So hexagons are, indeed, the bestagons. Even in spaceflight

@hchskxnbcj

2 жыл бұрын

You stole my comment

@lostpony4885

2 жыл бұрын

Good for curses too

@thiesenf

2 жыл бұрын

Bees: We know that hexagons are awesome... :-)

@spencerrussell2267

2 жыл бұрын

Civilization players agree

@dazperson8228

2 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it...

As an ex welder, two things-- first, stainless does take much higher temperatures to melt, but aluminum conducts heat hugely better, so you end up needing more amps to weld it. Not sure how that will affect things, I'm sure they thought of it. Second (and what I'm looking forward to see) is that stainless gets hot and starts making really cool colored oxides, way before it melts. It's not as colorful as titanium, but it can make beautiful blues and gold under the right conditions. So there's a chance if the heat and available oxygen are just right that it could turn partly blue or gold just past the tiles, which would be super awesome.

@jgottula

2 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s a good point, that would indeed look super cool!

@BRUXXUS

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even think of how the skin could change color from reentry. While, they probably don't want any part of it to get that hot, it would look super cool!

@TheSe7enman

2 жыл бұрын

Regarding heat conduction: This does not apply here as the heat is applied more or less uniformly to a huge and thin surface - the heat simply does not have anywhere conduct to - maybe except for a bit at the sides. Maximum temperature before losing strength is really the metric they want to maximize, hence the very specific alloy of stainless steel that they are using

@jgottula

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSe7enman I think it’s potentially relevant when thinking about how well (or not-well) Starship could handle the loss of a tile from its belly side: how efficiently can that exposed stainless steel area spread the extra heat around to neighboring areas and keep things okay; versus does it just heat up, become a hot spot, and melt through. Something like that…

@alesksander

2 жыл бұрын

Plus is not just heat its cryo regime also to taking into account.

"The booster itself rolled out with 29 engines on it..." Nikolai Kuznetsov nods in approval

@sonnyburnett8725

2 жыл бұрын

That reminded me of Soviet engine booster clustering designs as well. Back then, it was a technology issue compared with today and economics and efficiency but still, it looks cool I think.

@eurybaric

2 жыл бұрын

Sergei Korolev?

@UnshavenStatue

2 жыл бұрын

Sergei Korolyov would definitely approve of this design

@ceeam

2 жыл бұрын

@@eurybaric en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Dmitriyevich_Kuznetsov

@jamesowens7176

2 жыл бұрын

Korolev unfortunately had died before the N1 was built. Kuznetsov designed the NK-33 engine, which was supposed to be for the N1 originally. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Dmitriyevich_Kuznetsov

I never thought I'd see something like the Apollo program in my life time. I'm glued to every data source on this. Amazing times, awesome even.

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

Just a rerun of things we did long ago in the 1960s. Not exciting.

@majorphysics3669

2 жыл бұрын

@@Withnail1969 i mean come on. They're gonna land the damn things back on earth. It's pretty exciting to lots of people.

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@majorphysics3669 The Space Shuttle was landing on earth in 1980.

@majorphysics3669

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Withnail1969 but it wasnt the size of saturn v, and they didnt land the whole thing, and it wasnt a powered landing. You're comparing apples and oranges

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

@Kaileb McDonald Except we aren't doing those things.

Once part 3 of Tim's interview comes out, please please do a breakdown of all the new information. There have been some absolute bombshells in there, and I'm sure I didn't even catch all of them. The ones I picked up on were that they plan to stage it by spinning the whole stack in pitch. The Raptor runs oxidiser rich. Ullage is going to be used for thrusters. Return to a fuelling arm. New raptor teasers.

@MrGoesBoom

2 жыл бұрын

the fact that the Raptor 2 is gonna have more streamlined and simplified plumbing makes absolute sense considering not only how many engines each launch will need, but Elon's ultimate goal of having Starship launches be as regular as jumbo jet flights. Less chance of damage, simpler to just change out as needed, probably easier maintenance....right now they're still in prototype data gathering stage, and as seen by the way serial numbers have jumped, they're already way ahead of where they thought they would be. Such an amazing time to be a space fan

@gerrycalhoun9827

2 жыл бұрын

Raptor runs oxygen rich? It's a full-flow staged combustion cycle engine, surely it runs both oxygen rich and fuel rich?

@jgottula

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerrycalhoun9827 I believe you’re correct as far as the two preburners are concerned; but I believe Elon was talking about the main combustion chamber. I think.

@hermanrobak1285

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerrycalhoun9827 "[...] surely it runs both oxygen rich and fuel rich?" On a bad day, it may even run engine rich!

@hufca

2 жыл бұрын

​@@gerrycalhoun9827 The fuel-oxidizer mixture is slightly oxygen rich to avoid stoichiometric ratio, which would cause too high combustion temperatures and would damage the combustion chamber.

The cubesat was a great idea. The original arm was to do that on all the shuttle flights before re entry, but never happened. Why not use a $1k cube sat for exterior inspection on each ship? Makes sense to me. Would just need to back haul the camera and data to the starship, should be easy.

@Gaelztorm

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it definably sounds like a more useful payload then a wheel of Cheese.

@vmasing1965

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. And no worries with back haul, it's a digital era, you can beam the data (even in real time if you want) and forget about the camera.

@arik_dev

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch the 2nd part of Everyday Astronauts video though, Elon mentioned they're not going to install payload doors for the first 10 or so vehicles. He said this was because they would be improving the vehicles so quickly, that they wouldn't want to keep the tooling around for maintaining older models, as this is what happened with Falcon 9. And there was no point in putting doors on vehicles that would never fly real cargo. Now a cubesat is really small, so maybe they could deploy it in some other clever way. Maybe it could be stored at the top of the booster and pop out during separation?

@Tom-ku8bu

2 жыл бұрын

Just take an 360 camera and let it fly away herself. No need for complex expensive small satellite.

@HenkPoley

2 жыл бұрын

Only recently with Perseverance they had the technology.

Best channel ever. No begging for money, no hit the like button requests, no gosh darn sponsor crap, just Scott giving us great facts, news and space/technology info. Thanks Scott.

Much appreciated that Scott Manley made this video to give his perspectives on what is currently going on in Boca Chica!

Let's put it this way: Either it will make for iconic historic footage... Or make a really awesome explosion to watch for fun!

@barath4545

2 жыл бұрын

Or both!

@cheeseninja1115

2 жыл бұрын

explosions can be historical!

@elslick

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yup either success or rapid unexpected disassembly

@jimbob4456

2 жыл бұрын

Elon already said the first launch will be a success if it doesn’t blow up on launch regardless what happens after that.

@ponyote

2 жыл бұрын

Part of me is rooting for RUD ... but it is so very pretty I also want to see it actually fly. Time will tell!

I think Scott should get an award for shortest introduction before a top-quality video. If only other channels would do the same. 10/10

@kitemanmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Ever thought of skipping forward. Another idea with long videos is to play at X1.5 speed.

@ryanhalley1982

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitemanmusic ?

@daffidavit

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, and he doesn't use the typical "hi-guys" as many others do.

Wonderful to see Scott show genuine excitement at SpaceX progress. He’s no fan-boy & a tough taskmaster.

Can't get enough of Scott explaining all the important stuff in layman's terms 👍🤓

@eyemastervideo

2 жыл бұрын

Scottsplaining is much better than mansplaining,😃

@patrickhamos2987

2 жыл бұрын

None of this stuff is important. It's junk science like guys in the 1890s trying to fly flapping their arms. Manley basically does videos about guys flapping their arms trying to fly and reports on their progress....

@alastairward2774

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickhamos2987 yet you're watching and commenting.

@TheBooban

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickhamos2987 you’re implying that Starship won’t make it to orbit.

This is the most Kerbal rocket I have ever seen. Just the sheer number of engines at the bottom looks like someone just going nuts in the VAB with the symmetry tool ...

@kurtilein3

2 жыл бұрын

They know this is a good engine and are working on a major redesign to make it a very good engine.

@Jonassoe

2 жыл бұрын

It's like when your rocket is too heavy, so you just keep surface attaching vectors until it can fly.

@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307

2 жыл бұрын

they trusted a guy who failed at making a tunnel to do this, a man who failed at automated cars because he was stupid and used sonar for it! a man who delayed his battery powered trucks 🤦‍♂️🤣 by two years then three years and latest by four years! 🤦‍♂️ A man who is going to invent a robot to do your shopping etc within a year🤦‍♂️🤣

@surmabrander2244

2 жыл бұрын

@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 but finally, he succeeded. This is all what matters.

@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307

2 жыл бұрын

@@surmabrander2244 they trusted a guy who failed at making a tunnel to do this, a man who failed at automated cars because he was stupid and used sonar for it! a man who delayed his battery powered trucks 🤦‍♂️🤣 by two years then three years and latest by four years! 🤦‍♂️ A man who is going to invent a robot to do your shopping etc within a year🤦‍♂️🤣 So he succeeded in a heat shield for ship that hasnt gone to space yet. Which if it follows his track record.....

The white insulating blanket could also serve a secondary function in protection the tiles from the extreme cold of the steel surface when the Starship is fully fueled.

@Andrew-gd5jp

2 жыл бұрын

Reducing thermal shock on both ascent and descent maybe, though I’d imagine they’d get pretty cold outside the atmosphere. Unsure what ambient temp is above the Karman layer and in the absence of insolation (in shade).

@suspiciousninja1220

2 жыл бұрын

awe, its got a blanky

@ChayAaronStevenson11

2 жыл бұрын

How about the whole thing doesn’t exist

@etherealstars5766

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChayAaronStevenson11 Uhmmm, wanna go to Boca Chica and check???

@Jessev741

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChayAaronStevenson11 HUH??

Yes I completely agree... the accessibility SpaceX provide, the seemingly 'seat their pants' approach to design, the authenticity perceived at least re the whole operation as revealed in Tim's (Everyday A.) interview with Musk, is both fantastic & amazing...How is anyone supposed to get any work done when this is happening!!! 😄

@richardprice5978

2 жыл бұрын

that's how most of use at home do hot rods on a budget minded as i don't have NASA's power of spending like a dunk or the time to waste. now if i could finely finish my 7-speed transmission swap that would be a-some

The photos, the video, nothing does this justice - only that shot of the grid fins with the pad crew standing around them. Insanely huge.

I was completely with Elon when he said in Tim's interview, "I don't mind if it blows up, just PLEASE not on the launch pad" Seeing how long it has taken and the enormous time/cost rebuilding that would take I just thought, "Amen to that" He was like, yep, tens of millions of dollars for the booster/starship stack will be like pocket change to the cost of Stage zero.

@Malryth

2 жыл бұрын

Oh ya! Although I didn't understand "all" the heady chat. I did enjoy when Elon broke down how they go about design and showing he is not 100% certain but still willing to try. The fact Elon just focuses on problem solving instead of pimping his company is why I admire him much more than Bozos the showboat clown (you know who I'm talking about).

@FredPlanatia

2 жыл бұрын

so they will apply particular scrutiny to risks of explosion on the pad (i.e. a low risk-taking mentality for any such scenarios) where as other failure modes after leaving the pad they will be more flexibile to experiment

@JohnVanderbeck

2 жыл бұрын

I remember him saying the exact same thing for F9H. Really don't want to lose those launch pads!

@scowell

2 жыл бұрын

Stage 0 (launch infrastructure) the most expensive stage to replace.

@RCAvhstape

2 жыл бұрын

Wiping out its own launch pad set the N1 back a very long way.

"The blunter the body, the better for re-entry".... My body is a re-entry god!

@Double_Vision

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in shape! Round is a shape!

@Marc_Gagne

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@sahhull

2 жыл бұрын

That's what your mum says too

@CaptainPanick

2 жыл бұрын

Unless your body is so blunt you bounce of the atmosphere back into space. Believe me, I have tried, it is not fun.

@Marc_Gagne

2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainPanick Hi ALF! 🙌

I don't often find time to sit and watch full length videos(of any creator), but I am always thankful when I do for yours. Educational, informational, entertaining, and just refreshing. Thanks Scott.

Love the way this guy presents things it clear and precise easy to follow sit all the way through without distraction. With everybody's attention spans getting shorter it's good to find someone that can keep you engaged through the whole video.

the scale of this is HUUUUUUGGGGE. the workers at the cone look tiny. I saw the static Saturn V display, but wow!!! you produce a wonderful video Scott

@justinmurphy2227

2 жыл бұрын

You are so right! There's just nothing to scale to.....except the tower....lol! Buy OMG yes.....the people look so tiny!

@Restilia_ch

2 жыл бұрын

The Starship will have more habitable space than the ISS, to give another metric.

I am dying inside waiting for this launch. Excited is an under statement.

Hi Scott - thanks so much for the great content, and especially for balancing highly technical content with enough explanation for even non-engineers to follow along with the general aspects. I was wondering what your educational background is?

Thank you for another incredible video. The heat shield on Starship/Superheavy is of great interest to me, because it's such a critical system and hasn't yet been tested.

That cubesat idea was exactly what I was thinking. Maybe SpaceX could hold a contest for University Engineering Students to make this and the team that makes it the fastest and that works wins full ride scholarships for the remainder of their schooling.

@TwatMcGee

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't seem to hard either! Some high res cameras, cold gas thrusters, and a tether for data, and you could have a really useful inspection tool. Just reel it back in before you come down and its reusable too!

@JohnnyZenith

2 жыл бұрын

I also thought the same.

@broersenkees

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think the sat is the problem. It's getting it out there. If you've seen the interview with Elon Musk; he says they're not thinking about doors because it adds unnecessary complexity for now.

@simongeard4824

2 жыл бұрын

@@broersenkees Not a problem... as Scott said, just tuck it in somewhere in the engine skirt.

@CockatooDude

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwatMcGee Conceptual design is the easy part (although even then, what cameras, how reliable are they, what propellant source do we use for the cold gas thrusters, let's construct a plot for the performance curves of different propellant types, etc). Actually manufacturing the parts to spec, validating the parts, and making sure everything works nicely with eachother is where it can get incredibly difficult. Actually engineering something to work the best in a given scenario is often several orders of magnitude harder than thinking up a design that could work. This is the reason why I'm so impressed with SpaceX, they do an entire engineering project in the time it takes others to do an initial design study.

This is fucking crazy, I wish more companies/agencies would try new wild designs and methods like SpaceX.

@redbovine

2 жыл бұрын

Burt Rutan was cutting edge in designing when he was with scaled composites. He was ahead of his time with design. Some people wouldn’t give him the time of day because he was so far ahead. People get so stuck with doing the same thing that it’s hard to break the habit.

@paulmichaelfreedman8334

2 жыл бұрын

It starts with ousting the regular CEO (with no experience or knowledge of the product, just how to efficiently manage a company) and replace it with a truely die-hard (And likely with a diagnosis of Level 1 Autism) Engineer, who then also relinquishes company management to his XO. Then you will experience something akin to what happens at SpaceX. Gwynne Shotwell runs the company, company wise (Although she is also a fully qualified engineer and has her say in those things too). Elon does the frontier engineering, he has the power to get THINGS DONE without constantly having to debate it in a comittee. Tony Stark method.

@UberNerd

2 жыл бұрын

They've all become too risk averse.

@anguita119

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegood9 well... spacex can fail because they have money and it is a private project, compare the failure of falcon with that of starliner when falcon was destroyed everyone said that "you learn from mistakes and that the next time it will be better" but with starliner? uffff everyone criticized it," that they could not do anything well", "they are a shame and spacex can do much better" it is much easier to fail if you have billions to spend, and you can see the favoritism :)

@AdmiralBob

2 жыл бұрын

@@anguita119 Well the other criticism comes from boeing NOT learning from failure and just continually demonstrating it. And at double the cost no less.

As ever great content! One of the best covering SpaceX, thanks for your hard work 👍

When I watch this stuff my eyes glaze over in awe as I struggle to take in the engineering and construction challenges of these amazing machines.

The everyday astronaut interviews have been fantastic

Thanks for talking about the hinges. I've been wondering about how they're going to be protected during reentry

@Mr2winners

2 жыл бұрын

See everydayastonaut part 2 elon talked about metal seal.

@AbrahamSamma

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr2winners Awesome. Thank you.

@JohnnyZenith

2 жыл бұрын

No problem.

Perfect timing ! I was wanting to know everything about the heat shield thanks!

Such a great video Scott! Although many people would consider this (the Thermal Protection System) as a fairly mundane and boring part of the whole spectacular Starship/Superheavy system, it's arguably one of the most important, and most complex at the same time. I'm utterly fascinated watching all of the developments happening in Boca Chica being so well shown and documented by "Nasa Spaceflight" Lab Padre, and others!! Thanks again for a great video!!

Awesome engineering. Hats off to all the hyper talented people who are a part of this stunning project.

@sinenomine4540

2 жыл бұрын

It's not awesome at all. It's wasteful and inefficient. Dead end technology.

@kirinyardberry1324

2 жыл бұрын

@@sinenomine4540 lmao shitty bait try harder

@RenTheGreat

2 жыл бұрын

@@sinenomine4540 every technology is dead end until we find a better one to replace it lol.

Amazing how many times 420 and 69 come up in space x stuff, musk claims it is not intentional, I have my doubts lol

@crimsonhalo13

2 жыл бұрын

Elon Musk is a living, walking shitpost and he'll never turn down the opportunity to go for the lulz.

@grndkntrl

2 жыл бұрын

Well 420 *is* 10x the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"...

@barath4545

2 жыл бұрын

Booster 4, Ship 20 and the Booster height was 72 isch meters tall, but it had half a ring on top so they deleted it in the design phase, making the booster 69 "and change" meters tall. I bet it's 69.420 meters tall.

@crazylocha2515

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Everyday Astronaut's part 2 of the Elon interview, they do discuss the "numbers" thing. Also and mainly, both parts are a great look at the thinking and what is in progress.

@anthonypelchat

2 жыл бұрын

@@crimsonhalo13 He was born 69 days after 4/20. Are you saying that he willed that to happen? The fact is that sometimes it's him, sometimes it's his fans, sometimes it's his employees, and sometimes it's just plain coincidence.

I love this design. This is great engineering. Might have to borrow some of these ideas for my own projects.

What a joy to come back and see some up close pucs after watching the launch!

Your energy for this topic really comes through the screen well. Not too many people appreciate how tough this is.

The tiles also have a fixed gap for thermal expansion. Boil-off of methane and LOX will also cool the tank walls if they are venting while at peak heating. Musk himself said that getting off the pad and away from Starbase for the first launch will be a victory because rebuilding the infrastructure would be expensive and take time.

2:04 okay that's one of the coolest shots I've seen so far

I LOVE that I am watching this and you have Dune sitting there on your desk in the background just like I do.

"Blunt bodies are the way to go here ..." Elon: *hits blunt* "Well, let's see how blunt we can make it."

@ponyote

2 жыл бұрын

If there aren't Starship water pipes in a few years, I'll be surprised...

@iitzfizz

2 жыл бұрын

He's already said he made it more pointy on purpose lol

@willh2739

2 жыл бұрын

@@iitzfizz starship doesn't re enter nose first though...

@bertdemeulemeester

2 жыл бұрын

S 420 for a reason😂

@YawnGod

2 жыл бұрын

Elon has never smoked in his life, what are you talking about?

This is the most insane thing i've ever seen, i'll be amazed if it works the way they are planning.

Great video,, informative, good solid content and not boring at all. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you Scott! Could you please do a short episode on flame trenches and sound suppression?! I'm still worrying about the effects of so many Raptors firing so close, both to the launch stand & the ground, and also to each other. Cheers.

@HalNordmann

2 жыл бұрын

It has more engines than the N1. This can't end well...

@schrodingerscat1863

2 жыл бұрын

@@HalNordmann With modern manufacturing techniques, control systems and materials the N1 would have worked. It was just way too ambitious for the available technology of its day.

@StillAliveAndKicking_

2 жыл бұрын

@@HalNordmann Falcon Heavy has 27 engines firing at once, it ends well. Basically they have experience of large numbers of engines. N1 was underfunded, and they didn’t have modern electronic control systems. They’d also lost the lead engineer who had died of cancer.

@HalNordmann

2 жыл бұрын

@@StillAliveAndKicking_ But Falcon 9 doesn't have tank feed problems - the clusters of 9 engines use separate tanks, unlike Starship. And it remains a fact that small number of bigger engines is better than a large number of small ones - the N1 engines used small engines because they couldn't make big ones. Just look at Saturn V - that rocket was well funded, had decent electronics, living chief engineer, and they still chose to go for the big F1s.

@StillAliveAndKicking_

2 жыл бұрын

@@HalNordmann Well Falcon 9:has performed more reliably than many rockets of a similar size with fewer engines. Musk argues that using lots of engines makes sense, as it means redundancy, lose a couple of engines and Starship still reaches orbit. I’m not a rocket engineer, and I suspect neither are you. I can’t say what Musk’s thinking was. He may well have decided that having the same engines in the booster and Starship would significantly reduce development costs. But you can bet his decision was based on input from a group of highly experienced rocket engineers. My guess is that if they could solve the fuel feed for 9 engines, they can solve it for 27 or more. Just my uneducated guess. Best ask Musk.

2:15 actually Scott, going by the interview parts the Everyday Astronaut has posted so far, right now the grid fins on the booster right now are just plate steel, not stainless. Though Elon said in the interview that this would change and they will likely be able to drop the weight of each fin by a ton or so. Hopefully.

@blackhatfreak

2 жыл бұрын

Elon Musk is a liar

@TWFydGlu

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackhatfreak So what material is it then?

@Nitram4392

2 жыл бұрын

@@TWFydGlu Cheese. Duh.

@ripfire4

2 жыл бұрын

@@TWFydGlu Valyrian steel

@user2C47

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackhatfreak One also has to be able to tell the difference between telling a lie, and telling the truth and then having the truth change.

Thanks, this is the explanation I was looking for. Well done.

Awesome update Scott, and I Love the "Amiga Demo Scene" style outro B.T.W. (I know, there were similar demo scenes on many platforms back in the day :) )

@FLPhotoCatcher

2 жыл бұрын

The outro scene is much cooler than the intro.

Man I can’t wait to see this fly! This is absolutely amazing to see and watch be built.

Just as an aside, has anyone ever thought of a spray on heat shield? Come back from orbit and reapply over exposed areas.

@scottmanley

2 жыл бұрын

They tested an ablative paint type coating on the X-15, the problem is removing it and reapplying.

@LaughingOrange

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with this is that you would need to melt the heat shield or make it a cement. Melting a heatshield requires insane temperatures by design, and cement requires time to set.

@xWood4000

2 жыл бұрын

@@LaughingOrange What about an something like an epoxy and a solvent?

@riverground

2 жыл бұрын

Cool idea for sci-fi if not for reality

@Hello-vz1md

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottmanley what is your view on Anti starship Anti spaceX channels like common sense skeptic ,thunderf00t,etc ??

Episode dedicated to complete tile repair (R&R process specifics) would be interesting, as well. Thanks for this one.

Amazing episode, just what I was looking for! Thank you Scott!

Man I’m so hopeful for what starship promises to be. I really hope they can achieve the turnaround times and low costs they want

@CockatooDude

2 жыл бұрын

They engineered it from the very start with incredibly fast turnaround times in mind, it has been the most important design goal for this system since its inception (which I think was well before 2016). I have high confidence they will reach their goals.

@HalNordmann

2 жыл бұрын

No, the turnaround time is a total fantasy. In NASA's SPS study, they had extreme payload/time needs, but the shortest turnaround they could muster even with very optimistic technology assumption was 72h - so "back in a day" is unrealistic.

This is gonna be one of your classic vids. It was an awesome week and this is record keeping for the lead up to a momentous event.

Thank you Scott for the deepest discussion about heat shield thermodynamics for noobs like me on youtube seen - yet. Please make more of this, if you like. Also I wonder is it difficult to map the analytics about safety and cost against other options like "simply" using more fuel for deceleration? Best regards!

Love your enthusiasm... The numerous engines on the first stage (ala N1) make me nervous but I'm getting out of my cynical shell and starting to notice the feasibility of this professional organization and its StarShip.... Great Flying Good Luck 👍...

Been seeing the pics on Twitter. Really starting to.... sorta...grasp the scale of this thing. It's utterly bonkers! I'm half expecting just the sound of all those raptors firing to disintegrate everything within a mile. 😂

@Didymus69

2 жыл бұрын

I thought i got the grasp and then the pictures dropped..

@BRUXXUS

2 жыл бұрын

@@Didymus69 I think I'll need to see it in person someday to really understand. Like the Grand Canyon. haha

@z-beeblebrox

2 жыл бұрын

interestingly, at sea level all large (normal) rockets hit the maximum possible dB you can create in air, which is 194db. So although Superheavy is absolutely ridiculous, it won't be any louder than any other major rocket flying today. Just another one of those weird rocket things

@RCAvhstape

2 жыл бұрын

@@z-beeblebrox So hydrogen bombs and dinosaur-killer asteroid explosions can't get any louder than that?

@z-beeblebrox

2 жыл бұрын

@@RCAvhstape apparently not. Of course, as literally nobody says: it's not the sound that kills ya

Wow, did you really record this before Tim's part 2?! You really covered a lot of the ideas from that.

@aqeelraja4750

2 жыл бұрын

Scot even predicted Elon’s jokey idea of putting a camera in the tank sections and seeing if it glows red from reentry

@johnmclaughlin4778

2 жыл бұрын

@@aqeelraja4750 True, but not a joke. It's the best way of recording the location of a failure I think. There'll be no cameras on the outside.

@aqeelraja4750

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmclaughlin4778 it was said in a jokey manner but it’s a solid idea

@matwyder4187

2 жыл бұрын

​@@aqeelraja4750 But then they need a proper black box with its own heatshield, even parachute and make it float on water, because it's unlikely they get any usable bandwidth in the critical phase of reentry. Some maybe, but nothing close enough for proper video streams.

It's been an awesome week for viewing SpaceX stuffs

I really like seeing your defcon badge on the wall. It brings back good memories.

Great video as always, and I loved Tim's interview as well. Hey is that new closing music? I assume you made it. Very nice.

In the second part of Tim Dodd's interview, Elon hinted at the fact that they don't want to store all the prototypes once they are no longer needed and therefore if it blows up it's not that big of a deal, they need the data, not the vessel. So my guess is the first few suborbital or even orbital rockets will blow up.

@temper44

2 жыл бұрын

At the same time, if Starship 20 nails a soft and controlled landing near Hawaii, the images may be so powerful it kicks the whole world into space faring mode.

@Real28

2 жыл бұрын

@@temper44 it's win win. SpaceX will get their data even if it fails and they will get better. If it actually works, well then they have a lot less work to do and it'll set the world on fire with what they're doing.

@jaredgarbo3679

2 жыл бұрын

If you're rich enough I wouldn't be surprised you could buy it.

@simongeard4824

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, and I've been saying that for a while. People often forget that despite ending in a fireball, SN8 massively exceeded expectations - as the first serious test of the ascent and of the skydive, it wasn't expected to make it that far through testing, yet they were able to make a landing attempt on the first try. There's a reason SN12-14 were scrapped or never built, and why they didn't bother to fly anything after SN15 nailed the landing - they were far ahead of where they expected to be at the time. But my point is that just because that phase of testing went unexpectedly well, it shouldn't set expectations for the next phase. SpaceX allowed for no less than 7 attempts (SN8-14) to make the skydive work, 5 for the landing (SN15-19) and I doubt they're doing any differently for orbital flights.

@temper44

2 жыл бұрын

@@simongeard4824 The SN8 really was a paradigm shift in terms of rocketry. I have no doubt that engineers and scientists in Russia, China and Europe watched as all their research became obsolete in 10 minutes. The idea that you could glide a rocket into a propulsive landing just messed everything up. There is a video of youtube with a NASA engineer livestreaming the SN8 launch, and you could see the moment his brain switched from old space to new space, when the SN8 starts to free fall. It's wild.

Dang... I knew it was big, but I had forgotten that it's taller than Saturn V. This is VERY impressive. Well done, Space X! We are lucky to have you. I'm so pumped for this. Godspeed.

Love this Episode Scott. Very informative and interesting. Thanks 🖖🏽🤟🏽

“All the Designs are wrong, it’s just a matter of how wrong” -Elon Musk.

@ericlotze7724

2 жыл бұрын

Explosion larger than the N-1 and rivaling small nuclear warheads wrong...

@balaji-kartha

2 жыл бұрын

"Take whatever I say with a pinch of salt! I am usually wrong!" - Elon Musk!

@balaji-kartha

2 жыл бұрын

"I am not here to tell you to buy Tesla stock! If you are afraid of near term volatility please do not buy this stock!" - Elon to a stock trader!

@WackyAmoebatrons

2 жыл бұрын

Corollary: "All dates given by Elon are wrong. Multiply by 2 and take next higher unit." Launch within 4 months? Make that 8 years. :-)

@satoshinakamoto7253

2 жыл бұрын

well yeah you need to be closer to the fundamental truth of what's possible, that's common sense

First booster in history to need to visit a supercharger for the next departure. :-). Great video Mr. Manley

great post. thanks for the fine research

Scott, I don't know if you'll see this but I'll try. I sent this to Elon & Tim Dodds as he's pretty tight with the Rocketman. Starship has been experiencing minor tile loss during initial testing & I'm assuming that there's zero tolerance. I've worked for a major aerospace contractor eons ago but there are some low tech solutions that still apply today using the KISS principle. Why not apply a thin conformal coating of RTV like elastic substance over the entire area of protection? The elastic material could help retain the tiles through MaxQ & on to LEO. Heat on liftoff through to LEO would be sufferable depending on the material chosen by SpaceX. It could then burn away upon reentry leaving air pressure to hold them in place. Then a scrub down or solvent wash before reapplication of a new rubber, so to speak. Being elastic would help by spreading the vibration over a wider area, similar to ballistic armor principles. I realized that Elon would not be keen on anything that slows down his turnaround time but the application/reapplication process could be improved on rather than lots of engineering hours suffering through what the shuttle program dealt with. Cheers mate from a kiwi transplanted to the space coast. PS: I'm surprised that the other commentor could not determine your nationality from your name? Probably a pommie with a handle like spitfire, LOL

This thing is beautiful. And just to imagine how much work is being put into this... Amazing!

Incredible sustained speed of development by Space-X. Can’t wait to see those tiles work!

@jimbob4456

2 жыл бұрын

……………… Or not work

@jip5889

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbob4456 RUD’s are part of the iteration process 😂

@blackhatfreak

2 жыл бұрын

Speed? They stacked a joke.

@jip5889

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackhatfreak wow dude, I guess you have loads of experience stacking the biggest rocket in the world.

@artisticyeti22

2 жыл бұрын

@@jip5889 yeah he definitely is the smarter one here

Fastest 18 minutes ever! I greatly enjoy your content Scott, very informative and fun! Keep up the good work and remember "FLY SAFE"!

Great vid Scott! Certainly exciting times for science.

Kudos for supporting everyday astronauts great series of eloning interviews. For they truly were inter-views and expansive of the best practice and concurrent engineering behind the tech. Scott your right about Elon assenting to two or three of Tim's ideas. The power of Tom Peter's 80s writ on "management by walking around".

@FredPlanatia

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, Lincoln too practiced 'management by walking around' particularly during the civil war. He wanted information from as close to the source as possible. A strategy all leaders should keep in mind in order to make well informed decisions. Lincoln also had 'public baths' allowing pretty much anyone to visit him. He was particularly keen on and receptive to inventors, he knew the right technology if it helped the war effort (and shortened the war) could save lives. Elon also talks to different people well outside the usual radius (even a KZreadr dedicated to the topic of rockets).

@MrJest2

2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed over the years that a key identifier of truly intelligent people is that they don't presume to know all the answers, and are happy to entertain ideas from anyone. Could be an engineer, could be the janitor - you never know where a good idea may come from. And, of course, "Everyday Astronaut" Tim isn't just some joe-schmoe; he's been closely following space craft history and development nearly all his life. I'm sure if there's any "layperson" Elon would listen closely to, it would be Tim.

@jv-lk7bc

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJest2 or Scott.. ;)

I can't wait to see this thing take to the skies. It will be one of the wonders of the modern world.

Great explanations. Thanks

I have that same edition of Dune. Always loved that cover.

I'm getting some N1 vibes seeing all those engines at the bottom... let's hope they don't fail like the N1.

@vaikkajoku

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@billwollard8446

2 жыл бұрын

True, but one huge problem with the N1 is that the Soviets did not have the budget to test all of the engines on a test stand before flight. At least one of the N1 failures was due a loose bolt or screw that would have been detected if the engine had been adequately tested. Still, a lot can go wrong with the installation of 29 engines

@epincion

2 жыл бұрын

@@billwollard8446 plus the N1 was essentially an analog rocket with very crude computer controls by today’s standards and zero real time monitoring via a sensor network of how each engine was doing.

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

2 жыл бұрын

People who say that never know any of the details of how and why they exploded. No sim, no test fire of engines, no static fire of any stage, KORD engine management completely incompetent. Nobody thought it would succeed those flights. Damn Angry Astronaut spreading his half baked theories all over the place instead of spending half an hour fact checking like he used to. I think I'm gonna barf if I heat this N1 crap one more time. FH has 27 engines in a more fragile arrangement with three cores barely held together. One bad gimbal input and that stack breaks apart but where did all the OMG SO MANY ENGINES crap go about Heavy?

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

2 жыл бұрын

TLDR: KORD

The Columbia's damaged heat shield didn't just make us lose the Columbia, it also lost us 7 astronauts.

@augustinplagne7543

2 жыл бұрын

You never played ksp I can tell that

@jgottula

2 жыл бұрын

@@augustinplagne7543 😝 In fairness, Kerbonauts may be expendable; but we tend to care just a teeny bit more about humans 🤏😬

@rwboa22

2 жыл бұрын

We almost lost Atlantis on the Top Secret DoD STS-27 mission (second post-Challenger) that delivered the LACROSSE spy satellite into orbit. Tile damage was so bad to the point that the heat of reentry almost melted the skin, yet it was at a "critical" point that required steel reinforcement.

@jgottula

2 жыл бұрын

@@rwboa22 Yeah, those close-call incidents that you learn about later (the ones where you’re like “holy shit, they were losing hundreds of tiles on some of these launches and just kinda knew about it and nobody apparently thought this was a super-serious problem?!”) are in some ways almost scarier than the actual Columbia incident, because it makes you realize how much bigger of a problem there was than most people even knew. And it makes you realize how many more times, or times earlier in the program, we could have super easily lost orbiters and crews!

@jgottula

2 жыл бұрын

@asdrubale bisanzio I suppose I must grant that the astronauts themselves are generally not the subject of redesign or re-engineering programs after accidents 😝

1:48 - If you ever do a "rostrum shot" (i.e., a zoom / pan across a high-resolution still), remember to add a small amount of gaussian blur (typically 0.3 to 0.5 pixel radius), or you get shimmery pixels on high-contrast edges. In theory this wouldn't be necessary if the software used proper area averaging, but most "consumer" software just uses pyramidal or box filtering (i.e., it only looks at 5 or 9 pixels), which isn't great and really messes up edges whenever the source image has more than 3x the output resolution (sometimes even less, depending on the exact algorithm).

Scott! Just wanted to say: Lovely video! Great footage too! (You're awesome)

I would love to see a close-up of the tile mounting pins or even the receivers on the back of the tile.

@Double_Vision

2 жыл бұрын

Sure you would, _China_

@whitenoise509

2 жыл бұрын

@@Double_Vision 🤣🤣🤣

@Marc_Gagne

2 жыл бұрын

Why not watch this video all the way through!

The pics are just mind-blowing to look at. Looking forward to seeing it fly 🚀

Your reviews are awesome. Thanks, Scott.

Excellent as always!!

Seeing the business end of this is giving me N1 rocket vibes, hopefully this will be more successful

@snuffeldjuret

2 жыл бұрын

could it really get any worse? :D

I love the community attention to this incredible project. Scott, you bring such a great perspective and excitement. Love watching you!

Fantastic video! Thanks for the great explanation!

Elons thinking on the fly and his honesty and his scientific and technical knowledge is fantastic. The most pioneering human in history. The ultimate model or aspiration for us all. Nice video Scot, Marvelous tour and interview Elon.

I was thinking about a tile observer sat as well. There are tons of already existing cube sat models and this one would only ever need to work for a couple minutes. A single nitrogen pressure tank should give it enough propellant. They should be able to develop this pretty quickly.

@zrspangle

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly would make for a cool design competition, get some more publicity

@clarkkent7973

2 жыл бұрын

Will they be orbiting below the Starlink satellites? Do the Starlink satellites have cameras?

Tim Dodd and Marcus House and You, Scott... IMHO you three form an awesome triplet. Three different styles, three different formats, three different nuances in your point of views on the current events. There is something for everyones preferences in format and every timescale to get informed. Sometimes It really makes it easier to crasp and internalize some things to watch the material of all three of you of the same topic. Be that as it may... I really love your format and style when it comes to space history.

Your content is absolutely riveting, and wouldn’t be surprised if it was required viewing by everyone at Spacex.

I have some pieces of the first Starship Launch. I’ve tried damaging with with an oxygen-hydrogen and oxy-acetylene torch and both had very limited damage. Quite amazing

It's crazy how out of date all these starship animations get within months of release because the design is evolving so quickly

The progress at SpaceX is mind-blowing. I often find myself watching livestreams from NASASpaceflight channel. I wish i was a tiny part of Elon's Mars mission and this BFR- even just a welder or a handyman on the job- so i could be closer to the action, and witness history in the making (in person). Meanwhile: i don't mind being just a fanboy. I want to drive down to Texas for one of these launches. Love UR channel, Scott. Keep up the good work!

Excellent stuff bro

Again, an informative video. Thanks Scott. What do you make of the fact so many tiles appeared to be cracked after the stacking test? Is that a problem with the design or materials? Cheers

Scott - have you thought of doing a live KZread podcast when it launches ? Love your videos

The new outro is amazing! Great video as always, thank you for the close-up pictures. :)

So love the cubesat idea!! We'll call it the Scott Camera :-)

We love spacex & traveled to Boca Chica to the the starshing get built. & we got the S dual motor fsd last Christmas 🎄 😎 still have the cybertruck tri motor or 4 motor fsd on order.. i'm in TSLA too and have lots of solar to charge them both & backup battery system too

In our defense, we more savvy Americans know our use of "awesome" is lame. But we say it anyhow because we're so frikkin awesome we don't mind being lame. That's AWESOME. Also, thanks for the best rocket sciency space industry/science journalism. You're one of my 3 number one go-to sources. In other words, you're awesome! hahahaha. But serious thank you.