We run that same baler as well as a bale baron. We only do the baron bundles and no large rectangles. Works great for us. Interesting to see it used for rebaling!

Sometimes I seem to get this discolored bale's that the sun is shining on through the door and when you cut them open nice and green inside

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Yes! That’s actually a pretty good feeling

Like the set up. You guys always figure out how to get things done.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

We try!

@randywells4674

Жыл бұрын

Get things done twice so stupid

im-press-ive ! That bale destroyer sure makes a beautiful windrow. Nice work guys!

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! We are releasing a video soon of the actual Rebaling process

@hammerhayllc

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider can’t wait. t’s def a science when it comes to setting and and operating !

We use to buy large round bales of straw from a grain farm and fork them into a square baler to sell to local landscapers . It was a lot of work but we made a lot of money doing it . 2 guys with 2 pitchforks 😁

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Repackaging material for ease of use to the end customer can be a profitable endeavor for sure, there is just no way around it that it does take some work

Thanks for the video- great idea leaving the tractors outside

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for tuning in!

You carn’t beat being cautious if your product as customers always remember the one bad bale out of hundreds

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Sadly true lol

Love the endings.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Haha I did just kinda stop it. I will show it in action more next video

We purchased the 3point hitch Marcrest hydralic power unit so one old 4020 will drive the Simpson unroller tables, the inline baler, and the 5250T Baron......A 5045E will take he bundle as the exit and load them directly into a 53 ft trailer......3 people is all needed to convert 40 4x5 rounds into 36 bundles in about 21/2 hours......

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Very nice!

@farmingforfunandprofit940

Жыл бұрын

We are too far South grow Orchard grass and too far North to grow "Alfafa of The South" ( Perineal Peanuts} So we are stuck with Hybrid Bermuda grass (Tifton 44)....But 6 years ago we switched to Hay only.......But coming from you I take your comment as well meaning

That’s just good business sense!

30 degrees isn't that cold at all. I worked framing a house when it was 20 below F every morning in Maine for a solid week, that is what really sucks. I must be crazy!!!!!!!!!!

Great video

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Good Story , I subscribed, thank you

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Now that you have it down pat you can implement a second destroyer and baler setup 😉 crank them bales out buddie!

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

That would be serious production

Box in between the wall and the hyd. Cooler on the barren so it can only suck fresh air

Nice setup. How much does your cost per bale increase in a rebale system? Looks like alot of extra handling.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m gonna break into the economics a bit next video. This was a lot of handling because of storage issues at first, but a necessary evil

Good video.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

As a dairy farmer..... I dealt with large square bales of hay. Almost all bales have to be treated with a preservative to prevent them from heating / molding. I bought a semi load of large square bales from western Iowa. I told the seller.... I wanted to try " one " bale and if my cows would not eat it I would refuse the entire load......paying for only the bale I took off the load. I put one large square bale in my round bale feeder.......and 10 small square bales of hay that I baled myself in another bale feeder......here at home. The cows would not touch the large square bale ! Instead the cows gathered around the round bale feeder with my small squares in it. Bottom line....... the preservative sinks ! Cows wont touch it......thats why farmers have TMRs.....to blend the hay in so the cows will eat it. So.......rebaling big squares........you have the same issue. Cattle will almost starve before the eat them ! Been there done that ! Beware !

Awesome setup 👌 sometimes we get discoloration just from picking up some old hay that was left in the feild. It's dry matter but brown.. not saying that's what happened with you but it does happen .

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

You are right, it’s hard to make a perfect crop for sure

@adamwagner1987

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider we all do our best 👌 👍 thanks for the video . Tell Carl we'll have a slice of pizza for him

Not including additional costs to either bale small squares in the field or make then in the off-season, how much more per ton do you sell small squares vs big squares?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

It can be double towards the end of the winter. I can source good quality 1st cutting grass for $180-200 and it will sell for $380-420+

JEEZ! You really love the sound of your own voice.

Nice gloves! 😉

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I had a great time interning at EY

We load 88 bales in México, per 2 40' semi flat Trailers on 1 trip . And 68 bales on a 53' 3 axle drop deck.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Good numbers! Are you talking about 3x3 bales?

@hcb1515

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider 3x4 bales, that's the best configuration. Arround 550 kg to 650 kg per bale.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

68 on a 53? Does that end up being pretty tall?

@hcb1515

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider mm kinda but it's legal, 3 vertical bales on 3 rows on the lower bed, which is 54 bales(6*9), then 14 bales on the upper bed, which is 6 vertical on bottom and 8 horizontals on top of the 6.

Did you ever weigh the large bail batch, and then the resulting small bail batch to see the difference?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t actually done that. That would be interesting to know

I agree to much face time you do have good content

Carl is dead right. If you don't make the u-joints flex they don't self-lube the wear area and you don't get any precession in the bearings and they'll go out much sooner because of the uneven wear.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

I told him about your comment at lunch, he goes “I know what I’m talking about.” haha

@spudth

Жыл бұрын

Hey! I was going to say that!

That's an amazing operation. $400k or $800k in product? It's still a huge investment and a lot of labor. Feed the beast. It's a lifestyle. Oh, and it's not really cold yet!

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

We do our best to keep harnessing efficiencies and such with the latest technology

Looks good. I think last year you had three tractors ? Plus I think you had over heating issues with at least one of them.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

We made some great improvements this year!

Question, why not bale some small bales in the field along with baling big bales in the field so you don't have to handle the Hay twice to get a small bale?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

With this particular batch of hay we featured moving, all the little square balers and large baler were running simultaneously. We had to fire on all cylinders to beat the rain

Do a longer video next time to show the bundle dropping badass setup man

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Next one is going to show it in depth! Thank you

@rebelgaming7718

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider your welcome

That 180, was that the one you used to take the Barron off the float this summer ?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Great eye and memory

I can’t imagine if that was all one machine, as a trailer or on one solid frame.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

The bale converter itself is one machine. The table that feeds the large squares into the webbing folds up and it has a hitch you can pull it around with. The yellow conveyer that feeds the baler is a separate unit, as well as the baler and the baron

@tonycameron9778

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider callme

Where did you get the conveyor feeding the baler and 90 degree gearbox that runs the baler?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

We got them from Simpco in Georgia

@codymakuch9293

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider nice setup. How long is the conveyor

Can u put motors on the outside In place of the tractors

Maybe invest in a flir camera to inspect the bales with. Check if any hot spots are showing, they cost what 400 bucks, way cheaper than a barn full of hay.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea. I stick thermometers is everything. This is how I knew about the open bundle

2 comments on the welding job: #1. Eric O. (SMA) says never weld or solder wires on the internet. #2 My old boss, who would be 90 if he were with us, would say "That's good enough for the girls I go out with".

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Haha I’ve heard that one too. Being on camera we know better than to insult the women at home haha

32 degrees is shorts and T-shirt weather in Michigan!

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Hahah after the Christmas freeze I would agree with you. It’s like 40 today and feels tropical

Nice setup. What brand is the bale processor? We're looking at buying 1

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

messicks bale converter

Do you patch holes back in your barn or how do you keep it from getting wet in barn by bales where holes were cut

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Yep. We patched them over Christmas for the massive snow storms we got

Why weren't they originally baled in small bales? It sounds like small bales is a nice, profitable part if your business.

@TheFarmingLife

Жыл бұрын

It takes a lot more labor to make small Bales in the begin with and when you have a short window of weather you need to get it off the field with the big bales

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Spot on! Plus, we buy other’s hay and value add by rebaling it

@colinmacdonald1939

Жыл бұрын

Only a man who’s never made small bales would ask that question 😂. No offence Terry Jones it is a legitimate question 👍

we had a great year for the hay and strew too prices are down for last year lot have them for $ 5.00 here time at the action they get 12 bucks most of the time 5 to i do reenable mine as well look great to the people and they pay more for it lol too i have calves to sell i usually have bales the bull calves are very hard to milk lol too we get able 150, to 180 . per male calve too some to have larger calves than the other farmer around here too they do well at auction too glad to get rid of the black devils lol too it may drop in prices if the federal government has it its way too

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

There is still a lot of winter left! You might see price increases soon

Good day from Ontario. Boy seems like a costly way to make small bales when they are in big bales alright. So who gets small bales that big ones could be used. Thanks

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Almost exclusively horse farms that can’t otherwise handle the large squares. The difference in selling price and demand is worth it

@donvoll2580

Жыл бұрын

@@FarmingInsider Yea I talk to neighbour about it & he told me that horse fellows use them Thanks

@umarumer4049

Жыл бұрын

Is the big bales double pressed Nice idea Thank you

Do you loose alot of leaves doing this bale in the field once and be done

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Not much leaf to lose in grass

Hay I’m from Minnesota wait til it gets to 3 below,still wouldn’t trade farming for anything

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Right around Christmas it was in the negatives! Good thing we didn’t have customers or our own animals to worry about.

How many acres did you collect from?

How do you guys control mice and snakes ..?I got a bad problem with both

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

We have lots of barn cats that seem to keep the mouse population somewhat contained, we don’t have a snake issue tho

@oldfart5063

Жыл бұрын

employ the snakes to take care of the mice . they work for free .

Didn't realize anybody "rebales". Can't do it that way the first time around I guess...for some reason.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

It’s based on what Mother Nature allows us to do in the field. We will buy other producers product and rebale it also

👍

Good video, but is it not more costly to be rebaling.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

More costly yes but also more profitable

I can tell by all that equipment I couldn’t afford that hay:)

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

The end market doesn’t care how much our equipment costs, if we are priced too high it won’t sell (hasn’t been an issue yet)

@jeffhuntley2921

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully my cows love $30 6x6 round bails of anything that smells fermented:)

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffhuntley2921 that is an awesome deal and I feel for you cattle guys. The majority of our hay goes to equestrian centers where money is made independent of the animal haha

Is there a Finished rebaling video?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Working on it!

Do you have big alfalfa squares for sale? I can pick up

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir

How many acres do you bale hay

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Some years too much, some years not enough

Did your accounting firm give you gloves?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Not our firm, but I interned there for a semester in college

What is the purpose of rebailing?

@FarmingInsider

6 ай бұрын

To get the hay into a more user friendly, and profitable package

Why are you re-baling the hay ?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

To meet customer demand mostly

I don’t suppose you’re in Texas for doing this? Because come out here and bale hay in the summertime you’ll instantly change your mind.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

We are in northern Ohio

So excuse me but I'm confused....isn't a large square bale made up of many small squares all tired up in a bundle?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

A large square bale is made up of a bunch of flakes (just like a small square bale). A bundle is made up on many small squares. So we are taking a large square and making a bundle

You'd save a lot of money running that thing with an electric motor.

Wait - do you also work for EY?

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

I did an internship at EY my junior year of college

its fair to boys yer Massey fans

I don’t understand the need to re bale hay. Seems like a lot of extra cost

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

it's also alot of extra value add which is profitability

Okay Farming insiders, I've watched this re-baling 2.0 and all I can say is......why? Why do y'all even use large square balers? Your hay is obviously much more valuable in small square bales, so what's your justification for ever baling large square bales? Spend a little more time up front when baling, and save all of this time, and the expense of operating all of this equipment, and buy a couple more small square balers, and do it right, and do it once. Now it's your turn to tell me what I'm missing? I hope y'all had a blessed Christmas, and you have a prosperous New Year! #HappyBirthdayJesus

@dharrison6832

Жыл бұрын

They don't have time takes a lot longer to bail small bails and get them out the field your always fighting the weather soon as you have hay down here comes the rain....so the use big bails to get it out the field to be stored till they have time to rebail ...if you had a small operation then yes small bails from the start

@RealJohnWayne

Жыл бұрын

@@dharrison6832 I've been square baling hay for more than 50 years, for my personal horses as well as to sell to other equine owners. I've also been round baling hay for my personal cow-calf operation, and have also used large square balers to a much smaller degree. As a John Deere Dealer Principle I've used and sold all 3 types of balers over the years. I typically don't put more than 20 acres of Alfalfa on the ground at a time, which normally yields a little more than 2K bales in 3 of 5 cuttings, with the other 2 yielding a little less than 2K bales, which averages a total of around 10K small square bales annually. To bale 2K bales in one day, I use 2 John Deere 348 balers with ejectors and 5 or 6 wagons. In my comment I said they needed a few more small balers, with ejectors and a whole lotta wagons, and they could do it faster, and much more efficiently than baling it twice. "Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌 👍 🇺🇲

@dharrison6832

Жыл бұрын

Ya they are prolly putting down 100s of acres at a time

@dharrison6832

Жыл бұрын

That more moving parts more break downs more people they can get more done with less and wait till the have time to rebale in a controlled environment pretty simple I don't see what your missing??

@dharrison6832

Жыл бұрын

It's the same amount of equipment prolly less to be honest...my grandpa had a dairy farm I grew up on it and he was always always fighting the rain and never could find the help to run more equipment that's way way easier said then done

WHY REBAIL???

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Almost none of our customers can handle 1200lb bales, they prefer small square bales 40-50 lbs. It’s the same conceptually as to why mulch retailers offer bagged mulch as well as semi load orders. There is no one size fits all

هل تحتاجون عامل يملك مهارات متعددة؟

@FarmingInsider

6 ай бұрын

We are looking for more!

@Al-mj2fw

6 ай бұрын

I can driver all heavy equipments and im electrican too and welder and fitter and farmer..but im from iraq and iam tormented hard iam dying by muslims and i an atheist

You have not answered on me yet?

This entire operation though apparently serves a purpose seems illogical.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Many places can not handle large squares but they can handle individual 40-50 lb bales

Too much with the music imo. Everything else so far is nice.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

The 15 seconds of music in the beginning was too much? Do you think it was a bad song choice or just don’t belong at all

The rebaling the hay when it’s all ready been balled seems a waste of money .

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

It’s a value add

Brown is oxidation. More than one cause, and I highly doubt I would cut a bale open based on color alone. But what do I know. When I farmed hay was NEVER a cash crop. Now you guys ship it all over the US. Short of government subidies I don't see how many farms exist. Many claims how much more efficient they are... Somebody is using different math than mine.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

It needed to be cut anyway to go through the bale converter. Hay never being a cash crop is an interesting experience you had. Were there no horse owners in the area or other animal farms that needed additional forage beyond what they maybe made?

Pleas hold more still whit the camera , it's make bad videos .

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

I am working on that. Thank you for the review

That is too much work, labor intensive, equipment, fuel , handling. Krone builds a large square baker that individually ties up to 9 flakes within the big square. Just set to large square bale on the barn floor, the customer cuts the main strings, and they have up to nine small squares, all tied, as noted, individually, to feed livestock . One step from field to customer.. All this rebale procedure is simply too cost ineffective & labor intensive. I have no affiliation w/ krone,

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

That machine is cool but the individual flakes it produces are far heavier than our market wants.

Too much yapping not enough of showing the processing

the round bails look bad not tasty at all to cows

I still don't understand why you would want to rebail. This was the first time i have seen one of your videos and i will not be back. This looks like a make work project. Something to keep you busy in the winter. You did not answer the basic questions that people would have and most of the stuff you said did not make any sence to someone who has no idea why you would do what you are doning. Bye

@RollinCoal72

Жыл бұрын

Simple! With big balers you can put up a lot more hay in a much shorter amount of time! It’s MUCH faster then dealing with small bales! They have a huge demand for small square bales! Horse people like small 50-60lb bales! Baling tens of thousands of small bales is very inefficient if rain is coming! So they bale big squares then re-bale into smaller, easier to handle small squares! Horse people (many of them women) can then handle them much easier! Also horse people will pay premium prices for quality hay!

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Rollin Coal, you absolutely nailed it

schwachsinn

Here's a thought, show what you're talking about instead of your face so much. Literally over half of the video the camera is pointed at you. You have some interesting content but your camera work sucks. You show hay bales, and you stand in front of them like you're taking a selfie.

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review

@andyrobinson339

Жыл бұрын

wow...pretty aggressive. Good thing most of us like his content.

lots of face time and nose hairs...not a lot of action...for me: More machines, less full face talking head...or an action only no talking heads video as a second channel!!

Boo hoo. It’s 4 where I live

@FarmingInsider

Жыл бұрын

Haha that’s brutal! We were -30 windchill just a few days ago