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@harshmudhar96

Жыл бұрын

The price of losing at the start of the round is nil.

To be far it is the "fourth" crash bandicoot game so the people who developed the game probably thought the player would know who crash was and the whole marketing was crash was back and he was evolving and etc. But I do see your piont they could've handle it a little bit better but hey! Trial and error lol!

@elevenfifteen16

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought. Everyone should know the crates by the time they played the “4th” game

@soulciel

Жыл бұрын

​@@elevenfifteen16 everyone who had a PS console, because that Crash was multi.

@Darvoth

Жыл бұрын

@@elevenfifteen16 wrath of cortex is the first crash game to go multi platform though. Plenty of people who picked it up likely never owned a PlayStation and therefor knew nothing about the series.

@DrunkedOwly

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't hurt to have a little section that subtlety introduces you to the crates tho, also, noteworthy that this was on another consoles and multi consoles, so the chances of getting people that did not played the other games in the older console is pretty high

@mediamuncher69

Жыл бұрын

@@DrunkedOwly true it is crash first time on other consoles so you do have a piont I agree. This is probably people's first time with crash.

Only the 10 kids who read the manual before they played Crash 2 were spared the fate of seeing what that cool looking green crate did.

@PhantomBones101

Жыл бұрын

.....Im one of those 10 kids lol

@GameGeekJosh

Жыл бұрын

Manual:: NEVER EVER touch a NITRO box. (Just a suggestion). Me: Oh, so it’s safe to touch this new b- Hey, wait a minute! You said something similar about the TNT box in Crash 1 and look where that got me. I’m not falling for it!

@lx5323

10 ай бұрын

@@GameGeekJoshThat one color gem be like: how about no?

Ok we get it you hate this game but at least come up with a valid argument

@bigchillin4216

Жыл бұрын

🎯

Still this was back when games had Manuals and they said what they were.

If you're an old person who has never touched a controller in your life then yeah sure it would be overwhelming.

I started with Wrath Of Cortex and I still like it despite its criticism.

@khakishark

23 күн бұрын

Same

@MeattWeapon4

19 күн бұрын

I have left people's bullshit opinions since 2022. A lot of nonsense in their perspectives in games and consoles like atari jaguar, top nds games and reviewing games. Crash woc is fantastic games and no one can deny this.

Skill isue, Wrath of Cortex is one of the best Crash game of all time 😎

@lucaccca

10 күн бұрын

Yeaaah, I never had a problem with it as a kid

To be fair it’s not like it was a brand new series back then it was the 4th crash game made so they probably thought people would know what each thing does from the previous games

@MarcosVinicius-js3uk

10 ай бұрын

This is the first multiplataform crash game. Many xbox and gamecube players never played crash bandicoot

Really don't see what the problem is. I figured out what the crates do as a kid from that WoC level. Did you have a hard time figuring out what the crates did in WoC or something?

@walter4180

Жыл бұрын

It's more that it's not strong game design. Crash 1 - 3 were all ps1 and wrath was the first multi platform so people were going to be introduced to crash for the first time and the game pretty much bombards you with stuff in the first level instead of introducing them appropriately like prior games would have. The majority are going to figure it out eventually, but trickling mechanics to players especially when new is just better design. And iirc the metal coated crates were introduced in the first level without showing you how to belly slam which is something the uninitiated won't know how to perform. Even crash 4 which is extremely recent did a much better job showcasing and drip feeding it's mechanics in a well placed manner.

@mansionoflostspiritsrecords

Жыл бұрын

ha bro took it personally

@jonahbrown5669

Жыл бұрын

​@@walter4180 Agreed that when compared to 1-3, WoC doesn't have as strong game design. I wouldn't say it's BAD game design though (in terms of the boxes). I was pretty bad at games as a kid yet this was one of the first games I've completed, also did the "secret" levels. I feel like if the explanation of different boxes were bad, my 4 year old self wouldn't have been able to play the game, yet I figured out what they did quickly. Also figured out I had to slam the metal crates pretty quickly, but there definitely could have been a tutorial made to tell you that you even COULD do a slam

@jonahbrown5669

Жыл бұрын

​@@mansionoflostspiritsrecords ?

@spookyman5468

11 күн бұрын

@@walter4180anecdotal, but this was not only my first crash game but my first video game in general. Figured it out just fine at like 4 years old. Maybe not instantly but learning curve didn’t feel too crazy to me

Wrath Of Cortex is goated and I’ll die on that hill alone if I have to. It strayed away from the simple formula of the 1st 3 games

@MrTHEMONEEMAKER

2 ай бұрын

Dude, they have a mine cart level where you don’t have to touch the fucking controller to win the level it’s horrible design

@LooseAsADEUCE

Ай бұрын

Straying away from the formula isn't automatically a good thing. The formula is there for a reason.

Crash tWoC remake would be awesome though

@georgefisherfan

Жыл бұрын

I would right away buy it if the barwalking is faster !

@lewisgrant7622

Жыл бұрын

Never happening

@AlcaTraZXG

Жыл бұрын

All the Crash games worthy of a remake have been remade already

@warioplush

11 ай бұрын

@@AlcaTraZXGTwinsanity

@avery2306

11 ай бұрын

@@AlcaTraZXG nitro kart

why do you keep complaining about this? you act like it's game breaking. grow up. why did 5-6 year old me understand this supposed complex box system?

@soulciel

Жыл бұрын

Because you are not the only one playing Joel, game design is for everyone.

@Goomba_N64

Жыл бұрын

@laidetre yeah that's why game design now a days are garbage. They don't challenge you. If something was too difficult everyone just quits now. That's why people can't even play the first level of Mario now a days.

@Goomba_N64

Жыл бұрын

@laidetre people like you and the guy who made this video are why we have games like among us & pokemon go.

@soulciel

Жыл бұрын

@@Goomba_N64 oh god, you sound SOOOO old. Like... Really? Pokemon Go? The game that was popular like 5 years ago? Among us? The game that was made like 4 years ago? Yeah sure, pretty sure those are the only games that the industry had made since Crash. Lol. Dude, you had Crash 4 right there lol.

@shvelgud

Жыл бұрын

@@soulciel can you quote where he said that among us and Pokemon go were the only games the industry has created since crash? Also the popularity and age of those games literally has nothing to do with Joel’s comment. His point is that video games have become less challenging over time to accommodate for people who complain about ‘poor level design’ when what they actually mean is ‘this level is hard’. Pretty much a skill issue. But in your case it seems more like an intelligence / illiteracy issue.

Is it? In TWOC first level they arent all on the same área, in fact il argue is the best at showing you all of that cus they are all separate filled with checkpoints to mess around with them. You could say the same for Crash 2 and 3 since they also shove elements you wouldnt know about if you are a first timer

A few things. It is the 4th mainline game in the series, so I kinda expect the levels to introduce all the old crates. Even so, its easy enough to learn what makes each crate tick without getting overwhelmed. Besides the ice physics, this is a good first level, and I enjoy it to this day. Is it as memorable as other games? Not really, but I like it enough. Better than Twinsanity and its unskippable cutscenes that repeat if you die

@brianhull2407

Жыл бұрын

That argument only applies to people who had a PS1 or bought the PS2 and so could’ve played the first three games. WoC was the first Crash game to be multiplatform, so it was also available on the GameCube and (I think) the OG XBox, meaning more people with no familiarity with the first three games would be playing it. I agree that, aside from the ice physics, for people with some familiarity with either Crash 2 or Crash 3, it was a decent enough first level. I personally had no trouble because I only played it at a friend’s house after playing through part of their copies of Crash 2 and 3 (never played the original Crash 1, actually…), and I was unaware there even was a GameCube version at the time, but had I been aware of the GameCube version before I met that friend (not an implausible scenario), it’s likely I would have been overwhelmed because I wouldn’t have had that prior experience. Plus, I mean, it was at a friend’s house, so he would warn me about certain obstacles ahead of time, anyway. I’m honestly torn on WoC. On the one hand, it does get more hate than it deserves, but on the other hand, it did get a lot of things wrong. This is one it did get wrong, but not necessarily terribly so (there are far more egregious issues with the game), and had it been only on PS2, it would barely be an issue. And yeah, why does it start with an ice level, complete with ice physics? Outside of some games where basically every level is an ice level, it’s Christmas themed, the main character is a penguin or something, or the game is based off of a movie or something that starts off somewhere cold and snowy, I’ve never seen any other game that begins with an ice level (unless you count CoD Infinite Warfare or Dead Space 3, but I personally don’t). Even in those exceptions, it’s rare for there to be ice physics in the first level. There’s a reason for that.

@brianhull2407

Жыл бұрын

Also, yeah, aside from being rushed and the lame name for the BBEG (the Evil Twins, seriously?), Twinsanity’s biggest flaw is the unskippable cutscenes. I love the game, but that is a major flaw, especially since they also replay when you die (which would have been a simple fix, btw) or if you end up replaying a level again (also an easy fix, even disregarding the fact that it shouldn’t be so easy to replay a level like that in the first place; I can give a semi-pass for that because it’s kinda open-world, especially for a Crash game, and the first one in the series to allow such exploration). And when I say “easy fix”, I do mean easy. Just a single flag for each cutscene or a counter that increments for each cutscene that gets preserved after death and when saving then reloading that save would fix that problem even without making the cutscenes skippable. Sure, making the cutscenes unskippable would be a better fix, but still…

@DKCfan94

11 ай бұрын

@@brianhull2407 I’m think that wrath of cortex was a ps2 exclusive for the first couple of months before it went to Xbox, and then the gamecube version took a whole year after the original release to come out

I absolutely love the fact crash bandicoot doesn't not have any stupid tutorials. Just the freaking controller and figure it out yourself 🤣🤣

I Love all crash games. The OST for the wrath of cortex Hits harder than Crash’s Spin

It’s the fourth game in the series, they expect you to know what each of those crates does, as they’re all returning me mechanics from the previous crash games, they aren’t introducing any “new” mechanics FFS

@danielmartin2116

Жыл бұрын

Not if this is your first Crash game

@HAMZA_OLYMPUS

9 ай бұрын

@@danielmartin2116even if it is your first Crash game, you can just break every fking box you see in the first level and understand their meanings

@danielmartin2116

9 ай бұрын

@@HAMZA_OLYMPUS That's still not strong game design for your _first_ _level._ It's best to have at least two to three kinds of boxes then have the entire set of them when you're still getting used to the game.

@rowenramnath2016

7 ай бұрын

When I first played crash, I read the manual. Then I saw dont touch the nitro crates 😂

I wish that Naughty dog will get crash back

If I'm not mistaken, all of the boxes you showed in Wrath of Cortex was already in Crash 3 Warped. They were not new additions. 🤔

Bouncy crate was in crash 1 and several times showed you how to use it .

With a critical eye its easy to pick out these things, but 5 year old me figured it out and loved it so I don't see why it should be different now

Boo fucking hoo, maybe they assumed you'd have an ounce of awareness of the series or games in general

Hmm, I see where you're coming from, but the fourth instalment would rightfully assume those elements were familiar with most Crash players.

Did he really expect new mechanics

It's not exactly new mechanics as wrath of cortex is the 4th game in the series. The opening level is perfect

All those things are literally in crash 3😂

But people already knew all these mechanics from the trilogy…

@DrRank

Жыл бұрын

But what if TWoC was your first game? (It wasn't for me, but what if?)

@prismatic9524

3 ай бұрын

Idk...maybe just grab a controller and start to play

Wrath of Cortex was my childhood, as well as Conflict Desert Storm

I was 4 and the wrath of cortex was my first crash and it was easy to understand how crates works. Also because the first level has all the tipes of crate and this helps to learn how they works without trouble

Wrath of Cortex was my first Crash game so hehe

Bruh, there were three games before the woc, most people playing would have already known.

I think You are overreacting. Like nitpicking just for the sake of complaining. Especially considering that Crash Wrath of Cortex is harder than other Crash games except Crash 1.

The Wrath Of Cortex was my first video game ever. I was a pre-schooler back then. Yeah, it does throw a lot at you, but it could still be figured out - just like the other instances. It was just done all at once

Watch out for that slippery ice!!!!!

What Is crash holding when he dies by nitro?

I beat the "The wrath of Cortex" to 104% and I still struggle with the first level due to all the crates popped into one.

Why does a Nitro crate need introduction? Who saw that fior the first time and thought: ''Well imma walk right into that!'' ??

@BautistaZep777

Жыл бұрын

Exactly… typical wrath of cortex hater activities

@linkin7357

Жыл бұрын

Because they kill you... Did a Green box kill you in real life?

The first time you have a chance at the top is the second one you get a free pass and you can go on your way back and then go to your other place to pick them up 🆙 or go straight

Basically don't make another Wrath of Cortex.

To be fair, they do give you an Aku-Aku crate in that place so you can test the Nitro crate without dying in Crash 2

Best Crash Bandicoot game Ever! Well crash 2 crash 3 & crash bandicoot the wrath of cortex is the best Crash bandicoot game Ever ya’ll! 😎

What is ur all-Time Favorite Crash Game Ever man???

I had played all the Crash games up to that point so I knew what was up, but looking back yea maybe not the most intuitive game design.

watch out for that slippery iiiice

The only thing I really have a problem with is ice physics in a first level. That should be reserved for later when you understand the basic feel of the game. The level is a great level, but a terrible first level

And that's why I loved that game

Which is ur all-time fav Crash bandicoot game Man??

so many people saying it's the 4th crash game like that makes it good design? it's still someone's first time playing but also... they're not difficult mechanics, and they're introduced one at a time still, just over the course of the level instead of over the course of a game WoC wasn't exactly stellar but don't think this was the problem

@tammid8423

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's not really the best way to introduce the mechanics but it still works well if you decide to mess around in the level to get a feel of it

The thing with wrath of Cortez is that they replaced all these clear cut examples with vehicle levels

It's lots and lots of crates and games!

I loved wraph of Cortex

Meh, you can easily learn how to deal with every crate by only looking at it. Games used to let people discover by trial and error, they didn't have a tutorial for everything like nowadays.

If you think this is overwhelming then I can’t wait until you get a real job and your superiors demand multiple things from you at once…

Crash woc added a lot of new crates, Just respect!

@PaxTheCat

Жыл бұрын

@@thedman1754 you didn't get sarcasm

I completely disagree wrath of cortex is one of if not the best crash games ever

Wrath of Cortex was pog tho

Penta Penguin yay one

i genuially don't understand what the purpose of this short is

The wrath of cortex needs a remaster or port. How could they not put that one in their stupid little remaster pack.

You're lucky You're emulating. On top of the bad level design the game runs like shit!

@_G.C

Жыл бұрын

Not even the PS2 version is saved from slowdown issues when entering new areas

@shvelgud

Жыл бұрын

I’ve played this game over many years on my PS2 was one of my favourite crash games when I was younger. It definitely does not run like shit on the console it was designed for

@NomadVevo

Жыл бұрын

@shvelgud the framerate tanks down to 20-30 fps. Most of the level design and character design look like shit as the video pointed out. Sorry your childhood game is extremely average I guess.

@crashtactiko

Жыл бұрын

@@NomadVevothe PS2 ver. that got released is an unfinished One, the Greatest Hits ver. fixes the long loading screens and some bugs

@NomadVevo

Жыл бұрын

@user-fe3rk1kz9k fair I guess but if I'm gonna play a mid crash game I always go for twinsanity.

But none of this introduced in TWOC.

BROOO how do I play wrath of Cortext on pc? Pls help I've done so much research and to no avail..

I guess WoC wasn’t designed for slow asses who need multiple entire levels to comprehend the use of a fking box?

To be honest the most unbelievable thing about this game is how they managed to make this game look worse and lifeless than any of the original trilogy

It was ez tho 🔥

Crash bandicoot is prob the best platformer aside from from mario games

So you wanted for them to remove all those crates from the previous games? These aren't "new" mechanics, just like Crash 3 also had NITRO crates

OMG thats bad nitro

Ahhhhh yess, that is way Is the best game in history

This never bothered me. I mean I get the point but theres not really any new mechanics compared To 3. Also I think there is an idea here where you have a small Intro for these things and later on you have levels that are based on some of these things.

People saying they don't see the problem probably also don't understand basic level design principles. When introducing a mechanic, whether it be for returning fans or new ones, you always need to be sure a concept is clear and cohesive before proceeding to more challenging variations. You can't just say "Well it's the 4th game people should know" because this could be someone's first. Crash 4 is the EIGHTH game in the series and even gets this concept right. When designing a game, you always have to assume the player doesn't know before introducing something for the first time in that game.

@mightymi2k746

Жыл бұрын

It was my first crash game and I didn't have any problems with it. It did in fact do it right. Twoc is overhated

@VinnimonCinnimon

Жыл бұрын

@@mightymi2k746 When designing games you always have to assume the player has never touched a controller before. Just because you didn't struggle doesn't mean the potential for someone else to struggle isn't there. That's just how game design works. You need to introduce your mechanics as seamless as possible without assuming the player already knows, but also without being overbearing. Twoc falls much closer into the former.

@mightymi2k746

Жыл бұрын

@@VinnimonCinnimon crash bandicoot twoc wasn't overbearing. In fact to an extent it was underbearing. I'll admit that a lot of it was rocky but I will defend the first level

@VinnimonCinnimon

Жыл бұрын

@@mightymi2k746 I said the former, which is "assuming the player already knows". Not overbearing. The level isn't badly designed. But it DOES fail basic level design principles when introducing a game to the players. It's not a death sentence but it's still less than graceful at teaching new players mechanics.

@mightymi2k746

Жыл бұрын

@@VinnimonCinnimon the game came out in 2005. The hand holding game mechanics we have today don't apply here

ah so i didn't suck at qrath of cortex as a kid, it's just a bad game lol

@DeanoSaur199

4 күн бұрын

It might of been both.

Thats why you need to read instructions of the game "genious"!

You can't introduce what has already been introduced.

Literally stolen joke and everybody knows. You should be ashamed

Dude, all these games are 20+ years old. Cry about it. Crash warped was the first game i ever played when i was 3 played all the crash games and it was never an issue. Lol. Its, pretty easy to understand.

Okay, we get it, you dont like WoC.

Skill issue, cry more

Crash twinsanity remake

@bigchillin4216

Жыл бұрын

No.

Skill issue

Grow up

I get the point but the only way it would be overwhelming is if you've never touched a controller before Even IF it was overwhelming, all you need to really keep in mind is how TNTs and Nitros work

It wasn't even that bad.