Arsenal is a great name for a series that cover the developments of armaments of the Trek universe. This could be a very interesting series indeed. 👍

@eddierudolph8702

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts it is the perfect name and time for this series.

@ChairmanMo

2 жыл бұрын

It is a very British name! Perfect!

@somestormchaseridjitwithwi2024

Жыл бұрын

We need more episodes of Arsenal.

Might also explain why them phaser cannons on ships like the Defiant were so powerful. They didnt get tamed down as much to be a "Jack of all trades" type of weapon and retained that "pulse" shot similar to the original phase cannon tech

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Whilst still employing the new techniques of phasers like boride crystals which increased their yield beyond what a phase cannon could do.

@miamijules2149

2 жыл бұрын

Good point Leon; makes sense bro

@josephcontreras8930

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't ion cannons or ion torpedoes be more effective? Look at star wars movies.

@Acrosurge

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephcontreras8930The power systems aren't the same. Star Wars tech appears to use conventional, electrical conduits. Starfleet uses an EPS system, magnetically shielded conduits carrying plasma. Presumably, this allows Trek ships to travel through intense EM pulses and fields (like solar prominences and ion storms) without disruption of power. I'm skeptical that Star Wars ion weapons would be effective due to this disparity.

@josephcontreras8930

2 жыл бұрын

@@Acrosurge thx 4 the in depth info.

I've been to the laser lab here at the University Wisconsin Madison and you'd be surprised how effective a laser that delivers all its energy in a fast pulse can be at exploding matter. The experiment done showed them explosively vaporizing the top layer of a sheet of metal to show a very effective method of etching metal quickly. Imagine what kind of explosive effects a fast pulse laser could have with Starfleet tech.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Nice. I always thought lasers burned/melted their way through targets.

@Vaatrad

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 When using lasers to heat things, cut things, vaporise things, etc., what's important is intensity, in both space and time. For any given amount of energy, a greater effect will be achieved by delivering it onto a smaller area (a tighter focus) and by delivering it in a shorter amount of time (a faster pulse) - the issue being the ability of the target to dissipate the heat energy being delivered. Achieving an ever tighter focus and an ever shorter pulse is key to the ongoing development of laser technology. Though, as Brobastic Broham mentioned in another post, pulses created in rapid succession could be indistinguishable from a continuous beam.

@pouncerlion4022

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Thanks to physics lasers are a series of wonderful contradictions. While a tightly focused beam can produce great penetration it will usually effect less of the target and probably wont' do as much damage. Want more damage, widen your beam to affect more of your target, but now you get less penetration. Want better control spread the energy out over time, want more damage shorter time. In the end the user comes up with a compromise between control, damage and penetration.

@kennethgibson456

Жыл бұрын

It's like anything. Same energy just a pulse will deliver all that energy in one go whereas a beam will deliver the same energy but over time. Always the argument with sci-fi weapons is say a 10mw beam for example be silly as I would rather hit the target with 10mw of energy in one go for bigger damage than 10mw over 5 seconds... explosion v burn

@matheuscerqueira7952

Жыл бұрын

Remember that lasers widen with the distance, so at certain range it will lose that kick, which comes into paly in space battles

Interestingly the out of universe reasoning was that Roddenberry learned that lasers weren't expected to have the kind of properties that were called for out of the ship and crew's weapons. At least he took that in stride and did a handwave to a new type of energy weapon that was purely fictional. I definitely wouldn't give STD credit for correcting or adding anything to do with continuity. All it's ever done is muck things up worse even than Enterprise did. "Arsenal" is also a great title. Kind of evokes "Arsenal of Freedom" with that comedic twist of Picard and co. putting in a huge order for weapons.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

No I certainly wasn't crediting DISCO with anything other than getting it right in season 2. I like the idea of arsenal of freedom

@barrybend7189

2 жыл бұрын

I would have just thought that lasers and phasers are one in the same. As to a layman they look the same. As the Cage is an odd television experiment and the fact it was kept is weird as it was never done that way for other shows until Babylon 5 with their pilot episode.

@thehillbillygamer2183

Жыл бұрын

Could you make a video about the federation terrarian war Jeremiah Rosa stabbed Captain Picard those people his adopted father's people the terrarians

Overall this does indeed seem like a reasonable theorical conclusion for the development of Starfleet phaser development that also abides by & rectifies much of the difficulties of Star Trek continuity. Indeed a best of both worlds. For name ideas in case you want to change it from "Arsenal", the word "Ordnance" is an option.

The way I see it, Phase Cannons were slapped on to existing ships and power grids. These things needed their own isolated grids, power source included. Half of what I remember about them was blowing out plasma relays.

This video has also given me another thought. Starfleet should really have had kinetic weapons for it's anti-Borg fleet due to Borg ships being weak to kinetic weapons. Relatively infinite ammo can be created from replicators that are an integrated part of the launch system, and can be used side by side with remodulating phasers.

@TimothyChapman

2 жыл бұрын

Plot hole!

@davesobani9565

2 жыл бұрын

The borg have deflectors like any other warp capable species. The fact that they have transwarp rated deflectors would make any physical projectile worthless.

@Clenched.Cheeks

2 жыл бұрын

The Borg Subspace/EM Field repels anything it recognized - matter or energy.

@cpt_bill366

2 жыл бұрын

Starfleet has always had kinetic weapons in the form of torpedoes, and they are effective against borg. Replicators are the worst plot hole in all of ST though

@shanenolan8252

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea

You should do Plasma Torpedoes next. There's enough there between Romulans, Borg, etc to do a short on it.

So this technology would have had to been developed on Andor, to stay in continuity. Remember, "they were happy to share the phasers". Also how about "Trek tech!" Or "this week in Starfleet". Something I just thought up. Love that technical detail in these videos!

@TimothyChapman

2 жыл бұрын

I like that. "Trek Tech" would allow the series to expand beyond just weapons.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Likely the 1st phasers were based on andorian designs. Explaining their blue color.

You should of also went into to pulse phaser canons of the 24th centery defiant class

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Could do that I a future video

Cheers. Yes Klingons had photon torpedoes in enterprise season two . Malcolm had never heard of them . Episode with the Klingon raptor.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they would have an advantage in torpedo tech for most of history.

@luispanaderoguardeno3306

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 And the only logic explanation that I found why the Klingons not conquered the Federation on his early years, it's they was very busy fighting against another unknown power and/or internal conflicts every few years.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

@@luispanaderoguardeno3306 yeah. The orions and their vassals. Not to mention the distances in that era.

Nice. Very insightful.

I liked that lasers became Phasers in FASA. I never understood why Enterprise used Phase-Cannons. That's something I would like to see a FASA dedicated original series. I do like Enterprise, but there were deviations. And I always hated how 90s and 80s trekkies loathed FASA Star Trek and treated it as non or beta canon.

bruh 🤯 ur a genius my dude lol ur explanation was crazy valid and realistic 😅 awesome content thank u

I really appreciate you showing the picture of my favorite ship the wasp right up next to the Daedalus

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Got a real soft spot for it myself

Next Time On Arsenal, The Difference Between Phasers and Disruptors... Only Bad Guys use Disruptors. Seriously, there have been times when the exact same weapon has been described as both a phaser and as a disruptor, mostly on DS9, in relation to Bajoran and Cardassian weapons, usually when one or the other was allied to the main cast at the time its a Phaser and when its in the hands of an enemy, its a Disruptor.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the cardassians vary In use. The only one that's consistent is the dominion polaron phaser.

It does fill some of the continuity holes. And I like this idea better than the relabling that the original series writers and producers did.

we possible do see lasers used in enterprise, in some of the early episodes we see enterprise fire some form of directed energy weapon (such as the one used to ignite the ships plasma exhaust in episode 5) before it gets it's phase cannons installed episode 12

@davidossantosschroeder

8 ай бұрын

Aquilo que eles usarão no episódio 5 era um torpedo.

I definitely want to see more of these. I like good well thought out head cannon like this

Arsenal is a great name for your video. You are a true man at arms or Gillette as I read about in British naval lore.

I would expect that the phase cannons we see in the discovery era on ships like the discovery would have the ships designated as brawlers and skirmishers. I also think that it would provide an evolution of the constitution class, I think that in the discovery era ships like the discovery and Nimitz class would get right in the Klingons face while the constitution acts as the federations artillery ship of the time using its hard to make photon torpedoes and traditional phasers to deal damage while ships like discovery and Nimitz would keep them away from the constitution classes. This works for because I would imagine that the constitution’s phasers would have a much longer recharge. Then the federation found ways to make the recharge on phasers quicker, so the federation starts to make them the standard weapon in the fleet which it is by TOS. It doesn’t really fit it with the continuity and the four years war, but that’s just my head cannon of its evolution.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

I like it. And given the aggressive nature of the klingons you need some heavy ships to block them off as well as faster ones to protect the flanks

@rustypowers5316

2 жыл бұрын

Nerd

@rustypowers5316

2 жыл бұрын

Nerd

Always wondered why not masers? Nice work

@luispanaderoguardeno3306

2 жыл бұрын

Like Space 1999 ?

I must admit this is the best phaser explaination I've ever heard.

Very intersting video !! I love that you use the magnificient Nemitz class in the thumpnail :-)

Arsenal is the perfect name for this.

Great breakdown!

Yeah. Nice line of horse hockey. I can get behind it, whole heartedly. 👍

great Information!!!

That was a really amazing video I like the name Arsenal, it would be great 2 C a video about the development of the photon torpedo

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely on my agenda.

@ussvoyager8650

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Ok Cool

As for name for the show... Ordinance Report? Phase cannons being physical projectiles does answer how the nx can fire them at warp when the u.s.s couldn't.

What projectiles phase cannons r firing. Projectiles are solid objects phase cannons r directed energy weapons that fire pulsed nadion charged particles. Particles are not considered solid objects

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Particles are more 'solid' than say photons which are either particles or waves depending on how you feel that day.

The bigger debate here is really how serious or strictly you take TOS, especially within context of ENT. Enterprise blew up a lot of old canon, but it was generally done well and jives better with chronologically later series. Moreover, the old canon had some serious problems and contradictions indicative of all Sci-Fi newborn series that were still figuring themselves out at the time. I think that Venom mentioned something like this before regarding the old version of the Four Years War and introduction of phasers on one hand versus Axanar with the Ares and Constitution classes on the other. I personally like the view of treating older canon reverentially but not literally especially in the context of continuity errors. So I consider those mentions of lasers to simply being mispoken words. Not perfect, I know, but some compromises have to be made. All this aside, I really like the evolution of phase weapons from short ranged blasters to long range tools with multiple purposes, one of them being to vaporize your enemies.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah in FASA phasers and photons are the game changer. While in Axanar it's the Connie and Ares. Why not both to some extent.

Phase cannons are a particle beam weapon with a annulus of laser light. As you said they are short range because of the particles in the particle beam “leak out” causing a reduction in effect on the target at longer range. Lasers actually due spread out reducing their effect on the target. Just try a laser pointer and you will see this effect. Phasers actually blend the particle beam with the laser reducing the spread of the laser and keeping the particle beam compressed for longer range effects on the target. Phasers also fire a tuned particle beam. For longer range the particle stream is neutrally charged preventing electrostatic repulsion from spreading the beam. If you are using a phaser on stun the particle stream is made up of electrons to overwhelm the target’s central nervous system stunning the target and this would cause a “stun” shot would have a corresponding reduction in range.

I read in a Trek tech manual one time that phasers were developed when they were experimenting with different types of crystals that could be used to power warp drives. One crystal produced a concentrated field of disruptive rapid nadeon plasma when energized. It didn't take Federation engineers long to tune that effect and develop a brand new concept of weapon/tool from the results. The phaser is completely unrelated to lasers or phase cannons, is far more efficient and powerful, which is why it replaced both. You're thinking of the Babylon 5 Omega Class Destroyer beam. That weapon is a combination of particle beam and laser. Phasers are a completely different thing and are actually a type of efficient disruptor. Far more efficient and compact than the Klingon or Romulan versions because all you need is a crystal focusing chasis hooked up to a power source, where a "Type III" disruptor chasis is a much larger and more power hungry piece of equipment which uses anitmatter particles instead of rapid nadeons.

@paulwhite6745

2 жыл бұрын

But if phasers are so much better than disruptors, why doesn't everyone use them? Disruptors must have some advantages otherwise they'd be obsolete.

@poseidon5003

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulwhite6745 I should have been more clear. They were testing SYNTHETIC crystals. Not everybody can synthesize those. You also need a phase emitter. The only common part with a "phase canon" that it uses.

@poseidon5003

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulwhite6745 Furthermore, the races that already had 100's or more centuries developing their disruptor tech, would be starting from scratch with phasers.

This is great stuff.

Arsenal is an excellent name for this series.

I do wonder if the Lasers were kept for a Point Defense System- using lasers in the 4YW to detonate Klingon Torps en route seems like a good thing (to at least attempt)

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I'll cover it later but klingon torpedoes were significantly more advanced for a lot of history.

Arsenal is a perfect name for the series of videos 💪💯👍

Better name idea: The Armory. Like: "Welcome to Venom Geek Media, and to the armory"

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

What copy instillation 00?

@aiosquadron

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Hmm... Just noticed that. Maybe something different then... Like... The Weapon's Locker?

Arsenal works. Good idea for a series

Hello Venom. I mostly agree with your deductions about the evolution of weaponry seen in Trek. Especially the Phaser. What really rankles me is the sad excuse for ranges. really... 10,000 Kelicams? The Klingon equivalent of Kilometers? ONLY 10,000??? That isn't even Short Range... it's point blank, 'can't miss' range. And yet, Ships fail to hit one another with their weapons at such tiny distances!! a bit of perspective for those 'not in the know'... ONE Light Second, the distance Light travels in One Second is just barely shy of 300,000 kilometers (299,792 Km per second). So a range of 150,000 Km is NOT really all that far, and both long enough to target an enemy vessel, AND get back a 'hit or miss' result in half a second after firing. So, it takes your weapons beam half a second to get to the target and hit or miss it, and half a second to 'register' the result of the hit or miss. This is a tactically workable range and timing. Remember, a signal light, radio wave, targeting laser, or any other 'non-FTL' communications method would take a full second for the 'get there, bounce back'. And thus a full second to search for, and find anything within half a light second of the emitting ship. I feel that Starships and Warships would be firing upon one another at multiple Light Second ranges, using predictive algorithms to 'hit' their targets, and any confirmation of hits would take a number of seconds equal to the range at Light Speed for non-FTL sensors to 'see' the results. The farther you are from your target, the harder it becomes to predict where they will be in the few seconds needed for you weapons beam to reach the target, and an equal number of seconds will be needed to 'see' the hit or miss result. The only weapon available that could fill this 'slot' is the Photon Torpedo. Which can be fired out to such ranges and explode in an 'area effect' mode of damage to target. So, by my 'logic' Beam Weapons would have ranges up to 2 Light Seconds (4 seconds round trip), and Torpedo ranges would be anything from 'point blank' of around 50,000 Km to as far out as a Half of a Light Minute, or 30 Light Seconds (1 minute round trip to 'register' the results of the shot). So, to try to preempt the incoming flames of outrage, I acknowledge that the ranges were kept VERY short (The 10,000 Km ranges) to allow ships to be seen shooting at one another to make space battles 'interesting' to the viewers, and allow for ships in combat to occupy the same frame while being filmed. Having said that. I object to anyone that wants to cite 'hand-wavium' Tech of FTL Sensors for combat. If you have THAT sort of Tech, you don't NEED to get into such short ranges as I've described to hit your target... you can see, fire, and register hits in microseconds at any practical range, including several Light Hours! (This would obliviously be way beyond ranges were two ships could see each other and be close enough to film in the same frame). If you are going to rationalize such 'Sci-Fi' weapons, at least acknowledge Real Physics for ranges and targeting, at the very least! A 'modern' ship could fire Cannons at such piddling range (10,000 Km) and register hits in as little as 30 seconds, using current predictive algorithms! Firing weapons which travel at the Speed of Light at ranges of 10,000 Km would be like saying you have .50 Caliber Rifles, firing super sonic rounds, yet shooting at Paint Ball ranges! Sheer Madness!

@aiosquadron

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Trek ship usually fights at point-blank range... Which is stupid.

@miamijules2149

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe 1 Kilikam = 1000 kilometers or 10000 kilometers and a standard Kam = either 1 kilometer or 10 kilometers or 100 kilometers?! Lol come on boys…. we gotta make this work

@franksmedley8619

2 жыл бұрын

@@miamijules2149 Now you're reaching. To someone not familiar with distances in Space, 10,000 kilometers sounds like a large distance. But to those of us with at least a modicum of knowledge about Space, 10,000 kilometers is a piddling distance. We can agree on that at least. The writers for Star Trek are NOT all that familiar with Space and it shows. What they ARE good at is telling stories. And besides, I already mentioned why the ranges are so short... to keep the ships in the same frame when shot by a camera, because the common viewer is not educated enough to know the difference. And because the 'shot' of two ships facing off is too iconic not to use in a space series. Even though the true distances would mean that such a 'face off' would be highly improbable, and utterly senseless.

We do see precisely aimed phase cannon shots in enterprise. When enterprise had to disable the sulibon stealth cruiser. In that scene the cannons are used like a scalpel, inflicting very accurate disabling strikes.

This is an opus to particle weapons I love it.

In Axanar, the Andorians provided the phasers (Prelude to Axanar) There appears to be a bit of a disparity.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Not at all. The andorians could have designed them.

We see several times in enterprise the phase cannons hitting a specific target or point with pin point accuracy.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

But that would be at much closer engagement ranges. We also see it miss a lot too.

"Up your Arsenal!" >D

@rogerauger7766

2 жыл бұрын

Got my Vote! :D

Bat'leths next?!

When I was helping with ST origins (a logn time ago, now). I got very similar conclusion about fleet standardization and how tech evolved. However, I had another solution about the continuity problem with Enterprise and TOS first pilot. I thought that "lasers" not are actually true lasers. Because they could be using "lasers" as a contraction of "phased lasers". And here, "phased lasers" are something between the phasers of TOS and the phaser cannon from ENT. Phasers, evolved more this and the nadion emitter become something more integrated and compact, compared the huge thing that it's a phased laser, that we can see on The Menagerie episode. However, my solution don't account Discovery (And I will never try, as I on my head cannon Discover is another different parallel universe)

with the laser to phaser retcon from the cage to tos proper I give it up to the idea that the weapons are one in the same as there's always changes from the pilot to any series. so while it says laser in the Cage its really a phaser they are using. plus any energy beam weapon can be classified as a laser weapon its just disruptors and phasers have different properties that differ from the other laser type weapons.

The Four Years War- or whatever Klingon War you say happened at this time... *eyebrow*

Nice video on a interesting subject and a good way to try to explain why lasers were used by starfleet. Yeah I like the name Arsenal. I thought up Roddenberry Arsenal, Aberdeen orbital Arsenal. Or big ass space guns and BBQ pit emporium

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Roddenberry arsenal. Boy that would have him rolling.

@warhawk4494

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 I know right. Hahahahahaha considering how much he hated how they turn star trek books into "space westerns" where kirk just shot everything and didn't talk it out. And I know he would have hated deepspace 9 dominion war. Muh federation doesn't use violence it talks its feeling out. Lol but feel free to use that if you can work it into something. Have a good day.

"Guns of the Galaxy" maybe?

Actually they didn’t mention ship weapons in the cage. The had hand lasers and portable field laser cannons they could beam down.

I like this series! 👍🤪

love the name keep it

You could call these segments Pew Pew Corner.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

If I was sacred cow.

One complaint on the visuals, at approx. 12:05, the picture shows a Soyuz class firing phaser beams from "turret-like" hardpoints. These are NOT weapons, they are sensor suits for deep range exploration and scientific missions. The little golden domes seen in pairs along the inner portion of the saucer hull (one set is between the ship name and registry number) are the actual phaser ball turrets which come standard on all Starfleet vessels of that era before the implementation of the "Phaser Strips" that are first pioneered on the Ambassador Class.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Just a little fun artwork. And them being sensor antennae is just what starfleet wants you to think...

'The equipment Deck'.

Balance of terror Spock said "Earth Romulan war was fought with lasers and nuclear weapons" I dismiss enterprise as it doesn't belong in the main time line.

Personally, I usually headcannon that, like you say, that Phase energy and the lazer both exist. Except I like to think that the Phase cannon came first; worked decently for the era it was in but was eventually replaced by the standard lazer, or even a Phased-lazer. Even when lazers were mentioned in TNG as being pathetic compared to the weapons at the time. I still think of them as being better in some regard to Phase energy, to sort of keep in line that the early 23rd century used them before Phasers. Definitely an interesting take on your end though, great video as always. Unrelated note though: Vulcan Plasma? I was always under the impression they used a form of either Phasers, or Phase energy. Unrelated note 2: In the pilot episode of Enterprise, we actually do see the Enterprise firing Lazer cannons from where her future Phase cannons would be equipped... four or five episodes later.

@krishurtz4084

2 жыл бұрын

To fix my error in memory. I was wrong about Enterprise firing lazers in the pilot. They were infact plasma cannons. Apologies.

I was thinking the Breen Attack on Earth and one surprising defender the USS Republic a Constitution class training vessel I reallly wonder how a Spacedock defense do in the Dominion War with 100 Runabouts and Support Ships in battle against a Dominion attack

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Quickly. The breen fleet was pretty much destroyed. Just not quite fast enough.

@45580677

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Novel wise use of damping torpedoes and capture of a orbital defense platform to cover civilian arm ships first strikes of key Starfleet locations as guide a major attack with the 3rd Fleet Thinking on Dominion War what if as Galaxy class not tooled for mass production as the Nebula class and Luna class to be deployed from DS9 I wonder how the Federation felt when they learn the Enterprise-D destroyed one of 2 of there best ships and death of Captain Kirk saving millions of lives As the lost of 2 of there best ships the Odyssey and Enterprise-D must have been a wake up call to get serious as D didn't die for nothing

I would name it starship yards weapons division myself then you can split it into several variants like black projects (genesis) Armorers (hull plating and shields) drive yards (engines) etc.

"Armorer's Arsenal", I think is a little better

High energy lasers are NOT cutting / burning weapons, they are much more akin to kinetic weapons as the density of single freq light transfers it's energy immediately.

Have you done disruptors, both Klingon and Romulan, as well as the plasma energy weaponry of the 22nd - 25th century?

Quantom torpedos next Quantom Plasma Phaser pulse Canons for the 32nd Century Sisko Class (Future Defiant)

I’m not so sure there has to be difference between “phase cannons” and “phasers”. Language changes, and the term “phaser” isn’t just shorter, it also not as on the nose referring to weapon as “phase cannon” is. Organizations like the Federation and Starfleet, who pretend not to have/be a military, might rename the technology for that reason alone.

It does make me wonder; what is the difference between the 22nd Century Phase Cannon that was equipped on the NX-01 vs the Phaser Quad Cannon (or 4 separate Phaser Cannons) that is the primary weapon of the U.S.S. Defiant from Deep Space Nine?

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

The use of boride crystals

How do you explain the phaser connons on the defiant in DS9

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Simple so the nadion pulse rather than travel along a beam is contained in each pulse. Which is why its 4 times more powerful than a phaser.

Lasers could be more powerful than phasers? Could they? I mean it seems phasers are very possible( but not economically viable yet) Lasers depending on the type of crystal used could be very penetrating

If you decide to address other technology issues besides weaponry, you will definitely need to rename the series. But I have no ideas for alternate names. Also, if we largely ignore Enterprise and the series that came after it, except for the Earth-Romulan war plot, then there are a lot fewer continuity issues. Eg: In TOS, a significant portion of Enterprise's computing power came from large, slow, power-hungry relays (like a 1970s computer). But in Enterprise, the computer tech is comparable to our current technology (small, fast, energy-efficient transistors), though it takes place a century before TOS.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

yeah. you kinda just have to ignore that analogue tech in TOS because its now retro. i think the DISCO enterprise did a good job of keeping those bold 60s colors whilst making it look futuristic,

Shame that they didn't keep smaller lasers as a point defense against torpedoes.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

i will cover that in a video on torpedoes

Star fleet Bureau of Ordinance. Or The Burord (Bureau of Ordinance) Report

My question is why dont they use energy weapons to shoot down torpedos

The Arsenal works Venom….

armoury database is what i use

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

that would work for small arms. but not ship mounted weapons

@1000nod

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 o well i tried

I am of some understanding the Andorians kinda helped Starfleet with phasers during the 4 Years War?

You can use it for point defense you could use the laser to blow up a torpedo or a missile that was coming at you which is what the modern American aircraft carriers do

what so the diffrence between a phase cannon and phaser cannon is the diffrence between a black powerd musket and a black powder rifle?

As for an alternate to Arsenal how about The Ordnance Department?

The Enterprise is never armed with lasers in the Cage, they just have hand lasers. The Enterprise NEVER had lasers, it was just a fan assumption because they were using hand lasers

The US is considering switching to the .308 round.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong but would that be bigger than .306? Why?

If you might indulge some 40k Nerds how about Wargear? It has a really nice ring to it. However Arsenal Works just fine as well especially if you are a fan of the Football team🤣🤣🤣. Something I have always wanted to know was why Starfleet is the ONLY space fleet to use Phaser Strips. It is odd becasue they have such a huge Field of Fire compared to the ships of anybody else. Having a few Phaser strips turns your ship into a OMNIDIRECTIONAL hedgehog. It is such a huge edge that I cannot understand why everyone else wouldn’t do it. As to your comments about NATO’s universal ammunition issue I think in no small part that was US throwing its post war ONLY NUCLEAR ARMED superpower status around as much as anything. And also the AK-47 was al,ost the opposite of how US and NATO rifle development went up until the Vietnam War showed that the heavy 308 round wasn’t really suitable for modern warfare anymore. Soldiers were being expected to carry more and more gear and so you had no choice but to save weight with the ammo. Also I have heard the US Department of Ordinance was extremely problematic and basically hated anything new and had enough influence to seriously hamper the development of the AR-15/M-16 platform. They also caused a lot of problems with the terrible torpedoes that the Us submarine fleet was stuck with in WW2, absolutely refusing to hear any arguments no matter how well proven that the Mk 40 was a piece of crap that was more a danger to the submarine then target.

I like "ordnance" instead of "arsenal". But they're almost synonyms...so.

Next photon torpedos vs spatial torpedos

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

are you some kind of telepath?

How is the phase cannon being routed thru the impulse manifold and dealing with plasma recoil different from the upgraded enterprise routing phaser power through the warp engines?? Would it cut off the drives to fire at all? Sure a momentary change you coast in space but still it's unwise to shunt off your means of propulsion AT ALL to put energy down range!

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

So I think when they tie phase cannons into impulse engines it means they draw power from the fusion reactors of the engines. At least with the refit drawing from the warp reactor you cannot fire phasers at warp.

@brianjohnson5272

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 I realize the power boost they'd get from shunting raw power into the phaser coils or phase cannons but still, not being able to fire while at high speed has no doubt sunk more than one ship.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianjohnson5272 yeah well kirk almost did it in tmp

@brianjohnson5272

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 case and point.

I think they were using lasers to shoot down missiles I'm not talking about photon torpedoes but maybe Archer style torpedoes or they contact the planet that's maybe 21st century 20th century technology and they fire nuclear missiles at the ship from the planet's surface they use lasers to you know destroy the missile they can maybe cut the missile in half without detonating the warhead so they don't scatter radiation on the planet's surface or they could use a laser if they wanted to disable it s*** but maybe cut off in a cell strut they could use a laser to cut a piece off the ship or burn a hole in a ship in a Pacific place I think they were for point defense I think early star fleet encountered sometimes quite a few impulse interceptors you know maybe crap that was about the size of a runabout just had impulse power might have had some kind of laser weapon or might be fire in some kind of nuclear torpedoes at them they could shoot those nuclear torpedoes with the laser they could maybe cut the engine off of the ship without destroying it

only improve ment i would make to the title is to call it "the arsenal"

Totally off topic there is an amazing RTS game from like 2002 called arsenal extended power (shady cracked version that knocking about windows defender did not like it but I think it's okay)

Pretty sure some alien race in TNG used lasers.

Is "The Cage" even canon? "The Menagerie" is, but does it retain explicit mentions of lasers?

Gillingham

I think arsenal is perfect.

I have to disagree with your premise on multiple levels. First both phase cannons & phasers are directed energy weapons. It's true that they are particle beams but particle beams move at very near the speed of light. You can also technically call them "projectile" weapons since they fire atomic sized bits of matter but I would simply stick to calling them energy weapons since at the atomic level you're talking protons, neutrons, & electrons. In the case of phasers, it's a subatomic particle called a nadion. Presumably this is akin to something like a quark. In Enterprise, the scene you mention with sillek, does not adequately express the speed of the beam & is just for theater to express the warping of time. As for lasers, I'm no expert on them but I have some understanding of how they operate. Essentially you have two different varieties, CW (continuous wave) & Pulsed. CW are not very efficient as weapons & perform as you more or less suggest which is damage over time. Pulsed lasers sends energy to a target in extremely rapid pulses that look like a continuous wave. The difference is that the material being lased can have time for gasses to dissipate from the leasing process which interferes with the efficiency of the laser. The net result is that the pulsed laser blows holes through the material much like a projectile. All military lasers used to destroy equipment are pulsed lasers & again if I remember correctly, it takes as little as 800j of energy to blast a hole through someone. In reality, something like a plasma shield could absorb all laser energy directed at it without breaking a sweat as long as you aren't talking about naturally occuring lasing phenomena that happens in space which could be astronomically huge amounts of power. A particle beam on the other hand could rip through a plasma shield, particularly a star trek style particle weapon that literally disrupts things at an atomic level

I like "Armory" over "Arsenal". They're probably synonyms, but whatever.

I find it annoying that the Trek producers couldn't just have stuck with how technology should have evolved in Trek. Instead they made the NX look more like TNG than TOS and have phasers 🤦🏻‍♂️

Arsenal is a great name, definitely better than something lame, like Manchester united! 😎😉

it´s a hotfix ...

Do you actually know what a projectile weapon is? I'm pretty convinced you don't. An energy weapon by definition is not a projectile weapon it could be a pulsed energy weapon instead of a continuous beam, but it is not a projectile weapon as the primary damage is not caused by a kinetic energy impact due to the mass of the projectile travelling at high velocity with the damage being a direct result of this energy transfer i.e Ek= 1/2 MV2. Whether a weapon does instantaneous damage or damage over time is completely irrelevant in determining if it is a projectile weapon. An energy weapon instead relies on the photoelectric effect and radiative heating to cause damage. It is a completely different area of physics. This is why an Energy weapon's power is measured in either Watts (W) or Joules (J) and not in Newtons (N) or as a ratio of the mass of the projectile.

@venomgeekmedia9886

2 жыл бұрын

It's more of a projectile than a laser beam since light isn't even a particle half of the time.

@jonsouth1545

2 жыл бұрын

@@venomgeekmedia9886 it's still not a projectile weapon as the main cause of damage is not kinetic energy transfer caused by the impact.

Phase CANNONs (not "canons")