How Marvel RUINED HULK
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Time stamps
00:00 intro
1:07 The Incredible Hulk 2008
2:21 Hulk 2012
3:17 Hulk Age Of Ultron
3:43 Ragnarok (The Decline)
4:38 Infinity War
5:42 Professor Hulk
Outro Music: Out And About by David Renda
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They turned the Hulk into a overgrown Care Bear!
Ruined the hulk is an understatement
@djrychlak4443
15 сағат бұрын
From the movies to the comicbooks, the Hulk was turned into a jobber instead of a hero. Hulk is the 13th strongest one there is! doesn't have the same ring to it.
@thegreatacolyt1277
Сағат бұрын
Overstatement
My husband was livid on the drive home from Thor Ragnarok bc he said not only did they bring the hulk down to being roughly the same power level as thor, but he said the whole arc on Sakaar meant there would never be a stand alone Planet Hulk storyline in the MCU.
@Mr_Cinematic
12 күн бұрын
Unfortunately
@johnmeehan7884
2 күн бұрын
Your husband isn't a man if he gets livid over fiction.
@thundergodd6086
Күн бұрын
@@Mr_Cinematic Thor is more powerful than the Hulk. Sorry.
Edward Norton had the perfect Bruce Banner/Hulk cause he’s unstoppable like a real monster he is
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
2 күн бұрын
Exactly, he understood the character. Ruffalo is just a yes man that will do whatever they tell him.
What Disney did to The Hulk is character assassination at it's absolute worse... And I'll always fucking hate them for that!
@SNESfan8
8 күн бұрын
My theory is Disney doesn’t like savage Hulk because Hulk is kinda like a horror movie monster… so they just made him a nerd .. 😂… the worst part of that is it came out of nowhere…. There wasn’t even one scene about how Banner merged personality’s with Hulk ..
@guywithhat7721
19 минут бұрын
You can thank Universal for that
His downfall started in Ragnarok and it got worse in endgame and continued to get worse in she-hulk
@I-speak-U-shut-it
10 күн бұрын
facts. the guy who made thor 1 made Thor a badass. should been him to direct Ragnorak
@FUh_Que_-
4 күн бұрын
Ragnarok was complete trash, Waititi is an unfunny hack
I started to dislike the hulk after ragnarock , not because they made him talk more , but because it felt goofy and out of character imo
@Detrevnl23
14 күн бұрын
i think ragnarok was the best thor movie 🤷
@see2remember
14 күн бұрын
@Detrevnl23 as a movie it was great , i just think a bit of the movie should have toned down the goofy , cuz hulk was kinda treated like comedy and thor was treated like a comedian ... wich i felt like isnt thor 😔, but out of all thor adaptations this one was the best untill they destroyed thor on endgame and afterwards
@Detrevnl23
14 күн бұрын
@@see2remember i think it is thor though, at least chris hemsworth's portrayal of him. i think the first thor movie really set that he was a comedic character and dark world kind of ruined it
@see2remember
14 күн бұрын
@Detrevnl23 i mean , we dont talk about dark world 🤣 But i agree , and imo i kinda prefer the first movie thor as a character and his character ark could have continued as normal , but the difference of comedy from the first thor and ragnarock thor is this: 1st thor = funny cuz he doesnt know human things , so he breaks stuff and talks wierd , that was good imo Ragnarock thor is more of a stand up comedian type , he jokes the marvel way like every other character in marvel nowadays 🤣 What sucks about that is that thor kinda fell in the category of literally every other "tony stark wanna be funny quips" Idk tho , i kinda just liked old marvel movies more ... until avengers 1 was a masterpiece , then it started fading , age of ultron was wasted potential of ultron , civil war was a masterpiece, but everything afterward kinda meh
@see2remember
14 күн бұрын
@Detrevnl23 i mean , we dont talk about dark world 🤣 But i agree , and imo i kinda prefer the first movie thor as a character and his character ark could have continued as normal , but the difference of comedy from the first thor and ragnarock thor is this: 1st thor = funny cuz he doesnt know human things , so he breaks stuff and talks wierd , that was good imo Ragnarock thor is more of a stand up comedian type , he jokes the marvel way like every other character in marvel nowadays 🤣 What sucks about that is that thor kinda fell in the category of literally every other "tony stark wanna be funny quips" Idk tho , i kinda just liked old marvel movies more ... until avengers 1 was a masterpiece , then it started fading , age of ultron was wasted potential of ultron , civil war was a masterpiece, but everything afterward kinda meh
Professor Hulk could've been a badass in the MCU. Imagine he did martial arts training with Cap during the blip, and he also went into combat with giant guns like in the comics. So much wasted potential man 🤦🏾♂️
@Dave102693
6 күн бұрын
And it felt unearned as well.
@Mr_Cinematic
5 күн бұрын
Felt very lazy
To be fair, who hasnt Marvel ruined, in Cinematic or comics.
@plantgang8738
7 күн бұрын
Scott lang
@Unknownagitation
6 күн бұрын
Yeah but nothing to the level as the hulk has been. Hulk is still a charter in the MCU now that hasn’t showed his true power.
@thegreatacolyt1277
4 күн бұрын
Most characters
@joshswicegood3253
Күн бұрын
The hulk by far…he is the most masculine character so they got to bring him down because he is “toxic” according to the libs.
@fafnir7149
22 сағат бұрын
Yeah...
2008 hulk had the best scenes and camera view.
I heard that Lou Ferrigno hates what the MCU has done to Hulk.
@Mr_Cinematic
4 күн бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me
told you, Disney ruins everything
Hulk and Thor were absolutely obliterated because of Endgame. They pushed both characters so far outside of who they are.
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
They really did. It's insane because they were the two strongest Avengers
To me, Disney emasculated the Hulk by Endgame and have no intentions of changing him.
The instant I got out of Infinity War I was pissed, their BIGGEST movie to date with almost every major character in the series still alive, and they completely leave out one of the original avengers and most important characters.
He became Shrek without the accent
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
Wish he had that accent
You asked what characters needs to be fixed? I say Marvel needs to be fixed. Period!
@renamon303
3 күн бұрын
as long blackrock put they wingers in media games movies etc nothing will change
They made a giant green simp.
A green winnie the pooh 😅😂
@Mr_Cinematic
4 күн бұрын
You know it 😂
I agree with everything you said. They have disrespected the Hulk. I don't think.Stan Lee would have liked the idea of taking down the Hulk in a few seconds and downgrading the Hulk. The Hulk should get a rematch with Thanos. The writers could have done much better than make the Hulk gonoutbof character. The fightbwas stupid and cheaply done.
Interesting take. Lol'd at a certain Black Widow related comment. Good video. While I've still generally enjoyed the Hulk in the films there are so many missed opportunities. And that's really the problem with rushing to the team movie format. The Hulk is a rage machine and it is that unrestrained explosion of rage that the viewer can identify with. The cathartic ecstasy of releasing that pent up anger that most of us cage throughout our daily existence. Even Ang Lee's Hulk got that right. Well, Hulk, The Incredible Hulk, Hulk vs., and Planet Hulk. At least we got those.
@StevenLeeMiller
9 күн бұрын
And Avengers too, I suppose.
0:27 Changed their Leadership? King, Bob Iger is still in Charge.
@Mr_Cinematic
15 күн бұрын
It was Bob Chapek for a little while before they brought back iger
we can all agree that if ed norton was still the hulk to this day marvel couldn't turn him into a laughing stock like the current version we have today.
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
I feel like he still would have left at some point due to creative differences
Bob Iger isn’t much of a change in leadership when he was in charge before and created many of the problems we have now.
Did a terrible job in avengers he moved like a gorilla. He was depowered with that age of ultron hulk busta junk
thank you for this video, couldn’t have said it better myself 🙌
IMO Mark Ruffalo is a good actor but he is no Hulk or bruce banner.
@SlayerXGamez
4 сағат бұрын
Agreed
7:17 this took me out 😂😂
it got ruined from Ragnorok. same with thor. that movie was AWFUL
Finally the fans of the Hulk are speaking out on how much they have screwed up a character
@SlayerXGamez
4 сағат бұрын
Fans have been doing this for awhile mo one likes this version of hulk like at app
Great job on the videio.
So far 6.6K views and 113 comments. You are on fire🔥🔥👍
@Mr_Cinematic
2 күн бұрын
Thanks! Wasn't expecting this many views 😂
Agree with everything you said. TBH the MCU was dead to me from Infinity War. First of all making Hulk go AWOL, and then in Endgame neutering Thor from what he became in Ragnarok. Oh yeah, they snipped Vision too in Infinity War. A pattern there...... I'd rather they had Thanos kill Hulk in Infinity War - make it a bit more brutal, Hulk maybe makes him bleed and then Thanos destroys him - would have been better than them ruining everything about Hulk after Infinity.
This video right here is on point. The Hulk is my 3rd favorite superhero and to see how the MCU has massacred my boy.... Awesome video. Can't wait to see more 🔥
@Mr_Cinematic
7 күн бұрын
I appreciate it 🙏🏼
The russo brothers even said they didn't know how to write for the hulk and its ridiculous because hulk has so much potential it was a missed opportunity in endgames finale but instead they gave him a messed up arm and comic relief It was also a slap in the face when he showed up in the infinity war trailer but disappeared completely in the beginning
@Mr_Cinematic
15 күн бұрын
Yeah, it makes no sense that they wouldn't at least try to come up with a plan for the Hulk. He's one of the original Avengers, and he's an essential part of the team. They did a great job with those Avengers movies, but the Hulk was a missed opportunity.
@MOH_AL_K
10 күн бұрын
Nah, it was a Marvel/Disney decision, Not a Russos decision. If Marvel/Disney weren’t the ones that made that call, they would’ve fixed it by now.
@wambokodavid7109
9 күн бұрын
Its better to be honest than lie look what they did to characters they knew to write...chefs kiss.sees to me they know how to write street Level characters
basicaly disney want literaly evrything that they own family frendly pegi 6
Thank you 🙏🏽 for this video
@Mr_Cinematic
5 күн бұрын
I gotchu
From the moment iron man knocked him out, it was all down hill.
Adding to Infinity War, it was really annoying when Hulk entered, hit Thanos once or twice and then just tried to strangle him? Why would he not just keep punching him? Seems like he was barley trying....something I noticed on my last re-watch.
They turned him into a coward.
I have a suggestion idea to M.C.U. people; Have something happen to SmartHulk, and then later he transforms into a new form that is GreyHulk. I imagine M.C.U. GreyHulk, having a very buff, grey skinned body, and he has pail-blue colored eyes. In addition I imagine, GreyHulk’s level of intelligence is lessened, from that of SmartHulk, and he has his own personality too.
You are spot on wirh this..
I haven't heard any theories that Marvel Studios is going to kill off Skaar when they're clearly setting up the Young Avengers, but there is a way to use Skaar to further Hulk's character. Ritson's final act in Secret Invasion is to "declare all off world species enemy combatants" as Ritson wants the government to "find and kill every last one of them." Since Ross will replace Ritson as President in the MCU in Brave New World, Ross will still work with Ritson's act especially when he finds out that Skaar was born off world. If Hulk sees the man who ruined his life attempt to kill his son, he'll finally return to the savage Hulk or unleash the World Breaker.
@Mr_Cinematic
2 күн бұрын
That still sounds better than what we have currently
Personally i think the Eric Bana Hulk should count as the beginning of Hulks tale. And he was far more bada** in that movie... from the guy who made Brokeback Mountain. Seriously, is no one ever going to give Ang Lees Hulk any credit?? We got the best General Ross imaginable in that movie
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
I remember that was the first comic book movie I saw in the theater and that hulk terrified me 😂
@LukeLovesRose
11 сағат бұрын
@@Mr_Cinematic Yeah and Sam Elliots General Ross could terrify people
The Hulk’s relationship with Black Widow is a good thing. Those who think otherwise are what’s wrong with this world today.
@Mr_Cinematic
7 күн бұрын
She wanted the pickle. I know it and you know it
@John93965
7 күн бұрын
@@Mr_Cinematic The relationship wasn't' that bad. Get that through your head.
Hulk got beat by Abomination but he didn’t just give up, throw a tantrum and say Bruce should handle it. He got his resolve and started using creative ways to get the upper hand Why would Hulk suddenly regress after fighting Thanos? You can’t tell me he’d be okay with his allies getting slaughtered and not wanting to do anything to help, especially after he allegedly ‘matured’ during Ragnorok. That’s just character assassination because the filmmakers didn’t know what else to do with the character. Even the merged Brulk creates something as beneficial as a device that can make you age or de-age, yet something as groundbreaking as that gets turned into a throwaway joke like the rest of the character himself
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
You make a very strong point
Yeah F Disney for what they did to Hulk. But if you think about it Hulk defeated Thor in his own movie. Last thing Thor seen before waking up was Hulks fist. Thor fans can't use Thor was electricuted as an excuse because he was already high voltage.
they did that to the winter soldier as well too completely nerfed
Disney/ Marvel could have made hulk do a Mr. Fixit or Grey hulk period with moments of unbridled rage… and instead made hulk a plot device. I would have settled with Banner and hulk being permanently separated by Ancient one… nope. She hulk curing Dr. Hulk was the last straw…
We could get A-Bomb in the future that would be cool
Hulk is basically Shrek at this point
@SlayerXGamez
4 сағат бұрын
Yep
@WraithPeerc
Сағат бұрын
Glad you think so too
Not ruined bro hes just a different adaptation
Hulk was too masculine. Disney doesnt like that.
I prefer even the Ang Lee Hulk over the Marvel Hulk. I guess to fit the storyline for the arrival of Captain Marvel they had to find some way to sideline the most powerful characters, emasculate Hulk and make Thor an overweight fatass.
If you've read the Hulk's recent comic runs you'll truly love the character even more. The comics actually gives both Hulk and Bruce Banner justice. The Immortal Hulk run by Al Ewing is the direction Marvel Studios needs to go with the character. In that run we are introduced to the Devil Hulk. A personality of the Hulk that comes out at night and is way smarter than the Savage Hulk we all know. Devil Hulk was actually the first persona Bruce ever manifested when he was a child. Representing all the damage his father caused him. Devil Hulk is the persona Bruce feared the most. He speaks and thinks like a normal adult, but he is ridiculously strong to where Thor says he's something close to a God. And that's how that persona got the nickname of Devil Hulk. While people want to see a rampaging and mindless Hulk again, I want to see a smarter and more sinister version of the character in live action. That thinks before he acts and comes off as an apex predator that hides in the shadows. Like the factory scene in the 2008 film.
@Mr_Cinematic
7 күн бұрын
I'll have to check it out!
Bring Norton Back
I totally agree! They just made the hulk look like a freaking cartoon circus clown. Do this ring a bell???? Watch WWE Vincent McMahon has ruined every big star that came a different federation made them look like clowns ruined there carees smh.
Us savage Hulk fans demand change! 😤
The Hulk’s best appearances in MCU: The Incredible Hulk, The Avengers and Age Of Ultron.
I share a lot of your outlooks. They made Hulk so sawft, you don't even see him fight in Endgame, and his regeneration ability should've healed that arm in minutes. Fighting Thanos... The punch that takes the Hulk down should've sent him thru the hull of the ship, which never would've happened because the Hulks first punch should've put THANOS thru the hull. They made him kinda pathetic, when, as you say, he should be feared
@Mr_Cinematic
2 күн бұрын
Yeah they really didn't need to weaken the character. Felt kinda lazy
Yoo I like this channel your videos are amazing
@Mr_Cinematic
16 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
Thanos and Hulk fight was bad, it felt like two scaled up non-superhuman fighting in a cardboard world, the Thanos even struggled to lift Hulk, with their strength levels lifting each other should be non-issue. The cop car in first hulk probable was heavier, but Hulk has nor problem to wield it like gloves, and abomination can send him flying with a kick. 🤔
Well yeah thanos had the power stone so it makes sense that he was able to beat him
Truly a failure indeed.
IDGAF what anyone says or thinks, I still stand by the fact that I’ll GLADLY take Hulk (2003) over the MCU Hulk ANY DAY!!
@SlayerXGamez
3 сағат бұрын
Same
Blame the 'woke' crowd. By Endgame, they already felt the need to make the most powerful heroes females, and by 'She-Hulk' we all knew she would be the boss babe who was far superior to him in every way.
The way I in vision the way the incredible Hulk is a mindless Monster filled with rage they don't take the character seriously the classic television show from the 70s takes it more serious than today and that sad because that was about 50 years ago😮
Its sad to see my favorite character gets treated like garbage by the russos especially
Bruce is comic relief. He is pretty weak.
4:45 tbh I agree with everything you said up until this point are we really saying "raped" in this way even in 2024? These are movies about fictional superheroes, the very inappropriate use of rape completely undermines your ability to form valid criticisms. You could have just said "destroyed his character" but seeing as you clearly have yet to become an adult I suppose it's my fault for expecting a mature analysis that doesn't randomly reference one of the worst crimes there is to commit.
They already have a terrifying Hulk for MCU next called She Hulk.
@SlayerXGamez
3 сағат бұрын
Lol true
People love infinity war and Endgame and I ask them. How much would you like them movies it if you’re favorite character got treated like the hulk did. I’m guessing they wouldn’t have liked the movies very much. And what needs to happen and what I’ve been wanting to happen for a long time is World War Hulk. But who knows now because Thor Ragnarok has parts of the World War Hulk storyline in it. So how would they put Hulk back into the gladiator arena and how would they show off Sakar again.
Cringe is the word 🤦🏾♂️
I love Infinity war and endgame but I'm still very angry that big monster Hulk is never seen again throughout the whole movies and endgame I hate it Professor Hulk what the f*** is wrong with you writer's directors you just didn't want to use that big hulk anymore shame on you I wanted to see more hulk smashes to all those villains
You remind me of Cosmonaut Variety Hour.
@Mr_Cinematic
4 күн бұрын
Thank you! His channel definitely inspired me to start making these types of videos
You lost me at marvel can redeem character by having him kill
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
He ain't batman
Marvel DC take you pick all childhood heroes are ruined everything tries to be a romantic comedy. Just be happy Will Ferrell is to old or he would be the next Hulk.
SO very true 🥺🥺🥺🥺.
THOR SAD!!!!!! 4:16
@DryptosaurusDavid
16 күн бұрын
Shut up!
Hulk fans are always fragile.
@Mr_Cinematic
2 күн бұрын
We've been through a lot dawg
There are many characters the mcu ruined over time But some marvel destroied from arrival like task master or galactus from the old fantastic 4 movie You could make a video about how. Much wasted potential ultron was cus in the comics , in the 2d animation series ultron is the ultimate big bad And in the mcu he is a pebble y'know? He could have been the big bad first than thanos , then after thanos he could have even come back for more Another important character that marvel should have in the mcu is dr doom but they would probably treat him like ultron honestly
I agree, give him a situation where he needs the hulk as k think the whome professor hulk being bkth banner and hulk because they settled their differences is bulshit, the hulk js a separate entity with thoughts and feelings, and a nane, this is hust banner wkth muscles and i believe allowing the hulk ti come out more instead of restricing him ti onky fights would be better for the character as it'll actually show theybhave settled their differences and allow each other the time they want
Thor needs fixed
@biguy617
10 күн бұрын
All he needs is t9 work with a different director.
They could’ve introduced red hulk 2008 vibe That would save a lot of childhood
Despite the fact that 2008 hulk looks menacing, Mark Rufallo hulk is much stronger than Edward hulk. Edward hulk could barely lift a army jeep. Did you forget that Banner has different incarnations? Hulk is a monster, yes but he is more than smash smash smash. Go pick up immortal hulk Al Ewing comic run and you see what I am saying. Hulk has personality, he is remorseful, and a good guy. I kinda like Banner hulk but the only issue I have with what they did to him is that he didn't get to fight Thanos.
@PrototypeFreak89
7 күн бұрын
Banner was getting used to controlling hulk. Plus hulk 2008 looks more like the hulk. Ruffalos looks more like an ape.
@osarumenerhunmwunsee
7 күн бұрын
@@PrototypeFreak89 Savage hulk in comic doesn't stand straight like that. He is more like ape but not facially. 2008 hulk look more like dehydrated type of hulk with 3 percent fat. Lmao. facially, he looks more like Hulk. I can say the same with MCU hulk as well because there are different version of hulk drawn by artist.
From Hulk to Woke and from Rage to Gayer
They turned my favourite character into a green wimp
I waited for this m8😂 I used to love the hulk , and mcu wrecked it
@Mr_Cinematic
16 күн бұрын
They really did
It’s funny because most titles from phase 4 & phase 5 are not bad, critics on Rotten Tomatoes still like new MCU films & give them positive review.
Always crying and complaining. There are tons of these videos from other KZread people, and they all say the same thing. It must be for the views. What is with the voice? I've heard it before on other channels. I guess it is the equivalent to the vocal fry for guys.
@Mr_Cinematic
7 күн бұрын
Dont worry, I'll do a cookie monster voice next time
After hearing what Kevin Feige said about us never getting a Hulk movie ever and how they plan on using all the existing Hulk related characters in Brave New World I honestly don't think there's any hope for this character in mainstream at this point and as a Hulk fan that's been a Fan Long before there ever movies made about him that really hurts to realize. We could've had a Hulk TV Show way back during phase 1/2 and from what I read about it it was gonna be a kickass continuation of the 08 film and would've delved deep into the lor/mythos and everything but unfortunately Kevin Feige cancelled it because at the time he wouldn't have direct control of the series. Universal isn't even the reason why we can't have a proper Hulk Trilogy either cus Marvel could still just make the movies and all they'd have to do is ask Universal if they'd distribute it and weather Universal says yes or no wouldn't matter as long as they get an answer thus we'd get a Hulk movie but Disney simply hate Universal too much to let Marvel ask and don't seem to care about the Hulk since we haven't had really anything in recent years for the character in any medium outside the comics. I would kill for a Hulk Series right now, a Video Game like Ultimate Destruction but way better, a full on Trilogy or something, but alas we can't have that within our lifetimes so long as Disney has control of everything and they'll never let go or throw us a bone. There were soo many Hulk Projects that got canned cus of Disney and to this day I'm still pissed we'll never get a proper Planet Hulk and World War Hulk Movie or Show, I miss when Marvel made their Animated Lionsgate films, it baffles me that we never got an animated World War Hulk sequel to Planet Hulk, like at the very least release those older films on Disney+ and maybe bring back that old school Marvel. I mean if the MCU is gonna take a back seat for awhile we still need something to bring us hype and honestly it would do a lot of good. Or even bring back the 90s Hulk series I mean X-Men 97 worked out great so if anything I think that would make everyone happy if they plan on bringing back their 90s shows, Hulk really needs something right now and it's High Time we get something that brings this character back to grace. My first time being introduced to the Hulk were 2 things, the Live Action TV Show starring Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno and the 90s Animated Series which both captured the essence of the characters of Bruce Banner and Hulk respectively well. I think we really need that old school energy back and hopefully that is on the plate after X-Men 97 and maybe then Marvel will get it right and after Secret Wars we can start off with a Proper Hulk Trilogy after the soft reboot of the MCU. In all honesty that maybe the only way to get the Hulk we all know and love back if Disney/Marvel have no intensions of fixing this Hulk, or maybe they do and instead we can get that /live Action Hulk Series that could retroactively fix the character and put him back on the right path.
how about how they ruined everything they ever made since
@Mr_Cinematic
14 сағат бұрын
Guardians vol 3, Shang Chi and loki were the only ones that worked for me
😂😂
id like that one first hulk actor much better =) second one is kinda meh south american average joe jabroni.