All things come to an end. What y’all think the next wave gonna be?

@__boo

3 жыл бұрын

idk but all i gotta say is detroit is really goin nuts rn lol

@cemsen5460

3 жыл бұрын

its already here, this generation kids love melodic trash ass “rappers” and call polog the greatest to touch a mic🤣

@jebediahbush9718

3 жыл бұрын

Tap dancing.

@priv5581

3 жыл бұрын

Drill

@esho758

3 жыл бұрын

Hard to tell tbh. Hip hop has always been about the drums not so much the melodies. What defines the "trap" sound is the low rumbling 808, crazy hi hat patterns, and use of triplets in both drums and flow. I can't imagine what could improve on that formula, but I hope someone else can and soon because I feel like trap is on its last legs. I've heard producers tweak the 808 by adding distortion or even playing it in reverse, but if they keep using it in those same rhythms its still going to have the same feel. Maybe there's a chance it'll start sounding more like early-mid 2000's hip hop similar timbaland/neptunes productions with rich futuristic sounding synths and more variation in drum sounds and patterns, but with a modern twist.

The fans grew up

@larryjake7783

3 жыл бұрын

"...One day, them kids that's listening gon' grow up And get too old for that shit that made you blow up Now your show's lookin' light cause they don't show up Which unfortunately means the money slow up Now you scramblin' and hopin' to get hot again But you forgot you only popped 'cause you was ridin' trends..."---- J. Cole

@emperorza5777

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@jayvondavis1558

3 жыл бұрын

Forreal I was a teenager when that list came out

@invaderkym

3 жыл бұрын

J cole know what he talking about

@Terpio15000

3 жыл бұрын

Larry Jake goat

“Only real music last, all that other bullshit is here today and gone tommo...”

@thawindyking2740

3 жыл бұрын

The realest quote regarding music, actual factual. Everytime I hear that, bring a smile to my face 💯

@palaceprada2641

3 жыл бұрын

Mmm Idek bought that

@kingMadnus

3 жыл бұрын

Do ya mean gone tommoooorrrrooow

@theodorebouchet321

3 жыл бұрын

who said that again?

@RiceBrispies

3 жыл бұрын

Theodore Bouchet intro on Pound Cake/Paris Morton Music 2

“1985” by J. Cole “When day them kids that’s listening, they gonna grow up. And get too old for that shit made you blow up.”

@GoodLook911

2 жыл бұрын

Yep...Cole foretold this nonsense was gona fade...

I never cared for mumble and Soundcloud rap. I used to ask my friends what they liked about it, and they said the beat. I asked them if they liked the rapper or the beat more. Usually, it was the beat.

@GeteMachine

2 жыл бұрын

Then whats the point of the rapper? Its such a stupid argument people make and the reason why most of these rappers are a dime a dozen, because people just ignore how awful they are with the excuse that they like the beat. Its like defending a book because you like the paper, not the words. Half the time a lot of these rappers can't even make coherent songs, and just lower the standard when they get popular by clowns who just claim they like the beats, even though most trap beats are pretty much the same slow snare tap in most songs anyway. This soundcloud generation really helped make rap shitty today.

@ronnie8271

2 жыл бұрын

For me it’s a matter of how it makes me feel, the lyrics aren’t serious they’re goofy and catchy and it just makes me have a good time when I listen to music I do it to have fun not to closely listen because it’s considered “good”

@youforget1000thingsaday

Жыл бұрын

​@@GeteMachineTrue sh*t. The tin can roof beats and incoherent mumbling fvcked the game up big time.

21 Savage has evolved

@anthonyt425

3 жыл бұрын

His evolution was dope AF.

@philosophy20

3 жыл бұрын

Definetly evolved from album one to album two.

@speakyourlyfe

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@EclecticoIconoclasta

3 жыл бұрын

21 Savage was from the beginning a gangsta rapper with a more serious tone to his music. Afterwards he started to become an almost concious rapper up to the point of having J. Cole as a feature. He ended up winning a Grammy

@RandomBlackGamer

3 жыл бұрын

21 was never a mumble rapper imo. He just came out around the time style was taking off.

When you base your whole career on riding a wave, your career crashes when the wave does.

@johnindigo5477

3 жыл бұрын

You came retreat with the ocean and come in with the next wave. Or merge with the sand.

@djdigital3806

3 жыл бұрын

🤔

@frailty327

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@MarceloAbans

3 жыл бұрын

Happens in every genre of music,.

@dwnturn

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you evolve!

Back in the old days it was the bars that made up for the beat, now the beat makes up for the bars, and the vocals are just for a vibe

As a metal head first I learned pretty early on that there is going to be movements in your preferred genre you just don't get. I don't think any other genre has spawned so many offshoots as metal or has gatekeepers as stubborn. Music is going to evolve. Have to learn that you don't need to personally like something to accept and not be a tool about it. Crunk core is a perfect example and it touches both rap and metal. It's bad. It's also perfectly valid.

@Samoan_Metalhead

2 жыл бұрын

We need more Metalheads like you. I can go from Schoolboy Q, Kendrick Lamar to Dying Fetus and Black Sabbath

@brooklyn1daful

2 жыл бұрын

Metal YUCK🤢🤢

@TheBucketSkill

2 жыл бұрын

@@brooklyn1daful Lol metal encompasses too many genres. You like some form of it, you just don't know it.

@badxgrass

2 жыл бұрын

@@brooklyn1daful You are the perfect example of what his comment was talking about, Deadpool.

@EJD339

2 жыл бұрын

@@badxgrass I mean I don’t like metal but doesn’t mean it’s bad lol. All genres of music can bring something to the table and are cool in their own right imo

Uzi: i make feel good music. Yachty: i make positive music. 21: i make murder music 🗡️.

@paradoxr.n.o8688

3 жыл бұрын

Damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@JayColeBoy

3 жыл бұрын

How can mumble rap be out if nothing is here replacing it?

@snurcle

3 жыл бұрын

Feel like 21, “issa knife”

@kinggeee9570

3 жыл бұрын

Trayvhon McCall true

@coajdka

3 жыл бұрын

@@JayColeBoy what?

Short answer: People are 3 years older and out of high school

@Nevgetdamoney

3 жыл бұрын

I literally was about to comment this

@numetalguitarist2377

3 жыл бұрын

Do high schoolers really listen to this trash?

@backupstandup5465

3 жыл бұрын

yea but we listen to lil uzi and 21 savage still there just not considered mumble rappers

@numetalguitarist2377

3 жыл бұрын

@@backupstandup5465 no one over the age of 12 listens to that trash

@sigiIkore

3 жыл бұрын

nu metal guitarist speak for yourself bub

Mos Def himself said, "if you wanna know where hip-hop is going, ask yourself where you are going". Ppl are gonna enjoy this turn up music in high school, then they will eventually grow up. Look at 21 for an example, he's wayy more mature now. Even Lil Baby has broken the mumble rapper mold and he made some conscious hip hop. Ppl like Polo G are the next step. He takes the trap style of mumble rap he grew up with, but he's more mature than that so he comments on street life and his music is pretty conscious too. Hip hop is going to a good place. We just have to have faith in the younger generation

@weekendwarrior5732

3 жыл бұрын

Throw in dababy as well

@NoctuaOW

3 жыл бұрын

@@weekendwarrior5732 true Kirk was pretty good tbh but he kinda reverted back to just straight turn up music lol

@no1u521

3 жыл бұрын

Is that IAMJAYCE as your profile pic lmao

@NoctuaOW

3 жыл бұрын

@@no1u521 yessir

@balmainrichard1335

3 жыл бұрын

@@weekendwarrior5732 man I love dababy but his quality and his music has gotten greyscale lately.

people that can enjoy and appreciate all forms of music and don’t think they are better just cuz of the music they listen to >>>

@linojvni2038

3 жыл бұрын

banger

@Realkeepa

3 жыл бұрын

wrong at all

@atlas5777

2 жыл бұрын

That’s because we’re young bro, just give it a few decades, we’ll probably be ragging on the new gen just like these old heads talking about how they’re not as melodic as Uzi or some shit. I’m gonna try not to be that way but that’s how it is with humanity and aging

As much as I don't really like the whole "mumble rap movement", I completely understand why it became so popular. It was something different, creative, and something new. I think people are little by little getting over it, but the one thing that I really don't agrere with is how wide the boundaries of hip-hop are. The fact that IGOR is considered a hip-hop album just goes to show that either people havent heard the damn album or it gets thrown in there bc tyler is a black male hip hop artist

@MotiMota15

3 жыл бұрын

Arya Mazandarani how is igor not hip hop

@dntwasteit8547

3 жыл бұрын

Arya Mazandarani creative? They’re all defendants of Young Thug who is a descendant of Lil Wayne and 95% are flow biters

@andrewsnay3356

3 жыл бұрын

Mw this is the most accurate take-Wayne has had crazy influence on the rap game and the follow up to that was Thug, who has had so many rapping styles and melodies over the years, eventually other people start to sound like him

@jayvondavis1558

3 жыл бұрын

Mori Kriman It would really be easier for you to explain how it is Hip Hop

@MotiMota15

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayvondavis1558 its a fusion of hip hop and soul with a lofi flair

HipHopMadness: Mumble rap lost its cool BlackySpeakz: Mumble rap doesn't even exist

@mihai5214

3 жыл бұрын

Recruit

@codeytherex5954

3 жыл бұрын

MUMBLE rap does not Exist That's a FACT

@selfishbeats

3 жыл бұрын

It does exist it’s a colloquial term that encompasses all low skill level, non rappers .

@isaiahstubbs9615

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t exist. It’s all art.

@selfishbeats

3 жыл бұрын

Isaiah Stubbs some forms of art are clearly lesser... Mumble rappers are out here drawing stick figures while a lyricist paints pictures.

Mumble rap has evolved since its inception 6 years ago. Those that evolved along with it and found their own sound/styles (Carti, Uzi, 21, NBA etc) are arguably the leaders of a new age of rap going into the 2020s. While those that only rode the mumble rap wave and refused to change (Pump, Xan, Desiigner etc) simply died along with the trend.

@priyanshunaiya7853

Жыл бұрын

Preach 🙏

@diarrheapool

Жыл бұрын

these names suck

I swear these videos don’t be saying shit, just convoluted sentences that sound intelligent but really have nothing of substance lol

@onyxt3589

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jonathanmorton9197

3 жыл бұрын

Ong feels like he had to make his essay 3 pages long

@relentlesseducator

3 жыл бұрын

you are correct as the whole point is to keep you on the screen long enough to squeeze in more ads. The whole game is dragging out your attention not having substance, Its so wack

@renehopkinson5079

3 жыл бұрын

So true its like he's just talking and its spinning im my ears So annoying

@ericglenn9984

3 жыл бұрын

It sound good tho. Talking bout shit that we all lived through like we wasn't there

Does a video on a old head topic, gets an old head sponsor lol

@jakebrown1535

3 жыл бұрын

Samad Savage 😂😂

@thonusvg7281

3 жыл бұрын

Facts dumb ass topic for a clout chasing youtuber 😂😂 sad to see

@0_ozzy

3 жыл бұрын

The puns are strong in this one

@kristoffernaslund9455

3 жыл бұрын

Did not expect to be reminded of my ongoing hair loss lol.

@Qokdnzjuql7163

3 жыл бұрын

LMAOOOO

RIP The Soundcloud Rap Era 2016-2019

@abdullahraja4740

3 жыл бұрын

69 is from the sound cloud era and he made billboard #1 couple of weeks ago. Uzi has 26 billboard charting songs this year. Don’t think you know enough 😬

@justarandomguy7224

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahraja4740 69 got to one cuz of nicki hes actually shit

@SCF721

3 жыл бұрын

@@justarandomguy7224 69 had a bunch of #1 songs before Nicki though

@Justin_Cunningham

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahraja4740 just because those artists are still active doesn't mean the soundcloud era has persisted. The era ended with Juice Wrlds death and 6ix9ines trial among other things. Maybe you should do some research yourself instead of insulting people.

@jordanscott2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@SCF721 no he doesn't he a bunch of top ten hits but only one number 1 single

A big problem I see with this generation in hip-hop is just the lack of competition. When everybody has their own lane, that means nobody has to compete. Where there's no competition there is no discipline. Without discipline, there is no cause for greatness.

@Bcilloz

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

I agree Hip Hop is supposed to evolve, but mumbling isn’t evolving. That devolving Hip Hop

@wm_9640

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on. Change doesn’t always = evolution. But hey I guess we’re just cranky old heads who “just don’t get it” lol smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

@dfredankey

3 жыл бұрын

@@wm_9640 you are just an old head y’all listening to messages too damn much I can listen to cole and new age both saying shit I fw I don’t need to be motivated all the time

@RaytellSmokes74

3 жыл бұрын

It always have evolved because it hasn’t been around for even 100 years. Next up is melodic rap. Similar to the Tpain era but revamped. I can name a dozen mumble rappers from the 80s and 90s

@Acedegenerate07

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaytellSmokes74 name em

@Acedegenerate07

2 жыл бұрын

@@dfredankey point still stands ha

No lie but Melodic rap is taking over right now

@BirdieImagineeBCH

3 жыл бұрын

Can you name me upcoming melodic artists/rappers and put me on?

@jerseygetsherwetter345

3 жыл бұрын

@@BirdieImagineeBCH stay solid rocky

@kendrickisthegoat7491

3 жыл бұрын

imaginee Roddy Ricch, Rod Wave, NBA Youngboy, Young Thug, YNW Melly, etc.

@kendrickisthegoat7491

3 жыл бұрын

nu metal guitarist okay sure your opinion. But I myself like all rap and love the variety that it has very broad genre and I prefer music/beats to rapping and a lot of “mumble” rappers have the best production imo especially the biggest of all mumble rappers Playboi Carti the beats he uses no other rapper could get on them because they’re not suited for rapping but they sound great and carti does what he can with the beat given

@lilmilkdud6874

3 жыл бұрын

nu metal guitarist music is completely subjective so nothing is really trash

Not gonna lie this was a stain on the game im kinda glad there are more skilled rappers coming in the game now

@littlebiplop7015

2 жыл бұрын

like who?

2015-2019 era of Rap should be remembered like every other one. We got good and bad music, but what we did get was the ability of rappers coming from independent backgrounds with crazy or wacky personalities and fashion sense, to be successful while keeping their own style without bending over for a major label.

The rappers today not sounding like rappers back then, and rapping different is to be expected. Young people are always rebellious and don’t like doing what older people tell them to do, they like doing their own thing. The younger generation being rebellious isn’t just rap its society in general.

@prod.eenigma

3 жыл бұрын

And even then keeping rap the same would end up being the same as the death of rock. The same style was so overused in the 80s that it killed the genre

@koolkid533

3 жыл бұрын

@@prod.eenigma exactly

@numetalguitarist2377

3 жыл бұрын

Mumbling about bitches, money and drugs is so rebelious right lol lol. You know who was a REBELL? machine head, sepultura, system of a down

@numetalguitarist2377

3 жыл бұрын

@@koolkid533 there is NOTHING rebellious in being a no talent drug addict

@youngethoo4xx648

3 жыл бұрын

Rap is rap

Believe or not this is not a new phenomenon. In Jazz, they had something called scatting which they would rhythmically say nonsensical words as part of the song

@alfredmohammed9197

3 жыл бұрын

Very underrated comment, this is not new. But just like mumble rap today it sort of died out.

@elijahgavin6706

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Yungd1se on IG, he has a small following from rapping without any actual words. Fucking hilarious

@affiqborhannuddin

3 жыл бұрын

@@alfredmohammed9197 Agreed

@markoramirezz

3 жыл бұрын

@Luke Ik this has nun to do w anything but yachtys real name is miles 😂

@NiteDriv3r

3 жыл бұрын

@@alfredmohammed9197 Jazz as a whole died out

I love how when mumble rap was huge it was, "Nah, these oldhead rappers need to adapt" and not even half a decade later these same mumble rappers have had to adapt. If that isn't irony I don't know what is.

@roddur1000

2 жыл бұрын

Lol theyre still more relevant than lyrical rappers

@monot00nz

2 жыл бұрын

@@roddur1000 popular and relevant aren't the same thing

@SonnySantana2099

2 жыл бұрын

@@roddur1000 they arent

@deanbenford7363

2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they even thought their run would be long, kids move on to the "next" shit real quick.

i know i have said this before, but imma say it again anyway. "mumble rap" doesn't exist and it never did. the whole "mumble rap" wave was just "trap music" with another title. ' "mumble rap" was just a way for old-heads to refer to modern hip-hop/rap. the wave never existed as "mumble rap", and most of the artists mentioned/shown in this video (uzi, kodak, 21, future, lil baby, gunna, and thugga) are still popular. they don't even mumble in their music. maybe artists like young thug and carti mumble a bit, but you can still hear them well. the artists i mentioned (who are commonly classified as "mumble rappers") didn't lose their popularity. the wave they are a part of didn't lose it's "cool". it never existed as "mumble rap" in the first place.

@JordanWilliams-ix2td

2 жыл бұрын

doesnt matter all the "rappers" you listed are trash

@modarnwarfare2rull

2 жыл бұрын

@@JordanWilliams-ix2td Young Thug is one of the goats lmao, stay mad old head

@_ry4n.s217

2 жыл бұрын

@@JordanWilliams-ix2td crazy how u fall so hard into this perfect box of "old head" constantly shitting on whats new and different is so cornball. old rap is dope asf, and so is new rap. and all those rappers are some of the biggest out rn and u cant just generalize a whole gen of music. its ignorant

I think "mumble rap" was something that HAD to happen for the culture, it had to be gotten out of the way. But the fact that nearly all the rappers from the 2016 XXL Class ended up successful showed it was more of a stepping stone other than a stage in the history of rap.

@sereroserera367

3 жыл бұрын

I don't really see the correlation. Their success only shows there was a demand for it.

@xxnirvandabossxx8304

3 жыл бұрын

@@sereroserera367 I like it man I don't want it to die

@oceanbreeze1162

3 жыл бұрын

@@sereroserera367 most have evolved. Besides, idk how one can listen to lil uzi or 21 savage and say it's mumble. Playboi carti, future, kodak (some songs) are all actual mumble

@Realkeepa

3 жыл бұрын

like teledubbys?

@Realkeepa

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxnirvandabossxx8304 kid

If it sounds good, Ill listen to it. 🤷‍♀️ Every song doesnt need amazing lyrics

@treefiddytwoo

3 жыл бұрын

true but it can’t sound fkn brain dead either

@dionpace22

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Music is just supposed to sound good to whoever think it's sounds good to. If you want amazing bars there's artist that give you that

@DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420

3 жыл бұрын

But there are artist that can make music sound great and have amazing lyrics

@hostedbytristan

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@printezstroman

3 жыл бұрын

A song is lyrics put to music. The lyrics are very important.

I never cared for mumble rap from its inception. However, I understood its importance in the genre and how it gravitated people in with its melodic style and eccentric characters. Yet, at the end of the day, people grow up and yearn for substance and complexity. So, if the people don't evolve or grow they get left behind like so many fads before it. That's exactly what's happening: kids are growing up, artists are not popping the way it was like in the beginning, oversaturated the market and no long term goals.

2016 is still my favorite XXL Freshman cypher. I still listen to listen to a lot of Lil Yachty and Lil Uzi Vert.

Uhhh, you can exclude Anderson .Paak too. Not only is he “lyrically adept”, he’s in a category all his own.

@pastense

3 жыл бұрын

YUNG KULA bruh, if you call him rnb, then you really don’t know what rnb is...smh

@pastense

3 жыл бұрын

YUNG KULA but he’s rappin too tho. Whether you accept it or not, brotha is rappin. Like I said...he in a category all himself. Ppl (like yourself) just don’t wanna year what he sayin. Sucks for u.

@pastense

3 жыл бұрын

@YUNG KULA he not, neither would he say so. And nowhere near Nelly...wtf?? lol u really DON'T understand...

@MichaelNixjr

3 жыл бұрын

pastense d riding

@pastense

3 жыл бұрын

Lord Sur-Eeb get off ya own D. This is game recognize game, chump.

It’s had it’s run and it died in 2019. You have to have skills there’s no way around that.

@Historicutuber

3 жыл бұрын

Amen lol

@edk487

3 жыл бұрын

Lil uzi and future are still popping

@coollibra3644

3 жыл бұрын

@@edk487 last ones hanging on. Real skill is coming back.

@zakyyy10

3 жыл бұрын

@@edk487 Uzi, Future, Lil Baby and even Gunna have the best selling albums this year lol and Thugger, Migos and 21 will drop and go platinium and some consider Travis a mumbler too but he still the hottest out but every year old heads be like "skill is coming back" lmao I mean my favorite rappers are all lyrical but what they call "mumble rap" isnt gonna die cuz rappers like Future who been consistent since 2010 or Thugger who birthed a whole generation arent gonna fall off just like that by tomorrow

@MK-ov5cf

3 жыл бұрын

Cool Libra remind me someone w “real skill” who popping rn...

Not everyone can stay consistent with bangers and stay relevant like Future and Young thug , they are the goats of the trap industry

"It's just the times bro. Let the times be." That has to be the most creative excuse for being garbage and not being ashamed of being garbage I have ever heard.

@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

Mumble rap is like fast food, it feels good but you don't really get nothing out of it

@ericglenn9984

3 жыл бұрын

Like this video

@dj2coo769

3 жыл бұрын

Mumble rap is horrible 😂

@BoqPrecision

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like this narrator is a kid and I'm sorely in need of a more mature in-depth analysis of mumble raps rise and fall

@dfredankey

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoqPrecision shit didn’t fall @ all still going up

@Acedegenerate07

2 жыл бұрын

@@dfredankey nope its falling

Rap/Hip-hop is SUPPOSED to be ever changing, there's something for everybody.

I think another big exception in this class besides curry is Anderson Paak. He also has a melodic style, but in a much more traditional kind of soul/funk direction that I think a lot more people can appreciate.

2016 was like the 2nd wave of mumble rap cause we had Lil B, Young thug, gucci mane, and chief keef before them.

@sskooda

3 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

@malcolmxpanther

2 жыл бұрын

Lil Wayne isn’t a mumble rapper lol

@reggielaco2468

2 жыл бұрын

That just how chief keef rap that set him apart from all the other rappers you can tell they trying to mumble but it was just slow and natural for keef.

@xprtbillyun

2 жыл бұрын

Lil Wayne has never

@emykumbalek2330

2 жыл бұрын

Me and my drank by lil wayne ... my dad use to say all he did was mumble back in 2008 he definitely created that shit ...auto ... the drug raps ...... me and my drank ... I feel like like dying ...

21, Uzi, Even Yatchy evolved. Mumble rap been dead.

@MrDeathShotz

3 жыл бұрын

Uzi grew on me a LOT even though I didn't really like him too much when I first heard him but he's definitely in my top 5 current artists.

@petersocko9135

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDeathShotz me too i listen to at least 1 uzi song everyday

@14kjonathan83

3 жыл бұрын

Kodak really doesn’t mumble it’s his accent people don’t understand but since I’m from Florida I can tell you exactly what he said Kodak is pretty lyrical just look at his lyrics

@The_Backman

3 жыл бұрын

@@14kjonathan83 I got family from Florida and can back up what you say man. Ppl don't know shit🙏💯

@14kjonathan83

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Backman fax man, respect how kind you are 🎯

Hell nah I was confused once that Keeps ad popped up..like wtf mumble rap got to do with male pattern baldness😅gotta pay closer attention

@brandonmcmillion8612

3 жыл бұрын

Bro I swear they know my hairline fucked up lmao

@atlegangmatlala7858

3 жыл бұрын

Mans could've made a joke about how all these rappers gonna be balding because of the damage to their hair and tied it into the video in a smart way, he was a little abrupt with the ad.

@Mr.8point5

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus haha I’m sayin,caught me off guard

I was in college when these guys were at the top. That was all we played. That 2016 class was at the frontlines of popular music. I still listen and these guys are all almost gone, and a new wave is here. I do really like these newer guys but it is sad to feel old lol

@musahaque2000

Жыл бұрын

I was in high school and even then I wasn't down with most of them because they really were wack, there were more underrated artists comin' out at the same time who didn't get the same fame cause they weren't jumpin' on that train.

Mumble rap In general can’t compare to the old school greats of that time lyrics, bars rhymes and insane beats.

Gimmicks go stale after a while. Real music sticks. Look at Young thug. He was mumbling like crazy before. Now you can clearly hear him rap.

@miguelg.3884

3 жыл бұрын

Still trash though

@sphakamisozondi

3 жыл бұрын

@@miguelg.3884 Exactly. Lol, my arguement was on gimmicks. Thug (trash as he is) grew out of that, and solicited help from J cole. Because, mumble rap has no future.

@angel.1202

3 жыл бұрын

@@sphakamisozondi hes literally the father of current rappers

@LegendaryMamba24

3 жыл бұрын

Miguel G. so you just watched a whole video about appreciating modern art forms and understanding cultural trends and yet you still call Young Thug trash 🤔. He’s a great artist imo, just not in the traditional rap sense

@babyorenji4211

3 жыл бұрын

Thug (imo) uses his voice like an instrument. Doesn't matter what he is saying because he is sonically pleasing

“Mumble rap” started in the south as their own local sound, but as those guys got more popular & ppl from other plces started listening they either fucked with it or hated it like most new things that come out. It was a fusion of thick southern accents accompanied by “trap” slang from the south with a melodic take on rap(sometimes lean thrown in there lol..). Eastcoast is known for more lyrical based content, it makes sense why nyc rappers were some of the more vocal ones about how they couldn’t understand it & sorta ripping on the newer sound as a whole. Some of the influences i think took hiphop here are: Weezy for his late 2000s style of melodic auto tune rap, in comparison to a tpain who also used auto tune but was known more for cleaner radio friendly kinda style where as lil wayne was just as raw on his auto tune type tracks. Gucci mane for his lyrical content , accent & slang as a whole . As in talking about trapping, hustling, or jus his street sense & terms in general. Chief keef for fusing gucci and weezy while adding his own sauce to the mix, but most importantly being young and connecting to younger fans, he brought it all to a whole new generation & paved the way for everyone after in a sense I didnt think this comment would end up being this long, but i really thought about it for a minute lol. Up for debate on it tho ahaa. Much love, thanks for reading, i could really go on and on lol EDIT** added to what i meant about Guccis lyrical content. Not gona take the time to fix the typos or fill in the slang here lol jus wanted to create room for a convo

@jameshamilton5947

3 жыл бұрын

U think Gucci lyrical and not Lil Wayne!?

@acanadianeh8344

3 жыл бұрын

James Hamilton lil wayne is in my top5 lyricists of all time ! Love weezy aha. I guess i shoulda added I meant gucci’s lyrical content about trapping, hustling, his street sense & terms in general, weezy forsure contributed to the new waves lyrical content too but they’re not as bar heavy as lil wayne

@acanadianeh8344

3 жыл бұрын

Spencer fully agree ! I feel like it falls under the “melodic rap” umbrella rather than “mumble”, but everything you mentioned are deff their own respective subgenres. There’s cross overs between collabs or artists fusing other sub genres but there’s still room to differentiate to categorize

@jameshamilton5947

3 жыл бұрын

@@acanadianeh8344 Ok

@acanadianeh8344

3 жыл бұрын

Spencer honestly i feel like if drill can find a way into the mainstream sound it deff can be more than a street/underground culture. With bigger names supporting/shouting out drill artists & even collabs, theres huge crossover potential into mainstream. Thing is, melodic rap was able to be cleaned up a little then feature a pop artist or 2 & sell millions of records, it was able to crossover from the streets to the mainstream just by already having catchy melodies but also a street appeal, basically college kids to street dudes could buy into the sound hence rap being mor popular now than ever. But we all kno what kinda rap sells and what kinda rap fans usually jus bump in the whip by themselves or with their boys, drill jus needs to somehow gain some pop appeal, a lotta ppl would think it loses its pop appeal if so tho

It was never cool to be begin with.

The essence of Hip Hop can't be destroyed. Some of us "old heads" remember the hell we went through get rap accepted as a skilled art form, so the narrative that it was ok not to have skills will never sit well. Mumble rap was just a way for A&R's to be lazy and feed off of young artists. Only genre to have this issue is rap. Today I notice songs that are clearly RnB (people are literally holding notes) being classified as rap. I had a flashback to early 90's when the Grammy's would put rap in an RnB category. Again, the only genre to have this issue is black music.

Sometime between the age of 25-28 I realized hiphop is not marketed for people aged over 25 very rarely does a new artist can make someone 25 and older gravitate to a NEW artist

@viernes1999

2 жыл бұрын

Rare indeed

@DarthVantos

2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty bad for rap. Considering Pop, rock and other genres can get new listens over 30. This isolates Rap in generations.

@aaronlampkin284

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarthVantos Blame old heads and new age fans.

@hakeemsd70m

Жыл бұрын

I'm in my late 20s now, and I agree with this. I've actually stopped listening to trap music all together, with the exception of some older Gucci Mane songs that I grew up with from the late 00s and early 10s.

Another thing is hip hop needs new beats, most beats just sound the same now and these producers need to switch it up

@dwaynejpeterkin

3 жыл бұрын

Do something about it

@koena4lyf

3 жыл бұрын

Gunna kinda broke that cycle with WUNNA, but it has to fit your style like how the beats fitted Gunna's rap flow and melodies

@finbar5421

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ek2uf7yj5r pop smoke will be seen as insanely ahead of his time

@aciredunn4604

3 жыл бұрын

Listen to different producers lol

@Rams1002KDKiller

3 жыл бұрын

Well, then actually go and look for music aside from mainstream trap. Production and experimentation with sounds is at all time levels right now. I recommend Knxwledge's "1988" and Slauson Malone's "A Quiet Farewell" as two prime examples of all time great production work from the last year and a half.

You're videos are kind of addictive. Good job 👏

Hated it when it first came out, but now I listen to these artists whose music aged quickly and badly and think like "damn where did the time go?".. I mean it's still trash but it's also a guilty pleasure for me now, crazy to believe it was 5 years ago this was poppin, that's half a decade now

More like "how the term mumble rap lost it's cool" if Lil Baby and Roddy would've blew up in 2016 they wouldve def been called "mumble rappers" by the annoying old heads. Them two killing the game right now

@socialmediakilledthemc1462

3 жыл бұрын

They still wack tho..

@Christian-eq6pq

3 жыл бұрын

Social Media Killed The MC Even you don’t believe Roddy is wack. Just because someone isn’t rapping like Lupe Fiasco or Nas doesn’t mean they’re bad

@stann.3408

3 жыл бұрын

They are far from mumble rap wtf are you talking about lmaoo.. Listen to Lil Baby.. then Carti, they are different

@socialmediakilledthemc1462

3 жыл бұрын

@@Christian-eq6pq Too me he's wack because they lack creativity & substance... He will be gone sooner than later & others will replace him. That will never happen with ones like NAS & Lupe Fiasco.

@socialmediakilledthemc1462

3 жыл бұрын

@@stann.3408 I won't listen to a grown man calling himself a baby because he's wack...I didn't say he does mumble rap...his just trash doing what he do.

I’m 29 and came up on pac, biggie, snoop, DMX, and bone thugs. Jayz is my favorite artist. But I’m not with knocking the young artists or downplaying their hard work or talent. Shit anything that allows them to make it out the hood and feed their families is straight with me. Can’t believe people mad at that lol. Let’s stop acting like vanilla ice, Mc Hammer , and uncle Luke and them didn’t exist in the “golden era” of rap lol:

@bigkev9539

3 жыл бұрын

*True, but you never hear Vanilla Ice, Mc Hammer, or Uncle Luke being praised as "the greatest".*

@shauncameron8390

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigkev9539 Or Mase, Diddy (Puff Daddy), Master P, Silkk The Shocker, Ja Rule, etc.

@ExeErdna

3 жыл бұрын

@Luke Nobody actively bumped Mase tho it's like he ends up on maybe a song or two yet MASE by himself? Hell nah. I remember people dogging Master P and Ja Rule. We Tolerated Ja because Ashanti was gonna murder her part of the track.

@tynew8650

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigkev9539 you did by their city or state

@user-ke3sp6kl1i

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigkev9539 yeah but nobody was calling lil pump, 6ix9ine, ugly god the greatest either. Clearly the quote on quote “mumble rapper” like carti, future, thugger, 21, uzi are still relevant as they are actually good

I called it years ago. Mumble rap is like disco except that producers won’t sample most songs lol. In terms of XXL thing you can’t leave G Herbo and Dave East lyricism out of the equation. But in general, to get to the tier in which Nas, Rakim occupy, it takes a transcendent or a couple transcendent albums to be up there with those two.

I’d hope as a rap fan would never say Kodak Uzi or 21 are “ mumble rappers”. If you think they are you don’t listen to them. Simple.

@Razor_Gaming

3 жыл бұрын

I listen to all 3 of them and I believe kodak is a mumble rapper but not 21 or uzi

I don’t understand the point of this video. All the artists mentioned are all still extremely relevant. “Mumble Rap” was never even a genre it was just some label that old heads used to shit on new-gen rappers.

@camquest1

3 жыл бұрын

💯💯🤝🤝🤝 I agree w everything you just said

@revengeofthesith.

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@cyrusj9625

3 жыл бұрын

i think the word ‘mumble rap’ was meant to mean the low skill rappers. or rappers who don’t have much substance to their music and just mainly rely on beats as they have no skill or abilities. i wouldn’t consider uzi a mumble rapper cuz we can understand what he’s actually saying. 21 savage used to mumble a lot in his music but now he has improved and has a lot of substance in his music, future idk about him but i don’t fw his mysic

@camquest1

3 жыл бұрын

cyrus J what does that even mean? 90% of rappers “have substance”. Explain to me how a rapper in the 80s going “hip hop hoppity uh hippity” and a rapper in the 90s talking about killing ppl/fucking bitches is any better or more meaningful than what ppl make today. You barely listen to rap I can tell

@LosHomiesDre

3 жыл бұрын

camquest1 that was When hip hop first started lmao And Clubs era where hip hop first came out in the late 70’s and early 80’s But that’s not the modern Old head that’s from the late 80’s and the Whole 90’s where Lyrics where at its Peak and higher production

people miss the hype wavy 2016 - 2017 carti , uzi , uno , mexikodro , fauni , d savage.

@wanja-

3 жыл бұрын

oliver

@DaRealYungRay

3 жыл бұрын

back in 2013 i had NO IDEA that rap would sound like that in 2016/17

Good. I've been waiting for this momment to happen since it started.

You can't lose something you never had...

who believes it’s possible to still do ‘mumble rap’ and still be creative, tell a good story and and be clear with ill vocabulary? out the whole lot I’d say Curry and 21 are the two closest there.

@alfredschnozzenstein1657

2 жыл бұрын

I think they’re trash

I genuinely love your videos. Keep up the good work❤️🙌🏻

When It lost it's cool?? When was mumble rap ever cool?? It was the doorway to dumbing down real talent and lyricism in HIPHOP. Mumble rap gave an excuse to be lazy and not think, when it came to story telling and real creativity in rhyming. I never thought mumble rap was cool. Put most of them in a real rap battle and they'd ball up in a corner like babies.

@Realkeepa

3 жыл бұрын

exactly.i call it shitpop ore poptrap

@JordanWilliams-ix2td

2 жыл бұрын

perfectly said

@mrgeorgeleach7498

2 жыл бұрын

Fo' sho'

@christophergepullano9029

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Mumble rap is alive n well 😭

This was obvious I'm surprised it lasted this long a new wave will come but real rap never will b a fad. And rainbow rap will have a spot in the culture too Hip Hop is the best man

@yasha42oth

3 жыл бұрын

It was nice to finally read a positive comment. New stuff wasn't terrible imo, I enjoyed a ton of music and it has its place as every type does in Hip Hop.

@FeltonHM

3 жыл бұрын

well all the new rappers coming up are mostly melodic auto tune trap rappers. Not saying it's a bad thing i fuck with that type of music but "traditional" lyrical rap is kinda fading away.

@dntwasteit8547

3 жыл бұрын

F H M nah Griselda and Roc Marciano made it cool to actually rap again

@AikiraBeats

3 жыл бұрын

Right by 2018 I was glad it stopped cause it was going on for way too long

@13thera21

3 жыл бұрын

@@FeltonHM lyrical rap is still relevant just look at the rise of Dreamville. Its just that lyrical rap needs to learn to evolve too, just like melodic and mumble rap did.

Thank God, one of the worst things to happen to rap imo. I'm not an old head where I can't get into new forms of rap, some of the best hip hop ever made is happening now, but mumble rap was a huge regression for the genre

@dwaynejpeterkin

3 жыл бұрын

Worse than ringtone rap 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

@Crazelord91

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwaynejpeterkin Maybe 😂. At least ring tone rap had some fyre choruses. But there have been many regressive rap genres through the decades

@blab3481

3 жыл бұрын

just curious. Which new albums do you consider some of the best hip hop ever made. Any suggestions?

@dwaynejpeterkin

3 жыл бұрын

@@Crazelord91 laffy taffy bot lyrical beither is pop lock it drop it 🤔🤔🤔if anything that era worse than todays era just as bad as the auto tune era

@treefiddytwoo

3 жыл бұрын

Blab34 are you legitimately asking or being spiteful? because they do exist. just not gonna give a list out of pettiness

Man had me at “..hey you there!/ I’m going to the store!

Hey look at 21 he was a hard mumble rapper. Now he is a r&b singer who did a song with Alicia keys.

@liltree8382

3 жыл бұрын

Andre S. Lmfaooo😂are you serious

Hip hop is about being different. So if everyone is saying do it this way or that way , it’s just going to make kids do the complete opposite

@zacker5109

3 жыл бұрын

Who said hip-hop is about being different when most of current hip-hop artists sound same🤷

@vlowdadon

3 жыл бұрын

Because it's not about being different. It's about being original. Well it used to be any.

@1m2a3t4t5

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacker5109 current? says who? maybe the guys who were heavily influenced by thug or sum. But what you said just comes across as a cliche trope

Learn something new everytime i watch one of your videos bro !! You a goat at this no Kizzy 😤🐐💯 Keep Going

RE: How Mumble Rap Loss Its Cool When was it ever cool?

I swear I been watching this channel since yesterday, this and some dude named Patrick cc. And literally thanks to you two, I had absolutely no clue we had so many damn rappers out here currently. I was only aware of the most popular dudes. But that’s just cuz I didn’t like nor follow the mumble rap dudes. There were some stand outs. Like 21, HATED him at first til he had one song that came on the radio like 3 years after he gained popularity. Can’t remember what it was, but it was straight heat. Then I heard him feature on a song with Meek Mill, bruh SLAUGHTERED his verse. Then A Lot hit the air waves and maaaan I been sleep on 21 for real.

God, you guys make 2016 sound like 1916

“Except Denzel” bruh don’t disrespect lil herb like that he is not a mumble rapper

@sky14shonmosley

3 жыл бұрын

1-800-Wavy you like 69 huh

@viktorvaughn8192

3 жыл бұрын

Neither is uzi

@1k_okt

3 жыл бұрын

skyshon mosley 😂 right like wtf.. Herb is still hard to this day!

@railroadforest30

3 жыл бұрын

the_only gamerlmao facts

@OGKWAM

3 жыл бұрын

“G Herbo you know me I guess ima freshman now but I been a OGGG”

you can't lose something you never had

@hueykhalidX

3 жыл бұрын

What?

I’m glad ya mentioned Flatbush Zombies🙌 love them dudes.

I swear to god this video is made every single year

This man said “mumble rap” in 2020

@magicvampirelver1321

3 жыл бұрын

So... it is mumble... mumble ain't that old few years or something it came out lol

@romanhurst7

3 жыл бұрын

magicVAMPIRE løver13 the term is just something negative and it’s annoying

@dende_ult714

3 жыл бұрын

@@romanhurst7 and makes no sense

@lilmoca784

3 жыл бұрын

@@romanhurst7 facts

@romanhurst7

3 жыл бұрын

It’s just a term oldheads use to put trap in a negative connotation

All I can say is Coleworld tried to tell them boys. KOD was letting a whole generation know the path they were headed for.

Mumble rap was never cool. Thank god it ended in 2018.

Kodak an 21 not mumble rappers y’all jus ain never took a real listen💯 only real the gon relate to dem

@bagchasermt7953

3 жыл бұрын

Zeno Kyriakides Nbs he was a demon before the drugs got to him🤦‍♂️

Can't lose something you never had.

3:26 I ain't gon lie tht "Hey...u... there, I'm.. at the..store..." had me dying🤣🤣

Mumble Rap= Face tattoos, skirts, dresses, man bags, dreadlocks, dope beats and whatever The Record Label says

More relative is “How Trap Is Falling Off”

@dwaynejpeterkin

3 жыл бұрын

Music evolves every few years trap will not be around forever like gangsta rap

@herewegoagain425

3 жыл бұрын

Gangster rap never died. It just got better. Trap and drill music are sub-genres of it

@slapwoodsnhenny

3 жыл бұрын

Aron Janvier exactly

@kingcash48

3 жыл бұрын

Trap music will die because the main stream Trap rappers are not really trappers

@raff6147

3 жыл бұрын

kingcash it also has become a money farm. They don’t take time into making good music. They put so many songs on their album just to make more money and monetize everything. That is also shown in the recent deluxe trend. Now albums are 25+ songs.

Can’t talk about mumble rap without talking about Keef and Capo

@bennyches3028

3 жыл бұрын

Already know

@xxXFlaggXxx

3 жыл бұрын

Them two was beyond mumble rap...they was gargle rap

@TellHerNothing

3 жыл бұрын

yeah he said future smh

@legendary2553

3 жыл бұрын

emotionless ? Future was mumble rapping before the Keef tho and he popularized it

@legendary2553

3 жыл бұрын

Keef wasn’t a mumble rapper... u can literally hear everything he says. Mumble rapping is when the words are slurred and hard to enunciate.

Mumble rap will always hold a special spot in my heart. I'm 25 and still am not tired of it. And I've been a fan since 2016. It defines my young adult hood because it's all you would and still hear on the radio. I like any music that sounds good as a whole

@dondada4437

Жыл бұрын

That shit trash 😂

half of these rappers are still very big and some of the most popular rappers till this day

Last year was the nail to the coffin to mumble rap's being cool. It's still going, but slowly fading away

This is why Starlito, CyHi the Prince, J Cole etc will always feel right, it's authentic

@13thera21

3 жыл бұрын

IDK if a J Cole type rapper can get big in the current rap game, that lyrical/conscious lane seems to have stopped producing new big artists.

you can be melodic and still be lyrical.

I can't even lie, ever since the pandemic hit, rap has become lyrical again. Even the rappers that use autotune are trying to spit now.

@mynameisnotbob6369

Жыл бұрын

I'd say this started in 2019 with guys like Calboy,Polo G ,Lil Tjay ,NLE Choppa, King Von ,Pop Smoke ,Fivio Foreign ,Lil Eazzy and more, becoming mainstream,but 2020 had some straight fire tho ,also NY and Uk Drill becoming popular definitely helped.

Imo there was never any genre called mumble rap and articles have been written abt that term being false. It’s just a derogatory term to encompass all modern rap that is disliked by those older generations that stopped being able to digest, process, & understand new sounds. Some music is just for the moment.

@DeluxeDeath

2 жыл бұрын

@General Butt Naked why would u be listening to garbage music tho? Wierd

5:42 don't mind me, juss making timestamps in case I come back

Nice video essay!

Im kinda surprised you didn't mention future more. He kinda was the OG mumble rapper back in the day. He also indirectly helped panda get famous as people thought it was future who did it and we all know how big Panda was back in 2016-17.

None of the rappers in the thumbnail (other than Carti (he doesn’t speak English)) are ‘mumble rappers’

@llc8508

3 жыл бұрын

Lol because you mumble right along with them

@gore1473

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I still bump carti hard tho

@Bubs-_-

3 жыл бұрын

@@gore1473 just yesterday I went back and visited magnolia

@gore1473

3 жыл бұрын

OGPhoenix I hate that song but I like all his albums

@Bubs-_-

3 жыл бұрын

@@gore1473 I like it because it contains a WiFi password and I can milly rock. But I don't know anyone else who can

Jazz and rock both have sub genres. Why do we lump mumble rap in with more traditional hip hop. I think the old heads are trying to preserve what they came up with.

I never understood why people complain about bad hip hop. Just don’t listen to it. And it’s not like hip hop in the 90s was better it’s just that the good stuff survives the test of time. There where plenty of bad mcs back in the day to but nobody hears them anymore. Same way nobody is gonna bad music from today in 30 years. Let time prove what was good

I’d say the mumble rap era hasn’t come close to ending yet. Rappers with mumbly/melodic type flows like Lil Baby and Gunna are at the top of the game right now

@DonJulio1942

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh Lil baby ain’t a mumble rapper considering I can comprehend his lyrics