I have a pitcher background myself and I can say that when I started this sport less than a year ago I could already throw 400ft forehands, all this time later I think I'm still maxing out at around 320ft on my backhand and am dialing in on 450ft forehands. The forehand came natural because of my knowledge of pitching mechanics. This video was well put together. Earned a subscription from me.

@kevinmac2298

Жыл бұрын

Same exact situation for me. The mechanics of the backhand are a mystery to me and the forehand just feels natural

One of the absolute best tweaks to my form both forehand and backhand came from trying to delay the throw way too much. Chances are that you can't actually delay it too much but will instead manage to get better timing.

Good presentation man. Thanks.

Woooow♥️ Incredible forehand shot♥️

Great video! Ive been pondering this a lot as a new disc golf player. It may sound stupid but, but ive been throwing rocks, apples, balls - you name it, to a ridocolous extent. All starting with the duty of walking the familys dog on a boring sandroad with plenty of rocks and surrounded by distant radiotowers nobody i knew could even dream of reaching with whatever you were throwing. Doing this five times daily for 12 years led to a lot of throwing stuff throughout life whether it being tennisballs on the beach or trying to outdrive golf players throwing golf balls down the fairway. Naturally, Im able to throw discs forehand almoat three times further than using backhand. But since noone seems to be doing it in disc golf afaik, i wad thinking i must focus on backhands only until i can outperform my forehand throws - something I doubt will ever happen. This video made me realize that maybe there isnt a right and wrong way for everyone, that its more about the right way for each and one in relation to their own skillset - and that for me maybe its not a bad idea after all to really focus on forehands mainly.

Beast of a video ❤

it's important to note that Ryan himself doesn't recommend throwing the way he does, if your body isn't prepared for it. The amount of flexibility and mobility "pitching" like this requires is astonishing, and overreaching WILL lead to injury. Novice to AM players will want to get distance by throwing more understable discs instead. Also biasing the elbow closer to the body will reduce risk of injury. Slinging a 170g disc at an armslength away from your body takes a LOT more strength than keeping it close. It's all in the moment

Thats a well put together video

@rotadiscgolf

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Trevor!

I know Nate... but I disagree with the elbow coming in close to the body. Maybe for some people but I think the more lean your over while throwing the further from the body the elbow has to be. If you're throwing from an upright position, yes, closer elbow to the body is probably better.

Cool overview and highlight on Ryan. I didn't really get much of a breakdown of his form though which is the "how". Probably hip to shoulder separation felt way too vague but probably takes a whole video on its own.

I am a total noodle armed duffer noob and was fortunate to run into him and play some holes - he's a class act. He has some other videos on how you throw hard and prevent injury- 10/10 recommend.

One of my favorite players 🔥 next to JC Kester 💪🏻 Coming from a baseball pitching and catching background, I love how Ryan breaks down the advanced forehand mechanics. Something no one else does 👍🏻 Sadly Eagle’s mechanics did not work for me, and actually gave me my first real arm injury. I’m no where near as flexible as Eagle. I’ll stick to what works naturally. Scott Stokely has some great examples and metaphors. it’s another one I can’t replicate or emulate. I’m happy to get to a 450ft max without real learning experience. Looking forward to the next level and more advanced forehand out to 450-500+ft 👍🏻

Dude yeets.

I got an elbow injury just watching this and this isn’t even porn.

I have watched all Nate Eagle Scott and Ryan s forehand video before, but still don’t really get it. Ryan s elbow just doesn’t seem tucked in enough. Thanks for the well concluded video

@cameronnelson213

2 жыл бұрын

What you say makes perfect sense and having watched all the same videos they focus too much on the elbow placement. If you are coming new into the sport, have a terrible sidearm (talking James Conrad), or are restarting with your form it makes sense. If you have a serviceable forehand and are looking to add distance, 300-350ft to the 400+ ft range elbow matters less. The importance is to land on your front foot, bring your hips twisting through THEN shoulders launching your elbow and disc. The tucking of the elbow is to teach proper throwing to make sure you don't hurt yourself and to throw with your body vs your arm. Once you're able to do that and know how to throw without hurting yourself and taking strain off the elbow, elbow placement matters less. I should say becomes more adaptable. Like Clemons said, there are lots of different arm slots. If you want to throw like them, practice and rotate through your hips, into the shoulders and follow through with the body. This is my understanding of it and in no way can I physically do it to this level, I'm like 375-400ft forehand but I don't rotate through my hips well. Maybe this makes some sense for ya because honestly the videos, all of them, do a very poor job explaining what they're doing and why. Ryan Sheldon's part 1 video does the best.

@echoli2859

Жыл бұрын

@@cameronnelson213 thank you! Yeah you’re right, I think I start to understand using my body to throw instead of focusing on the elbow after I tried to not thinking of elbow anymore . Better hip rotation and timing is the key i feel ( at this stage) .

That dude is a fucking giant athletic monster, just look at him. No wonder he can throw that shit so far

Ryan never made it to a medium level of pro in baseball, and yet he is a phenom in disc golf. This should give us some perspective on how much farther the talent level in our beloved sport still has to grow.

@austinmoser5056

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, hes a phenom because of his forehand distance specifically. Not because of his competitive ability, he doesn't really compete with the top guys in all around game. I agree with you to an extent, but I dont think we have that far to go

@colestephenson901

Жыл бұрын

@@austinmoser5056 Yeah but you know he has the potential to get to that level. Dude plays one pro tour event a year and in the video has was leading a card of Earhart, Tanner, and Barsby. For an alternate perspective, what if Lebron James dedicated himself to being a soccer goalie. No one would ever score on him.

Hey Rota! I released a video one month ago where Ryan Sheldon himself explains his forehand mechanics. Here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paKZqJmSlqjXntY.html

@mitchelljasperdiscgolf

2 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@diabeti666

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Vid, love hearing it from Ryan himself!

@DiscGolfBroTour

2 жыл бұрын

We also have a video coming out next Tuesday with Ryan Sheldon and Jake Lauber where they break down everything in detail. Should be a fun one!

"Well into his 30s" 🤣🤣 30 year old dudes can't bomb discs/plates/baseballs/tennis serves/round ball Golf drives? 30 year olds are strong and explosive. Your tendons and muscles reach peak strength in your 30s.

@man0utoftime

2 жыл бұрын

Your 30s is when things start to fade. There's a reason most pro athletes are retired by their early 40s - and that includes the fact that some sports that rely on technique, knowledge and strategy allow a competitor to compensate for their aging body. Not many pure speed and power athletes competing in their late 30s. Signed, a 40 year old guy.

@crimsontide1980

2 жыл бұрын

@@man0utoftime not necessarily, it varies by person. If a person's strength or throw velocity declines by his mid 30's, most of this can be chalked up to time playing said sport instead of just things automatically going south just because theu turned 34 or 35. Just like someone who got an early start at baseball, threw extremely hard at a young age, and racks up over 200 innings pitched every season. His velocity may start regressing by age 26 or 27 because of wear and tear on the arm, muscles, and tendons. A 38 year old major league reliever may see little to no decline in speed because he only throws 2 innings here and there, gets to rest his arm up for 6 or 7 nights before his next appearance. It's not the mileage, it's the wear and tear from the mileage.

@crimsontide1980

2 жыл бұрын

@@man0utoftime and don't even get me started on Nolan Ryan 🤣🤣🤣 let's just say he's a freak and athletic anomaly. He was throwing upper 90s at age 46. Nobody should be able to do that lol and it'll probably never happen again. He defied all the laws of nature and biology. Could throw 150 pitches in one night and go pitch again on 2 days rest

@man0utoftime

2 жыл бұрын

@@crimsontide1980 Cope harder, as the kids would say.

@crimsontide1980

2 жыл бұрын

@@man0utoftime ok

What discs is this guy using ?

3:01 holy crap it looks like his fckin arm is broken

I have a friend who has a beastly flick. Maybe not quite as far as this dude, but he's eclipsed 500ft a few times. Similar mechanics for sure.

Well into his 30's...

He looks like Popeye's nemesis 💪

@rotadiscgolf

Жыл бұрын

Had to look this one up, but it’s pretty spot on 😂 Would be an amazing Halloween costume for him

@videosverigenu4621

Жыл бұрын

@@rotadiscgolf lol ye 😅

Well into his 30s 🤣. Oh man, I'm old.

Only thing wrong with this video is you kept saying 'one of' lol it's THE biggest

That looks like it hurts so bad

@Postermaestro

2 жыл бұрын

it doesn't

@jrkierstead2635

2 жыл бұрын

I play almost exclusively forehand, never had any significant injury in nearly 20 years. Don't try to do too much too quickly, build it up over time, and you'll be fine.