

@@swordthrower2035 You shouldn't fine anyone! are you some sort of governing body?

@swordthrower2035

4 жыл бұрын

Skye O'Sullivan im sorry i don’t understand what you mean. All i said was i find people who talk in all caps annoying

As a black person it just pains me to see anyone, let alone another black man defending the bibles clear facilitation of slavery. Thats like some serious Stockholm syndrome

@philippm.jellinghaus281

4 жыл бұрын

@James Hitch. lol

@durendalarcas8209

4 жыл бұрын

Watch this rebuttal. kzread.info/dash/bejne/onmG1a6tk8y0mLw.html

@ccookRomans

4 жыл бұрын

I'm black but I have a good understanding that bondservants were not the same as African slaves to the Europeans!!!!!!!!!!

@prydeow9101

4 жыл бұрын

@@ccookRomans so you support slavery as a black man?

@ccookRomans

4 жыл бұрын

@@prydeow9101 Did you not read my comment?

"God gives humanity a choice." Said choice being that of blind obedience and unquestioning faith that everything God does is right and perfect, or being eternally tortured for having the audacity to ask questions and exercise free will. How the hell does that NOT sound like slavery to you people!?

@thehonesttruth415

4 жыл бұрын

the "slavery" term used in the bible are basically prisoners of war. when america goes to fight isis and captures them, they are prisoners of war. in prison they do some sort of work for the country. then the israelites didnt have prisons, the prisoners of war were given to the people as workers, and they were to be treated fairly. an atheist thinks from his recent knowledge of the word slavery which is about black slaves who didnt plan to fight the west or never attacked the west and they were taken as slaves, and the atheist concludes thats what slavery is by definition so then the atheist concludes thats what slavery is in the bible. false logic by atheist.

@Nyrufa

4 жыл бұрын

@@thehonesttruth415 Did you even watch the video before trying to lie to me? The only slaves who were treated fairly were fellow Israelites. Those taken from other nations received no such treatment. Also, it explicitly states that it's okay to beat your slaves, as long as they manage to recover after a few days.

@chloemoore6324

4 жыл бұрын

@@thehonesttruth415 Exodus 21:7, 8. Sexual slavery being condoned in the bible. Disgusting.

@cristiadu

4 жыл бұрын

because you can just reject all the concept of it. Not allowing punishment nor reward (if there is any).

@zereimu

4 жыл бұрын

@@chloemoore6324 You do realize that daughters would be sold into indentured servitude, without having any actual work to do because marriage was actually more expensive than a contract of servitude right? Back then families pretty much married each-other through their kids too, Christianity didn't transform marriage into what it is today till later.

"The only proper treatment of slaves is their freedom." Very well said.

A Christian cherry picking from the Bible? Who could have imagined such a thing!

@curiousenby7206

5 жыл бұрын

Not me lol

@priti9016

5 жыл бұрын

Not him lol

@lordcole5138

5 жыл бұрын

Edward Siegel so Christians are “criminals” just because they believe a higher being instead of everything coming from nothing?

@priti9016

5 жыл бұрын

But cherries are nice tho ;-;

@elsiegel84

5 жыл бұрын

@@lordcole5138 intellectual criminals, as I stated. but also fraudsters and dupes if you read the entire comment. It's true because I believe it and I have faith in my opinion. lol.

I see. American slavery was bad, Biblical slavery was good. Glad that was straightened out.

@justchilling704

5 жыл бұрын

Yup pretty simple.

@xord1946

5 жыл бұрын

"Human: Slavery is okay" Is awful. An evil person who deserves eternal hell. "God: Slavery is okay" is perfectly fine this guy knows better after all

@justchilling704

5 жыл бұрын

Xord Hebrews didn’t have a word for slavery it was translated as such in English simply because that’s the closed word we had. Even in the English language slavery isn’t objectively bad there are different forms chattel slavery like what was practiced in the west was completely banned in Israel and so was treating slaves as property and beating,. raping, them etc. Was all illegal in ancient Israel. Lastly God neither founded nor endorsed slavery Alex gave a very inaccurate analogy in the beginning of the video this video is for the Historically, and Biblically ignorant, people who know there stuff weren’t fooled by the straight up lies told in this video in fact Alex was relying on emotion in this he even he was purposely misleading people by putting up a picture of a black chattel slave the very form forbidden In Israel Insee his audience are gullible teens.

@xord1946

5 жыл бұрын

He used. Litteral. Verses. From the Bible. Explain how this is based upon emotions. And don't play the "urrrr durrr it is badly translated" card, anyone can't just suggests his own interpretation of the Bible and then publish it as the real Bible, the people who translated it are more christian that you will ever dream to be. It's not even JUST the word "slave", it's the whole concept of owning humans and beating them, which was not only actually practiced but supported by the Bible as Alex just successfully proved using whole verses with the actual context (so the "out of context" argument wouldn't hold either). But, Deep down, reading your comment, I'm 100% sure this video planted seeds inside you. They will over time germ into reason, which you'll start using and leave this religion.

@Serendarainbow

5 жыл бұрын

@Jesus Christ you are one of the reasons I'm not an atheist.

When I first started to question my faith in my religion it sickened me to realize I worshipped a god that welcomed a slave owner in heaven while casting in hell anyone that was gay regardless of how good they treated their fellow man.

@lolaWWEWWFpunk

2 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity, what religion do you follow now? Or you just don't believe in religion anymore?

@elie6769

2 жыл бұрын

@@lolaWWEWWFpunk if he is religious probably an Asian one"shinto, buddhism, taoism" or spiritual but most likely atheist. You?

@lolaWWEWWFpunk

2 жыл бұрын

@@elie6769 I am a muslim. What about you?

@elie6769

2 жыл бұрын

@@lolaWWEWWFpunk I am officially at least Lebanese maronite Christian but I am an atheist with acknowledgement of some teaching of the Buddha but in Lebanon you can't be an atheist officially

@lolaWWEWWFpunk

2 жыл бұрын

@Atheist Deprogramming God is One. He has no son nor a begotten one. God is above everything you attribute to Him. Lol false prophet! Please. The prophecy in the Quran always came true while the bible didn't. I mean, Christians aren't following Jesus, y'all are just followers of Paul. With so much versions of your holy book, I don't think you should advocate your religion. Even the bible didnt name itself the bible nor did the bible give out the name Christianity in it. Your churches created the Trinity 200 years after the death of Jesus. So many mistakes and flaws. The only true MONOTHEISTIC religions are Islam & Judaism. So chile sit down.

So the all powerful god really wanted to make a law against slavery but it he was unable to.

@jaebird3077

3 жыл бұрын

He has to go through the heavenly courts and have the angelic congress approve it....like it was a lot of work after all the homophobic laws he was sleepy

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

First of in Judeo Christian theology he did make immoral hence nemiah, Essene and Early Christian Community made slavery illegal 2300 years ago. And then later again 1700 years ago. You forget the first abolistionists were Judeo Christians

@universecreator988

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonicrocks2007 And the most brutal slave owners were Christians aswell. Neither of them change the fact that slavery is condoned in the Bible. Have you even watched the video?

@sonicrocks2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@universecreator988 actually you look at history and that is false. Transatlantic slave trade was mostly the Irreligious and southern Americans and Africans. And comparing slavery in non-christian south America was farr worse. For instance life expectancy of slave in Brazil and Honduras was 8-20 years shorter. And if you watch the video he makes tons of mistakes and loses context and uses false premises. Also the Bible and interpretations of the Bible condone slavery. Because you lack reading or history for 2300 years doesn't mean it doesn't. That is why essenes the first group to ban all slaves and material possessions actually believed it based on the Bible. That is 2300 year old. Also whatever brutal slavery the Bible allows you are actually doing the same.

@universecreator988

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonicrocks2007 You could be right, still doesn't change the fact that Christians did the slaves bad for thousands of years following the Bible. Whether they misinterpreted it or not is irrelevant. What was the false in the video? I have read most of those passages and their contexts myself. Everything is pretty much as Alex says in the video.

Welcome back my fellow heathen, we truly missed you.

@charlie4christ536

5 жыл бұрын

Repent and turn to Christ Jesus before it is too late. For after this comes the JUDGMENT. Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life.

@lilygirllisa

5 жыл бұрын

​@@charlie4christ536 *Ok* *Charlie* XD

@chrissonofpear1384

5 жыл бұрын

Charlie - was Nero the antichrist, or not? How many are familiar with Matthew 21:43? Without that, the whole 'this generation will not pass until these things are fulfilled' line will be confusion, perhaps?

@peterboissonnault8445

5 жыл бұрын

@@charlie4christ536 Big sacrifice, dies on a Friday and rises on a Sunday that is two days tops. Maybe takes a brief tour of Hell and comes back to be right hand man of the ruler of the universe for eternity. Not a bad gig if it was real.

@halogen5580

5 жыл бұрын

Charlie4Christ dont do that your forcing your religion on him

"The Bible's not racist, EVERYONE can be a slave!!!!" 🤦‍♀️

@sundayschoolflunkie3979

4 жыл бұрын

...Yay?

@ccookRomans

4 жыл бұрын

Well it's not. Have you read it????

@alanthampi4718

4 жыл бұрын

@@ccookRomans that means the bible supports slavery?

@ccookRomans

4 жыл бұрын

@@alanthampi4718 Your point is????? Are you referring to the same exact thing that the Europeans did you the Africans????

@swordthrower2035

4 жыл бұрын

Alot of slave owners in the bible weren’t cruel to their slaves and even if the bible talks about slavery it doesn’t mean it supports it like the slaves in egypt cried to God to save them from slavery and he saved them

"Oh I'm a Christian! I'm going to go out into the field of the Bible and pick Cherries today!!!"

@catmeme7945

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahah!!🤣 As a christian myself i do not support slavery. And i admitted that there are certain practices written in the Bible that are no longer applicable today (especially Old testament) .

@asathelogiclaman637

3 жыл бұрын

@@catmeme7945 lol so u are basically correcting your god...good job...your god needs to learn to lot more before settinag morals for humans

@jjj4189

3 жыл бұрын

@@asathelogiclaman637 old testament rules was for Israel at that time and slavery was there because If u are in financial probelm , u will go to jail Nowdays but if u were in that time , u could be sold as salve to master and they will take care for u

@asathelogiclaman637

3 жыл бұрын

@@jjj4189 fuck off slavery is never acceptable... Do know the amount of tortures and harm and sorrow that a slave has to go through and what people went throuh in the history??? Beleive me u are just justifying the bible in extream level thats illogical just to beleive in jesus.... Think for a moment why god didnt banned slaveryand not only that lol the bible is full of immoralities... How the fuck can you actually beleive its from god??? Your god not only condones slaver but allows to beat slaves as long as they dont die...only punishment for the dead slaves....your god killed childs..... Your gold told moses to save all the virgin gils for what????parenting them????? Fuck off man get out of this cult

@starverdict3246

2 жыл бұрын

@@LARISSA.KAY. No, the Old Testament don’t apply to us

When he brought up Exodus 21:5-6, I nearly jumped out my chair. He cut out two bits from the middle of that quote, which completely change the meaning of it from "A loophole to make temporary slaves into permanent ones" to the "slavery was consensual" quote that he wanted it to be. That was blatant lying by omission. That makes me mad.

@ConsumeristScroffa

Жыл бұрын

I have watched a lot of his videos, but this one is very weird. I know it's a very old one, but I just didn't think that Alex could make such a rookie atheistic mistake of bringing up the slavery topic when it comes to the bible. If any atheist researched this in depth, I expected it would be Alex. I hope he's more mature now.

@bigmanbigmoves5047

10 ай бұрын

@@ConsumeristScroffa could you elaborate how the argument for slavery in the bible is a wrong one to use?

@tonyfendex2558

3 ай бұрын

What kind of bullshit are you saying??? 1. Slavery is in the bible. 2. The bible--VERY EXPLICITLY--endorses/condones slavery ( Don't eat shellfish, that's BAD, but SLAVERY IS FINE, GOOD, OKAY and NORMAL. And (3) Alex IS EXACTLY QUOTING THE BIBLE AND SAYING EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. MORON, Be mature and GROE A PAIR of BALLS BIG ENOUGH to ACCEPT that you fucking evil and DISGUSTING book is PRO-SLAVERY!!! Dishonest piece of shit!!! @@ConsumeristScroffa

Slavery-Lite. Half the calories; all the subjugation.

@YY4Me133

5 жыл бұрын

@Vladimir_Bone Spur_tRump And, the funny thing is, Prager is jewish.

@broddr

5 жыл бұрын

And all the beating to death of slaves. Although the Bible requires that your slave linger for a day or two for the slave owner to avoid punishment. As opposed to US slave law which had no such requirement. "If a person beats his male or female slave with a stick so severely that he dies, he is to be punished; except that if the slave lives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his property." www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21%3A20-21&version=CJB

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@broddr you know that that is also national law. Usually the Talmud and other sources says yes beating your slave is ok, but for offenses like Rape and Beastiality and Treason. Today we let them go or waterboard them. I am not sure how waterboarding and 25 year imprisonment compares to beating. The bible also gives 5 ways out of any "slave". Also remember there aren't really any "slaves" they are all foreign workers, prisoners of war or self indentured. Slavery was illegal for within the nation. That is why you have groups like Essenes who were the first abolistionists.

@aguyithink4119

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonicrocks2007 Oh well thank god it was only a violation of the Geneva convention

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@aguyithink4119 beating some for rape is against the geneva convention? Source please. Torture is but Corporal Punishment is allowed. Heck many european countries still have it schools. Corporal punishment isn't torture. And you know they could appeal decisions and run away too legally. What makes it less cruel then our failed jail systems or "enhanced interigation" techniques like water boarding. Also curious what your alternatives are. They are a tribe in the middle of the desert. No buildings and jails. They often did use public shaming and coorpral punishment for severe crimes but they could also appeal to judge or go to a sanctuary city. What would your suggestion be?

Ah verse cherry picking, they're great at that

@cjames9320

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, atheists are great at that.

@jacobside2656

5 жыл бұрын

@@cjames9320 no no. The bible thumpers are the ones that cherry pick what they want to hear out of their holy book. Us Atheists just point out how bullshit your holy book is.

@worl9830

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Agbonkpolor he won't watch that because like most atheist, they refuse to accept anything that would shatter their worldview and hurt their feelings. Weak atheists stay deluded til you get what's coming for you. Enjoy getting roasted in hell for eternity.

@worl9830

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacobside2656 you point out the best quality cherry that you picked. Enjoy your time on earth while you still can because you sure won't enjoy your time in the afterlife while your ass is getting roasted for eternity.

@todbeard8118

4 жыл бұрын

@@cjames9320 There are plenty of immoral verses in the bible to cherry pick from.

Ok this may seem unrelated but I can’t help but notice his Star Wars poster in the back says “A New Ho” instead of “A New Hope” because it’s cut off.

@apollontheintp3257

2 жыл бұрын

I bet this was on purpose

i tried to enslave my neighbor on the count that the LORD THY GOD has said it ok. but they keep calling the cops on me and tell me to stop.

@specthegod

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they dont understand that when you will beat them, you will make sure they recover after one or two days. Just tell them they will survive so no problem.

An Afro-american defending slavery... That is just grotesque.

@Dizzinator2114

5 жыл бұрын

I was this guy once then a black woman showed me how I overlooked some scripture. I didn't stop believing or ever tell her she was right at that moment, and honestly that particular thing didn't make me stop believing but it was something among it somewhere.

@peli_candude554

5 жыл бұрын

An atheist attacking Christians based on lies about God condoning slavery? Laughable. Who owns the sex slaves today? *Atheists* ... Who controls the slave labour today? *Atheists* ... Who does that make a hypocrite? *Atheists* No further questions your honor...

@brandonframe1743

5 жыл бұрын

@VideoAudioDisco09 reality is kinda boring sometimes. Definitely at work on a slow day lol

@brandonframe1743

5 жыл бұрын

@@peli_candude554 wtf are you smoking??

@EliosMoonElios

5 жыл бұрын

@UC1AnWkErzT1gJul7wniv7LQ "community and support" Wrong the principal shit church teach is to ENDURE SUFFERING WITHOUT COMPLAIN OR FIGHTBACK that is why the roman Caesar force Christianity in all roman empire when he was losing control of Europe and also in America(the whole continents) the Europeans also force Christianity in indigenous people to make easier the subduing. Torquemada, a catholic priest, command to torture and kill millions of indigenous Mexicans to force Christianity. Religious exploited people doesn't complain they pray.

On monday i was on a funeral, the priest sayed "she was owned by god, we all are a property of god" i dont accept slavery of any kind!

@yungalter8765

4 жыл бұрын

I would have told the priest to shut up.

@sundayschoolflunkie3979

4 жыл бұрын

@@yungalter8765 That's why I don't attend funerals anymore.

@connorbyrd3524

4 жыл бұрын

We're all adopted by God, not necessarily property of him....that priest is corrupt

@prydeow9101

4 жыл бұрын

@@connorbyrd3524 the entire religion is corrupt

@swordthrower2035

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, we are all created by God so in a way she is right he owns us he created us. Someone asked Jesus should we pay taxes to ceaser? And Jesus said give to ceaser what is his and give to God what is his.he means us because he created us in his image. Yes God does own us because he created us he could make us all die right now if he wanted to

“Well that just sounds like slavery with extra steps” Morty smith

So "God allowed slavery, but he REGULATED it - so that it was a GOOD type of slavery"? ... yeah, that doesn't sound very good.

@starverdict3246

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently you don’t understand what servitude slavery is

@Bugsy0333

2 жыл бұрын

@@starverdict3246 it's just a fancy name for "slave."it's a word that people like yourself use to fit your narrative. Makes it sound just a little bit better.

@cagedgandalf3472

2 жыл бұрын

@@starverdict3246 Apparently getting beaten without dying and being a "servant" including their children and wife for life is part of that servitude.

@marcellofunhouse1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@cagedgandalf3472 i get verbally abused by my dad and i wait on him all the time every day does that count?

@cagedgandalf3472

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcellofunhouse1234 what i don't understand

At around 13 mins you mention that the Bible says Hebrew slaves can go free after 6 years. But you cut the part about marriage and children that provided a loop hole and essentially forced the slave to say ”i love my master...” If the slave married while he was a slave, after six years if the slave wanted to leave, he had to leave his wife and kids because THEY remained the slave holders’ property. So it was either leave on your own or remain here and promise that you love your.master. This way they could keep slaves, even Hebrew slaves, for life. The religious guy didn't mention that but...pretty important.

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

It also lists 5 ways to escape slavery and how converting and changing nationality would free your debt. Then it gives an an example of zipporah doing this and later Ruth a moabite woman who was slave working for grains later be released married and later owning that field and later her down her line she had nobles and kings.

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@Abigail Spence the kind of slavery is the same kind of slavery you your self participate in. POW and foreign workers. However unlike you they actually them more chances. For you to be as moral as them you would have extended the chance for citizenship for anyone you bought something off of from China. Even POWs were freed.

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@Abigail Spence even if you do not your country does. If you ever bought from nestle, adidas, target, Mars, Hersey, walmart, nike, apple, android, ebay, amazon , banggood. Or If you ever get or use resources like gold, diamonds , talapia, rice etc. You are no different. I would be really intrested in what device you are sending that from.

@sonicrocks2007

3 жыл бұрын

@Abigail Spence doesn't matter. Almost all rely of Foriegn work and have prisoners of war. Even north korea can't even escape that cycle. America, Brazil, UK, Ireland, South Africa. Etc Again how are you typing this? What platform? Almost no platform is free. Both android, apple, HP, Asus, etc are all accused of the same thing. Are you completely self reliant on food? Even if so was there a time where you ever weren't?

@zolac9732

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonicrocks2007 This are the rules of the Omnipotent God we are talking about not man or a just a country. Or are you trying to say does parts of the bible didn't come from God

"The safe and loving environment of slavery". WOW. That guy has that statement on permanent record and has to live with that.

@jaycahuenga6416

8 ай бұрын

I spit out my coffee on that...if there's anywhere that any form of slavery and torture that "safe and loving" someone let me know where that even exists on this planet or in this galaxy 😅

Amazing how the Bible clearly defined the chosen people and the others as having extremely different laws and rules, yet Christians basically ignore it all

@jeffreylehman1159

2 жыл бұрын

@Atheist Deprogramming Did you even watch the video? What part of theology are you referencing?

@jeffreylehman1159

2 жыл бұрын

@Atheist Deprogramming So the Ten Commandments don’t apply? Come on, just because Paul didn’t want to keep kosher doesn’t mean everything else is off the books

@jeffreylehman1159

2 жыл бұрын

@Atheist Deprogramming Your last two quotes seem to contradict each other. How can you fulfill the law if you’re not under the law? And Christians don’t observe the Sabbath? What is Sunday worship about then? Of course it’s all inconsequential since God does not exist, Jesus was just a radical apocalyptic preacher (one of many at that time) and the Bible is clearly written by men and NOT the “word of God”. The Old Testament is full of evil acts directed by God, including enslavement, genocide, infanticide,etc. The New Testament is full of contradictions and was written by Greek speaking people who never met Jesus and had different ideas about who Jesus was and what his crucifixion meant. Sorry

@ProgRock-PigsDogsSheep

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 23:3 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. Romans 2:13 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey(A) the law who will be declared righteous. The biblical Messiah taught the Law/Torah

@ProgRock-PigsDogsSheep

Жыл бұрын

@Atheist Deprogramming Thanks for your answer. Without wanting to offend and be arrogant, I tell you that I don't need to read those verses again. I have studied the Bible long enough to understand on this subject. 2 Peter 3:15-16 15 And understand that the patience of our Lord is for salvation; as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom that has been given him, has written to you, 16 almost in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; among which there are some difficult to understand, which the unlearned and inconstant twist, as well as the other Scriptures, to their own perdition. The same Paul tells about follow the Law in Romans 2:13 Romans 2:13 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey(A) the law who will be declared righteous. Revelations 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Greetings

"be careful reading that bible, it's a dangerous book".

@starverdict3246

2 жыл бұрын

You’re an idiot 😂😂😂

@trollolololololol2361

2 жыл бұрын

God isn't immoral God gets to decide what is immoral. Morality is subjective without God.

@joppippoj

2 жыл бұрын

@@trollolololololol2361 LOLOLOL

Bible: hippity hoppity become my property Christian: well you see it’s very complicated

@Max-jf5vu

5 жыл бұрын

Well played!

@igamingmp1526

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Petersson: Well, it depends on what you mean by property. Is it women or a slave?

@KariPurpleField

5 жыл бұрын

LOOOOOL

@iamvickie9145

5 жыл бұрын

@@igamingmp1526 😂😂😂

@charlesswedenburg9449

5 жыл бұрын

No

God is omnipotent, but let's slavery go on when he "doesn't approve of it"

@sundayschoolflunkie3979

4 жыл бұрын

Given that this is the same god that nearly caused the extinction of all life because some humans didn't give him the worship he felt he deserved, I can see that.

@swordthrower2035

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, he did create all of those human and they were intentionally being evil towards him so i can see why he would be angry

@thanishdavipaul2876

4 жыл бұрын

@@swordthrower2035 ah yes a newborn baby being evil towards almighty god himself omegalul

@swordthrower2035

4 жыл бұрын

As soon as you are old enough to understand and make a choice to follow or to turn away from God is when it determines where you go. I believe that if a newborn baby dies then he goes to heaven

@thanishdavipaul2876

4 жыл бұрын

@@swordthrower2035 well what if the baby wanted to live ? what if the baby was god incarante himself?why take away to place where iam mostly sure none knw even if it exists

Love it how Christians can pull random Bible verses, out of context, to support any argument.

@bakedbeans5494

Жыл бұрын

That's atheists.

@BringBackStoning

10 ай бұрын

@@bakedbeans5494Hmm. Interesting

During the biblical times of slavery, I wonder what people’s opinions would be if a survey was done asking everyone if slavery is immoral.

It breaks my heart that a black man living in the US is defending slavery

@maxkrystal7403

4 жыл бұрын

samii those women are paid and it’s their job you fucking idiot

@gbcxroz3258

Жыл бұрын

In tears

@andreafelix1256

Жыл бұрын

he’s a c**n, I don’t feel sorry for him. He has a part in our oppression.

"But you just need to interpret it correctly! See, if you just ignore 95% of what the Bible says, it is all fine."

@rambofan334

5 жыл бұрын

More like ignoring 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%

@bobthabuilda1525

5 жыл бұрын

@Literally Nobody There is no sinful human condition. There is no sin!

@corywiedenbeck1562

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobthabuilda1525 foolish thing to say that there is no evil

@bobthabuilda1525

5 жыл бұрын

@@corywiedenbeck1562 Foolish thing to lie about what I said

@corywiedenbeck1562

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobthabuilda1525 what?

God can apparently erase all evil from existence: Also God: " Nah, imma just *regulate* it😌

@instrumentofdivinejustice4570

2 жыл бұрын

You cannot have good without evil. You cannot know love without hate. God wants you to love, not blindly follow. Do research and you will find out.

@MLamar0612

2 жыл бұрын

@@instrumentofdivinejustice4570 so your God, who I assume you believe to be all powerful, is incapable of completely erasing evil as a concept...... Or he just doesn't want to (which makes him a big ass dickwad)....... Or he actually can't and isn't all powerful Do research and take a close look at your beliefs..... They don't make sense buddy

@factsonly1486

2 жыл бұрын

@@MLamar0612 have you ever sinned before? If yes, if God decided to "erase all evil." You'd be included. All sin is evil to God. It's not that God can't do it. It's that God is merciful and patient to those who did wrong. If God were to give us judgement, anyone who doesn't have a relationship with him will be left behind and sent straight to hell. Does that help? Hell is worst than Earth cuz it's eternity and all sinners will have their part in the lake of fire, which is worst than anything we can experience on Earth. Once Jesus comes back he will judge. God will create a new Heaven and a new Earth to those who believe. He will end all evil in the end, just hope he won't include you in that evil.

@MLamar0612

2 жыл бұрын

@@factsonly1486 I've never sinned before because Ive never thought it has actually ever existed..... Sin TO YOU and many other people around the world believe sin to be what god doesn't approve of...... "It's not that God can't do it. It's that God is merciful and patient to those who did wrong."-🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ it's like you didn't even read what I said. God is capable of completely removing the concept of evil from the face of reality but allows it to permeate the planet because he's so "merciful" and wants to flex his "mercy". Do you believe god to be perfectly merciful and perfectly just?? Do you think it's right or just to judge people for what they were predestined to be or do?? Do you believe it to be right to punish those for not believing or for finite crimes here on Earth for all eternity?? Yeah, sounds like YOUR god is evil and massively egotistical 💀

@marcellofunhouse1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@factsonly1486 still no excuse to regulate it same with giving orders to moses to kill them and take their women as sex slaves

As a black African from a country which sold slaves, it is just so sad to see this guy defend slavery.

I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO UPLOAD YOU BEAUTIFUL 5’11 BEAST

@josed.vargas3961

5 жыл бұрын

@@guardianvalor962 a daddy

@MIKENIKEDOG

5 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigolinscaldas3305 They're saying that since he already has all these other great qualities might as well throw in another one, that being his tall height.

@maxhancock4953

5 жыл бұрын

Does he say that he’s 5’ 11” in the video?

@IETCHX69

5 жыл бұрын

Thinking Brain me too . Built an 8 foot tall , salty-ass robot .

@Muahaha651

5 жыл бұрын

Yakib he was gone for so long you converted to that cringe oh yea yea meme

"Armies of Bible scholars and theologians have for centuries found respected employment devising artful explanations of the Bible not really meaning what it says." J.S. Bullion, Jr.

This is my first time visiting your channel. Subscribed after watching this video!

@theillegalseagull6838

3 жыл бұрын

@Rrrr Pppp why are you here then? This is heresy and you're consuming it.

@alisonbaghurst8276

3 жыл бұрын

oh my! he reeled another in! rofl

@apeequipment

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch the rebuttal to this video you would unsubscribe him.

@starverdict3246

2 жыл бұрын

You made a mistake.

@justingary5322

2 жыл бұрын

You obviously have never read The Scriptures in their proper context for yourself but listened to Atheists interpret The Bible for you out of context to fit their own agenda against Christianity and keep your own confirmation biases

10:39 I see a mistake here. It says "leviticus 24:44-6" but there is not 44th verse in the 24th chapter of leviticus. The correct verse would be leviticus 25:44-46.

It’s the same with the Koran - one keeps hearing how he who takes a life kills all mankind, but he who saves a life saves all mankind, but the previous verse makes it clear that it’s only Muslims who must not be killed and the subsequent verse says non-Muslims can be killed for ‘mischief making’.

@xenoblad

5 жыл бұрын

It's kind of ironic that the biggest danger to a Muslim is another Muslim

@rockedwow7217

5 жыл бұрын

The subsequent verses says those who attack you.. Quran 2:190 says we are only to fight those who strive to fight us. But do not transgress. But do read from 190 to 195 Quran 4:89-91 also speaks about being peaceful with those who make treaty with you And the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) has said something about "Who ever kills a person who is innocent won't smell the scent of paradise".. So yes our Quran doesn't speak about killing of innocent... Just don't CherryPick and you'll see.. Anyways our Quran as well doesn't speak about slavery the way the bible does. Ours is more of Maid-servant relationship.. And we feed them what we feed ourselves, clothe them what we clothe ourselves and give them their property once we freed them... I bet I'm going to get like a million haters underneath this comment because they won't agree that Islam prohibits the killing of innocent and even apostate ☺

@rockedwow7217

5 жыл бұрын

And show me your proof if you're to be truthful ☺

@d_e_a_n

5 жыл бұрын

RockedWow So The Koran May not say to kill an apostate. What does the Hadith say? Isn’t this like what the guy in the video does? He points to a certain set of verses that applies to HEBREW slaves while completely ignoring the many verses that apply to non-Hebrew slaves, which were treated very differently. What does the Hadith say about how to deal with an apostate of Islam? And does the things the Hadith say matter?

@shanehull6235

5 жыл бұрын

Islam’s Denise the menace gets dark 😂

My god that was sad to watch, a black man so damaged by religion...….WTF

@captur69

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there's many like him out there...

@macumus

3 жыл бұрын

Exodus 21:16, “ He who kidnaps a man and sells him, or if he is found in his hand, shall surely be put to death.” Also Deuteronomy 23:15-16 which says “You shall not give back to his master the slave who has escaped from his master to you. He may dwell with you in your midst, in the place which he chooses within one of your gates, where it seems best to him; you shall not oppress him.” The verse clearly oppose slavery, the slavery that was allowed would be people selling themselves to have food and shelter for them and there families in exchange for labor, but if the conditions were too bad at all then they could just run away and you were commanded to give them a place wherever that they please with you. And no man could kidnap and sell a person lawfully without the death penalty- like modern day slavery.

As a Filipino teen who lives with pretty dogmatic family members, its pretty sad that I always feel paranoid someone might overhear or see me watching your vids. Your channel is still one of my go-to-listens on my spare time. Thanks, Alex!

@runicthor4105

Жыл бұрын

Have you been caught yet?

@felixflexin777

Жыл бұрын

Yow

@felixflexin777

Жыл бұрын

Kamusta

Somebody, pleasssse, tell me that this black man condoning biblical slavery is joking! 😢

@arushanioshaka5600

5 жыл бұрын

Nope mental slavery is real

@chipan9191

5 жыл бұрын

He's defending it by showing it's not slavery as we know it. It's basically indentured servitude, or as we would practice today, employment. The only issues he has are semantics. "they're called slaves." In the biblical Hebrew, that word could mean slave as we know it, but it merely only refers to one who serves. So it can refer to an employee employer relationship or a prisoner captor relationship. You need context to figure out which it is taking about. "they're considered property." Property in that context doesn't refer to having full rights to the person to do as you please. There are many passages which say "do not treat your slaves harshly." They had laws against doing them harm. What they mean by calling them property is that they had full rights to the fruit of their labor. The same is considered with land property. They called it property, yet they also acknowledged all land rightfully belongs to God. So the land was their property only in the sense that they had rights to the fruit of the land they worked. So these objections are merely semantics and don't get to the underlining meaning of the statements.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

4 жыл бұрын

chipan9191 You missed the beatings. In biblical times that meant the same as hugging. Don’t hug your employee properties so much that they die. Grrrr. Semantics!

@chipan9191

4 жыл бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 the Bible was an ancient document written to a particular audience that is culturally different from us. Using cultural and historical context in exegesis is the normal scholarly way to conduct hermeneutics. And the beatings were allowed for discipline but regulated such that abuse was prohibited. That can be seen in the text requiring to give compensation for permanent damage.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

4 жыл бұрын

@@chipan9191 Haha. Jesus H Christ.

Welcome back! Hope school is going well Alex !

@meller7303

5 жыл бұрын

Thinking Brain if we’re being specific, he goes to Oxford University* not college

@meller7303

5 жыл бұрын

Thinking Brain its a regional specific difference. UK/Canada tend to say university for what the US refer to as college. But they’re all still schools!

@walterwhite7554

5 жыл бұрын

@@meller7303 As a Canadian, I have heard some Americans say they go to college, and others say they go to University. Colleges tend to be smaller and focus more more on trades and skills. The U.S. has some of the finest Universities in the world, so why any students there would say they only go to college, I have no idea. But then I don't understand why they have allowed that orange haired orangutan to play and have temper tantrums for so long in the Oval Office either.

@meller7303

5 жыл бұрын

Walter White I’ve heard most Americans refer to schools where they learn trades as simply “trade schools”. A friend of mine from North Carolina mentioned this to me. Google “College Hockey” and you’ll notice the teams include Harvard ‘university’ and Colorado ‘College’. But both schools offer the same 4 year bachelors, not the 2 year program found at trade schools. College and university are used interchangeably in the states for the most part. Either way, it’s all just semantics. Colloquial use it is different for many words, and it doesn’t make that word better or worse, it’s simply used differently.

@user-uo5dc6xv4r

5 жыл бұрын

@@meller7303 Isn't it that universities are usually more focused on research than colleges, which focus on teaching?

Oh, thank you for putting so eloquently the ideas in my head and educating me allowing me to solidify my ideas even further!

The 7 years arguement doesn't make sense to me, as it's still slavery. If I enslave someone but release them after 7 years, that's still slavery.

@SamIAm-kz4hg

11 ай бұрын

Gee, you think? And this, of course, is what I see as being wrong with religion in general. It fucks up people's ability to think.

*It can't be only me whom notices the utter irony of an American black man defending chattel slavery*

@0816M3RC

5 жыл бұрын

Louis Gedo They made sure to get a black man to endorse this viewpoint.

@LouisGedo

5 жыл бұрын

@@0816M3RC Yes, it almost undeniably was intentional to select a speaker with a particular skin pigmentation.

@noahesmail3966

5 жыл бұрын

You use whom when it is any sort of object of the sentence, who when it’s the subject. (In the phrase “Who notices”, who is the subject.) if you were to say “by whom it is noticed”, that would be correct

@LouisGedo

5 жыл бұрын

@@noahesmail3966 Thank you for the correction!

@carterwood4197

5 жыл бұрын

*who notices

I’m visiting Oxford this summer! Alex, if you see someone waving, could be me

@stanleyjones1935

5 жыл бұрын

Noice! Go give me a handshake from a X-christian.

@katie6384

5 жыл бұрын

@@stanleyjones1935 A Pre-Christian?

@stanleyjones1935

5 жыл бұрын

@@katie6384 No U

@stanleyjones1935

5 жыл бұрын

@Optimus27 No Ricardo

If he was born in America in 20 centery he would also defend his owner lol

@snowdoll3778

2 жыл бұрын

He looks older than 19, so he WAS born in the 20th century. You must have meant 18th or 19th century I think. :D

@universecreator988

2 жыл бұрын

18th & 19th centuries ***

@starverdict3246

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus was all about love

@Azel002

2 жыл бұрын

@@starverdict3246 then proceeded to threaten people with hell if they don’t believe in him

@Joseph-fw6xx

11 ай бұрын

​@@starverdict3246jesus was a fake

Think it's about time they change their book title from "HOLY BIBLE" to "HOLY SHIT".

@TheSkepticBeingHindi

Жыл бұрын

Salute

Not to mention the prenatal enslavement of the child conceived between slaves, which falls nothing short of involuntary captivity. Much “volition” considered.

I am an Israeli Hebrew speaker, and the literal meaning of Exodus 21 16 is definitely the one you highlighted.

@DefenderoftheCross

5 жыл бұрын

Haha Guy. That's funny. "Trust my view of Exodus because I speak Hebrew." Nice genetic fallacy.

@SomethingLegit1

5 жыл бұрын

​@@DefenderoftheCross Errr no, it's because I speak the original language, and don't need to rely on any specific translation. Only those English speaking theologians play those silly word games with "this and that" translation. There might be disagreements about the meanings of certain words or confusing phrasing, but these debates are a lot more comprehensive once you understand the language, and can address them in the original text. I don't need to dogmatically take the word of a translator.

@keithwhitlock7021

5 жыл бұрын

Which is the Bible which follows the Hebrew text?

@SomethingLegit1

5 жыл бұрын

@@keithwhitlock7021 וְגֹנֵב אִישׁ וּמְכָרוֹ וְנִמְצָא בְיָדוֹ, מוֹת יוּמָת. "He who stealeth a man, and selleth him, (*) shall be put to death". (*) may be: 1. and is caught in the act 2. and he (the man) is found in his (the kidnapper's) possession I lean more towards #1, as it seems a more "correct" sentence in structure, and is more in line with the kind of language that the bible is written in. Regardless, apart from the "וְנִמְצָא בְיָדוֹ", the rest is straightforward.

@IDreamOfLogic

5 жыл бұрын

I am Greek. The first official translation of the Old Testament was in Greek. Then the Greek text was translated to all the other languages (fun fact: the Greek Orthodox Church claims that the Hebrew Bible is not godsend, go figure). So, the verse in the official Greek translation is 21:17, in the chapter "Laws about violence". And it says: ὃς ἐὰν κλέψῃ τίς τινα τῶν υἱῶν Ἰσραὴλ καὶ καταδυναστεύσας αὐτὸν ἀποδῶται, καὶ εὑρεθῇ ἐν αὐτῷ, θανάτῳ τελευτάτω. The person that steals one of the sons of Israel and dominates over him and sell him, if found guilty, will be put to death. The not-so-official translation to a bit more modern Greek, says the same. [Εκείνός που θα αρπάξη κρυφίως ένα Ισραηλίτην και τον βασανίση και τον πωλήση κατόπιν ως δούλον θα τιμωρήται με θάνατον, εάν αποδειχθή η ενοχή του.] The word steal (κλέψη) in Greek means "grab". You can steal money, but you can also steal people. It may very well mean kidnap. "If you grab one of your own and sell him as a slave, you are dead". Only men from other nations you are allowed to steal (grab, kidnap) and make slaves.

I'll only be a slave for 6 years? Gee thanks God

I'd like to add a passage that actually was mentioned here, but the specific part I'm interested in, was passed by - perhaps because it wasn't 100% on topic in that exact instance. How ever, I'd argue that whenever we're talking about slavery in the bible and the "benevolence" and "wisdom" christans ascribe to their god, as well as the distinction that's made in the bible between the treatment of jewish slaves and slaves of other nations and groups of people, this specific passage should be highlighted and put on the table for discussion. Now, my bible isn't one of the english translations (since I'm not english), but the verses and chapters are the same. I'll provide my own a translation from my language to english, but I'd sugest any one who finds this as interesting as me should go and read it for themselves in whatever translation of the bible they may prefer. Exodus 21:2-6 2. If you buy a hebrew slave, he shall serve for 6 years, bhut on the seventh year he shall be set free without paying. 3. If he came alone, then he shall be freed alone. If he was married, then his wife shall be freed with him. 4. If his master _gave_ _to_ _him_ _a_ _wife_ , and she's born to him sons or daughters, then the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and the man alone shall be freed. 5. But of the slave says: "I have great love for my master, my wife, and my children, and therefor do not wish to be freed", 6. then his master shall take him infront of God and put him by the door or the doorpost, and his master shall spike awl through his ear. He will then be his slave forever. What's noteworthy here is a couple of things that combined doesn't paint the prettiest of pictures, in my opinion. It's verses 4-6. First, note that it doesn't say that the slave has taken for himself a wife, but that the owner has "given to him a wife". Next, note that the wife and children isn't to be let free, they will continue to be the property of the slave owner. - Now contemplate the circumstances under which the man is offered to "choose" to stay a slave or to be set free. He can choose to leave his family in bondage and be on his unmarry way, or he can stay with his family. Now add to this the power of the owner: it is _he_ who's paired this man up with a woman. Regardless of the wishes of either the male or the female slave. Isn't that just a perfect coinsidence for a slave owner who has no real interest in being a slave short after six years? Then we have verse 6 that's just .... well, I don't really know what to say about it because it's not very specific, though at the same time earily so: This spikeing, or piercing, or skewering of the slaves ear. Read in my languange, it's impossible to know for certain, but the wording that's used indicates a practice that would at the least make the man deaf. Though it could, if one were to read it with a good portion of benefit of the doubt, as mearly a practice that would give the man a badly disfigured ear. No where does it specify the size or kind of awl that's to be used. Niether does it specify where or how the ear is to be spiked - are we talking about a minor prick in the lower part of the outer ear - suitable for an chick earring. Or, are we talking about straight in to the ear canal? Or something inbetween? As with the majority of this collection of texts that's called the bible, I find that the passages that actually give the case for gods benevolence and morality is far between and drowned in the abundance of the contrary. Yes, people tend to cherry-pick, but I'd argue that the amount of self-deceit it takes to cherry-pick in a poisoned orchard when there's a fully healthy one just one field over, is indeed not only unwise but indicative of something inherently harmful and unhealthy. To finish off: If anyone's taken the time and effort to read this far: Thank you and I hope you found it worth while! Also, I'd highly recomend you to read Exodus 21:7-11 (i.e. the verses following directly upon those mentioned above). In which we get to enjoy the benevolence of God towards hebrew women. Yeah ... benevolence ... or...? Thanks again to anyone's taken the time, and Cheers! =)

@xletix69

2 жыл бұрын

very good point!!

“God knew that the hearts of men were evil...” These, by the way, we’re the very same hearts he created. He created their natures, and also the means by which those natures turned the hearts evil. As a matter of fact, god himself testified to creating evil: Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV) 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Also, Christians say man has gone against the will of god, but turn around and say that everything is in god’s plan. How can Christians, in light of the Bible and Christian philosophy, NOT hold god responsible for slavery?

@angeldream1

5 жыл бұрын

The bible doesn't support slavery

@javeydones5163

5 жыл бұрын

aubrey Then why are there instructions on how to enslave people in the Bible? And where does it say slavery is wrong in the Bible?

@collinwalker550

5 жыл бұрын

God certainly creates evil, but it is not how you might think. God is the ultimate definition of "good", and without his existence, good and evil is impossible to philosophically or naturally justify. So everywhere that God is not, evil is. Simply by God existing, evil exists, and thus He creates evil but has no part in it. While God desires, all humans not to sin, to commune with, and to love him, he gave us free will to do the opposite. God gave us the choice to exist where He will not. If He is a perfectly good and just God, the only explanation for Him allowing evil (the rejection/absence of God), is because he loves us. When Christians say man "has gone against the will of God", they are referring to God's desire for that individual, not his will for the entire world in terms of progressing creation. If God exists as the Bible says he does (outside of this space-time universe), then this world and the entirety of the future was created in an instant and for all eternity. When Christians refer to everything being in God's plan, they (of course I don't speak for everybody because not everyone is on the same plane of understanding) mean that when God declares something will happen, no amount of fighting or resistance will stop it from happening. Regardless of our free will, what God has said will come to pass, will indeed come to pass through our free will, because from God's perspective outside of time, the future has already come to pass. He uses our freewill to accomplish his will for the world (not to be confused with his desires, also referred to as "will", for individual humans). This is also how he can have omniscience, omnipotence, perfect holiness (goodness), and perfect justice all simultaneously.

@GeorgeDEE78

5 жыл бұрын

Scroll back to the start in Genesis God said everything he created was "good" it became "evil" after.

@d_e_a_n

5 жыл бұрын

aubrey Your silence suggests that this is something you want to believe but have no evidence of.

"oh slavery is just symbolism" - So heaven and hell don't really exist, those are just symbols too? "No they exist for real"

I recollect hearing Matt Dillahunty debating a Christian who insisted that slavery back then wasn't "bad". He simply asked the Christian, would you be prepared to be my slave under those terms?

@jaebird3077

3 жыл бұрын

For real you are right. you could be fed well, housed in a beautiful home, given metal care and entertainment. However, as soon as someone is forced to stay anywhere, even a utopia, you are not free and will feel as such

I was told by a pastor slavery in the Bible was like jobs we have today.

@durendalarcas8209

4 жыл бұрын

please watch this response. kzread.info/dash/bejne/onmG1a6tk8y0mLw.html

@1moneyking

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@n1ppe

Жыл бұрын

I always beat the shit out of my employees with a rod

"Be careful reading that Bible, it's a dangerous book." Teach your children this.

@Timothi

5 жыл бұрын

I love your profile picture.

@luhei2230

5 жыл бұрын

No, its not. It is an interesting book with some great stories in it. (And some boring ones too.) My parents didn't give a shit, I read it, i didn't turn christian. It is a powerless book, if you just view it as what it is: A Book. Without all of the indoctrination that you need to turn someone christian it is not dangerous.

@elawchess

5 жыл бұрын

If you wouldn't let a 7 year old watch a horror movie, you shouldn't let them read the book of Revelations which I read at that age and it was as scary as hell

@chrissonofpear1384

5 жыл бұрын

Numbers and Joshua, too...

@JamesRichardWiley

5 жыл бұрын

People read the contradictions and stories of genocide in the same manner they would read a weather report.

The card game is amazing, this part of KZread is doing so much for everyone, fighting dangerous conspiracy theories, exposing dangerous cults and helping ex-members, while providing entertainment to literally milions. These things are what makes the world a better place

@beastmaster6486

5 жыл бұрын

@THE GREEK CRAFT I don't get it. Dude you can't expect people to understand you if you're that vague. Do you think debunking conspiracy theories such as but not limited to Flat Earth, Anti-Vax is feeding people lies OR are you saying that saying that God doesn't exist is feeding people lies. Also, I'm open to having my mind changed, so if you have something to teach, go ahead. If you don't and you're doing this for the sake of being a dick to everyone with a different opinion then I'll pay you 100$ and kindly ask you to fuck off *EDIT:* You said you wrote something but I'm not going to read 1000 comments to find yours so feel free to copy and paste it in this discussion

@beastmaster6486

5 жыл бұрын

@epitome Come on dude stop being a dick. You better not complain about him being intolerant of different opinions when you can't stand the fact someone is religious. I don't know where you're trying to get but it's not helping this discussion

As a black man, seeing what that brother saying is very embarrassing.

@flourishv

5 ай бұрын

the colour of our skin is the same, but we are not same. Im black but have 0 slave ansestory what does this comment even mean

14:15 It is not that "if they get up in a couple of days" it is actually "if it takes a couple of days for them to die, then it was not a direct result of the beating"

one of my favorite channels. beautifully eloquent and brutally logical

@durendalarcas8209

4 жыл бұрын

before you make up your mind you should listen with an open mind to the response. kzread.info/dash/bejne/onmG1a6tk8y0mLw.html

Never ceases to amaze how apologists lobby that the being with the most power should have the least amount of responsibility.

Fun fact:In my country(Russia)orthodox Christians refer to themselves and each other as “gods slave *insert name”. Heard this since childhood,but only now I fully realise how weird it actually is.

@pavlekovacevic5787

Жыл бұрын

What where?

@AHAHAHHAHA

Жыл бұрын

@@pavlekovacevic5787 In prayers.Like “blessed be gods slave *insert name” I’m not a good translator and I haven’t heard prayers in a long time but yeah that’s how it goes

"indentured servitude" is also what Ken Ham claims is the only slavery in the bible. Bull crap.

"be careful reading that bible, it's a dangerous book" truer words are rarely spoken.

@fancypants2182

5 жыл бұрын

Thats what hitler and all thoes communist leaders said see where that leads you

@mylerwilson4879

4 жыл бұрын

Though they done it as a way so people believe in their idea but didn’t want them to have freedom but with their idea

@durendalarcas8209

4 жыл бұрын

Please watch this rebuttal. kzread.info/dash/bejne/onmG1a6tk8y0mLw.html

@Jcewazhere

4 жыл бұрын

@Blue eyed Eurasian/videos Biblical morality: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXuZxbuGaLaXopM.html

@Jcewazhere

4 жыл бұрын

@@LordGigaChad69 It's down to 29% this year. Hitler and his party killed at most 20 million, how many have Christians killed? rationalwiki.org/wiki/Death_toll_of_Christianity It is good that that's the scariest book you can think of, if a little banal. There are far more dangerous books out there than Hitler's propaganda/journal. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZitzLCYqqa1j7A.html

He should find somewhere to spend 6 years in that loving environment. I am sure he would love it!!

You are an extremely good narrator, sir, thank you.

Just one of the IMMORAL THINGS THAT THE IMMORAL BIBLE ENDORSES.....

Ironic that a black man perftoming apologizics for biblical slavery

@JamesRichardWiley

5 жыл бұрын

No exposure to counter arguments = indoctrination.

@mwihaki.wanjoroge635

5 жыл бұрын

@@estherk5483 Lol Not black but black people.

@estherk5483

5 жыл бұрын

lulu haki I am black too FYI. If that is the only thing you took from the paragraph I wrote, okay.

Literally everyone is watching this in the future.

@zoomboom7937

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

I’m trying to be a Christian but it’s hard when the only thing you’re left with is a book, full of head scratching questions, now I’m agnostic

@samjebaraj24

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh , you should always see the other side of coin smh

@joshiewishy4966

Жыл бұрын

​@@samjebaraj24 wtf

But if you confront a christian, they will always say one of these 2 things: "Oh that was the old testament, god isn't like that no more" or the favorite one " You didn't read the context of it"

@barringtonwomble4713

4 жыл бұрын

So they don't quote Exodus 20:2 or Deuteronomy 5:6?

@trip_0106

4 жыл бұрын

Barrington Womble When you question a verse they say “you didn’t fully understand the context of it”.

@barringtonwomble4713

4 жыл бұрын

@@trip_0106 And most of the time you probably don't. And neither do they.

Any god who can command people not to eat pork and shellfish can devote some attention to forbidding slavery--among the many other things that a good being ought to advocate.

@PabloSanchez-qu6ib

5 жыл бұрын

@Leah Diamond worker? You don't seem to know what slavery means.

@PabloSanchez-qu6ib

5 жыл бұрын

@Phillip Hickman It is just a stupid question posing as false dichotomy and using the word worker to hide we are talking about slavery. So no.

@gregcampwriter

5 жыл бұрын

@Leah Diamond It would be better for a god to command his people to treat everyone decently. Then your proposed dichotomy would be unlikely.

@gregcampwriter

5 жыл бұрын

@Leah Diamond The part where that was addressed both in the Bible and the video.

@PabloSanchez-qu6ib

5 жыл бұрын

@Phillip Hickman Really? Are you that stupid?

They only say that the Bible doesn’t support slavery because the modern society doesn’t accept or support it 😂😂 They change and twist the interpretations of the Bible as they see fit... So oblivious and ignorant. I’m still watching by the way 😋😋😂😂

@spreadlove8624

5 жыл бұрын

Anal Jihad They don’t need to change it because all they need to do is to confuse people by misinterpreting it and there is no shortage of people who are willing to be wilfully misguided with no urge to question anything they were presented. They would condemn a man in a dress but they’re happy to be wilfully twisting the interpretation of the Bible on supporting slavery, simply because they don’t like it, when in reality a dress has no gender! It’s a piece of fabric! And it’s the fact! 😋😋😂😂

@Royalty-eb7xj

5 жыл бұрын

*BIBLICAL EXEGESIS BAD* *BIBLICAL LITERALISM GOOD*

@lostsnowman127

5 жыл бұрын

All you have to do is believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law. Boom. All of the Old Testament Laws disappear as they are transferred into Jesus. No more hating anyone, slaves, or all the Old Testament Greatest Hits of Bible Bashing. If the translation is not in error in the meanings of what Jesus did? Then any Christian who holds to the Old Testament as the Will and Law of God? Is doing it wrong. Thus the Old Testament becomes a reference document of the Old Ways and how things rolled - followed by the Reformer - and then the future that was meant to be had after the Reformation.

@seikoshinobaka9139

5 жыл бұрын

They do this quite often. They try using context and say it's unacceptable now, but then why do they condemn homosexuality or sex before marriage? Times have changed, haven't they? They only use modern society to benefit them and their morals, not when it affects other people. I saw a video by a channel call Girl Defined and they outright stated that braids may have been prohibited in the bible, but it's fine because times have changed. Again, it's only to benefit them.

@chrissonofpear1384

5 жыл бұрын

I would ask WHY the law was THERE in the first place - flawed as it seemed. Was it a Beta version?

Does anyone have info on the thumbnail for this video? I've tried searching for the artist (it's not really a black man caked in mud like an animal, right?) and the image itself. It's so moving, I want to know more about who made it.

Thanks CosmicSkeptic, but you made some untrue assertions in this video! First thing I want to say, this post isn't an attack on your character, I just want to point out some flaws in your argument. I hope you see these and they help shape your perspective! At 6:09 you claimed "thou shalt not claim ownership of other human beings" isn't in the Bible, but it is: [Exo 21:16 NASB] 16 "He who kidnaps/steals a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death. This verse is clearly talking about "involuntary slavery", selling a person or possessing them is straight up forbidden! This was also literally in the "pronouncement at Sinai" as you put it! Apparently the Sinai narratives go from Exodus 19 all the way to Numbers 10. At 6:35 you claimed that "there were no laws making sure that the victims of theft were properly treated". However, there are many laws/regulations regarding both the thief and the victim of theft, and how they should be treated. Exodus 22:7-15 is just one example of how the Bible contains regulations supporting victims of theft, this particular passage is interesting because it shows that even if the thief is not caught, there is still some support offered the victim. Again you claimed no such regulations existed? So to sum up so far, the Bible DOES contain at least one OUTRIGHT prohibition of slavery in Exodus 21:16. It also DOES contain many regulations in the case of either murder or theft occurring. Another key point: The Hebrew word that you have chosen to translate as "slave" is "ebed". Notice how it doesn't appear in Exodus 21:16? That's probably because it doesn't mean "slavery" at all! I'm under contract at my place of employment, I would probably be an "ebed" to an ancient Israelite (not a slave, a voluntary worker under contract). I don't own my place of work, I work for the people who do own it!

@toastmastergeneral3391

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@deanizzard210

3 жыл бұрын

@@toastmastergeneral3391 No worries! I'm glad someone actually read my disproportionately long comment!

I can't believe how Hitchens was reincarnated this quick. Happy Atheist Day!

@davidhatcher7016

5 жыл бұрын

lol

@davidkariu2330

5 жыл бұрын

Now just needs to up the charisma, smoke and drink himself do death

@Serendarainbow

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6GClNZ6esbYkco.html

You're very good at this Alex. I just went from a casual watcher to subscribing and hitting the notification bell. Keep up the good work

@skyeangelofdeath7363

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong. He is terrible at this.

@davidmoran4675

5 жыл бұрын

Did you two even watch the whole video? One by one he deconstructs the arguements and points out the contradictions of what the man in the video claims, and what the bible actually says. That's what he does in all his videos, using the bible itself to show how hideous the bible actually is... and the bible IS hideous.

Everyone has and continues to believe in varieties of slavery - labelling it 'prisoners of war' doesn't change that fact nor does sticking them in orange jumpsuits in cages in Guantanamo whilst routinely torturing them. Honesty is important in discourse.

It's illegal today. "Imagine if you were beaten by your boss" leads to him going to jail. You leave that part out.

@damienschwass9354

3 жыл бұрын

Of course slavery is illegal today. Does this really need to be stated?

@AnonymousAnonymous-fe9mx

3 жыл бұрын

Following the Bible isn't illegal today unfortunately

@megustaav

2 жыл бұрын

its ok, as long as you won't die in a day or two. My holy book told my its moral and totally ok. Its word of god.

That card game sounds like the nerdiest thing ever. I really want to try it.

@robyndaniell434

5 жыл бұрын

I want to play with others in the chat room during shows such as Talk Heathen while callers are on the air (as if the callers are unwitting Bingo callers with different statements that the chatroom participants then identify as fallacies and compete to debunk. I suppose the first person to debunk 5 fallacies can type "Bingo" or maybe "Rationality Rules".)

That black guy I don't know his name but I feel embarrassed for him as a black individual myself. He just don't have the skills

@rlinton123

5 жыл бұрын

@Mark Donald that black guy is an idiot. You don't hear his dumbass argument? My guess he hasn't even read his Bible

@vladimirjosh6575

5 жыл бұрын

@Ever Boy Well, viewed that video! Do you think he's debunked the arguments cosmic skeptic tabled?? Pls reply I wonder do his(Whaddo's) counterclaims stand.

@MeanOldLady

5 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirjosh6575 - Here's part 2 of his response: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aomVo5iHldCzo8o.html

@worl9830

4 жыл бұрын

He does have skills. You on the other hand, seems to be lacking in the brains department.

@worl9830

4 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirjosh6575 he more than just debunked it. You have to be a complete and utter moron to not see the blatant dishonesty of this cosmic skeptic bastard.

Sometimes you really wonder if these people hear themselves

@epic-zc3oo

3 жыл бұрын

Yep this athiest man is so smh

can't cut off my hair but i can own slaves, lit

This is a perfect example of how it takes religion to do, condone, or defend truly horrific things. It's stuff like this that has led me to respond to people who say: "The best trick the devil ever pulled was to make people believe he don't exists," with: "No, the best trick the devil ever pulled was to make people believe he is God!"

His shirt literally says “the beat”😂

@BenGrem917

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Agbonkpolor Did you spam this comment on *literally* every comment thread when you encountered this video? I really hope KZread bans your evangelizing no-better-than-a-spambot ass.

@aaliyahwright8284

4 жыл бұрын

look up what it means.

@jimlamanna7564

3 жыл бұрын

And then puts it into complete context you ignore, the heart with a heartbeat monitor on it...

@mykzalot

3 жыл бұрын

That's not funny

God certainly had no trouble making himself clear when forbidding other things such as murder, false testimony, eating shrimp, homosexuality etc, so why didn't God come straight out and say unambiguously "Thou shalt not own another human being?" Apologists say that slavery was an intimate part of society back then - but so what!? Murder, lying and theft were also common back then yet God showed no concessions for that behaviour. If slavery wasn't as "bad" back then as during ante-bellum America, then why did God see the necessity to make rules limiting the beating of slaves? This is just special pleading by Christians.

I figured this stuff out by the time I was 15. Started questioning when I was 8.

@ian_silent

3 жыл бұрын

It's great that you're questioning the Bible and the world around us... but I think Cosmic Skeptic might be wrong here. There's a great video about this exact topic. Cosmic Skeptic injects his modern interpretation of the word "slave" into biblical texts. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWqnttWod7HXlZs.html

@ian_silent

3 жыл бұрын

@Steve it's because the vast majority of them haven't actually read the Bible.

@manofgod7622

3 жыл бұрын

Ian Silent “he injects the modern word “slave” “ Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.” Yes the slavery from bible is not so bad, but it still isn’t a slavery you would expect by all-loving god, more likely from evil god.

@ian_silent

3 жыл бұрын

​@@manofgod7622 You're wrong. You're reading the verse completely out of context. These are the verses are directly after the one you quoted... "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth." (Exodus 21:26-27) This completely refutes your point. A "slave" who's treated wrongly must be released. It is wrong to assume that a slave can be beaten mercilessly and still be forced to stay. Now, about the verse you mentioned. In verses 20 and 21 the Hebrew word _naqam_ is used, which refers to the death penalty. Meaning that the verse is actually about the punishment that would befall someone who kills his slave. A life for a life.

@damienschwass9354

3 жыл бұрын

@Steve what do you mean "just came on the scene in 2000 BC"?! That's hilarious.

Jesus Christ... the level of mental gymnastics is astonishing.

I'm (NOT) going to read thru 4.5K comments, but I am assuming the (palm to face) irony of a black man defending slavery is likely mentioned / addressed about 4.4K times in this comments thread.

@caroleehubbard8380

4 жыл бұрын

Steve And your stance on that subject Steve is....?

@caroleehubbard8380

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Ahhh, ok! So why the hovering around Atheist sites? Do you have doubts about your faith? Are you looking for answers your religion can't answer?

When will you respond to what do you memes response to this video? It’s been a year

Love your channel 🔥🔥