How Siege of Jadotville Lies, Alters and Distorts History
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Despite making a lot of edits this video is likely to be taken down very quickly so enjoy it while you can. It was originally supposed to be released on the 29th.
I watched the Siege of Jadotville for the first time since it was released a few weeks ago. I've read a few books since it came out and wanted to see if it held up... it didn't.
This isn't a comprehensive "everything wrong with" nor is it a "farb" review, this is mostly a collection of the stuff I complained about while we were watching the film (Because yes, I AM that kind of person.)
The battle itself deserves a much thorougher examination at some point, maybe I'll work on that. Anyway, this is a video, enjoy.
Oh, timestamps, people like those.
00:00: Intro
02:00: Video Proper
40:06: Outro
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If this video goes down, we know who's really to blame: *_The mining companies_*
@No.00000
3 ай бұрын
Those darn pesky capitalist
@edanridge3023
3 ай бұрын
I think the “mining companies” were blamed a lot because it’s easier for modern sensibilities to picture corporations involved in such neocolonial shenanigans rather than western countries, but ya nah lol the western countries, especially back, then right after decolonization, were openly fucking around and causing chaos in all their former colonies 😂
@CheezeSpartan
3 ай бұрын
Gyatt dayum wypipo and their minecrafts in OUR Wakandan Katanga 😡
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
3 ай бұрын
@@No.00000 yeah those pesky capitalists like . . . Taung Gold International Limited, Zijin Mining, Minmetals, Jiquan Iron and Steel (JISCO), East Asia Metals, and Sino Steel . . .
@Kolibri32searchparty
3 ай бұрын
It is written historical record that the CIA and Belgian government interceded to cause Lumumbas death. The Belgian and French governments had serious interests in Union Miniere. Obviously there was more local and Tribal politics at play but to say that big business hadn't a part in his death or the conflict is disingenuous.
Correcting historical errors in a conflict movie? My kind of entertainment!
@RevolutionaryResistance
3 ай бұрын
He gonna correct Russian MOD lies when?
@janko7245
3 ай бұрын
@@RevolutionaryResistance nafobot opinion detected
@LordVader1094
3 ай бұрын
@@RevolutionaryResistance TF you on about?
@GAMER123GAMING
3 ай бұрын
@@RevolutionaryResistance nafoboomer
@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378
3 ай бұрын
@@RevolutionaryResistance When NAFO was a good guy same as these Moskals?.
All these distortions and I'm just sitting here seething at the fact they've got multiple Katanga militiamen wearing M81 Woodland camouflage 20 years before it was even invented...
@MajorSamm
3 ай бұрын
I did originally write that down in my notes but decided I was already being pedantic enough. There's some DPM and 80s webbing kits in there too.
@brrrrrtenjoyer
3 ай бұрын
What's the difference between ERDL Lowland and M81 Woodland? They look practically the same. Maybe it's that?
@360Nomad
3 ай бұрын
@@brrrrrtenjoyer Lowland uses a smaller pattern and has a green tint. It also didn't exist in 1961.
@brrrrrtenjoyer
3 ай бұрын
@@360Nomad Oh alright, I see. Thanks for the reply.
@alwynvanwyk1851
3 ай бұрын
Spot on 😏😏🇿🇦
Disappears for a year and comes back with a forty-minute-long video. What a legend.
He lives! KZread Rule #1 - Creators are assumed dead if no content has been posted within the past 27 minutes.
@user-jc1cf9vs8s
3 ай бұрын
I guess he's dead again, RIP the best editor I've seen on youtube.
@Culversion
3 ай бұрын
He's alive!!! 😱😱
@Oboar
Ай бұрын
Well RIP he has not uploaded in 1 month
@Slavking374
22 күн бұрын
Unless it’s oversimplified
Don’t ever leave me again.
@ball3677
2 ай бұрын
Im at yo mamas house
@fkboyStalin
2 ай бұрын
@@ball3677 I'm in yo walls.
This has taught me more and more to Never Trust most T.V. Entertainment history, and how Netflix are liars. We live in an age where people only look at movies or so for history, as people don’t want to go through the effort to actually learn anything. Your telling reminds me also history is not black and white, and there isn’t really “Villains or Heroes”. Just people making choices and decisions.
@iivin4233
3 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. Directors seem to believe that people won't take their videos as historical fact because they themselves know their videos aren't historical fact. My hypothesis is that directors know from painful experience how difficult it is to produce historically accurate entertainment on a time, money and personel budget. Therefore, they find it hard to imagine that anyone would expect true historical accuracy from them. An author can just look it up and write it into his story that 1700s William had a coat with two dozen buttons and he considered it fantastic because his father Bill, owing to pre-industrialization, had a coat with only a few cloth loops. All that and most people automatically treat written material as fiction until proven otherwise. Meanwhile, the director in question had to personally sew 30 cloth lumps onto 3 jackets when his clothing designer got sick just so the close up shots could have some historical-ish jackets--in his 30 Years War epic seen my 20 high-school students. Knowing all that, directors might think, "How can people think our movie got it all right?
@opteko9567
3 ай бұрын
That's why all your knowledge about history must come from books and credited internet sources
@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378
3 ай бұрын
More on comic grey area characters.
@user-xw9uh7xu6k
3 ай бұрын
The truth was killed off a long time ago
@BlurmsBcKenzie
3 ай бұрын
@@iivin4233 That is some next level cope. Producers, Writers and Directors intentionally misrepresent both history and current reality to suit their bosses demands e.g. ESG
Indian UN Peacekeepers massacring Congolese civilians is something we were never taught here in India.
@axel665
3 ай бұрын
Didn't affect india or because it happened in 1960 and people forgot I mean there are other cases of un peacekeeper in war crimes but I guess since it happens in a poorly connected conflict zone in Africa it doesn't get talked about
@Sagalands
3 ай бұрын
Mr Bob (French) Africa Addio (Italian) Give them a watch!
@jakemocci3953
3 ай бұрын
It’s cool bro it’s the Congo
@Arjen_Jayrage
3 ай бұрын
We weren't particularly taught anything regarding the contributions of our army to any Peacekeeping force missions outside of Sri Lanka either. The Indian education system especially history is awful. But that's not why you study Indian history is it Comrade?
@brianhowe1982
3 ай бұрын
Japan still doesn't teach its students the accurate history of their involvement and actions during WWII. Communist China still sells the lie that Mao wasn't an evil fuck. Russia tries to not draw attention to the atrocities of Lenin and Stalin by lies of omission within their education system. The Pakistani education system still paints India as an unreasonable aggressor in their past conflicts. Governments will lie to their students for as long as possible, without admitting any wrongdoing.
oh sammy of course you'd return. love these kinds of videos btw, glad to see ur still interested in doing them despite the bad stats they get
I’m convinced Major Sam needs to make a multi episode documentary series on the Congo crisis.
@jonbest5205
3 ай бұрын
What "Congo crisis"?
@alwynvanwyk1851
3 ай бұрын
jonbest 😎😎😎???
@dukecraig2402
2 ай бұрын
I would like that very much, it's a part of history that's sparked my interest in the past few years and wherein there is some documentaries on it I'd like to see something done with his level of accuracy instead of the usual biases people tend to distort things with.
@wolfensniper4012
2 ай бұрын
Especially the Hammarskjöld conspiracy, i'm really interested in his take on this
@dukecraig2402
2 ай бұрын
@@wolfensniper4012 What's that?
I think my biggest gripe is that by saying ''it was all western resource companies'', while not entirely wrong (Katanga had a lot of support from UMHK) is terrible because it treats Katangese as somehow unable of possessing their own agency, with all of them being in fact done by the ''western mining magnates''.
@roberthartburg266
3 ай бұрын
It's an old technique used to paint things black&white. If the Katangese are shown to have agency, they also automatically share a part of the responsability for what happened.
@charliebeareuwu
3 ай бұрын
When people treat marginalized groups as incapable of fending for themselves, and that they’re helpless in the grip of “the white man”, it’s actually deeply infantilizing and demeaning. It’s almost as if it’s a fantasy made up by white people to make them feel like the saviours of helpless minorities…
@vandeheyeric
3 ай бұрын
I'd also argue that it is something even more insidious. The same people that do not think twice about that would immediately condemn us for writing off the Simbas or Lumumba as simply "They were all Maoist/Soviet Puppets." In spite of the fact that objectively they either were or became that. But of course, they were also more than that. Lumumba was no saint and probably did not deserve what happened to him (even if we want to argue he deserved death), but he was remarkably pro-Soviet and inflexible to the point of demanding a centralized Congo over the corpses and rights of others. Tshombe was indeed a corrupt, particularist plutocrat and tool of the Western mining companies and plutocrats, but he also was a decently capable administrator who was concerned about his region and its autonomous rights (if only for his own power), and certainly less merciless than most Reds or Mobutu. Part of what makes conflicts like this darkly fascinating is because the more you look the more you learn, and a lot of times there were not clear lines between "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys."
@charliebeareuwu
3 ай бұрын
@@vandeheyeric I’m sorry, the moral complexity of this situation is far too much for my millennial brain, please hand me a coloring book so I can color the good guys blue and the bad guys red
@nickmitsialis
2 ай бұрын
@@vandeheyeric I just have to add that if you're wondering what would have happened if Lumumba took power, I will just point to Ethiopia and the rise of Mengistu and his Dergue to have an idea---Stalin in Africa.
MajorSamm return is going to feed families
The wild thing about the movie suggesting the plane was downed by a Phantom is that the USAF didn't have any until after the event and the Navy unit that had them were undergoing carrier qualifications at the time.
I distinctly recall watching Siege of Jadotville back when it came out and my jaw hitting the floor at the sight of the F-4 Phantom, and all that it implied. Turns out I didn't know the half of it. Thanks for putting so much time and effort into setting the record straight.
@Cowboycomando54
3 ай бұрын
Which scene had the F-4? The only jet I saw was a Fouga CM.170 Magister, which historically was in service as a trainer plane modified for light ground attack in the Congo.
@Mr66D
3 ай бұрын
@@Cowboycomando54 It's shown rolling in behind Hammarskjöld's plane and is implied to have shot it down, as such the film is tacitly accusing the United States of assassinating him.
@DIEGhostfish
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the f4 was the one I caught, and the omitted armored cars I learned about later.
@willlasdf123
Ай бұрын
Yeah I saw that and was like "lol". If communism wasn't involved in the narrative, we didn't care. And the Soviets via the Cubans wouldn't for a few more years. If anyone smoked Dag, it was France or the Belgians, and the plane almost certainly crashed without interference. In general, most things in history aren't conspiracies, just fuck ups and chaos.
The insane part to me is how overt the historical revisionism is, because the picture you paint with just your NOTES on potential corrections ends up composing a much more politically complex and tactically tense situation, with uncertainty about reinforcements ever being able to clear the bridge and even demonstrating the want to keep clearing it under fire, the almost inexplicable twist of the mortars just not getting packed properly leading to the troops being unexpectedly under gunned, a much more urban setting making the idea of keeping the area secured even more improbable. Even the small notes of locals renting rooms to soldiers adds so much more to the very real and human events that occurred, and easily form a story worth telling.
An F4 Phantom did NOT shoot down that bloody plane.
@jakesoros2376
3 ай бұрын
Where did this conspiracy theory even come from?
@DogeickBateman
3 ай бұрын
@@jakesoros2376The UN’s own salt
@jakesoros2376
3 ай бұрын
@@DogeickBateman Wild
@axel665
3 ай бұрын
didn't the plane crash due to pilot error with the pilot mistakenly doing controlled descent into a mountain
@natowaveenjoyer9862
3 ай бұрын
Am I schizo for thinking the presence of the Phantom was the creators subtly implying that America killed Hammarskojd?
Great analysis! The intro part was ridiculous, when first time watching it I knew there was something's wrong because I watched the movie "Lumumba" (2000) before and the captures of him is much different. There's no ambush, he was captured before manage to escape to Congo-Brazaville with a boat then executed by firing squad. It was a great movie and worth to watch, describing the early life of Lumumba, independence, the crisis, until his death. Siege of Jadotville was absolutely ruined by classic hollywood dramatization.
@12vscience
3 ай бұрын
You may be interested in a documentary about the Congo/Katanga issue made at that time: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKqbpNiwlrqbdNo.html
@dukecraig2402
2 ай бұрын
Why is it that there's countless of you dunderheads all through these comments blaming the historical inaccuracies on "Hollywood"? Absolutely nobody or nothing from Hollywood had anything to do with the making of this film, it was an Irish/South African production. Here you are complaining about inaccuracies but you'll pump your share of them into things because of your obvious prejudices.
@dukecraig2402
2 ай бұрын
You're griping about inaccuracies but you'll blame them on Hollywood when no one nor anything from Hollywood had anything to do with the film, it was an Irish/South African production. So I guess we can start with that inaccuracy.
@chakalaka811
12 күн бұрын
it's a metaphor dumbahh
The Congo crisis is fascinating, but a bewildering clusterfuck as well
The legend returns! This for me is the first time hearing your voice I’m excited to learn history!
‘Blood On The Snow’ & ‘A Black Cauldron’ are my favorite conflict compilations of yours. Glad to see your back with some in-depth educational topics
Always a charm when you upload. Keep up the good work; I'm always excited to see new pieces from you.
@MajorSamm
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Jerry Seinfeld.
Very glad to see this. They should've made a film about the Battle of Elisabethville instead. Sikh UN soldiers fighting mercenaries, Gendarmes, and angry Elisabethville residents. Street fighting, airfields on fire. Would've been sick.
The big Man's back with a belter of a video. I Couldn't be happier!
This was quite a U-turn from what I'd expect from a video of yours, but this was a wonderful experience.
Good to see you back mate!, your content defined my 2021
Wow I never expected you to return with such banger documentary, awesome work man, God bless you
Elated for your return, please continue your work, as it's always a visual and scholarly delight.
Glad you're back! Love this video format 🙌🏿
The Legend has returned! Great video as always, and really important work. Never knew that the inaccuracies where this numerous.
Majorsamm my beloved creator has returned, love the historical videos fr, never stop what you enjoy man
Damn, I have most of the songs in your videos in a spotify list because I loved your format, and now you post a very well edited historical critique of a war movie. I'm here for it, loved this new direction. Also, those darn Mining Companies!
Great to see you back major. Well done, thank you for your amazing intellect and knowledge of military events.
33:15 Helicopters don't slide menacingly towards people after crashing trying to mulch them with their rotor blades, which is even more odd given the heli never crashed in real life.
@raymondyee2008
3 ай бұрын
And the actual helicopter was a H-19 but Netflix couldn’t get one hence the UH-1 as a stand in.
@I_Stole_A_BTR-80
2 ай бұрын
Aren't helicopter blades also mostly hollow, meaning that they'd likely just disintegrate as they repeatedly slam into the ground? (Or at least snap apart?)
@generaljackripper666
2 ай бұрын
@@I_Stole_A_BTR-80 Correct.
@dukecraig2402
2 ай бұрын
@@raymondyee2008 Yea, I can go along with there being a problem with major military/political plot points in movies like this, but when people nitpick about thing's like Fury having the wrong variant of Tiger tank, it's like get a life man, it's not like there's every different variant of Tiger's sitting around the countryside in every town for movie production teams to pick from and they didn't know what they were doing, it's quite obvious why they do things like that.
@SnorreSelmer
2 ай бұрын
It’s just an over-used Hollywood cliche at this point
Absolutely great video. I'm happy to see you back, mate.
I only realised it was after 40 minutes of video. Fantastic effort, and I dare say, worthy of many more in the same vein.
History buffs, Majorsamm edition. Welcome back.
I hope you do more of these breakdowns of historical movies. Historical breakdowns in general actually. I subscribed years ago for the music videos, but I was really pulled in by your genuine care for history and providing of it.
Thank you for uploading and giving much needed context for this film.
You never addressed that there is implication that Union Minière (THE MINING COMPANIES!) had something to do with with Dag Hammarskjold's death. They also transferred around 30 million USD to Tschombe's personal account. For a solid material it seems like it was happily overlooked.
@INSANESUICIDE
3 ай бұрын
I generally have little to no knowledge of this conflict, who was this Dag and what was his allegiance, and who were these French mining union guys?
@HankScorpio93
3 ай бұрын
Dag Hammerskjold was General Secretary of the United Nations. He died in a plane crash in neighbouring Zambia. The cause of the crash remains unknown.
@INSANESUICIDE
3 ай бұрын
@@HankScorpio93 Thank you, this time period and region is in a bit of a blankspot as far as my knowledge on history and politics goes. So I appreciate your aid in remedying my ignorance.
@neohyberboreantechnosteppe3185
3 ай бұрын
But why? Hammerskjold was going to negotiate a ceasefire. Why would Union Miniere want to stop that and keep operating in a warzone instead? It'd be like the French blowing up the German train as they headed to Versailles to surrender.
@mimir4965
3 ай бұрын
@@neohyberboreantechnosteppe3185 Who knows. Perhaps they viewed that by turmoil Tschombe would still hold reins of power. The implication was made by a son of UN worker in Congo.
Glad to see you are still alive. I like this video format, hope you plan on doing more like this in the future.
@MajorSamm
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, I've got a fair few ideas, it's just a case of finding the time.
Cool to see you uploading again!
nice to see you back man
Great video! Looking forward to seeing more from this channel.
Was missing your uploads for too long. This video compensates the whole year‘s holiday😅
Great video! Please do more of these. I have had your post notifications on for year
glad to see new content, this is brilliant
Good to see you're back, I really like this type of content from you and hope for more, but I still would like to see your normal type of videos.
I don't know about any of the other inaccuracies, but when I first watched the movie, I thought it was strange that the "sniper" specifically chose the Bren, an open bolt machine gun, to make a single precise long range shot. And a year or two later Forgotten Weapons made a video where the talks, among other inaccuracies, about that specific one and I gave myself a good pat on the back for that one.
What a pleasant surprise. Good to hear you again
I got all the way to the guy firing standing up without realising it was MajorSamm! I have loved your music videos for years so happy you're deciding to more Historical videos but talking!!!
You're back! Great to see you mate!
I am very glad to see that you are back from your hiatus.
got to be honest; distorting history in movies that pretend to be centered around actual historical events should be illegal. 90% of people are legitimately unable to distinguish fact from fiction if they see something in a movie. i've heard people say that salieri killed mozart. i've heard people say that the enigma code was cracked because """""every german message ended in HH""""". i've heard people say they thought band of brothers was a documentary filmed on location in ww2. the stupidity of people should be safeguarded, not exploited.
@Cowboycomando54
Ай бұрын
That is why they say based on a true story, not recreation of a true story. Artistic liberty, despite some times being used for revisionism and misinformation, is still protected by freedom of expression. To ban films like this would be a clear violation of the first amendment.
@GarfieldKartPMC
Ай бұрын
@@Cowboycomando54 people are obviously too stupid to understand "based on a true story". also "the constitution" gets violated CONSTANTLY, it has no value whatsoever apart from the phariseeism you just tried to pull. its writers might as well be from another dimension so alien is the current united states to their common sensibilities.
@hx20games77
14 күн бұрын
@@Cowboycomando54 Then u got films like Ridley Scott's Napoleon
@Cowboycomando54
14 күн бұрын
@@hx20games77 People have a right to make bad movies.
@hx20games77
14 күн бұрын
@@Cowboycomando54 but they have no right to change/manipulate history
MajorSamm is back with another excellent video!
Welcome back Major, good to see you.
YES!!!!! hes back, i love this guy, more videos like this my man, 10/10
I hope you continue doing content like this! Great watch
Glad to see you back!
I was just looking at your channel yesterday longing for your return.
Quite an interesting analysis. Since the Congo crisis has been mostly ignored by the film making industry so far, it seems even more tragic, that the opportunity to portray the events correctly have been wasted. Good work, Major! I will keep an eye on your content.
All im gonna say is that Quinlan was a fricking genius.
didn't know this was majorsamm until i went to subscribe and saw i was already subbed. love this guy
I’m ngl, I got through this whole video before realizing this was made by you Sam. Welcome back, thanks for another great video!
Thank you, MajorSamm, this was an eye opener. Took everything in with interest, as the movie did missed a few serious facts. ( ex - Paratrooper friend of mine's Dad was with ACoy at the time... Wish I was at the location of the movie shoot, just to liberate all those lovely old Land Rovers 😢😢
Glad to see you back Samm. Very glad actually
I didn’t even realize who I was watching for a sec, love the music videos Samm, but this rocks too.
I remember watching this when it first came out, and reading about the battle afterwards, and being perplexed at how they got it so incredibly wrong
Very interesting video and welcome back
2:14 which was backed by Belgian and American intelligence. With the CIA station chief being the one that told the Congolese troops to hand them over to the katangese
Hot damn, he's back with the pack of newports. Glad you're back.
This video is great. I understand it's a huge effort, but I think this kind of long form content suits you the best
I was getting ready for bed and was wondering if you’d posted anything recently.. Knowing it had been a year. Welcome back!
Filmmakers just have to know by this point they'll get called out good. Being a Veteran myself, I'd consider it an insult to misrepresent what I took part in, even worse the families of those who were lost!
Glad you're back!
Good to see you again, Samm. Keep it up.
Thank you so very much for your dilligent work. Am working here in Irl on a radio prog about Jadoville and this is excellent referance material.
Let me just say thanks for making this to set the record straight, I'm Irish and have a facination with our UN overseas history (Mostly because my dad and grandad were UN Peacekeepers, both served in Lebanon and my dad was in Chad and East Timor), though I could never find exact details about this battle apart from Wikipedia (An iffy source at best) and this film (Which clearly has some holes and flaws). I really appreciate your work, I've been a viewer since the Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner MV with the Italian documentary following the Mercs in the Congo. The latter of which I've watched and I have to say my favorite part is with the Rhodesian pilots Tom O' Keefe and Somerset Wilson providing air support for ground forces, on their forms before they took off they signed them with Destination: Hell. Reason for flight: Personal business.
@12vscience
3 ай бұрын
You may be interested in a documentary made at the time about the Congo/Katanga issue: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKqbpNiwlrqbdNo.html
Real world events should not in my opinion be made into films. Historical inaccuracies aside, the political and social considerations in these films are almost always done to portray a certain idea or concept that is currently held as one that was also held in the past. Such as the mining companies here. Everyone hates big corporations, and pointing out the bad they do is fine, what is not fine is heavily implying in a "historical" film that current era sentiment, actions or situations were also the same as the ones in the past. As stated in the video there was more to the conflict than "East vs West" or "evil corporation vs local government" that films such as this tend to claim. But that simplified world view is what many in the modern era hold, so these films rarely make an attempt to correct such a thing, and often lean into it. Rewriting history doesn't have to be a malicious action intended from the start, it can be simple laziness or a desire for drama that causes things to change. And films are from the start, about drama and action. Documentaries should be where the real stories are told and Hollywood (and whatever other major players) should stay far away.
@DogeickBateman
3 ай бұрын
The film is straight out communist propaganda and I usually never say this for films, even the most historically inaccurate.
@lollard68
3 ай бұрын
@@DogeickBateman How is it communist propaganda lmao
@DogeickBateman
3 ай бұрын
@@lollard68 Painting Moise Tshombe and Katanga as some evil junta controlled by Le Mining Companies (tm) who killed the glorious genius democratic leader, Patrice Lumumba when in reality, Mobutu did the couping and no, Lumumba made his intentions clear when his forces began targeting random Kantagnese among other Congolese not fit for his vision.
@n1kk10ch1r
3 ай бұрын
@@DogeickBatemanAre you doing okay? Tf are you talking about?
@DogeickBateman
3 ай бұрын
@@n1kk10ch1rWhoops guess KZread hated my reply which clarified why I called it such. Basically it was that the film portrayed Tshombe-Katanga as some evil corporate state when really it was a natural reaction to a dysfunctional regime. Katanga was not a saintly state but it wasn't what the film portrayed it as.
glad you're back man
My dear MajorSamm!!! (-: I am SO glad to see you are still alive and have posted once again! ~your most dedicated Afrikaner-American fan
Having worked for the UN in peacekeeping, I can say that the one thing the movie gets right, is that the UN senior leadership are untrustworthy, self-serving and vacuous. Many are career civil servants from small countries. If they are from developed countries, they have or realize they will fail to achieve the choice positions in their home country. The UN is their best 'second chance'. If from developing countries, working at the UN is the best paid job with the best pension they will ever get. However, this means they will never say anything that will risk their losing their job. Because they are from small countries, the UN, and for Europeans the EU, represent the best chance these people have for having a job with some real responsibility/authority - its why Irish politicians cream their gusset about the EU and UN. No one knew who Jean-Claude Juncker was until he became President of the EU Commission.
seeing you come back is so fucking good, even more on Friday!
Glad to see you back 👍.
The Legend has returned,we missed you mate.
24:00 RE: sniping with a Bren.. I liked The Chieftain’s rebuttal that sometimes soldiers believe & act on these things despite being told they shouldn’t.
The hero is back.
Hey man. I got into your content about two years ago and remember when you posted about making different content styles. I think i kinda shit talked you a bit, and I feel bad for that. On top of that, this is really engaging and interesting content. Glad you're still making vids and hopefully this is more of what you wanted to do.
really enjoy your documentaries
I like MS's histotical content as well as his music videos
It gave me a bit of a chuckle when in the intro the director asserts that if there was any dissent, the people who dont agree with the film have been very quiet, as if most of us knew anything about the battle beforehand.
Great video! I remember watching the film and scratching my head at a lot of it even though I was new to the topic of Ireland's involvement in the Congo
Hay, you are alive! Glad to hear you mate)
Finally, the man himself posts again!
This was an awesome video ! Good job.
fantastic video, very well researched.
I think, instead of having historical movies say "Based on a true story" or "Inspired by true events" (gotta love the wordsmith who came up with that) they should just say, "Historical Documentary" or "Fictionalized retelling". Very straight forward, black and white, educational vs entertainment. This movie would seem to fall into the latter category of entertainment.
I had a feeling when I watched this movie that it was a bit off but I'm glad you explained it
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this vid is criminally underrated, good job and while I've never watched you before, welcome back ,l I look forward to seeing more.
33:21 Just wanted to add, yes they never show the pilots again or properly tell us whether they survived in the film or not, Quinlan in the film does say "Get those pilots out of there", which does suggest they survived and at the very least, that they didn't forget about the pilots.