How Much Land Do I REALLY Need For An Off Grid Homestead?

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When most people think about starting their off grid homestead, they might envision a 50 acre spread with expansive views and a natural landscape that remains endlessly beautiful.
What most people donʻt understand is that with land stewardship comes responsibility. There is a lot of maintenance required to keep a landscape in a healthy equilibrium.
Learn from others. Iʻve made mistakes in my past. I go over some of them in the video and also what I believe to be the perfect sized homestead for most people just starting out.
Mahalo for watching.
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  • @oscop2008
    @oscop2008Ай бұрын

    Perfectly explained, an eye-opening reality.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    Ай бұрын

    Starting simple is best

  • @thecatguy4301
    @thecatguy43012 жыл бұрын

    When you said; "rely less on the government and more on ourselves", you brought tears of joy to my eyes.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    What does the govt do for us, really? Except divide and conquer

  • @thecatguy4301

    @thecatguy4301

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii Well, for the most part, they take. Little by little, they take out property and our freedom. And then expect us to love them for the crumbs they "give" us. On a positive note. I'm finally getting ready to head over there and start operations on my property. Been waiting 3 years now. Want to thank you again for all the valuable info you've generously given. It's helped. Contacted the solar guy you recommended in your video. I let him know you sent me. Take care and maybe we'll cross paths soon. Until them, enjoy Puna for me while I'm stuck in the 🏜 of San Diego.

  • @hardlineent
    @hardlineent2 жыл бұрын

    I needed to hear this right about now. I have 3 acres in Orchidland and I’m now debt free but I have been struggling with the new houses being built next to me so I’ve been looking for more land to start over to have more separation. This video has made me rethink that plan. Thanks

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    3 acres in orchidland, you can hide yourself pretty well and still have neighbors to connect with

  • @hawaiibrandonm9890
    @hawaiibrandonm98902 жыл бұрын

    Man, I love everything about this and your whole channel. We moved to HPP a few months ago and trying to follow your advice.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good luck out there. Let me know if there is anything youʻd like me to cover.

  • @missjudyvw

    @missjudyvw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Homesteader. I just moved to. HPP, have a small fixer upper house. It was wired but never hooked up to Helco. No line was ever put in from the road. Now I'm trying to decide whether to put in the line from Helco or go off grid solar? There's a fee for like over $5,000 before any line is even run!!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@missjudyvw Thatʻs why I am on Solar. You have to cost it out. Hawaiiʻs electricity costs are sky high and constantly getting higher. A good solar system with backup generator can be had for $13k. Say it lasts 10 years, with one battery change in between at that price. Thatʻs roughly $110/month. Average Power Company bill... $140 plus $5000 hook up, plus all the blackouts and dirty power sources. Solar just seems better.

  • @CAgrandaddypurps69
    @CAgrandaddypurps692 жыл бұрын

    I feel like everyone needs a mother nature eye opening when You first move here. So dont knock it until you try it lol. Im from here and kauai Farmer for life.

  • @anndrake492
    @anndrake492 Жыл бұрын

    People who are resilient? YES! Thanks.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes we are

  • @kenchapman3406
    @kenchapman34062 жыл бұрын

    As usual, wonderful and thoughtful video. I just picked up,an acre off Oneloa. Stoked to be able to finally get going. Hopefully I will get a chance to pick your brain on a couple things.. bamboo , permit vs nonpermit , and something most don't think of until last minute, water catchment ,placement . Anyways, great video as usual !

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Feel free to reach out.

  • @yoBigWave
    @yoBigWave2 жыл бұрын

    Great advice 🤙 I am working towards my dreams of homesteading off grid one day. Got a new job to hopefully put mys savings in a faster track. Mahalo

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good luck. Starting small gets you there. Then you can always trade up!

  • @tmatheson
    @tmatheson11 ай бұрын

    Bro you’re either the happiest person in the world or you just took a giant rip and rolled tape. Appreciate you brother. 😂

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    11 ай бұрын

    Just happy!!

  • @tmatheson

    @tmatheson

    11 ай бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii 😂 in California you only see people that happy if they’re at a weed shop. I like what you’re doing I just don’t know if it’s still practical. Seems like there isn’t much land left down there. At least not modest parcels. Like you said let the land barons manage that. I just want an acre lol.

  • @texrobles
    @texrobles9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    9 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you so much!

  • @thecalmwayhome8483
    @thecalmwayhome8483 Жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful and generous video/ advice. Your story is very inspiring. And Hawaii is too expensive to bite off more than you can chew!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    Жыл бұрын

    So true! Thanks for sharing your kind comment. I just hate seeing people get in over their heads

  • @cajanir
    @cajanir2 жыл бұрын

    That was a great discussion. I'm planning on buying land early next year and have been struggling to determine how much I need. Another thing to consider is that the more remote you are on a large plot of land the more consideration you need to give to security. It's not like you can just call the police, or yell loudly to wake up the neighbours if you hear strange noises on your remote 30 Acre homestead.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes and no. Harder to get police to come anywhere in Hawaii, at least on 30 acres, rippahs need to be more cautious

  • @cajanir

    @cajanir

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii I was really thinking outside of Hawaii. I'm in the Caribbean. So if I'm close to the city then police or even neighborhood watch is an option.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheQueenOfDreams a lot of people love their lava tubes

  • @CAgrandaddypurps69

    @CAgrandaddypurps69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah dont rely on cops here on the big island. What do they do. Sit on the side of the road vaping and talk story. Your on your own. 6 dogs per acre is my advice. No joke. Youll get fucked up here. Thieves are everywhere but only dumb ones get bit

  • @jenniferobert8870
    @jenniferobert88702 жыл бұрын

    I was on the Big Island staying in Octogon Bali house on the Hamakua Coast. We needed to come back to Cali to tie up some things. We might be ordering a container home to put on his land! Very soon

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lucky! Hamakua is so nice

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Someone is selling one right now in pahoa. Its on the side of the hwy. Other than that its a custom job out here, may e can ship them over?

  • @thomasreto2997
    @thomasreto29972 жыл бұрын

    Great advice! Always start small and observe the results as you learn....and slowly work into a new off grid/more self sustaining lifestyle...🍄😃🌈🤙

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said!

  • @lindacisco8721
    @lindacisco87212 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on 10K subscriptions! Your generosity is wonderful. Please consider putting us on your short list for a free consult. We have 6 acres in Kurtistown and its starting to get a bit much. We have tried to be judicious but need help. Your videos are so helpful! BTW - don’t you drive a white mazda?

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe we can chat. Email me at swjennings@gmail.com

  • @Debra309
    @Debra3092 жыл бұрын

    You flee the city. Dream of a large acreage homestead. “Buy a cow. Get a goat.” Then realize driving the first t-post in is nearly impossible or worse, alfalfa isn’t commercially grown here in Hawaii. 😂 Hawaii is a completely different ballgame, even for the most successful homesteader from the mainland. For us, it’s been one huge experiment coupled with a pretty large learning curve but definitely worth it. Sean, you said it. Take the necessary time to observe and become familiar with your land. That’s the best advice any true permaculture/homesteader enthusiast should follow before committing to a design. We didn’t go the recommended full year. When the winter rains came and seasonal ponds appeared, we lost a couple beloved trees. Lesson learned. We cannot thank you enough for your videos. So appreciate the time and effort put forth. Mahalo.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gosh, even more reasons to think twice. Over the long haul it definitely pays to be patient. My property wouldnt be able to tell if I started 10 years ago or 9 years ago at this point.

  • @jcardenas48292
    @jcardenas482922 жыл бұрын

    Great advice

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mahalo

  • @tomallen3906
    @tomallen39062 жыл бұрын

    You Rock bro!!!! 😎🤙

  • @OffGridGetAway
    @OffGridGetAway2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful landscape/natural terrain...the complete opposite of ours. glad to have found your channel.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where are you?

  • @OffGridGetAway

    @OffGridGetAway

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii Arizona High Desert.

  • @jayqueuestuff
    @jayqueuestuff2 жыл бұрын

    1-5 acres (For those who learn better by hearing the recommendation first, and then the details.. see 6:03)

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for looking out

  • @jayqueuestuff

    @jayqueuestuff

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii Thank you for such valuable info 🙏🏽

  • @joxxxyalpharius2008
    @joxxxyalpharius20082 жыл бұрын

    thank you brother

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @britothegreat5079
    @britothegreat50792 жыл бұрын

    Love the hat!!

  • @nateschneider2361
    @nateschneider23612 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video brotha! Thanks for sharing your insight. My wife and I just closed on a square 1 acre lot in leilani estates, and are about to start land clearing/excavating, fencing and building our ohana, be4 building our main house. Would love to get some help in developing a plan before I book with an excavator. Also if you know of a good excavator who works in puna would love to hear about it, mahalo!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alani bulldozing is one of the best. You can find him online. First clear, try save some natural area, get your fence line flat. Drill fence posts at same time you dig for septic. Spread red cinder for driveway and house area, black for planting areas. Plant fruit trees that are furthest from building areas. Get power.. Start building. Install water tank.. Establish garden when done building. Good luck

  • @craigmetcalfe1749
    @craigmetcalfe174910 ай бұрын

    Hey Mate! I have been watching the news recently from Down Under and wondering how you are faring with the recent fires!! Please let us know if you are OK. I know from previous videos that Hawaiians are a fairly resourceful and tight team, so I hope that this comment reaches you to let you know you and Hawaii are in our thoughts since we heard the news. Cheers!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    10 ай бұрын

    We're ok on the big island, but Maui is devastated. The lahui is gathered but the govt gets in the way. It will be interesting to see how it all goes. If anything like the lava, only big money will make out.

  • @1wldnczyguy
    @1wldnczyguy2 жыл бұрын

    I really like the videos you put out, but I’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. When a homesteader buys large piece of property, and then just uses a small portion of it, (especially in Hawaii), that leaves the rest of the property to retain its properties, and evolve in its natural evolution. And, that’s something that all native Hawaiian Islanders would appreciate, especially from the persons they consider to be “invaders!” I really think you need to rethink this. Giving advice to keep your Homestead small and “manageable” is one thing, and a good thing. Especially, when you point out the ability of other homesteaders to use all the property that the small plot purchasers didn’t buy. Having 10 homesteaders, each on 5 acre plots, is WAY MORE INVASIVE, (and, potentially DESTRUCTIVE), to “NATURAL, UNSPOILED” Hawaii, than one “5 acre developed homestead” on a 50 acre, (the vast majority of it “UNTOUCHED AND UNSPOILED”), piece of Hawaiian land!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Land is already zoned for things. 1/2 acre zoning here. 2 acre zoning there. 20 acre zoning there. I am trying to encourage people to look at smaller parcels to engage their homestead dreams. What I have noticed on large acreage is folks who try to go off grid, get in over their heads, then make up for the loss by farming illegal rentals rather than appropriately managing their land. Most times they'll clear more space into the wilds to make these illegal ohanas. Or as landowners they will fail to manage the land properly because they don't know what they're doing. Even the wildlands need tending sometimes. These land owners will let invasive miconia become a huge problem rather than mitigate it. They'll ignore the wild boar population and in turn encourage desecration of natural.lands and enhance disease in the local bird population. I'm not saying don't go off grid on 20 acres, but maybe save those larger landholdings for people who know what they're doing (native hawaiians) and stick to your smaller spread where you can make mistakes without huge ripple effects. But I understand not everyone will think the same. I appreciate the discussion here. Thanks for sharing. I'm happy to have my mind changed, its just I've been on numerous consults and the story always seems to stay the same.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    And also youtube loves content that sparks discussion. Sometimes you have to be contrary in this youtube game to gain exposure 😉

  • @PorkChopSammie
    @PorkChopSammie2 жыл бұрын

    You’re absolutely right on this. I’m sitting on 17 hamakua acres and about 4-5 acres is sounding really good right about now! It will slowly get there. But if you do this have a plan!! Like a no shit realistic plan.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was the point of the video. Plan and don’t bite off more than you can chew

  • @PorkChopSammie

    @PorkChopSammie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii that’s legit advice.

  • @danielnaberhaus5337

    @danielnaberhaus5337

    Жыл бұрын

    I have 3 acres in Puna I'll trade you ;)

  • @nathanminick1696
    @nathanminick1696 Жыл бұрын

    I was just wondering if you ever got that jerky I sent you? Thanks again for posting this awesome material! -Nate.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I did! Thanks for reaching out again. I didn’t know where to find you and say thanks. It was some of the best jerky I ever had.

  • @robertt6327
    @robertt63272 жыл бұрын

    Thank you my friend I love watching your blogs, you are always so positive and upbeat. After listening to you now I know that I have made the right decision wanting to move to the Big Island. I think I would like to have at least two acres because I do not want to be jammed right up next to my neighbor, I like my privacy

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Orchidland has more acres. You really have to come visit though. The move over is pricey. Most people move back in 2 years. Its not for everyone but for those who make it, its home

  • @robertt6327

    @robertt6327

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii I'm selling almost everything I own I do not plan on coming back. You have inspired me, I would love to find a property that someone put a lot of work into it and is moving back to the mainland, a motivated seller. Why do most people give up? Today I really enjoyed your video on making rainwater drinkable.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertt6327 People give up because hawaii is not the mainland. The big island is also not everyoneʻs idea of what hawaii is. It is rugged and raw, the locals take a while to warm up to you. Life is slower paced. It rains a lot. Schools suck. People miss their family or good restaurants. A variety of reasons people leave. I see it all the time, people leaving within a year or 2. Weʻre looking for property now but just waiting for all the covid refugees to skip back to the mainland any day now. Iʻd say a good 50% will end up going back home with hat in hand.

  • @robertt6327

    @robertt6327

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir, this sounds perfect. I'm 77 years old with relatively good health by the grace of God. I have been divorced for almost 3 years and I have to tell you that in the states when you are old you become invisible unless someone needs your help, usually financially then and only then does your phone ring. I rarely see my children. I love the outdoors and gardening. I do not need much land, maybe just two acres I do not want to be so close to my neighbors that I can hear them talking at their front door or smell the smoke from their cigarettes. I'm engaged to a 22 year old Filipina that I met 2 years ago. She is a born again Christian like myself and we have the same interest. I look forward to visiting the big island and I hope to meet you. Thank you again.

  • @CoconutLava
    @CoconutLava2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos!! I just stumbled upon them. So very informative! I have been dreaming of a couple of acres in Big Island. Is there a best altitude for farming?

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really depends on what you want to grow

  • @CoconutLava

    @CoconutLava

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii Pretty much like you, to feed my family and share with the community

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CoconutLava well then. Anything below 800" and you can grow most of the tropicals well.

  • @eljardinperdido
    @eljardinperdido2 жыл бұрын

    I'm on a 10th of an acre in a city with goats, chickens, and 50 fruit trees or so and some garden beds.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats what I'm talking about

  • @gardentours
    @gardentours2 жыл бұрын

    When we bought our garden I thought that it might be too small for all my plans but when I startet weeding I thought it's much tooo big 😂🤣 We only have 296 qm (3186 square foot ) but we make the best out of it.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know exactly what I'm talking about

  • @Dog_gone_it
    @Dog_gone_it2 жыл бұрын

    Mahalo n aloha

  • @keithbrown733
    @keithbrown7332 жыл бұрын

    Just closed on 8100sqf going to camp out on property until my house is built do you have any advice for camping needs?

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get one of those tarp canopy setups in addition to a tent and use pallets to keep it off the ground. Thatʻll keep you dry and get you started. Then find a way to harvest and store some water, you donʻt want to have to be constantly going to the spigots to fill up. Good luck

  • @GreenHorn1Acre
    @GreenHorn1Acre2 жыл бұрын

    That’s awesome… I have a small plot of land in Pahoa & want to develop a mini permaculture place. I’m heading there today (Monday 9/20). It be cool to meet 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Iʻd be into meeting up but I am slammed today. How long are you in town and where in Pahoa?

  • @GreenHorn1Acre

    @GreenHorn1Acre

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii I was over just for today this trip…. I will hit you up sooner next time … Mahalo 🤙🏼

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GreenHorn1Acre for sure

  • @I810752

    @I810752

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best resource to find land in Hawaii?? Looking for a small retirement property to be as self-sufficient as we can.

  • @alwayslearning7672
    @alwayslearning76722 жыл бұрын

    Along with fruit, veg & herbs I want to grow various grains. Hi how much extra room do grains need? I eat a lot of grains and make bread etc..

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Forget about grains in Hawaii. It just doesn’t make sense.

  • @jaredbowers8938

    @jaredbowers8938

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii when you say a cow can live on one acre do you mean a cow calf pair for milk? or can 1 acre sustain beef production too?

  • @coyotefeather4896
    @coyotefeather489611 ай бұрын

    Are you able to bike commute from where you live? How possible is it to live carfree where you are? I would love to be able to get myself around without using fossil fuels

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    10 ай бұрын

    That's why I just moved. It took years to find it but we landed on a spot just on the fringe of Hilo in the flats where we can bike to the stores and all the way to the beach which is 4 miles from our house. It's possible, but there aren't many spots like this. Waikiki is really bikeable, but you'd probably only be able to find balcony space to garden there. Hanalei on kaui is nice but you need a couple million for there.

  • @JasonEngman
    @JasonEngman2 жыл бұрын

    I have 3.5 acre and its a lot of work to keep up for one person with a full time job!

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shoots, a 1/2 acre is tons of work

  • @crafty_gem6563
    @crafty_gem65632 жыл бұрын

    So jealous of you. I keep dreaming. Is there land that has potential to be connected to the grid? Have like a hybrid . I grew up in Miami. I need my AC or a pool.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sure. You can be off grid and have those things but plenty grid tie homes are living the off grid lifestyle too.

  • @theuglykwan
    @theuglykwan2 жыл бұрын

    1 acre is probably more than my whole cul de sac. lol

  • @saxenart
    @saxenart Жыл бұрын

    Is 1-2 acres enough for one person?

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    Жыл бұрын

    1 person can manage an acre of intensive annual veggies. More than that and it’s too much. A lot can be done on and acre. Check out the urban homestead, they do more on less

  • @Native2Earth
    @Native2Earth2 жыл бұрын

    Hawaiian acres / fern acres / orchidland / HPP

  • @adamr4115
    @adamr41152 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @zacharylewis417
    @zacharylewis4172 жыл бұрын

    I mean for me I wanted more because I didn't want people building close to me. So in reality the extra unused land is there to keep the distance between me.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    I get that too. Some people need to hear it. I just heard someone say they got 30 acres that they want to clear-cut. They need to hear it.

  • @helllooopeepsk3024
    @helllooopeepsk30242 жыл бұрын

    How many acres are you on?

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    1/2

  • @wesdaaawg
    @wesdaaawg2 жыл бұрын

    What about .3 acres? Is that too small?

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plenty!

  • @wesdaaawg

    @wesdaaawg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii thanks for the response! I’m really considering making the move. The thing is, it seems like the only affordable area to buy property is in pahoa, which is a level 2 lava zone. Is it safe to live in this area? I have learned that most banks won’t help you with financing when trying to build a home in Pahoa because it’s too risky

  • @theresewheeler1498
    @theresewheeler149811 ай бұрын

    I just need 1 acres

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    11 ай бұрын

    I know, we set our sights so high and work forever trying to achieve them instead of just accepting the baby steps along the way.

  • @eddieco
    @eddieco2 жыл бұрын

    "Near the urban center"..... nah. Give me the property that's rural. I'd rather be out in the boondocks. But each to their own.

  • @HomesteadinHawaii

    @HomesteadinHawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    That comment was more for the noobs who move on to big property and f them all up. Id rather live on 100 acres myself but see the value of living close to town for most other people.

  • @eddieco

    @eddieco

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HomesteadinHawaii I get ya. And let's be honest, I heard that over 50% of the people who move to Hawaii leave within a year. Of those that stay, 50% don't last for year 2, and the same holds for year 3. I was told by locals when we got here that if you last 3 years, you're probably good.

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