How Many Things Are Wrong With This 'Space Shuttle' Image
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On casual inspection this image looks like a Space Shuttle boosting into orbit, but the more you look at it, the weirder it gets.
I felt compelled to try and do something, to realize this glorious creation in the only way I know how - Kerbal Space Program.
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Scott: “Lets compare it to the actual space shuttle Columbia.” *Shows picture of Discovery*
@albclean
4 жыл бұрын
Good eye!!
@dr.fistingstein1566
4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Good eye indeed
@Aereto
4 жыл бұрын
Based indeed
@usercid640
4 жыл бұрын
came here to say this
@glenpatton2576
4 жыл бұрын
based
"But then again Kerbal Space Program did allow me to accidentally fly a nuclear submarine into space." If one phrase encapsulated KSP, this is it.
@simongeard4824
4 жыл бұрын
Anything will fly if you stick enough boosters on it. I wonder, though... a ballistic missile submarine has a sizable collection of rocket boosters on board. How far could you lift the submarine if you somehow attached the missiles to it and fired them all?
@markfergerson2145
4 жыл бұрын
"Accidentally" is the part that gets me. How does one do that ACCIDENTALLY??
@simongeard4824
4 жыл бұрын
@@markfergerson2145 if I remember correctly, he was trying to get it into the sea, but it turned out that the hull was an effective lifting body, backed by plenty of thrust.
@Sal-T
4 жыл бұрын
@@markfergerson2145 Like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJutms-gZ86emKw.html
@Dominion69420
3 жыл бұрын
Ive honestly done it twice by mistake
even the boosters have boosters. seems legit
@TubbyJ420
4 жыл бұрын
Yo dawg, we heard you like rocket boosters, so we put rocket boosters on your rocket boosters, so you can ride to space while you ride to space!
@oremooremo5075
4 жыл бұрын
MOAR boosters!!!
@cosmic_cupcake
4 жыл бұрын
clearly they had some problems with structural integrity and resorted to kerbal enginnering to fix it
@teguenjoyer3842
4 жыл бұрын
Boosterception
@AvatarOfBhaal
4 жыл бұрын
My philosophy when starting out with KSP!
Oh yeah why didn’t we think of strapping two Soyuz rockets to the shuttle carry twice the people
@kred4849
4 жыл бұрын
...by attaching a second space shuttle, of course
@LunnarisLP
4 жыл бұрын
ikr, would have been a great plan
@jacoblyman9441
4 жыл бұрын
This is big brain time!
@cdmonmcginn7561
4 жыл бұрын
i think its a proton
@jean-baptiste6479
4 жыл бұрын
Good idea to attach them together so if one fails the whole assembly fails. Artillery would try to chain two projectiles and fire them simultaneously for more damage that was a complete failure.
Ah yes, R-7’s as side boosters. Sounds legit
@MushVPeets
4 жыл бұрын
Does give me some ideas in KSP RSS-RO though. Energia with oversized Soyuz side boosters, anyone?
@TheArklyte
4 жыл бұрын
@@MushVPeets why not be consistent and not use Proton then? Make kerosin version of it, strap them as side booster, connect Shuttle to Energia, strap small hydrogen tank for Shuttle on top of Energia(used in Vulkan configuration). I mean, if you overkill, at least do it wrong on all levels:D
@MrSpirit99
4 жыл бұрын
The kerbal way.
@DangItshere
4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes KOROLEV CROSS OF DEATH
@john5311
4 жыл бұрын
seems legit*
"how many things are wrong with this picture"? All of the things. All of them are wrong.
@sunnyjim1355
4 жыл бұрын
Now you're just being picky. :)
@tgdm
4 жыл бұрын
The longer you look, the worse it gets.
@jesusmora9379
4 жыл бұрын
it's probably less dangerous that the actual space shuttle since it has no SRBs
@Markle2k
4 жыл бұрын
@@jesusmora9379 It's only less dangerous until you get to the point where the booster's boosters have to be discarded in the Korolev Cross. At that point, we're looking to hear a big KABOOM!
@zoltanposfai3451
4 жыл бұрын
@@Markle2k As this design got rid of the Soyuz centre engines you don't have to stage them separately. Probably one of the few things that make sense on the design.
As a thumbnail it does get your attention. Mission accomplished.
@passthebutterrobot2600
4 жыл бұрын
Usually a thumbnail of "cleavage" is enough to get clicks, but not rocket enthusiast clicks
@FandersonUfo
4 жыл бұрын
@@passthebutterrobot2600 - As a rocket nerd I will admit cleavage thumbs also get my attention.
@LTVoyager
4 жыл бұрын
And causes total loss of credibility for the video for the few of us left you aren’t won over by clickbait.
@Jayfive276
4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean it's beyond criticism. You should not just accept these things.
@FandersonUfo
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jayfive276 - I probably would not base a doctoral thesis on the guy's vid but it's a cool thumbnail.
"There's no central core" *Comrade Dyatlov has entered the chat*
@RmsTitanic59
3 жыл бұрын
And the reactor blows up
@samarvora7185
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, he's still on the toilet.
@chloekaftan
3 жыл бұрын
technically that is true, they never called it the central core, they called it Bloc A
@Norsilca
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great channel.
When your graphic artist gets paid $50 to make an image as quickly as possible, they end up frantically google searching “rocket parts” and indiscriminately pasting them together in Blender
They clearly should’ve put Saturn Vs on the sides instead
@alt8791
3 жыл бұрын
no no no no no they should have had the same design but use a full Saturn V stack as the ET. At least then it would somewhat justify the multiple clips of Saturn V stage separation footage throughout the vide.
@lukeskywalker9731
3 жыл бұрын
No, have the 2 strap SLS onto the Saturn V as boosters, then strap 2 of that that onto the BFR, then strap 2 of that that onto the SeaDragon, and then put the shuttle on the side.
Nobody seems to have mentioned that the elevons are definitely absent.
@AvatarOfBhaal
4 жыл бұрын
They aren't, they're just welded for extra stability! :D
@-danR
4 жыл бұрын
This shuttle doesn't bother with that elevon nonsense. Just hit the RCS thrusters until you're nose-down, and drop like a stone. It's called 'taking "aerodynamics of a brick" to its logical conclusion'.
@-danR
4 жыл бұрын
Also unmentioned is that the shuttle isn't in rollover tail-down mode.
@hellothere5843
4 жыл бұрын
@Kepano 808HI ailerons*
@blue9multimediagroup
3 жыл бұрын
@@hellothere5843 not when the wing runs to the back of the craft
I first read it as “A shuttle load full of whiskey...” 😂
@Magellann365
4 жыл бұрын
Same! Hah
@leozachary9601
4 жыл бұрын
That's the one I'd go up with.
@wyrmofvt
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone was helping themselves to the payload, then.
@greggrimsley5337
4 жыл бұрын
That explains everything
Oh man I lost it when the shuttles as booster stages for a soyuz came up!
4:39 at this point the crew wished they still had those ejection seats
@anarchyantz1564
4 жыл бұрын
WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP WHOOP WHOOP. Was what went through my mind when I saw that, seconds before the ground went through Jebediah's mind.
@legokill1019
4 жыл бұрын
Lies jebediah would be going Weeeeeeh the whole time
@anarchyantz1564
4 жыл бұрын
@@legokill1019 No that was his bladder. :)
The last one didn't end to a deadly lithobreaking moment, so let me call that a succes!
@jesusmora9379
4 жыл бұрын
smart rs25 reuse
@edwinrobert7192
4 жыл бұрын
Your dad is a pencil case
@flodartify
4 жыл бұрын
@@edwinrobert7192 excuse me, what does it mean? English is not my birth language...
@SolarShado
4 жыл бұрын
I literally said, out loud, "any landing you can walk away from..." when it didn't explode...
@edwinrobert7192
4 жыл бұрын
@@flodartify i let autocorrect decide what i wanted to type, that was the outcome 😂😂
Ah, that emergency shuttle water landing takes me back.
@princecharon
4 жыл бұрын
It was a good landing, too: the crew seem uninjured, and the shuttle didn't sink.
That was a pretty excellent water landing at the end Scott, nicely done.
@dandaly7305
4 жыл бұрын
Yes - nice ditching. Maybe go gear-down the next one...
@jkenny1
4 жыл бұрын
@@dandaly7305 Wouldn't that make more problems? Feels like the rear gear would "snag" from the high drag then slam the front down and slow it down too quickly.
@danlock1
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... without displacing any water, even!
Ah, that abort to orbit and land to sea escape system. 😂
It makes me happy, in a way, that Scott Manley also wastes his time on nonsense like the rest of us.
What about uLtRa FoX? That second thumbnail picture with the two space shuttles literally made me laugh out loud!
@amirabudubai2279
4 жыл бұрын
That is about the most kerbal thing I have ever seen.
When someone who is a hopeless idiot in spaceflight history tries to make clipart of a space shuttle.
@Jehty21
4 жыл бұрын
But why and how? Why wouldn't the artist just look at a real photo and copy it?
@anarchyantz1564
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jehty21 Whoa, whoa whoa! Logic? That's cRaZY talk!
@Inetman
4 жыл бұрын
Because you have to somehow link Russians with Columbia catastrophe! =)
@Nanolis
4 жыл бұрын
Russia colluded with the piece of foam that fell off!
@Sonlirain
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jehty21 Because someone made the photo or video of it and could slap them with a copyright claim. It may sound ludicrous but people were actually sued by copyright/patent trolls like that. And of course no one can ever claim they made a photo of an unmarked NASA shuttle taking off using soviet rockets.
I'm guessing it started out as a Buran concept image.
@zeevtarantov
4 жыл бұрын
Buran (well, Energiya) used Zenit boosters, not Soyuz boosters.
@rayceeya8659
4 жыл бұрын
@@zeevtarantov Oh I know, i get Scott's confusion over this because none of it makes sense. The shuttle motors are what got me. I immediately asked "Where are the main engines?". Buran didn't have main engines. It relied entirely on the Energia to get it to orbit. It's orientation is wrong too since both craft would have entered space belly up.
How Many Things Are Wrong With This 'Space Shuttle' Image Scott Manley: Yes
The idea of putting small payloads on the top of the boosters isn't bad, good way to get small experiments into the upper atmosphere without having to do extra launches
1:07 I don’t know if it’s just me but I don’t see any bell nozzles at the back end of that shuttle. I see two aerospikes.
@MatteoMori
4 жыл бұрын
*Everyday astronaut is triggered
@dawid12301d
4 жыл бұрын
I see two toroidal aerospikes and one big linear aerospike below them.
I assume they were delivering 3 payloads. Makes perfect sense :D
"Flight Com! I can't hold it! She's breaking up! She's break - " Scott Manley, astronaut. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology.
I've got to be honest, when you did the mid video outro and cut back in, I was hoping to see you build the Soyuz with 2 shuttles as boosters.
Scott did you know NASA are having behind the scenes talks on another Shuttle because of the Material advancements in the way they seal the re-entry foam on the Booster and Shuttle? They have had significant improvements on tests they have done on the Unmanned X37B. The new way of sealing the reentry foam significantly eliminates it from breaking apart on launch and it has better thermal properties that can withstand much hotter and colder temperatures.
"How hard do you have to squint for this image to become acceptable?"
@littlesayonara3216
4 жыл бұрын
I'm tired of squinting
@Ink_25
4 жыл бұрын
Just close your eyes.
@Anvilshock
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ink_25 Probably what the creator did, too.
@alt8791
3 жыл бұрын
"yes"
How not to get demonitized: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
@ChrisPage68
4 жыл бұрын
Foxtrot Uniform Bravo Alpha Romeo
@punchysonichu5395
4 жыл бұрын
Juliet Uniform Sierra Tango Whiskey Alpha India Tango, *Tango Hotel Echo Yankee* Whiskey India Lima Lima Bravo Alpha November Tango Hotel India Sierra, Tango Oscar Oscar, Charlie Uniform Zulu Golf Oscar Oscar Golf Lima Echo India Sierra Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo 'November Echo Victor India Lima
0:39 that's space shuttle discovery xDD
@YossiRafelson
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty nuts because literally the next graphic has the right orbiter pictured.
@darrengreen7906
4 жыл бұрын
exactly what I was going to comment!
@blue9multimediagroup
3 жыл бұрын
They're both built the same
@taiwanisacountry3117
3 жыл бұрын
@@blue9multimediagroup different name tho
@blue9multimediagroup
3 жыл бұрын
@@taiwanisacountry3117 semantics. Aside from a few technical differences, they're pretty much the same model. Rather take that over the mess they had before lol
That awkward moment when the Soviets stole all of our Space Shuttle blueprints, got them mixed in with their Buran blueprints, and said oh screw it.
that was a hell of a water landing at the end though XD
That two shuttles on a rocket idea reminds me of this old strategy war game. One of the rockets had space shuttles attached to it so multiple shuttles can reach space at the same time.
I love that this single image needed an entire video
6:10 “Any landing you can walk... er... swim away from is a good one.”
I was so hopeful and then that "Check Yo Stagin'" popped up and it had me laughing loud af
@danlock1
4 жыл бұрын
f is relatively quiet in many cases.
Whisky Tango Foxtrott
@GURken
4 жыл бұрын
Lima Mike Alfa Oscar
@donnelangelogarcia6949
4 жыл бұрын
Hotel Alfa Hotel Alfa
@canberradogfarts
4 жыл бұрын
Look OUT, its "pig latin" fir milklinneal Zeds.
@danlock1
4 жыл бұрын
@@canberradogfarts More like "pig NATO phonetic alphabet" ;-)
This is fine, just set SCE to AUX, it's science. Cheers,
me counting the Errors in this picture: one, two, ... yes
“We’ll return to regular service soon.” - Scott Manley, November 17 2019.
Nice work Scott, thanks for the fun
I know this video is basically a shitpost but the intro made me realise how grateful I am of you, Scott. If you asked me 5 or 6 years ago "Whats wrong with this picture?" I would have said "The boosters look weird". but after watching your content for several years now I instantly recognised the Soyuz rockets, the strange engine profile of said Soyuz, the odd staging of the boosters, and the minuscule shuttle engines. *I just wanted to thank you for everything you've taught me and your viewers!*
@LockeRobsta
4 жыл бұрын
Looking thorough the comments I see I missed a lot of other details. Always more to learn.
@Scott Manley, I just realized that I need to see a Korolev Cross Fractal of rockets in KSP, and I think you are just crazy enough to do it. How many can your computer handle?
I really liked the switcheroo, really cracked me up when i saw that on twitter.
Greetings from Greenland, love your vids, especially these kinds of weird concepts. Fly Safe!
I especially love the piano hinge used for the cargo bay doors.
4:21 - Hey, at least the crew survi- oh, nevermind.
Wait... Manley? Kerballing? Have... I travelled back in time somehow?
@alt8791
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been better if he had let Old Him narrate.
Scott, you shows us the crush completion just to show us how you manage to land the buran shuttle on the ocian like a boss! Hail to the king of KSP!!
That pic of the twin shuttles just cracked me up! Awesome!!! I did not know that I needed it in my life!
Nice one, almost clicked away!
It got worse the longer i looked...
5:55 Great water landing. Which begs the question how a real space shuttle would handle it. Would it sink immediately? Would they have any chance of getting out before it sank?
ha! wisky tango foxtrot :)
About to catch a plane? Fly safe!
"how many things are wrong with this picture"? YES
thank you for including the more enjoyable iteratons
I saw this the other day and couldn’t stop laughing, Made my day seeing that you made a video about it
From the icon i thought " this guy has got to be a moron" I wasn't disappointed
Scott, thanks for the video. I was having a "bad day" and this video turned the day around.
Loooool ... I didn't see this coming! I thought you'll be okay after the tweet ... But you are right, it kept me up all night too
I mean it seems kinda pointless to say at this point but the orbiter should be on the bottom during ascent right?
Did you not use music to avoid Copyright attacks from sony?
@IOwnThisHandle
4 жыл бұрын
There was music at the end of the video
@danlock1
4 жыл бұрын
He mentioned being in a hurry, and he might still be suffering from post-Spain-burglary issues
That was fantastic! I loved the shuttles strapped on as boosters😆nice water landing btw
I'll admit that when I read the title on the thumbnail of 'An entire shuttle load of whisky tango foxtrot' I stopped at whisky first time I read it. So, 'entire shuttle load of whiskey' was what initially went through my head, followed by 'damn lucky astronauts on the ISS must be pretty happy with this'. Give me a break though, I'm tired and my pain won't let me sleep, so daft things go through my head at times.
*sees title on notification* okay, artist implementation? *sees **0:04* *HOLY SH*T WTF HOW WHAT WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED MY MIND... WHY???*
@IOwnThisHandle
4 жыл бұрын
Put this comment under the category 'caps cringe'
As soon as I saw that image I thought "Oh please, please make that in KSP so we can see it fail spectacularly"
I once saw a drawing of a space shuttle. The doors to the cargo bay continued into the crew cabin. I assume that this was a proposed cabriolet space shuttle. The drawing was, if I remeber it correctly, on a cd-rom with useful drawings that our bright boss brought home frome the US. Many of those images were hilarious. A pistol missing the trigger, a naval gun that could not be elevated, a settler woman with a hefty plastic surgery on her mammae a huge party dress and a large gun and so on.
One of the things that stood out to me was that although a lot of care was given to the hinges of the payload doors, there are not two separate doors. There's one piece, from the hinges we can see, over to presumably the hinges we can't see. Doors don't do well without a free end that can swing open. And the shape of that superdoor is perfectly cylindrical instead of the bulkier real thing. Ask yourself if you would design a minivan to mimic this shape. Edit: replaced "cargo" with "payload."
0:43 that is in fact space shutle discovery not columbia
hey, leave the person alone; they're an artist, not a rocket scientist.
Found it much easier to find the three correct things than count the wrong things.
i love that you let this get to you.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!... nice one Scotty!
When your main engines fail, and your sidebooster engines fail, but luckily, you remembered to put sideboosters on your sideboosters.
“Whisky Tango Foxtrot” lmao
Also the shuttle itself always maneuvered to the underside on take-off, it never sat on the top as depicted in the thumbnail ;) Love your work. Mitch from Australia.
Scott’s idea for bonus material: Crash compilation
@icollectstories5702
4 жыл бұрын
I think he knows his audience.
Another thing that was wrong with the image is that the space shuttle's delta wings have no elevons. So they can only steer on the yaw axis.
The Space Shuttle would have been so much better had they used recoverable liquid fueled boosters. Imagine if they used two miniaturized Falcon 9s. That would be quite the concept.
I imagine an intact shuttle would float for a long time
Great presentation tonight at NISE in Naperville, IL.
Therapist: Soyuz Shuttle isn't real, it can't hurt you Soyuz Shuttle:
Thanks so much for that. I have a very bad cold right now and needed the chuckle :-)
@IOwnThisHandle
4 жыл бұрын
No one deserves to suffer with a cold.
@marknesselhaus4376
4 жыл бұрын
@@IOwnThisHandle Thanks, when younger, colds were not that big a deal but now in my 60's I have to take more care of whats left ;-)
I love the launch area in the 2-shuttles 1-soyuz picture. Also, ace water landing. 10/10 - Would survive.
Thumbnail do distort people faces on purpose because your brain picks up on mistakes. It amplifies them which makes you look. this is beautiful, it worked.
Omg you actually made an entire video on this!
Most youtubers do not care about the accuracy of their content, only whether they can get as much content out there as quickly as possible. This channel is of course an exception :)
you almost got me tabbing to a new window with your ending music :p
3:45 okay, that is just hilarious, and more bizarre than the thumbnail you talked about in this video.
Anybody noticed the screws holding the "boosters" to the main tank?
More LOL's please! this video gave me the biggest laugh today!!!
That last one was your basic astronaut diaper filler for sure! The three Kerbal facial expressions made it all the more enjoyable.
Definetly going to try this in KSP too
Poetic licence Scott!!
Nice job at the end there Captain Kerbal Sully!!!
I made a space shuttle with a Saturn V as the external fuel tank in KSP. The Saturn V landed on the Mun and splashed down safely like a boss, while the space shuttle returned from LKO and landed on the runway. Probably the best thing I've done in KSP so far.
The bay on the shuttle in the thumbnail also seems to have only one giant door with what appears to be scaled up brass hinges from a kitchen cabinet all along it, or maybe it's three doors with two of them being really small at the front and back.