How much heat does Pettersson deserve?
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Elias Pettersson has one goal to show for through four games against the Oilers and his head coach Rick Tocchet called him out after their Game 4 loss. How much heat does the Canucks' highest paid player deserve? Bruce Boudreau weighs in during Wednesday's Talking Point.
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If you were coach Rick Tocchet, what adjustments would you make to get Elias Pettersson going in this series? Comment your thoughts down below 👇
@adamtajhassam9188
16 күн бұрын
Since Patty married money 1st he deserves not HEAT but hell 4 his stupidity of not practicing w the club CUT the GUYS SALARY out now. or buy him out
@rajho6638
16 күн бұрын
Play him with Lekkerimaki and Hoglander.
@smarty432
16 күн бұрын
You got to live up to it! Change the flex on his stick or get a new pair of skates or something. Pathetic to endure for the past 2 months as a fan!
@smandin1
16 күн бұрын
Sit him.
@shawncordeiro5078
15 күн бұрын
We have a quick agile goalie in silvos, trade demko Once wounded always easliy re-wounded and in the last yr that proved itself Also trade mikeayav hronek pedi & lafertyy Try to sign the rest From now on bring in minimum 200lbs w/heart and 200ft game RIP darren diticheyn i remember you guys darrin diregger bob mckenzie geno redda dave hodge and that fruit cake that end up hoisting off the record on sportsdesk from when i was a teen in the 90s with acdc instrumental of riff raff in the back ground Besides bob cole " RIP " Its to bad that CBC aka canadas best play by play announcer chris cuthbert ended up steadlily suckin off the leafs now we stuck with hardeep fkn sinjer
Not only Pettersson. Hronek has been invisible in the playoffs.
@colnando
16 күн бұрын
Yup and others. Hronek dried up right after the break, just like half the team did.
@user-fr5dn3pz5h
16 күн бұрын
Forgot Hronek even existed because he is just being outshined by the absolute beauty Zadorov.
@douggarden
15 күн бұрын
anyone see Mikheyev ??? super talent to become invisible ..I'll give him that
@Anticipat0r
15 күн бұрын
thank god we didnt sign hornek yet or he be over paid too. if we waited on petey we save a mill or 2 4sure.
@jlee222ballin
15 күн бұрын
@@douggarden since when was he a super talent? It's an honest question. I have recently just started following the nucks again this year
One thing that Bruce did in his time in Van was get Petey back on track.
He deserves all the smoke. Petey is getting paid an absurd amount of money because he’s supposed to be “that guy”, a superstar, the type of forward who can singlehandedly take control of a game or swing momentum at crucial moments. But besides that one PP goal his teammates served up for him, he has been completely invisible in both the Nashville series, and here against Edmonton, not to mention the 2-3 months prior to that in the regular season. You don’t even notice this guy when he’s out on the ice, and when you do, it’s usually because he’s falling, coughing up the puck, or getting absolutely bullied along the boards. Pettersson just has no FIGHT in him, no extra gear to switch to. He’s a very skilled player no doubt, but I just don’t think he’s built for playoff hockey,
Oh that’s the guy on my milk carton…….
@grahammcfadyenhill9555
16 күн бұрын
And he's on a billboard just outside of town...
@TruongTee
10 күн бұрын
😂
he is a west coast Marner lol
@emperoralvis6559
16 күн бұрын
Right now? He’s worse than that.
One problem with Petey is that he's not a Tocchet type player. Neither was Kuzmenko. Tocchet likes guys that are physical, that aren't afraid to get their hands dirty. Petey is a highly skilled player getting pushed around physically and mentally. They need someone on the coaching staff that can get to Petey in a way that Tocchet couldn't get to with Kuzmenko either. He's just too soft and I don't think Tocchet has much patience for him right now so he's just hoping he finds his game but it's not working. I'm hoping he's just injured and will feel heal up soon and step up.
@georgemalczynski
16 күн бұрын
I think he is capable of playing in the Tocchet system. Pettersson played extremely well at the beginning of the season. I just don’t know what’s happening now.
@grahammcfadyenhill9555
16 күн бұрын
Warriors are born, not made. Look at JT Miller...he was born with a Viking war axe in his tiny little hand.
@devinalexander7415
16 күн бұрын
@@georgemalczynski I think he was capable in the regular season, but I think the mountain that he has to climb mentally in the post season is bigger than he thought it would be.
@slooowburnnn7702
15 күн бұрын
Every since we traded kuzy he’s been off
$12,000,000 Worth of heat. He said it himself, he wants to be in a playoff contender team. Well, you've got what you wanted, 12MIL and the playoffs, now do something about it or get traded.
As a die hard Canuck fan. Petterson needs to pick it up,
He's still playing? I thought he was on the LTR lol
How much heat? As much as a 12m so-called superstar who has scored 6 times in the past 40 games, ONCE in the playoffs. For Pettersson ball lickers, no heat. For fans who have eyesight, 12 million dollars worth of heat.
@archimedes2261
16 күн бұрын
Leafs have a similar problem with Nylander yet most of their fans don't that, why Leafs can't win
Absolutely hate to say this but Pettersson's game has not been same since around time he signed long term contract. Am hoping he can turn things around and put this coincidence out of mind.
He's getting push around, off the puck like a 12 year old kid. He stops up before any engagement in corners, and always starts from a standstill. He needs to be moving constantly as this, especially playoff hockey is much higher pace. Look no further than Garland's play. Speed, always moving. Even Miller has moments rushing in on the left side. And of Course McDavid, always in motion, either getting out of the crowd, into a scoring position, or creating open ice for others to score. You see it constantly where McDavid draws a crowd, only to pass to Draisaitl. Peterson doesn't always have to score goals. He seems to forget there's 4 other guys out there with him!
Petterson would be in the press box for the next game.
Bruce nailed it! Exactly
Go Pettersson go, you've got this.
@Nickh4929
16 күн бұрын
No he doesn't
If I was Tocchet I’d sit him. Like Kelly Hrudey said last night Pettersson is a liability with his play.
@Nickh4929
16 күн бұрын
Yea sit a player who you just paid 12 million and made the face of your franchise. What an absolute joke
@colnando
16 күн бұрын
indeed!
@willeb7052
16 күн бұрын
hes not worth benching, even if he plays poorly atm with almost no offensive production he is still a decent player everywhere else on the ice and still better than many other starters
@SingaporeFriedrice
16 күн бұрын
@@willeb7052 Exactly. He still produces more offence and defense than of his teammates. Don't sit him
@archimedes2261
16 күн бұрын
@@Nickh4929it's akin to Oilers sitting Nurse
When you get paid like that, people expect more from you. Problem is that Petey is not hustling at all. Maybe he's injured, but he is not putting forth any effort. Guy gives up on any battle for the puck.
To be fair to Pettersson, you can put Mikheyev on a line with McDavid and Draisatl setting him up and he would still shoot straight at the Goalie's crest
Still looks MORE ENGAGED THAN ‘Mitchy’, oh yeah, Vancouver is STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS !!!
Petterson is basically a Sedin without the other twin as a linemate
I was at the game last night and was watching him in warmups. He could barely shoot. It's either his shoulder or his wrist that's in bad shape.
@thewanderer8643
16 күн бұрын
Should sit out and fix it then. Hate when pros do this then use it as an excuse
The Canucks were dumb as fuck to fire Boudreau the way they did. I wish they could bring him in a some kind of Special Advisor to help Pettersson get his shit together
@norrislaitinen5011
16 күн бұрын
Bruce should be an assistant coach but Tochett is a better over all coach. Under Bruce we still missed the playoffs by a LONG SHOT.
Great ending
He makes Mitch Marner look like a Playoff Monster.
A lot. He has pulled disappearing acts like this before. His rookie year he went off a cliff after the allstar break. 3rd year he came out slow and then was injured. Next he came out slow after signing a contract and pulled it together after the allstar break. This year, again was good and fell off a cliff after the break. It seems he can only get it together for half a season, or play only OK (ppg) for a whole season. He needs a hardcore and proven training routine with other peers in the offseason. And to work on his skating. His core strength is a joke and gets pushed too easy. He barely even bends his knees. He works hard, but not on what he needs to.
petterson doesnt care.. he got paid
I've never been mad or upset with Petey as a player. This is what Vancouver media does to a player. Like all the contract talks and pushing they did during the season. Media dont GAF though as long as they get their headlines.
Pettersson or someone should drop gloves with Nurse. These Canucks have hustle and seem to work even harder when they are down. Only liability has been Cole.
Bruce is right on. Pettersson needs a player that can hold on to the puck and make a play. Kuzmenko was a perfect fit but the coach didn't like him. Kuz was the only player that always was happy. Pettersson seems depressed and that is bad for the Canucks.
Other young stars in the past have had slow starts to their playoffs careers. The Canucks have played a 'dump in' style and have almost completely lost their puck control game in these playoff. Even Hughes has suffered from the way they are now playing; good defence, dump ins, forechecking, and waiting for bounces to win low scoring games. The Canuck look nervous, tentative, reactive, and sloppy and are eeking out wins with ugly but determined hockey.
I agree
Peterson and Marner are a lot alike.
A pylon would be more effective than whatever it is that EP is doing.. Players would skate _around_ the pylon, they just crash into EP and sort of ignore him when he's on the ice. If the Canucks lose this series, his play (or rather, lack thereof) will be a huge focal point in discussions going forward and he'll be lumped in with the likes of PLD, Darnell Nurse, etc. for worst contract in the league.
All of it !!!
I still see the odd comment, beaking about goaltending 🤦🏻♂️. Peterson playing like he wants out
The problem with Petty is that he's too small. At the beginning of the season, he was probably 20 Lbs heavier than now. He's probably got the body type that burns through fuel quickly, and he should up his calorie intake significantly. At the beginning of the season, he was harder on pucks, wasn't flopping after anyone touched him, and was able to make hits. Someone feed this guy some cheeseburgers. I don't know what his calorie intake is now, but it for sure needs to be increased In the playoffs, you have to be able to hold on to pucks, and with his current frame, he's not strong enough. I'd probably start with 6 eggs and steak for breakfast, pasta with 2 chicken breasts 2-3 hours before a game, and AG1 with whey or an equivalent green drink twice a day for maintenance. Bare minimum 8000 calories a day for a guy with his metabolism.
Pettersson is a 40 million player. Hyman got 38 million, and now he's proven himself even more. Does the latter make any sense for a bigger extension?
petey needs to start skating harder and actually move the puck from time to time.
He's playing lost. I thought it was a lingering injury, but it's Tocchet's style of play. Petey doesn't fit, he can't be defensively responsible and productive at the same time. He's also weak. Not sure I've seen more than 15 shifts all season that he hasn't fallen down from the slightest contact. he's gone 3 steps backwards. Maybe he can reset after this season, but right now, putting in a minor leaguer in his place would probably help us more than hurt us.
The draft of Pettersson and his success started what the Canucks are today. When the sedins left 2019. Petey is what lit the flame again in Vancouver. Everyone came to Canucks with excitement because of Petey. He’s the man
@grahammcfadyenhill9555
16 күн бұрын
Was. Was the man.
Petey deserves every dime of the 11.7 million but please help the Nucks get to the next round !
hes been invisible since becoming the 5th highest paid player
He lacks any emotion on ice. Get happy then mad and learn to control it.
BruceThereItIs
Well A.) His sticks are total JUNK! Break every second one-T (literally garbage sticks). You don't see Miller or Boeser's sticks breaking constantly. B.) He deserves 11 mil worth of heat per year and that is a TON of heat! Personally he would of never got that contract out of me until he earned it in the playoffs. PROVE your worth it. 1 Goal in what ... 21 games now? The rest of his points are secondary assists ... that's 4th liner kinda of performance. C.) Petey's biggest issue and why he can't perform recently is EFFORT and BALANCE. He just can't battle well and his skating is weak (no strong strides anymore and no balance). He gets pushed off the puck constantly, rarely wins any board battles. The only thing he's got going for him at the moment is defensive positioning. If he loses that, I'd just replace him... matter a fact, I'd replace him now, waste of roster spot big time. PUT Podkolzyn in the lineup. At least his effort level is really high and he'll check the crap out of the oilers Dmen. Petey needs to get back to rookie Petey and if you haven't seen rookie Petey folks, look it up on youtube. That kid deserved 11 mil.
@thewanderer8643
16 күн бұрын
Shouldn't make BIG $ cuz good rookie year in pro sports, thats the f'n problem
Some people just aren’t made for the NHL playoffs. They don’t have that killer in them or the resiliency for the rough going that comes with it.
@colnando
16 күн бұрын
Yeah Swedes apparently
Well Pettey needs to ignite the power play. They're both not doing well..
He will single handedly cost the canucks and entire series and if he is the franchise player i dont see how they will have any playoffs success as a team.
$11 million worth
At 19, he was bambi on skates. At 25, he's still bambi on skates. He hasn't put the work in and can't survive when the action really heats up. His professionalism deserves to be questioned ... loudly.
@hughesfan4343
16 күн бұрын
I remember meeting a canucks skills coach who talked to us about NHL work ethic. brought up Alex biega and the extra work he always put in. pettersson on the other hand was a slacker who would show up for practice then go home. needs to put on some muscle
@rrhev
16 күн бұрын
But under Bruce Boudreau, he was the hardest worker during practice according to Bruce. So that's a false narrative.
@Eleutherios1
16 күн бұрын
This just isn't it. Yes he was bambi on skate....and he dominated like that. He dominated like that in the elite league as a teenager playing men. He dominated in the NHL as a rookie. He dominated in the bubble playoffs being a bambi. The problem is that he has completely changed the way he plays. He never attacks the net. He never moves his feet. He always glides.. or just stops along the boards and waits for contact rather than trying to seperate. He absolutely is bigger than he was when he came in the league. The problem starts exactly where Toc has said it does numerous times.. he just doesn't ever move his feet and skate.
@MrCoda47
16 күн бұрын
@@Eleutherios1 dominates like that I think you and I are watching two different people play he is so so so lucky that the Canucks were so blind that they signed them for that stupid amount of money. Something the Canucks have done many times before he's not worth the cost.
@hondomckee.8232
16 күн бұрын
@@rrhev The gym. In the gym. He has not committed to it.
Revive the Lotto Line and keep them together rest of series. This will tell a lot about Elias Pettersson.
The man has no confidence right now and just needs one good game to get the ball rolling. Yeah he had one goal but some of the key winning goals he was a part of. We have an "underdog" team thats been been driven and has pulled off some amazing stuff to be where we are right now in the playoffs. Having a player of Petterssons talent not playing up to his potential and still having our team win games is remarkable. Imagine whats going to happen when he finds his stride.
@MrCoda47
16 күн бұрын
Yeah I keep making excuses for him.He'll, thank you for that.
@OfAlberta
16 күн бұрын
He's terrified of playoff hockey. Simple as that.
@MrCoda47
16 күн бұрын
@@OfAlberta what do you wanna bet when they get eliminated Vancouver will suddenly announce how he was playing through an injury
@GingeyGumdrops
16 күн бұрын
@@OfAlberta Of course he is, id shit myself if i had to face the passion and how loud spoken our fans are. Hes a Human, Hes going through some adversity and when he finds his game again everyone wil be back here saying "I told you he was going to be amazing" We're winning games, we're tied 2-2 in the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs... we werent even slated to make it this year. Petey is one of the reasons we are still watching games in May, If the guys having his adversity, maybe back the guy up publically instead of berating him like all our other fans. Id be rattled and passionless too.
@nobuddy2012
15 күн бұрын
We've been waiting for about 20 -30 games for that to happen. His wallet must be weighing him down.
Keep Lindholm and trade Petey.
@Nickh4929
16 күн бұрын
If they were gonna trade petey why give the kid 90 million? Absolutely atrocious mistake
@emperoralvis6559
16 күн бұрын
We have all of next season before his NMC kicks in. If he isn’t Teemu Sellane next game or not season, I want him out.
hes got an issue either its mental or physical but no one goes to being a game breaker to nothing. I think hes injured. He cant say it because its playoffs. We need the other guys with him to help him instead of hurting him.MIkaev needs to get booted out of the arena. Hes terrible
WHEN yes in. his 3 or 4 yr career has he shown he can win games by himself? BS !!! 11million? what a f'n joke---Boeser/Garland/any of the 3 goalies < The only ones that how UP ever time....Miller/Big Z/Lindholm/Hughes every game or 2 show up-----If the Canucks as a team showed up and played 60min or at least 55, not many or any teams that can beat them 4x
Allvin has to go and his minions too --in the entire history of the franchise EP40 contract is the worst and he is not tradeable unless you retain 7 million per season and then there's Mikheyev's contract so starting next season 16 million plus OEL money wasted and more bad contracts will be negotiated in the off-season to completely scuttle this team--I feel sorry for the honorable men-Miller Hughes Boeser Garland Joshua lindholm and Big Z
He sucks and isnt worth any where near 11.6 If I was a Canuck fan Id be so pissed that he makes more than Beoser, or Hughes. Geeeez Silovs should be making more than this over rated peice of _________
We'll trade you Campbell for him salary retained. Oilers in 7 baby
Who?
Paying Peterson the amount he was paid is a big whoops , he is weak on the puck therefore unable to produce in the playoffs , trade him .
Petterson on ice looks like the kid lost in a mall
@jnbennett6496
16 күн бұрын
looks like a blind man looking for the puck with a cane
Patterson needs to be sent to the minors. Over paid way under performance.
Steady linemates would flipping help lay off Petey 🤠🍻🚬😸
Sit him he has zero drive , bring up nikermakki
He spends more time falling around on his knees. Praying to God that nobody sees just how bad he actually is playing he thinks by getting his hundred points in the regular season. He's done his job just another over paid under performing superstar they never should've got a contract like he did I trade him
He’s going to get hurt😢or sick and not play … and trade him next year
Peterson is too small for playoffs
Suter - Miller - Boeser Joshua - Lindholm - Joshua Hoglander - Blueger - Bains Mik - Aman - Lafferty Sit Petey
@willeb7052
16 күн бұрын
why though, hes still better than mik åman bains hoggy even if he plays really poorly
Play less video games petey
you media are aholes and im not even a canuck fan, leave him alone
Same with pastranak on the bruins basically…
As of day of gm5 media wants fans to chant for pedi before puck drop That just tells everyone pedi is mentally weak & needs a boost Hey pedi do it the old fasioned way suck it up like boeser work hard , goals will come and prove nay sayers like me wrong Needs support lol trade the weak twig, bring in some size & heart
Canucks are going to lose, everyone going point finger at petterson when Vancouver get knocked out out of playoffs
Typical European, fold like a lawn chair in the playoffs.
If i were the coach of the Canucks i would throw in the towel
@jshklt
16 күн бұрын
lmao, Oilers won one in overtime and one in the final minute of the game. Series could EASILY be 3-1 Canucks.
Petterson-Luc Dubois
they should play petterson between garland and joshua, lindholm will carry his new third line, the way petterson is supposed to carry his own line but isnt!
Put him with Joshua and Garland he deserves to play with better players. He puts the Puck on Mickey's stick so often and mickey completely s**** the bed
All you so-called canucks fans giving petterson s***? Look how many opportunities he creates for his line mates and he gets none back. The coach needs to put him with better players so stop blaming Petterson Cause if you are you don't know hockey so shut it
I wished they traded him for Brady.... 💯💯🙏🙏🙌🙌 stop drafting these fuukin softies that flop around and get pushed around like a liittle child... He looks lost out there and for some reason I always thought this guy can skate??? but having guys like Karlsson and Nils???? wtf linemates are those??? at least put Bains and Hogs back they wont produce shit with those guys... Its time to get rid of Petey... He doesnt have what it takes... whats going on with Demko??? Last news I have was on the score news saying " Demko out till game 5 of round 2.... ok Its Game 5 coming up????? WHATS GOING ON WITH DEMKO