Toni (the first one) was the best in my opinion. He played pretty simple without overplaying the song. All hits in the right place. The others didnt complement the song but somehow put themself in front of the song and the rest of the band. The point is to play what the song ask you to play. Not more, not less

Great video! Drum sticks also have enormous effect on the sound. Especially with ride cymbal. I totally understand that they want to use their own but still would have been very interesting if they used the same ones.

Here is absolutely cool video. Drummer has significant impact on arrangements which then affect the vibe and feeling of the composition. And I think all 5 are really good. To choose one its just the matter of taste according to your vision of arrangement. My choice is Jakke Saarinen cause he did what I usually prefer and demand from drummers for such kind of compositions. Though I guess if you tell any of these drummers your vision everyone may follow you as they all pro. My experience goes we usually do 3-5 takes per one composition and then just listen and choose the right beats which fit the most according to the feel and vibe.

Great video thanks for posting! It's really interesting to compare the subtle differences among drummers when they're all clearly competent at their instrument. With my eyes closed, Anssi Nykanen stood out as the most musical. Here's a guy who has probably practiced 10,000 hours just to have a 5% edge over the rest.

My pick is Risto Niinikoski, his pocket and feel sounds the best to me and fits the style of the music, he and the bass player are really locked in together.

How much the drummer affects the sound: VERY MUCH. Good job from all. If I had to choose between these drummer -> Nykänen Anssi's hi-hat swims in the music and everything is so in balance with timing.

@pekkakovesjarvi6956

7 жыл бұрын

There is a story about Anssi years back when he REALLY trained drums SERIOUSLY : Some band was training at the same building as Anssi trained drums (this was sorted out afterwards). Band heard every time they had brake between songs that somebody was hitting snare with same slow frequence. This happened everytime band was silent. After few hours training band decided to have a lunch brake. After lunch band came back and and still heard somebody playing snare drum with same frequency of beat as before luch. Band kept taraining and stopped after few ours. When band member were leaving house they decided to check who was drumming an other room. They did find Anssi beating snare drum all the time with same beat frequency in different positions. Anssi was looking (= learning) how snare sounds when hitted in different parts of drum with different velocity. Band members exit training house and Anssi kept hitting snare.

Great fun to watch these! Thanks :D

I think it would be more interesting if you had each drummer play the exact same thing. Then we could really hear the difference between their playing rather than their interpretation (or the way they decide to play something).

I think they all have a unique style.....but I like the last 2 best. Both seem to get more out of the snare in both style and how hard they hit.

In the hands of Nykänen and Niinikoski the drums had more define attack and solid sound.

Just because this wasn't a competition, the winner is Sami Osala 🤣 They all had their moments on this comparison, so it's very hard to tell really, but last two left this kind of image that they were the best for me. This was an awesome video.

Drums sound marvelously, can't get in enough!

@Astiastudio

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. 🙏 That’s exactly what tape captures and it can easily be heard even if the end product is a poor quality mp3 on KZread. 😊

@TheKevbe

5 жыл бұрын

@@Astiastudio Especially kick drum has this round, tape quality, I can imagine these red lights flashing like crazy on your tape machine!

This was tough to pick a favorite. They all did wonderfully. I think the aim of the song would factor... If this were the backing of a popish single, maybe jari's straightforward hihat feel would fit best. The first drummer's verses felt best if the song were to stay an instrumental and maybe he'd edge out the others then. But that's just being nitpicky... They all sounded great. Great video idea!

Cool vid. Thanks!

I did like the Blancos drummer the best. 😎🎶👍

Great!

Great video! Maybe do another one with some more finnish drummers?

@Astiastudio

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Have you seen our previous video about drum room? It has some pretty cool Finnish drummers: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4SppKSMmazbf7A.html

btw, no surprise the session guy nailed the feel better than the rest...

Jakke..... awesome.

There's always that one lefthanded guy... LOL

Joka ukko kovia lyömään nii erot setin soudissa tosi pienet. Sovitustyylissä ja fiiliksessä (nuottimäärässä) enemmän eroja. Joka ukko perkeleen hyviä tietty!! :)

Jakke Saarinen!

Risto Niinikoski sounded best in terms of feel/groove.

So the conclusion is that it matters what the drummer plays not who is doing the drumming. Why does that just make sense to me even before hearing this?

@luttiblutti

7 жыл бұрын

Roniaaroni No uskallan epäillä että ero on kuulijan päässä.

@JulianFernandez

7 жыл бұрын

what? Who´s doing the drumming is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing ever. Gear doesn´t matter, patterns doesn´t matter. It´s all about feel and sound.

@luttiblutti

7 жыл бұрын

Doesn't come out in this video though. It might if the different drummers would play the same thing but since they all play differently it matters what they play not who's doing it.

@DrSamE

4 жыл бұрын

@@luttiblutti Todellakin on väliä kuka sen rumpu raidan soittaa, vaikka soittas tismalleen saman patternin. Et taida ite soittaa rumpuja tai tehä äänitys/tuottamis hommia?

1) rock guy 2) funky guy 3) bonem guy 4) 90s guy 5) hihat&breaks-lover guy 6) BD-striker guy

Sound? Not a lot really. Feel? A lot. Some drummers (like Jakke and Sami) use rimshots on the snare, which is the biggest differentiating factor between them sound-wise. Feel on the other hand is very different from drummer to drummer and that's what makes music.

Ainakin Salmisella on hienoin paita!!! ;)

Big like to the video! I want to know some thing, I know since the mid 90's Pro Tools, it's easy and cheap to sync not so good drummer, but some times I hear records from the mid 80's and even the early 70's, and the drummer sounds good,tight, with loosen clear dynamics. But in live, they sloppy, and there are big names like that, how back on those days they cheated? Also some early 90's death metal albums, the drums are tight as hell with dynamics, not plastic like today, and yet sloppy live, how?

@Astiastudio

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the comment. Difficult say, but all musicians have their moments and to capture such in studio has happened. Surely even back in the days of analog tape it was possible to edit it using a razor. And at least in US&A there's been said that replacement drummer wasn't a rare thing on sessions.

@matthewwellspring103

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps playing live there are other things to contend with, such as fatigue - playing a long show has an affect. Also being able to hear what you and others are playing on stage in a different acoustic setting is very different to the studio.

What are the Sabian cymbals used in the video?

@Astiastudio

5 жыл бұрын

You’ll have to ask mr Toni Paananen as everyone used his cymbals. Toni has an awesome KZread and Facebook page and he kindly replies to all questions.

@hyophans

5 жыл бұрын

@@Astiastudio Thanks!

@Astiastudio

5 жыл бұрын

Henrik Hyöppönen Olkaatten Hyvät ja otahan tuosta haltuun blogipostaukseni aiheesta Parempa rumpusaundia. Sieltä löytynee useampiakin tärkeitä vinkkejä: www.astiastudio.fi/fi/parempaa-rumpusaundia-osa-1/

"Anssi Nykänen, most recorded Finnish session drummer." Actually, that's not even close to being true. Tuomo "Nappi" Ikonen is number one, with Ilpo Kallio coming in at second. Anssi is only the third most recorded Finnish drummer.

@Astiastudio

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry about the wrong info and thank you for clearing that out for us.

I'm a bassist so don't take me seriously. I deliver pizzas and if I don't have a girlfriend I'm homeless :D It's just a joke: Toni-micromanagement Anssi-god damn God of War-heavy as F***! Jari-likes to drink, but awesome Risto-Mr. Exacto 16th Jakke-crazy Hi-hat Sami-likes to complement the sound of the band

@DrSamE

4 жыл бұрын

Pizza delivery for I.C wiener, sorry had to.