32 is the sweet spot.

@sopcannon

27 күн бұрын

16gb is bare minimum

@Definedd

27 күн бұрын

@@sopcannon true but ram is very cheap nowadays, theres plenty of games that will push system usage over 16gb nowadays

@MonicaHolly143

27 күн бұрын

​@@Defineddplenty ? Lol

@stevens1041

27 күн бұрын

100%

@sopcannon

27 күн бұрын

@@Definedd I am using 32gb of ddr4 i got for £100 3 years a go

When I was building my SFX monster I said fuck it and went for 64GB.

@stevens1041

27 күн бұрын

I paid for four DIMM slots, I'm gonna use four DIMM slots!

@tadejpeckaj1151

27 күн бұрын

@@stevens1041 SFX systems have ITX boards with only two slots.. but I used both well. 2x32GB of 6400MT goodness for my R9 7950 💪

@VanadiumMC

27 күн бұрын

@@stevens1041 After I build my pc, I'm going to get the extra 32GBs

@MrAnimescrazy

27 күн бұрын

I went with 4 sticks and 64 gigs of ddr5 with my 4090 build but I may switch to two later but I will see.

@TritanGaming

27 күн бұрын

My mate is building his $10k and going for 128gb lol

I very much appreciate you trying to control for as many of the variables possible. Some try but it seems like you have went further than most others 👍🏽

Another great video, thanks for all the bits of knowledge during the testing as well!

Look we all know 32 gigs of Ram is the sweet spot currently.

@delayedcreator4783

26 күн бұрын

no

@gezimlimoni2319

26 күн бұрын

​@@delayedcreator4783and what is the right amount?

@ALxdCr4ftPlays

23 күн бұрын

Yup. I have an i7-14700k, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5, Samsung Pro 990 2TB SSD. As a KZreadr, when I edit even a 30 minute video, Task Manager reports my RAM use is 13GB while PowerDirector 365 is processing that video (expected final video size 13GB, 4K 30fps). And CPU running at 20% and GPU at 40%. 32GB is more safer and future proof than 16, though it depends what programs you use.

@ALxdCr4ftPlays

23 күн бұрын

Not to mention it can have the video processing done in under 12 minutes. My old PC (i7-6700k, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1070, I got in 2016) would take 2 hours to process that kind of video editing.

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

21 күн бұрын

@@delayedcreator4783 It actually is. Anything less is meant for cellphones and tablets.

Right when I was looking for video about ram you uploaded. Lol cheers brotha 🙏🏽🔥

Returnal would have been a good game to test because the devs recommend 32GB

@PcCentric

27 күн бұрын

So does Cyberpunk!

As much as I want - Me, 2024.

i went for 64gb DDR5 6000 CL30 for my current system, DCS world regularly uses 45+ and I've seen Star Citizen nearly hit 32 in places

@paulct91

27 күн бұрын

DCS, a great game, wish I new how to fly better with just a keyboard and mouse, I miss the simplicity of MFS's controls.

@Swatmat

27 күн бұрын

@@paulct91 its just not meant to be played with those controls, there is a reason fighters jets use a stick and throttle and pedals,

@keithallison8040

27 күн бұрын

Did the same 64gb cl30 6000 works great well worth the higher cost

I'm building a new PC and decided to get 48 gb ddr5 ram (24x2). I feel like that's the most balanced in terms of capacity and performance. The 24g sticks are single rank and can have better oc potential than dual rank 64/32x2 kits. So extra capacity with the benefits of a smaller stick. Plus, its easier to have 64gb+ total ram considering the amount of VRAM on GPUs these days (48 system plus 16+ VRAM). I also won't have to worry about performance issues due to having other applications open and be fairly future proofed. Can't wait to get my parts and build/tune it. Hey, PC Centric. For the next RAM video you mentioned, any chance you can do some comparisons between stock, XMP/Expo only, and XMP/Expo + tuned (tighter timings) gaming performance? Maybe that's a lot to ask, but it would be interesting to see the 1% low differences. P.S. - Looks like you guys left the zoo benchmark in your summary chart. It would have been nice to leave that one out as it was an outlier to get a more accurate picture. Cheers man.

@andydbedford

26 күн бұрын

If you want that kind of content just go and watch Buildzoid over at actually hardware overclocking. Basically if you’re building an AMD system, then tinkering with your ram is just a major major headache just enable Expo and leave it at that. Intel are a bit different but come with its own issues too.

I use 32gb of ram. In games like escape from tarkov, it uses up to 26gb. This is at 1440p

@EviljelloX

27 күн бұрын

tarkov is barely playable spaghetti code with more memory leak than a a guy with alzheimers. 16gb is fine for almost anything else barring creative workloads

@selim7945

27 күн бұрын

I wouldn't worry about that cuz the new update which they sell 250$ pack that is completely broken. Terrible management by the devs so RIP Tarkov 👋

@45eno

27 күн бұрын

If you had 64gb installed I bet you would see over 30gb used. The more installed the more is used. With 64gb installed I was seeing an easy 10+ gb used on boot up.

Great infomation for me. thanks

I went with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the phanteks nv7. I also went with the phanteks screen to fill in some space and the phanteks gpu vertical bracket angled back. The build is sick and I clean it monthly. I may switch the ram from 4 sticks to 2 sticks at a later time when new motherboards, new ram and the 5090 comes out. I will see when everything comes out and after reviews from the youtube tech community.

Thank you! This was useful, and I am on the verge of a purchase.

what's always running in the background is the answer the more you have multi tasking the more you'll need for example Tech once said he ran video editing software whilst he gamed, so of course he says get 64Gb. I have 32Gb and at worst have Edge running a radio station broadcast, never fill up the RAM unless I add more and more tasks. VRAM might well be the must get 16 or more VRAM for ultra settings in the near future?

I’ve just finished a 7800X3D + RTX 4090 build and put 32gb Corsair vengeance 6000 mt/s CL30 and it just buttery smooth running cyberpunk, Hogwarts legacy an Alan Wake2 maxed out at 1440p ultrawide. I would say if you are building a new system just get the 32gb kit run it in dual channel, enable xmp/expo and it you will be just fine. Great video Marcus 👍

i have 32gb of corsair dominator titanium ddr5 7200mhz ram and I'm loving it, I'm playing at 1440p on a Samsung odyssey g7 32 inch monitor

I started with 16 GB on a pre-built and then upgraded it to 64GB If you can, then do this. Future proves it as much as possible for 5 years

Hi PC Centric I have a question How about all the tutorials on the net And especially on KZread To improve computer performance? All kinds of guides to change settings on a Windows computer and such called pc optinization guide etc. and use all kinds of software to improve the computer And there are many of them I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the matter Do they really help improve computer performance

Hey I'm looking into what pc I want for my bday in around 3 months but I'm really struggling, some pcs may be a scam or not as good as i think. Just by looking at your channel I know you are an expert, what fairly priced good PC should I get?

I had just bought a 7800x3d build with 4080 super for 1080p so in fact people would want to see this difference on a bigger scale.

I found out of all the games I tested on my build , CoD/warzone has the least impact stressing the system

Does ram matter with resolution for example 1440p vs 4k??

Using 32Gb @5600Mts (2x16) with a i7 13700K. Picked up another identical kit to make it 64Gb but have not got around to installing it yet. Slightly drunken purchase on eBay when no one else was bidding. Not sure I really need it.

In Jan 2020, I built with 64GB never really considered less at the time. Just means I can run more software at the same time and I don't just use my PC for gaming.

You could have just run all of the ram kits at stock speeds no XMP. That way capacity is the only difference. But what do I know.

I have 64gb and it's barely enough if I have to open a guide on Chrome. But seriously, 32 would have been fine but who knows what I'll do with it in the future! Probably sell the other 32gb cause I don't do video editing.

32gb is my go to, though right now I have 48gb (2x16+2x8) and I’ll admit there is zero difference I have noticed going up unless minecraft is your game of choice

I am in the market for DDR5 64GB kits but struggling to get confirmation of which ones have DIMM sensors. I want Aida64/Hwmon to show me DIMM temps but not all mem manufacturers have thermal sensors on their modules. I would love all YT memory reviews to include system monitoring stats, showing all SPD timings, temps (if supported) etc.

@ice.3000

26 күн бұрын

Get Gskill DDR5 64Gb cl30

@michaelosmolski

26 күн бұрын

@@ice.3000 was looking at gskill but so many options. I prefer a non rgb 64 kit that has sensors, can you suggest one?

@ice.3000

26 күн бұрын

@@michaelosmolski G.skill Trident Z5 non rgb

2x24gb @ 8200mt is the sweet spot on my 2 dimm apex encore mobo. Some games and apps definitely benchmark linearly with faster memory speeds. Dont think there is a a difference in quantity other than my system is stable with 2x24 hynix m die vs 2x16 hynix a die.

I play a lot of 7 Days to Die. When you run stuff in the background and especially when you have Chrome open, the system can definitely hit 16 or even 17 GB in use. I'd gone all in with 64 GB, so it wasn't an issue, but it was a bit of a surprise as I had thought that 16 GB was fine for gaming. 32 GB is definitely the sweet spot these days.

I went with 96 gigs. My motherboard max is 192, so I just went with half that. So far, very smooth!😊

@paulct91

27 күн бұрын

No, go higher, after ram prices settle, eventually, it can be fun using Primocache to help cache all that ram as really fast external storage buffer, its quite taxing but looks cool at least.

@CStove

27 күн бұрын

@@paulct91 I'll bump it to 192 sometime in the future, for sure.

Hello, i need help, should i buy pc that has i9 13900k 4070 32 gb of ram 1tb ssd or ryzen 9 7900 4070 32 gb of ram and 2tb, im goint to game but also do video editing, what should i pick ( both of them are the same price). Plz help

Was ram usage even showing in frame view on afterburner?

I'm on 10gb(8+2).. and i play forbidden west & cyberpunk pretty fine😂 so maybe anything above 8gb is golden. I don't do anything heavy besides gaming.

Hi bro Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16APH8 (82Y9000QUS) $899 and Lenovo LOQ 15IRX9 (83DV00FXUS) $890 Which one is better to buy in 2024. Or is here any other Gameing laptops in this price point. Please reply. Thank you 😊

Talking about realistic approach. You had to test with other apps opened, realistic use case of pc.

To see the RAM utilization would have made sense. 😢

@Justtwodangmany

26 күн бұрын

😂 Itd be a 60 second video if he opened performance manager in every game with 64gb installed. "Is it over 32?" No: 32 is enough Yes: 40 or 64 is needed. So there ya have it, cheers! /video

Bro use MSI Afterburner RTSS, how many times I've to remind you! RAM usage was not even showing in the FrameView.

@AlexHusTech

27 күн бұрын

I know right, was the first thing I was looking for to see the actual usage!

Whenever I am building a gaming pc the minimum RAM has always been and will continue to be 32GB. For me 16gb just is not enough even if people say that it is.

Bench Marcus is the mannnnn 🖥

I'm going 64gb of ram on my next build. More than enough seeing there's no advantage to having huge ram we see in some ytube shorts build aka 128gb ram builds. Yes I'm putting 64gb ram but it's a steal add it'll probably be my last pc build outside of small upgrades. All my builds I've done for my family have 32g seeing that's a sweet spot add they don't play triple A games.

32 in total. 16 for the game, the other 16 for other apps in the bg while you game. Discord. We browser. All the launchers etc. The movie running on the 2nd screen in HDR 4K

Hogwarts Legasy on AM4. 1440p and everything on max including R.T. I was hitting 22GB on the RAM alone.

I had a testbed system that couldn't run Star Citizen with 16gb. It was poky and the devs provided a warning about the memory limit. You also want to have headroom, 16gb is not good enough for 2024 and beyond. My next monster workstation will have 128gb.

can you please test on microsoft flight simulator 2020

Didn't you just need to run them all at JDEC base, then they would all be at the same speed ?

And your HDD is like ignoring the pen and setting up a typewriter

32 is great for me. Mushkin RED baby!

So where is this video I was promised on the Thermaltake SWAFAN EX fans because it’s been a month and I’m waiting patiently Marcus

What make of keyboard is that?

Now do the same thing with discord, 2 monitors ,msi afterburner etc openened

Now, have a stream on your second monitor (or anime, movie, etc), multiple tabs open in your web browser (ouch if you are using Chrome as its ram use heavy), games downloading in the background from steam etc, while playing your game at 4K 60fps. Not to mention all the background windows OS tasks (prefetch, etc). Then come back and tell me you only need 16GB of RAM memory. 16 GB is fine if the only thing you plan on doing is game. But if you are mulittasking heavily, you will need more than 16GB to have a smooth gaming experience AND be able to multitask effectively on everything else PC. I just stick to 16GBx2 🤷‍♂️ always have enough headroom, just my 2cents.

I like the MW3/Warzone inclusion most youtubes don't really test it

Hogwarts likes 20+ gigs of ram. Plus, it seems to play better at 32 GIGS at 6000 MTs CL 30 over 64 GIGS at 5200 MTS CL 38 judging by the 2 Rigs I now own and previously owned. My old Mobo died and took out the ram, so I upgraded.

@MonkeyMan125431

27 күн бұрын

Do you still experience stutters when playing? I’m considering upgrading from DDR4 to DDR5 and wondering if that would fix or improve the stuttering

@Adam-fz6sj

27 күн бұрын

@@MonkeyMan125431 Small random stutters when something starts in the background or when windows does its check for updates, nothing big so I would go for 32 GIGs CL30 at 6000 MTs over CL38 but only if you can find the ram for a good price and it works with your motherboard.

Wondering I have 64gb 6000mhz but two have different vaultage. 32gb different vault.

Def a good question. Some like to just game on their pc whilst others like to game, play music, stream and watch videos on one pc all at the same time (well not videos and music but you’ll be surprised)😅

I was playing my ram when to 98% on 16 gb of ram do i need 32 gb ?

I've got 64gb of DDR5 with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D all I'm gonna say you go in Ryzen Master to put the CPU in game mode and everything just crashes so I'm gonna say and AMD side it doesn't really matter as it's unstable loool

thanks marcus your video always helpful. your legend mate

Can a 9800 amd graphic card run cod mw 3 remastered?????😅😅😅😅

32GB DDR5. Especially for games which are as demanding as Microsoft Flight Simulator and Cyber Punk if you want to play those in 4k ultra with ray tracing.

and in all of your "testing" we still don't know how much ram was each game using... and how can it be that you get more fps with 64GB than with 32GB if you set it identically and if game is lets say using 12GB of ram?

I think 32 should be minimum what y'all think about?

@ChillyNuts4u

27 күн бұрын

nah 16gb minimum but 32gb is sweet spot, depends though, if you do professional/creative work then 32gb is minimum and 64gb+ recommended

@no-zb7lb

26 күн бұрын

@@ChillyNuts4u hmm you are right tooo BTW thanks but what about streaming and gaming which one should be good

@ChillyNuts4u

26 күн бұрын

@@no-zb7lb streaming and gaming you will be fine with 32gb, I used to stream with only 16gn and that was completely fine :)

Sounds about right

Not having ram usage on the overlay is ludicrous

Just put (8*2)16gb 5200mhz. Its good for now. Later add another 8x2 ram.

ok now tell me how to download more RAM, i need to upgrade mu PC

@drennin9352

27 күн бұрын

Well, first you must take out your CPU and dip it in liquid nitrogen. This will actually enhance the performance of the CPU so that you can upgrade your RAM without any bottlenecking.

I bought mine second hand and my processor is beefy compared to my GPU gonna upgrade to a RTX 4060.

There is zero point in not having at least 32 GB today. And the results were pretty much dead on to what I expected. The only reason you would actually go higher than 32 though is future proofing.

Can someone please help me. So I’m getting a RTX 4070 GPU and I’m getting an Intel i7 13700K ( My motherboard is only compatible with intel CPUs apparently) Anyway I was wondering is this enough to play most games at 1080p/1440p at high settings with at least 60fps? I should also say that I have 32gb of RAM

@mattjvideos3663

27 күн бұрын

Ye some games will run 4k on medium settings with that combo

I upgraded to 64GB of RAM from 32GB with my 5700X and here is what benches won't tell you...with 64GB of RAM thanks to Windows caching EVERYTHING I use often is preloaded into RAM so launches instantly. Browser? BAM. Music Player? BAM. Video editor? BAM. Hell when I play War Thunder with my buds I usually have to tell them what map we are getting as thanks to Windows caching I'm already picking my load out before they even get the load screen, it's just BAM and I'm in. So when my 5700X gets too long in the tooth to game I'll be going 64Gb minimum if not 128 simply because everything going BAM feels just too damn good.

Recommended for overall stability: 32GB's Minimum: 16GB Overkill: 64GB

32GB is definitely the sweet spot but i went with 64GB

@MrAnimescrazy

27 күн бұрын

Yup me too just in case and I like to have more then what I need.

@RohanSanjith

27 күн бұрын

48gb is ss

I have 64 gigs overclocked at 6600mgz

Anyone still rockin 4gb ddr3 in 2024

@EviljelloX

27 күн бұрын

no

@Ksukiyomi

27 күн бұрын

no

@MachoGoat

27 күн бұрын

No

@raz9800

27 күн бұрын

I had 8gb ddr3, but just upgraded to 32gb ddr5

@Ksukiyomi

27 күн бұрын

@@raz9800 massive jump 🔥

At this point 32Gb is absolutely minimum. I watching this video with only 1 tab open and nothing else and of course some apps working in a background and PC use nearly 10gb of ram add a game to it and it seriously can hurt your game performance. I do have 64Gb in my PC because is necessarily. As Big Fan of Skyrim I do have have quite big mod list (3500+) and there are locations (for example outside of Whiterun) where PC while playing taking over 50Gb of ram....

@lsik231l

27 күн бұрын

Nice. I went with 48 gbs to mod and play Skyrim again. Figured I'd need more if there's enough mods installed lol.

@stawsky

27 күн бұрын

@@lsik231l I think 48gb for heavy modded Skyrim is absolutely minimum. I just checked and all my mods take 565gb disc spaces…. Originally I wanted to go with 48gb because You can OC better then 64gb but is fine.I was able my from 6400Mhz 32-39-39-102 to 6800Mhz 30-30-40-40 and they are perfectly stable with Intel and Rtx.

Is it worth getting ryzen 7 8700g over ryzen 5 8600g please

@onedayatatime723

24 күн бұрын

Are you gonna stay on integrated graphics for more than 2 years?

with 8gb of my ram cuz if i use my other stick it blue screens idk what to do if i should buy some more or nah

@-Ryan-1776

27 күн бұрын

Definitely buy more

@Adam-fz6sj

27 күн бұрын

@@-Ryan-1776 Check compatibility with your mobo and make sure the ram you have works with your system properly.

@nrgaquafreshyt2434

27 күн бұрын

thanks guys

@-Ryan-1776

27 күн бұрын

@@Adam-fz6sj my system works just fine. Used same gskill trident z in both msi and gigabyte boards. Perfectly compatible with both those boards.

8Gb or 16Gb for League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Runescape, Roblox, Minecraft, CS:GO ... that's nearly the entire PC gaming market right there. Keep it real bro.

I dont build my pc for today, i bet if we looked back so many years 8gb was optimal. Give it next year or year after it will be 32gb.

64GB is so cheap it should be the minimum.

I got say, isn’t these tests unfair? Like, one of the things that RAM do (or the only thing it does) is being able to run more stuff on the computer. With other words, if you want to play 8 games at the same time (for some reason) buy more, if you only will use like a game and discord go for less.

64gb if you want to build a proper system that you don't have to upgrade during its typical 5-6 year lifespan.

got a 4090 because I want to play at 1440p 144fps longer

@MrAnimescrazy

27 күн бұрын

What are the rest of your specs?

Moore ramm you wont og to worried about memory chache on hard drive or virtual memory

Gaming Laptops are cool to watch a review on and dream but to actually own one over a pc is hilarious 😂

I have 32gb G-Skill TridentZ neo 3600..

@mauricejohnson660

27 күн бұрын

How is it performing

@Vialli100.

27 күн бұрын

@@mauricejohnson660 Very well, in benching it performs above expectations (Userbenchmark).. I used the same memory (except DDR5) for my nephews build and it is also great memory..

I run 32gb and it’s definitely the sweet spot

Noti gang!!

What is the tool in the top left of screen that is used to see cpu/gpu temp, frame rate etc. new to pc. Just finished my first build and getting my head around everything. Thanks. 👍

@drennin9352

27 күн бұрын

I am also wondering this. Just bought my first prebuilt and it is arriving tomorrow. So I want to see how people are using that tool to see their benchmarks lol.

@PcCentric

27 күн бұрын

Nvidia Frameview

@drennin9352

27 күн бұрын

@@PcCentric Thank you so much!

@Deadmansc1ick

27 күн бұрын

@@PcCentric Thank you my good man. Appreciated.

Is DDR 5 THAT much of an upgrade from DDR 4?

@VelvetThunderB99

27 күн бұрын

No wait for DDR6 in 2026

@PcCentric

27 күн бұрын

I did a video all about this :)

you'd make a decent Peter Parker or Harry Potter.

oddly enough Diablo 4 uses tons of memory, GPU and system.

Need ? 8gb. Will enjoy having ? 32 and beyond.

32 the most, 16 should be fine for most people

As much as i can download

32 is the new 16

By 2026 32gb is gonna be the bare minimum required...

32 is not enough playing titles like Star Citizen and DCS world.