Not this again

@RichConnerGMN

Ай бұрын

homberguy

@shokvalu8819

Ай бұрын

the fact this only got like 18 likes currently is insane

@m4rcyonstation93

Ай бұрын

investing at 3 replies

@Zejgar

25 күн бұрын

The only Super Mario games are the ones that Tommy Tallarico worked on.

@arkdotgif

25 күн бұрын

8 days 53 likes holy flop

I'm John Nintendo. There are exactly 22 Super Mario games and I'm not telling you what they are.

@jennareynolds1403

Ай бұрын

For the last time John, if you aren't going to order I'm going to have to ask you to leave this Denny's

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

Ай бұрын

​@@jennareynolds1403Sir/Ma'am, this isn't a Denny's, this is a Wendy's.

@weezerfan427

Ай бұрын

theyre all donkey kong jr math

@averagesnail

Ай бұрын

@@weezerfan427 22 likes... Its The Truth

@mysticsamus

Ай бұрын

thanks John!

the virgin jan misali [extensive statistical and textual analysis] vs the chad my mom [calling every video game a 'mario']

@zoey-oey-oeyd4020

19 күн бұрын

important question: does your mom say this about super mario: 3d world

My favorite moment in history was when, right after Diogenes proclaimed a plucked bird was a man, Jan Misali came running in behind him holding up I am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater shouting "BEHOLD, A MAINLINE SUPER MARIO GAME!"

@avawetzel3408

29 күн бұрын

This is my favourite comment on this video, I had to screenshot it and send it to a friend.

@LavaCreeperPeople

28 күн бұрын

ok

@ArtemisAYO

26 күн бұрын

jan Misali* The "jan" is uncapitalised.

There's a lot of lines here that flashbanged me but i have to shout out "you can't analyze paratext like you analyze text without first jumping on it to remove the wings" as a near-perfect joke

@yuvalne

Ай бұрын

help someone please explain it to me

@palas2891

Ай бұрын

@@yuvalne In Mario games, enemies that are a variant of a different enemy but with wings are called "para" like the Parakoopa. Jumping on them removes the wings, thus turning a Parakoopa into a Koopa.

@yuvalne

Ай бұрын

@@palas2891 ohhhh thanks!

@silvercharts

Ай бұрын

This is peak performance Jan

@baconsandwich1887

Ай бұрын

Agreed, that one legitimately made me pause and lower my head because that was just. so smooth. perfectly executed joke, including just moving on like nothing happened afterwards

babe wake up we need to discuss how many super mario games there are again

@tyedye3d

Ай бұрын

i was literally going to say this lol

@monkeywithakeyboard722

Ай бұрын

Babe! Stop saying there's only twenty mario games, you're not even making sense!

@Squirl7504

Ай бұрын

+

@zakronthesheep

Ай бұрын

for 2 hours

@qwakeshaek

Ай бұрын

I see you everywhere!

two things: 1. I Am A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater is probably the best gotcha I've ever seen in a video like this and I struggled to not wake up my sleeping child by laughing out loud when I saw it 2. the list of games to play to get the whole context of the super mario games has big "Gamechamp3000 gives a list of required reading for the Kingdom Hearts series" energy

@greenknight421

Ай бұрын

What video was that from Gamechamp?

@Silas_MN

Ай бұрын

@@greenknight421 “The Actual True Kingdom Hearts Play Order”

"so you can make a jumper about your favourite jumper" best line written by a human "you wear it and it's soft, so it's software" second best line written by a human

@octonine6212

Ай бұрын

"the reason this is my favorite definition is that it's so meticulously crafted, it accounts for so many edge cases, and it includes I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater" third best line written by a human (I broke into laughter so hard when I heard this line I had to pause the video to calm myself)

@IlSharmouta

28 күн бұрын

"the 'Super Mario Bros.' movie, or the 'The Super Mario Bros. Movie' movie" is another highlight from me.

@tora9567

26 күн бұрын

My favorite is “you can’t analyze paratext like you can text without first jumping on it to remove it’s wings”

Whay a survey. Clicking the "yes, I am a Super Mario expert!" checkbox then immediately being faced with a dozen arcade games I'd never heard of was a very humbling experience, I must say.

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

Just a dozen!?!?!?

@kruks

Ай бұрын

I do know of a lot of those games but felt very uncomfortable clicking the "expert" box. It just goes to show, the more you know, the more you realize you don't know.

@Ethan-ky3ei

Ай бұрын

​@kruks I fell into an extremely ironic trap: I didn't consider that being aware *of* the Dunning Kruger Effect would not necessarily protect me *from* the Dunning Kruger Effect

@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036

27 күн бұрын

I remember having more or less the same experience lol

@halyoalex8942

27 күн бұрын

@@Ethan-ky3ei Is that called the Dunning-Kruger Effect Effect?

I love the respondent at 1:23:32 who says Super Mario Run doesn’t count because it’s “just made for nintendo to make money”. You know, as opposed to all the other games in the series, which Nintendo did not profit from. I also like to imagine the two people who claimed “mobile games are not real” aren’t saying mobile games don’t count, but rather that they don’t think mobile games exist at all. Super Mario Run is actually an elaborate hoax

@johnclark926

Ай бұрын

All of the Super Mario Run gameplay footage has just been modded New Super Mario Bros. U footage cropped to a portrait aspect ratio

@Ryann9

Ай бұрын

Everyone famously knows that every video game Nintendo made was at a loss, up until Super Mario Run.

@usernametaken017

Ай бұрын

​@@Ryann9something something gamecube wii u

@3eve0n

Ай бұрын

mobile games have a bad rep for a very good reason but unfortunately that means that some games get undeserved hate for it.

@strangejune

Ай бұрын

super mario run is a hoax invented by big nintendo to sell more mario

I'm sorry Jan, but out of all the great quotes in this video, my favorite is by far whoever asked in the survey, "Could Mario knit a sweater so Super that he himself could not wear it?"

@user-up8kr9cj1s

29 күн бұрын

explain the joke please

@fhey7903

28 күн бұрын

@@user-up8kr9cj1s it's a reference to the classic pop-theology conundrum "Could God create a mountain so big that He Himself couldn't move it?" which is usually posed as an exploration of what it means for someone to be omnipotent/all-powerful.

8:23 Hey, that's me!! Thanks for mentioning my marathon! Loved your original video and was honored to come to the same conclusion of 18 mainline games. I am shocked to see 2 more hours of this (one hour for every new mainline game since the first video lol). Good stuff!

@usernametaken017

16 күн бұрын

oh hi there kosmicd12

I love how youtube classified this video as a video about "I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater" meaning that this is undoubtedly the most super mario game

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

Ай бұрын

It also means this video is officially part of the Super Mario series

@Cassapphic

Ай бұрын

you can manually choose which game you put there so I assume its a deliberate bit but like, its a good bit and foreshadowing that most people would not notice until it came up.

@Asiago9

Ай бұрын

It most certainly is a mainline super Mario Bros. Game

@aturchomicz821

Ай бұрын

ACTUAL GOD TIER JOKE WTF NO WAY AAA💀😭

@Minty_Meeo

Ай бұрын

If KZread Gaming calls it a video game, I guess I have to agree.

The singular take of “every game is a mario game except SM 3D World” is honestly an impressively funny bit

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

I’m also very surprised NO ONE put the whole list as a Mario game

@Bobberation

Ай бұрын

@@meee_5155 ✓ interactive ✓ on an electronic device ✓ has super mario in the title checks out to me

@mariotheundying

Ай бұрын

I wonder why specifically 3DWorld too, and it isn't cuz "furry game" because SMB3 and 3DLand exist

@glschrauben

Ай бұрын

​​@@mariotheundying Truthfully they probably just thought It'd be funny to include every game except for exactly one of the "probably mainline" ones and randomly chose 3d world. Nothing against the game itself, just part of the bit. Edit: The way that the submission was described also implied that it was specifically just the original 3d world that was omitted and not 3d world + bowser's fury, which further indicates that the person who submitted that response probably doesn't have anything against 3d world for real.

@thomasdougherty6737

Ай бұрын

i also love the implication that the only two video games ever made that aren’t mario games are 3D World and Pong

you know what, yes, you convinced me. super mario sweater is 100% a mainline mario game i'm down for it. editing this comment at about 1:54:00ish into watching to say that not only is super mario sweater a canon mario game, but by accounts of it being an actual sweater i am knitting it is the ONLY canon mario game as it does happen in real life.

@fredericksmith7942

Күн бұрын

To be fair, the Napoleonic Wars happened in real life but that doesn’t make them cannon to Mario. Now that I’m typing that I now realize that there’s probably some official drawing of Mario dressed as Napoleon from like 1989. Nevermind! What you said makes perfect sense I am just not sober.

1:01:27 "'Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story', a game about the story inside of both 'Mario' and 'Luigi: Bowser'" this is the master-class level of bit that I've come to expect from this channel.

I adore the manic energy of jan showing qualitative survey responses of people getting increasingly angry about the questions they're being asked all the while, they just patiently respond with the most calm, hyper-specific way to debunk their thought process

@Pixelcraftian

Ай бұрын

@@eveningstella go home

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

@@Pixelcraftianwoah you’re everywhere in KZread comments

@pichi__

Ай бұрын

@@eveningstellacan this man live in peace lmao

@ClassicPopble

Ай бұрын

@@eveningstella It's been 8 years of people making the same """joke""" under all his comments

@usernametaken017

Ай бұрын

If I'm A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater is not a game in the Super Mario franchise, then why is it the video game that appears in the description of this video?

I'd like to say everyone loves this video, but unfortunately there's no consensus.

@boldCactuslad

Ай бұрын

Although there is an extremely strong and isolated cluster of 19 choices regarding love towards this video forming a distinct and statistically significant island at the top right of this chart, we, for reasons unknowable, believe that no consensus has been reached.

@iantaakalla8180

Ай бұрын

We could at least say 5% of people love this video for catering to their beliefs.

@Thetexianheathen

Ай бұрын

Over 95% concencus, 18k likes 278 dislikes. This video is a Mario game.

@iantaakalla8180

Ай бұрын

But there needs to be gameplay, otherwise every KZread video is a mainline Super Mario game. This is the issue with the Sweater thingy.

@dawsonescott8428

Ай бұрын

@@boldCactusladLOL

36:10 I'm sorry but saying every single game is a mainline Super Mario game except Super Mario 3D World is a way better bit than saying every single game is a mainline Super Mario game. Top tier, actually.

@Aryasvitkona

12 күн бұрын

It would have been an even better bit if the other two chucklefucks stuck to their 358 bit. Like having 2 guys say all 358 and one guy saying 357 adds in the "okay what the fuck is this your actual opinion?!" Possibility, while having the longest list be 357 makes it nigh certain he's a chucklefuck. Like sure in the former he would *probably* be a chucklefuck but there's a decent chance he's not. In the latter it's all but guaranteed.

Shout out to that 0.02% that consider the original Super Mario Bros a minor spinoff that is not a distinct entry in the series

@ethertheeos

24 күн бұрын

I mean, you certainly could have said it was a minor spinoff of Mario Bros when it was released

@TheRealVbros

22 күн бұрын

@@ethertheeosthere are no mainline Mario games as they are all Donkey Kong spin-offs

@ethertheeos

21 күн бұрын

@@TheRealVbros Wrong, they are all Popeye bootlegs

@TheRealVbros

21 күн бұрын

@@ethertheeos true

@usernametaken017

16 күн бұрын

Well it's not a distinct entry because uhh uhhh

My #1 takeaway from this is that I want the multi-hour breakdown of what you DO consider to be "ambiguously video games"

@HBMmaster

Ай бұрын

(slams fist on table) PAPER MARIO WEB BROWSER

@GamerTowerDX

Ай бұрын

​@@HBMmaster Do it coward no bolas

@vvvisection

Ай бұрын

there is a pretty neat ahoy video that goes into this a little looking into what the first video game was

@NYKevin100

Ай бұрын

Let's go in another direction: Are old-school roguelikes "video games"? They (mostly) use colored ASCII art to render the environment, although modern ones often have an option to use graphical tiles instead. Does that mean that they're "text games" and not video games? If you count LCD screens, it seems difficult to argue that you can't count text as well. But then you've opened the door. Now we come to old-school text adventures, which use text to _describe_ the environment, and you have to visualize it yourself. You also use text to tell the game what you want to do next (typing commands such as GET YE FLASK to pick something up). Are those video games, or is this different because the text is being used as text and not as a means of drawing an image?

@TheBlarghaflargh

Ай бұрын

@@NYKevin100 I'd say the biggest difference between the two is the intent of the ascii characters. In a text adventure game they are used as words, and oldschool roguelikes use them to represent interactive elements. But honestly i would count both as video games anyway the video part of video games only really defines what you are using to play it not whether it has active animation or not.

no, but like, seriously, what do you MEAN doctor mario has a daughter who's a catgirl!?!?

@christiannorton9400

24 күн бұрын

He WHAT

you know, saying "Cranky Kong aged faster than Mario" is also a valid way to explain the contradiction

@logicalfundy

Ай бұрын

That was something that was bought up in MatPat's video - gorillas have a shorter lifespan than humans. Although at the end of the day, Nintendo doesn't really strive to maintain consistency in Mario games, so I personally wouldn't be surprised if some things were just outright contradictory. They may call back to other games, but they're essentially supposed to stand on their own.

@DanielLCarrier

24 күн бұрын

@@logicalfundy There's already plenty of contradictions. Is Cranky Kong DK's grandpa or dad? Is Mario a 2d man in a 2d world, a 3d man in a 3d world, or a 2d man in a 3d world? Is that mushroom thing on Toad's head a hat or part of his head? Is Mario normally as tall as Peach, or is he super short except when he eats a mushroom?

@gregoryhayes7569

11 күн бұрын

I personally just like the idea that Donkey Kong Country is set in the future of the Mario games, and the Donkey Kong that we see in Mario Kart, Mario Party, and the sports games is actually Cranky. The DK connection is also fun because Diddy Kong Racing implies that Banjo and Kazooie and Conker's Bad Fur Day are part of Mario canon.

@DanielLCarrier

10 күн бұрын

@@gregoryhayes7569 Wouldn't that also imply that Mario and Baby Mario are different people, since they can race together in some Mario Kart games?

@gregoryhayes7569

6 күн бұрын

@@DanielLCarrier I don't have a good answer to that. You're probably right.

Ok but imagine being that one guy who wrote the "We Didn't Start the Fire" parody. Imagine your goof on a survey getting a specific shout out in a video like this. That just seems so fun.

@letsplaytodayusa

Ай бұрын

I want to see a full version of it SO BADLY

@IlSharmouta

28 күн бұрын

@@letsplaytodayusa the full version is on the channel. it was a spinoff video in the "how many Super Mario games are there?" series, but not a mainline entry.

@usernametaken017

16 күн бұрын

​@@IlSharmoutahow can you be so sure?

I'm not saying that I intentionally said "every mainline Mario game" just to get in a future jan Misali video. But I'm also not NOT saying that.

@louisng114

Ай бұрын

"GMTK Game Jam 2024 theme = Mario" confirmed.

@usernametaken017

Ай бұрын

Is Mind over Magnet a super mario game

@LuigiXHero

Ай бұрын

Don't be shy drop your list Mark

@JAlanne

Ай бұрын

​@@louisng114 Nintendo will call a hit on him and try to sue each and every person who thought about the game jam

@Mrnotpib

Ай бұрын

You sure aren’t saying not that you aren’t already said that, aren’t you?

Girl, we've been knowing what a super mario game is. I Am A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater. HUH????

@WhirlyBeepBoops

Ай бұрын

I'm a Super Mario sweater softwear

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

Ай бұрын

If you don't knit a Super Mario sweater during your Super Mario marathon, it isn't officially a part of the "Every Super Mario Marathon" series

@anishchetana7934

Ай бұрын

our drawings - princess movie is a mainline entry into the super mario brothers series

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

KZread classified this video as an I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater video, therefore that is the most Mario Mario game.

@Bongo-sb1gs

Ай бұрын

i am a teacher: super mario sweater is my new favourite game and i really really hope people start adding it to their all super mario marathons

I think another angle worth exploring is 'type of guy who thinks only the good mario games are mainline', and the definition of good is 'I played it and I enjoyed it'

@cara-seyun

22 күн бұрын

I think that’s the way most people define it (Or at least, “I want to play it”)

@Hewer86

21 күн бұрын

Pretty close to the "vibes" approach

@TheMarinaDiamandis

15 күн бұрын

this is my take and why i consider yoshi’s island a mainline mario game

You should organize all these games into phylogenetic tree and see what patterns come up. I unironically think that would be more helpful, provided you agree with the assertion that "with the exception of the first Super Mario game, every game in the Super Mario series is a direct descendant of a previous game in the Super Mario series"

@DanielLCarrier

24 күн бұрын

Super Mario Bros. 2 is a direct descendant of Doki Doki Panic, which is not a previous game in the Super Mario series. It only works if we allow it to be a direct descendant of more than one game, which means it's not a phylogenetic tree. But it would be nice to at least make some kind of graph.

@hunted4blood

24 күн бұрын

@@DanielLCarrier Ok more of a family tree than a phylogenetic tree. I still think it would be an interesting exercise to see what the longest branches are.

@Corviidei

20 күн бұрын

I was thinking the same. Like, the yoshi’s island series is descended from Mario world, a mainline Mario game, but is not mainline itself.

@DanielLCarrier

20 күн бұрын

@@Corviidei That's different. They were asking if every mainline game (besides the first) was descended from another mainline game. Not of only mineline games are descended from mainline games.

1:08:20 referring to ten microgames "a hundredth of a milligame" had me ROLLING

@demi172

Ай бұрын

its like the nerdiest thing i've ever heard and i love it

1:35:30 In Super Paper Mario you don't play as Mario, you play as Paper Mario, which is a different character entirely as seen in Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam

@spades_gameing

Ай бұрын

actually you play as Jumpman's monster

@Hewer86

Ай бұрын

He's a different character as seen in Paper Jam, he's not a different character as seen in Super Paper Mario

@SeraFilmYT

Ай бұрын

Okay, but do we know if we play as the same Mario in *any* of the Mario games? As you said, there has been at least this one instance where there were two separate versions of Mario from two parallel universes, so these are a thing in the Mario franchise. How do we know, which games are even featuring the same incarnation of Mario? Is the Mario RPG Mario the same Mario as the Mario + Luigi Mario? Is Paper Mario with a white border the same character as Paper Mario without the white border? If SMB 3 is a play, is the 'mainline Mario' the character within the play or the actor playing the character? Or both/neither? Is the story of a lot of Mario games so similar because they are the same events playing out slightly differently in different universes??? Idk

@jclkaytwo

Ай бұрын

honestly I refuse to accept that paper jam happened. paper mario is just mario in a different artstyle.

@Hewer86

Ай бұрын

@@jclkaytwo there's technically nothing in Paper Jam confirming that the paper world the separate Paper Mario comes from is the same as the world of the Paper Mario series, so yeah Paper Mario just being different art style is a valid interpretation ...almost, if we ignore the many references to the characters themselves being explicitly made of paper especially in Sticker Star onwards...ok how about just Sticker Star onwards is the paper world from Paper Jam

absolutely love that this has been filed on youtube gaming under "i am a teacher: super mario no sweater"

@sirhandsome8070

21 күн бұрын

W pfp

I love the way you handle data. Going over all the results and explaining what they could mean and how the data may be flawed, yet not completely dismissing it, makes for a much more interesting video than either cutting out any complicated data or including everything without question. Instead of looking for rigid answers you went over what the data would mean based on including or not including the answers from various people based on how they answered.

I would pay to see a Mario marathon where someone has to play "I Am A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater" after finishing Lost Levels.

"Could Mario knit a sweater so Super that he himself could not wear it?" goes so hard

@usernametaken017

Ай бұрын

If sweater, then only teacher 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

@Wing_cap

Ай бұрын

My pick for best line in the video

@isaacthered

Ай бұрын

If a Super Mario Sweater exists, why is there fast fashion in the world?

@realMoistNugget

Ай бұрын

If Mario is truly Superbenevolent, then how come there's goombas in the world?

@petthepetra

Ай бұрын

perchance.

This guy made an entire movie about classifications about which Mario games are Super. I don't know how he managed to entertain me for two hours, but that really was amazing. He really layed everything out, explained his points very well, used both linguistics and math. And just the way he edited everything together, that's really some cool stuff. Props to you, dude. This was a great video.

Why does asking the question "What is this thing exactly?" seem to always return the answer "This thing isn't actually real." when you go far enough.

@Rainbro359

23 күн бұрын

Because it turns out that the concepts we invent to conceptualise the world don't actually have to line up with reality very well. Like the Ship of Theseus problem: turns out "ship" is just something we made up that has no actual significant meaning when you really look at it closely. Its all just atoms.

@knoggi6615

22 күн бұрын

Because words are a concept that has no truth behind them, as there is no physical explanation as to what is a book, you can always start redefining what words mean, hence why questions like „what is a super mario game“ are inherently futile

@Aryasvitkona

12 күн бұрын

It brings back Diogenes absolutely roasting Plato with the Behold a Man! Bit

@gregoryhayes7569

11 күн бұрын

Because the things that *are* real (whatever they are) are so far beneath our ability to perceive them that our entire world is effectively constructed of abstractions. In the game of Go, a very important strategic concept is the "group". Groups appear naturally on the board as stones are placed, and have properties such as "alive" and "dead" that effectively determine who wins the game. And yet if you read the rules of Go, you will find no mention of any of these concepts. They are not "real". Pretty much everything we can perceive is like that.

Major respect to the guy at 6:32 willing to write a whole paragraph explaining why Mario Clock is a mainline entry

@elizabethb4168

Ай бұрын

They convinced me

@cadesmith6842

Ай бұрын

Whats the time stamp?

@crazynaut223

Ай бұрын

@@cadesmith68426:32

@perpotet4629

Ай бұрын

There have been official sources that lists run as mainline but not mario clock. I believe that is a good reason to seperate those two games, so the argument fails(in my opinion). This is regardless only true if we consider run as mainline which it is arguably not as it is not on Nintendo platforms.

@algotkristoffersson15

Ай бұрын

Of course the difference is that Mario run has levels while the clock doesn’t

Hey I'm really really glad you enjoyed the stream !!

@Writer_Productions_Map

Ай бұрын

Furst here

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

Woah it’s you

@supercamborg4218

23 күн бұрын

I should check out your channel

I just find it a more compelling narrative if modern Mario is Arcade Mario's son, with Pauline as his... mom? Mother in law? "aunt" in the sense of "good friend of my Dad's"? I like the way it adds a certain amount of sense of history to the games, that this is a legacy current Mario is carrying on, instead of "this man has dealt with so much nonsense". It gives a cool narrative foiling for him and DK cause it's like "my dad was your dad's enemy but now we are friends" which is a nice message and it puts less pressure for consistency over this obviously deeply sprawling characterization

The "I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater (NES, 1986)" section immediately made me like and subscribe more than any actual request for me to like and subscribe would have.

i really enjoy the idea of classifying clubhouse games: 51 worldwide classics as a mario game specifically under the classification of “mario is playable” because you certainly do play cards with mario on them

@Somari64

Ай бұрын

the individual card games in 64 ds and clubhouse games are all distinct entries in the Super Mario series

@hidbid1

Ай бұрын

this is genius

@chiangkai-shrek1575

Ай бұрын

It doesn't have to be that obtuse either. All the Super Smash Brothers games have Mario as a playable character.

@iantaakalla8180

Ай бұрын

Man, I love playing Sora, Banjo and Kazooie, and a Squid Kid in a Mario game.

@vickypedia1308

Ай бұрын

​@@iantaakalla8180 I mean, Squid Kid is also playable in Mario Kart 8...

WHERE IS THE SPEEDRUN COMMUNITY FOR SUPER MARIO SWEATER??

@EvdogMusic

Ай бұрын

SUPER MARIO SWEATER FOR NEXT GDQ!

@Ryann9

Ай бұрын

I want someone to make a documentary, that's at least an hour long, about the history of I am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater speedrunning.

@EpicScizor

Ай бұрын

My mom and grandmother could both be serious competitors :O

@lily_flower0686

29 күн бұрын

I unironically want this. What are the best measurements and character sprite for the fastest sweater? What are the optimal knitting tool to compete on a high level? I genuinely want to know

I think having "unsure" options is great because people guessing/going off vibes for unfamiliar games is basically just a convolution of the data set- a classic smoothing operation. Also, anyone who is unfamiliar or unsure was less likely to complete the survey.

Every modded SM64 cartridge with a different set of mods is a distinct entry in the Super Mario series, but only while someone is playing them.

@poudink5791

23 күн бұрын

sm64 mods are rarely actually put int cartridges, unless you count everdrives.

After hearing Misali Misali for two combined hours, I realize the main strength of their presentational style. In a few words, what makes Misali stand out is this "warm formality." by which I mean, a lot of YTers in this circle/circles are a lot more casual, while Misali is more "scholarly" - upright but not too head-on - the incarnation of "in my humble opinion". Misali uses this professor aura to do added damage when fearlessly stating bold hypotheses or swiftly tossing in the wildest knee-snappers.

@binsworth7217

Ай бұрын

In fewer words, a pedant but not overly pedantic

@cara-seyun

29 күн бұрын

Knee-slappers? Or…

@darksentinel082

26 күн бұрын

when misali said “DIC (dick) Entertainment, pronounced like deek” out loud I had to pause the video and pace around my kitchen laughing, for like 2 minutes. The formality of their work makes the comedic hits stand out tenfold

@kiranaun9593

25 күн бұрын

It's the autism for sure

@L3X1N

23 күн бұрын

@@cara-seyun A knee-slapper with the force and precision of a swung baseball bat.

i think having only a quarter of a percent being jokesters is because the survey was so long that people would have a hard time committing to the bit for that amount of time.

@RichConnerGMN

Ай бұрын

nice pfp

@quisken7793

Ай бұрын

exactly the situation

@TymberJ

Ай бұрын

And anyone who commits to the bit that hard earned it.

@DuskoftheTwilight

Ай бұрын

Makes the person who said yes to everything except 3D World even funnier

i'm only a quarter of the way through this video so far but i think my favorite part is Misali acknowledging when respondents to the survey did a good bit with things like "saying everything except super mario 3d world was a mario game"

The issue with the knitting game is that the entertainment comes from the physical act of knitting the sweater, not from what's going on onscreen. A video game provides its primary source of entertainment from onscreen data. Super Mario: Sweater isn't a video game, it's a digital instruction manual or Mario sweater calculator.

@hernalius7630

Ай бұрын

In keep talking and nobody explodes, the main source of entertainment is between you and your friend, not what's happening on screen. Does that make it not a video game?

@EpicScizor

Ай бұрын

​@@hernalius7630Funnily enough I already do think Keep talking is straddling the line of being a video game

@earzo7

Ай бұрын

So does a rhythm game cease to be a video game if a skilled players can beat it using the sound cues alone?

@AbdullahKhan-el6xw

29 күн бұрын

@@hernalius7630you are still entertained by the bomb about to explode in front of you

@robotortoise

29 күн бұрын

Then what of Nintendo Labo? or 1-2 Switch? AR games on the 3DS? all of those involve their primary fun from real-life elements....

I expect a Heaven Studio level of the ending remix by the end of the weekend.

@ThatZeoGalAgain

Ай бұрын

👀

@usernametaken017

Ай бұрын

Challenge accepted apparently

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

Someone better get on it

@Glasshouse828

Ай бұрын

Off topic but I’m surprised he didn’t entertain the possibility that there is no Donkey Kong The Third and that the modern Donkey Kong & Baby DK are both Donkey Kong Jr. when talking about the Mario & Jumpman distinction theory

@deccydoesstuff

Ай бұрын

I'm already working on it! Let you know when its done :) EDIT : It is done, the second entry in the series- kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZqMpdOQc87Yaaw.html

"average person thinks there are 24 games in the Super Mario series" factoid actualy just statistical error. average person thinks there are 19 games in the Super Mario series. Super Mario Georg, who lives in cave & counts every Mario game as a Super Mario game (except Super Mario 3D World), is an outlier adn should not have been counted

@iantaakalla8180

Ай бұрын

When did the Spiders Georg copypasta become popular again?

@Booksds

Ай бұрын

Very happy that you included the “adn”, it’s something that’s missed in a lot of Spiders Georg memes

@Hewer86

Ай бұрын

I am in disbelief at encountering this meme

@pocketpc_

Ай бұрын

@@iantaakalla8180 It's stayed pretty consistently popular in my circle (which is pretty much the center section of the Venn diagram of Tumblr and Reddit)

@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN

Ай бұрын

The median is the important number here. Most people think the big 19 games plus one or two of the edge cases (but rarely the same ones) count.

My musical mind has had SO many dreams of a medley with like every mario or even Nintendo song. The remixed end song is the closest thing that has ever gotten close to that. Thank you so much

This is an interesting case study in response burden, AKA the reason that professional surveys don't have hundreds of questions.

"Kingdom Hearts does it" Might actually be the scariest way i've ever seen to classify something as "part of the main series"

@Booksds

Ай бұрын

Following the addition of Sora to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater is now a mainline game in the Kingdom Hearts series

@Stroomp

Ай бұрын

I think that might be the scariest way to justify anything, tbh. lol

@GamerTowerDX

Ай бұрын

@@Stroomp Now I want a Slasher Horror movie where the only answer we get from the killer about why they kill is "Kingdom Hearts does it"

@egg_musubi

Ай бұрын

The media analysis version of "it works in Kerbal Space Program"

@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas

Ай бұрын

"Kingdom Hearts has screwed us again!!"

A friend of mine has a take that is so strange to me that I genuinely didn't even consider it as a possibility. He asserts that with the release of Super Mario 64, a core part of the series identity changed from 2D to 3D, and thus any 2D games released after (such as the New Supers and Wonder) do not count as mainline.

@Oenols

Ай бұрын

This is how I have intuitively conceived of the mainline Super Mario games as well. I've seen it as a core of flagship console games which, starting with Super Mario 64, changed from a series of linear sidescrolling platformers into a series of 3D collectathons. To me the New Soup games never felt like part of this core series, neither did the 3D World games, which game design wise have more in common with its 2D predecessors than they do with 64. The earlier handhelds also felt to me like a different thing. I'm surprised not many more people have brought up this idea, which until I started watching these videos and reflecting on it just seemed kind of intuitively correct. Perhaps on reflection one can take a broader view of the mainline and instead view the "flagship" games as a sub-series within it, just as one could view, say, the Land, New Soup, 3D World and Maker games as other sub-series.

@swordandpenguin8983

Ай бұрын

@@Oenols I would actually argue that 3D World is one of the most "flagship" games. If you look at things like merchandizing and the Universal theme parks, the core Mario aesthetic seems to be heavily based on 3D World these days.

@Oenols

Ай бұрын

@@swordandpenguin8983 You could be right. I guess my subjective view is shaped by how the big Mario games in my formative years were 64, Sunshine and Galaxy. The New Soup and 3D World games when they came out felt like they were trying to be a different thing. The one that's really confusing me now though is Wonder which obviously isn't a follow-up to Odyssey, but also doesn't slot into any other established sub-series. Anyway I'm not sure if this conception I've distinctly had of the series in my mind is really described by the term "mainline". I certainly haven't consciously applied this word to it (and I guess I wouldn't anyway, since I'm not a native English speaker). I certainly couldn't translate my pre-existing ideas easily into the terms used in the survey, since the relation the New Soups etc. stand in to the "core games" in my mind isn't really adequately covered by the word "spin-off".

@jclkaytwo

Ай бұрын

​​@@Oenolscorrect me if I'm wrong on this assumption, but do you believe that no future 2D mario can possibly be mainline again?

@Oenols

Ай бұрын

@@jclkaytwo I don't, and in fact I'm undecided on Wonder which doesn't seem consciously backwards-looking in the same way (I have not yet played it)

I need to watch this entire video again just to compile all the amazing one-liners - so you can make a jumper about your favourite jumper - the 'Super Mario Bros.' movie, or the 'The Super Mario Bros. Movie' movie - There have been so many Warioware Microgames based specifically on the NES game Super Mario Bros. that they collectively add up to well over a hundredth of a milligame - You can’t analyze paratext the same way you analyze text without jumping on it first to remove the wings

@gym3857

7 күн бұрын

thank you for compiling some of the most important information of the video

I like that, while fans of game series with very few games will look for spiritual successors (i.e. F.E.A.R., which had two mediocre sequels and that's all, but now has games like Trepang2 and Selaco), Mario fans have so many games they have to start discounting them.

53:36 "Well you wear it, and it is soft. That makes it software" fucking killed me

based off that sweater section, Misali's next hit video is gonna be "how many video games are there?" based off the results of a 10+ hour, over 1,000 question long google forms survey.

@octonine6212

Ай бұрын

I follow his Tumblr, after this survey he's never using Google Forms again.

@Rainbro359

Ай бұрын

Yeah, he said he's just going to visit peoples homes and lock them in with him until they finish his interview.

@Pablo360able

Ай бұрын

Over 1,000? Pretty sure you're lowballing it.

@Lacie9

Ай бұрын

​@@Pablo360ableit is technically over 1000

@everettw.9610

Ай бұрын

Gotta be at least 5

Taking a maximalist approach, I consider the infinite regress of nested wario ware games to be mainline mario games (canon). But is it a countable infinity?

By that definition of "video game" an ebook would also be considered a video game, which is not true. As well as the possibilities of applications like calenders or calculators if a person finds it "entertaining." I feel like you can come up with a more comprehensive and accurate definition than just screen + touch + fun = video game.

@quantumwillow2734

17 күн бұрын

mario calculator is very arguably a video game, and visual novels are often described as ebooks. and besides that, why do you automatically assume ebooks and calendars and calculators aren't video games? if someone interacts with them the same way they do a video game, and they have the same level of enjoyment as a video game, what makes it not a video game?

@elodiekat

16 күн бұрын

​@@quantumwillow2734I mean, is "video game" a status neutral category or do you think it's above/below the adjacent or overlapping ebook and visual novel categories? do instances of works that people agree are both video games which and ebooks prove that all ebooks must be video games? is the definition of a category also an accurate description of every instance of its contents, or do shades of prototypicality and gradations of category-type-ness come into play? also, I don't think a calculator is a type of game, under most circumstances. books can contain or be games in various ways, whether video or not, but calculators rarely have gameplay

halfway through and i'm obsessed with how this mario video has turned into socrates holding up a plucked chicken and proclaiming "BEHOLD, A MAN"

@m__y-t-s

Ай бұрын

He's cold without his feathers. Knit him a sweater.

@brasilballs

Ай бұрын

wasn't that diogenes

@Duiker36

Ай бұрын

Diogenes. But yes.

@mrbartinio

Ай бұрын

​@@m__y-t-sWho are you? A teacher?

@m__y-t-s

Ай бұрын

@@mrbartinio I am a teacher.

"Is _The Actual, True Kingdom Hearts Play Order_ part of the _how many Super Mario games are there?_ series?"

@austinfletchermusic

Ай бұрын

... spiritual successor? But now that another video has come out, maybe it's just a "hmSMgat?"-like?? Are there any other videos exploring this topic (like for Zelda games, or mainline Ace Attorney games, or something??)

@chainswordcs

Ай бұрын

​@@austinfletchermusicthat one episode of Unraveled (by Polygon. i forget the guy's name) where he talks about the true zelda timeline and gets into obscure titles is similar

@KWBR1123

Ай бұрын

@@chainswordcs Brian David Gilbert is the name you're looking for

@cycloneabsol9405

Ай бұрын

Now I need a Jan Misali/Miss Gamerchamp Crossover

@windy4566

Ай бұрын

Yes. This now includes 4 because the upcoming trailer debuting next week at SGF has Mario in it for approximately 0.5 seconds (source: trust me guys)

Diogenes, holding up a sweater: "Behold! A Super Mario game!"

I maintain that any game with a Super Mushroom which Mario can eat it and grow bigger counts as a Super Mario game

@justapickedminfan

Ай бұрын

So Super Mario 64 DS is a Super Mario game, but the original isn't?

@marcelohendler5951

27 күн бұрын

Mario kart wii and super smash bros?

@DefinitivNichtSascha

27 күн бұрын

None of the games' text ever states that Mario eats the Super Mushroom he comes in contact with. As such, you would need to read the paratext for each game and decide by that, and I'm sure not every one does so.

@jlco

23 күн бұрын

So _Super Smash Bros.: Brawl_ but not _Super Mario Odyssey_ or _Super Mario 64?_ _Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury_ but not _Super Mario Galaxy?_ It's actually a fairly common take (excluding stuff like Smash Bros.) but I am inclined to disagree.

Another angle to the Bowser's Fury debate: In the bottom left of the title screen of Super Mario 3D World, there is a little icon with a pixelated Luigi on it that appears after you beat the game. If you click on the icon, you can play Luigi Bros., a reskinned port of NES Mario Bros. where both characters are Luigi. There is no version of the game that does not have this. So, if Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury isn't a distinct Super Mario game because you have to buy a pre-existing game along with the new content, then you can technically also argue that Super Mario 3D World isn't a distinct Super Mario game because you have to buy it bundled with a Mario Bros. port.

@abraveastronaut

Ай бұрын

You are an agent of chaos and I love it.

@fortecyveria769

Ай бұрын

So THAT'S why that one guy said it's not a Mario game

@comparatorclock

Ай бұрын

Wait wait wait, the 2 weegees thing wasn't just a Mario galaxy quirk? Are there 3 Mario bros, via 2 Luigis?? Does Luigi have a permanent clone?? Like Beth and Space Beth?? And for that matter, what about Gooigi?? Just how many Luigis are there??

@isaacthered

Ай бұрын

@@comparatorclock just wait until you hear about Mario & Luigi: Dream Team

honestly super refreshing to see someone read statistics and actually know what they mean online, far far too often people only take the numbers and ignore any outside factors to draw their conclusions

I’m surprised the metric of sales never came up even once. It’s an odd metric, sure, but Disney’s official Disney Princesses list uses box office sales of the princess’s movie as one of the factors determining if she is part of the official list. This can rule out most edge cases that the other linguist definitions didn’t think about. If sales is too weird of a metric for you, why not copies made at first release? Of course, neither of these are good on their own, but they can overlap for good use. Ex: a video game (the definition we used earlier, but include that the software is the fun itself) is part of the Super Mario series if it’s a platformer or a platformer game with elements from other genres where Mario is a playable character, its developed by Nintendo, has “Mario” in the title, and the game sold X many copies in its first year.

@user-up8kr9cj1s

7 күн бұрын

this does get rid of the wiredest egde case and the only problem i see is super smash bros brawl

the reason cranky kong is really old and mario isnt is because mario has a crippling addiction to 1-up mushroom, of which's side effects include benjaman buttons disease

I want nothing more than a voice clip of the person who submitted "I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT F***ING SWEATERS JAN MISALI" yelling that line for my personal soundboard exclusively populated by people saying things that no-one else has any context for.

@roryschussler

29 күн бұрын

Same energy as ITYSL's "I can't know how to hear any more questions about tables!"

“You can’t analyze paratext the same way you analyze text without jumping on it first to remove the wings” OMG

@PrettyNeatArt

Ай бұрын

That’s the silliest and dorkiest way to check if anyone is still paying attention an hour and a half into this video. It’s also exactly what I think whenever a word has that prefix lol!

I'm with that one guy. Just seeing the sweater game makes me want to include it as mainline because wow. I hearby consider it canon that like Peach made Mario a sweater of his theatrics and teaches people how to do so like her as volunteer work.

@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036

27 күн бұрын

That's actually a really cute headcanon and I miiiight steal it lol

Hypothetically, since the knitting part of super Mario sweater doesn’t require any game input (it’s not like there’s a peripheral that tracks your knitting or anything) you could hypothetically just look at one of the knitting diagrams and then move onto the next game without doing anything

56:08 Shoutout to that singular surveyee who had no idea what Paper Mario: Sticker Star is.

@tkayube

Ай бұрын

That surveyor is also the person who writes Super Mario-kun apparently

@chainswordcs

Ай бұрын

so innocent and naive... so young and happy...

@iantaakalla8180

Ай бұрын

I wonder if there was a person who snidely classified Sticker Star as “part of the Super Mario series” because they thought it cribbed far too much from the Super Mario series to be called a Paper Mario game.

@sirensong3159

Ай бұрын

i am jealous of that person

@TicTacToeCraft

Ай бұрын

Or New Super Luigi U

As someone who partook in that survey, you stating "instead of 54, I gave 58" I had a flashback and was like "that did not feel like just 4 added ones" and then was subsequently floored when you added 300 to that... Now I'm considering how much time I have on my hands, I don't even remember what I was doing while taking the survey...

@Duiker36

Ай бұрын

I hope you at least drank some water.

@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036

27 күн бұрын

I was wasting an entire period in art when I took it. I barely managed to finish it before the bell rang

1:04:57 I love how the version with Yoshi theming has a higher percentage of people answering with 'no' than the version without anything Mario related in it

Really appreciated your statistical analysis of survey results. Refreshing to hear someone properly acknowledge lurking variables in a data set, and not just using average as the end-all of statistics.

When presented with the question "What even is canon for Super Mario?" I answer by choosing to disbelief in homophones, and answering "Something that fires a Bullet Bill".

@DallinBackstrom

Ай бұрын

underated joke

@bigfanofsb653

Ай бұрын

But are those canons? In the Mario Maker games they are called bullet bill blasters not canons. Not to mention bullet bills are based on bullets which typically come out of guns not canons. Canonballs typically come out of canons and that is true in the mario series where canon looking objects fire metal balls which can be assumed to be canonballs. But your definition excludes those canon for some reason.

@meee_5155

Ай бұрын

Bullet bills come out of mortars not cannons

@TymberJ

Ай бұрын

@@bigfanofsb653 All incredibly valid, but most importantly, thank you for "Canonballs".

- Mentions you like Rhythm Heaven - Now begs for a survey of how many *explicitly different* Rhythm Heaven minigames there are.

@TownDarling

Ай бұрын

this is unfortunately a lot more cut and dry than mario, mostly because sequels are designated as such. i get the idea that the game karate man has multiple incarnations all called karate man (which carries to a few other examples), but i think the only place where it gets difficult is the megamix prequels, all of which i would not classify as separate games. imo this comes down to whether a game has a different title and gameplay from its… wait…samurai slice

@lancesmith8298

Ай бұрын

When jan Misali is all too happy to outright state “nobody would finish an entire survey of WarioWare micro games”, you and I both understand that’s gotta be the next big thing, right? >But all microgames, by definition, in the text of WarioWare as a whole, are in the WarioWare series. Then how do you explain all the cross-pollination of Rhythm Heaven and WarioWare? Within smaller games inside of a bigger package, no less? >Wario did not make them. 1, God didn’t write the NIV translation of the Bible either, and 2, we have not conclusively disproven Wario did not produce Rhythm Heaven in its canon.

@PossiblyCoolAnimations

Ай бұрын

⁠@@TownDarlingbuilt to scale as well

@TownDarling

Ай бұрын

@@PossiblyCoolAnimations you can’t do this to me

@dis4sterpi3ce_

Ай бұрын

@@lancesmith8298 god didn’t write any of the bible, he’s a fictional character

Thank you so much for validating my irrational level of irritation with how Nintendo insists on referring to the games as "the game". The game's title is a proper noun. It's not technically ungrammatical to say "the Super Mario Bros. Wonder game", but it's very unnatural sounding. Like saying "I can't wait to read the War and Peace book tonight". It's a subtle thing that, in my opinion, makes the ads feel more corporate. It's less "get excited to experience the work titled X" and more "Valued revenue node, please look forward to exchanging your region's accepted currency for the latest entertainment product SKU."

1:23:10 I love whenever someone says this or some variation of it. Slay the Spire is a video game up until I open it on my laptop. Minecraft Java? Bedrock? Education? Obviously video games. Minecraft Pocket Edition? Don't be ridiculous. All the final fantasy games and ace attorney games? Not games when they're on my phone. That's not even getting into games that were simultaneously developed for PC, Consoles and Mobile at the same time. Is the game I'm playing on the Playstation 5 not a video game because I could play it on my phone?

"There have been so many Warioware Microgames based specifically on the NES game Super Mario Bros. that they collectively add up to well over a hundredth of a milligame." this is an amazing sentence

dear lord a 2 hour jan misali video goodbye productivity

@dubbie7879

Ай бұрын

I didn't notice the two hour runtime until after seeing this comment...

@Mewtic2

Ай бұрын

Vids like these are meant to be listened to while doing something productive

@CaedmonOS

Ай бұрын

Goodbye sleep

@mawillix2018

Ай бұрын

I agree with@@Mewtic2because I tend to look for long videos like this for when I'm working. (I'm a programmer, and it's very very boring unless I'm listening to something.)

@prof.reuniclus21

Ай бұрын

@@Mewtic2no. i will not be sleeping.

The footage compilation at the end of the video made me emotional. I have loved these games so much.

The actual biggest plot point from Video 1 to Video 2 is jan Misali moving to Cohost. Incredibly large W Thank you so much for taking the time to dedicate yourself to this project in such a meticulous way! I'm gonna keep a lot of this in mind for any research projects I do myself in the future, and/or just spend the rest of my life thinking about how Vs. Super Mario Bros. is actually SMB 1.5

Shoutout to my favourite Mario games; Bros, Wario Faces Consequences for his Actions, 7 Grand Dad, the State of Delaware, and of course, I am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater.

@thezipcreator

Ай бұрын

don't forget the concept of Supersymmetry

@strangejune

Ай бұрын

and the jan Misali video 'how many Super Mario games are there NOW?'

@Seloliva1015

Ай бұрын

The best part of that title is how confident it is about being a teacher

@Hewer86

Ай бұрын

​@@Seloliva1015actually titles alone do not give enough information, hence there is no consensus as to whether it is a mainline teacher or not

@numberhaver7795

Ай бұрын

You also forgot Skylanders: Superchargers

1:23:24 I love how the second response seems to work under the assumption that every single other game in the franchise was created just out of _sheer love for the arts_ and that the developers had *no expectations of getting paid at the end of the day.*

This was the most comprehensive simultaneous answer and non-answer I have ever watched in my life. Thank you.

I'd like to add something regarding explanation three to resolve the contradiction posed by the syllogism regarding Mario not being Jumpman: Donkey Kong III can be both Cranky Kong's grandson AND not be Donkey Kong Jr.s son. If we assume that Cranky Kong has an older son besides Donkey Kong Jr., and that that son is Donkey Kong III's father, it is within the realm of possibility that Donkey Kong III is older than his uncle Donkey Kong Jr. (If this seems illogical to you, then picture the following scenario: Adam has a son named Bob when he is 15, and Bob has a son named Clyde when he is 15 and Adam is 30. Adam then has another son named Dave when he is 40, Bob is 25, and Clyde is 10. The newborn Dave would then be the uncle of 10-year-old Clyde.) So in the end, you don't even need ignore the statement that Cranky Kong is Donkey Kong's grandfather, if you just make this assumption instead.

As a linguistics student, this video really captures what linguistics is about as opposed to what people think it’s about. Because this whole video is an exercise in semantics, I think applying some concepts from the field would be helpful. A particular word can be thought of as having a domain, similar to a Venn diagram with fuzzy boundaries that either contain or excludes things that the word can refer to. Items can be closer to or further away from the center of the domain. Items in the center are the things typically thought of when considering the word in a vacuum and are called prototypes. They also have the most features associated with the word, or stereotypes. For example, think of a bird. What makes it a bird? Feathers? A beak? Wings? The ability to fly? While the prototype for “bird” in your ming might be something like a sparrow, we still consider penguins and ostriches to be birds even though they don’t have all of the stereotypes of birdness. While I Am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater is not a prototypical video game-it’s definitely not the first thing you’d think of while hearing the word-as jan Misali argues it does feature many of the stereotypes and is probably right on the fuzzy boundary of “video game”’s domain for me.

@Duiker36

Ай бұрын

A quesadilla is obviously a burrito, though.

@kennethray8473

Ай бұрын

@@Duiker36 While I’m technically supposed to say, “Wow, what an interesting difference between your variety of English and mine!” I’m mostly concerned about what kind of quesadillas you’re making. 😅

@captainch6182

Ай бұрын

It sounds like a lot of this also comes down to the philosophical debate over realism vs nominalism and essentialism vs anti-essentialism

@kevincsellak296

Ай бұрын

As a mathematics student, "fuzzy Venn diagram with boundaries somewhere" reminds me way too much of the separation axioms for topological spaces. (The list and images here describe them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_axiom#Preliminary_definitions.) Specifically, the ideas of "separating by neighborhoods" and "separating by a continuous function" correspond exactly to that fuzzy Venn diagram idea. You've got some set of meanings that you believe a given word definitely does refer to and a set of meanings you believe the word definitely doesn't refer to. Defining a continuous function separating those two sets of meanings is like describing how fuzzy the Venn diagram is at every point, such that the two sets of meanings are unambiguously respectively part of the domain of the word, and not part of the domain of the word. Where linguistics then looks at what you could use this idea of a "fuzzy domain" for in the field of semantics by using specific fuzzy domains when analyzing words, mathematics instead looks at how you can use the concept to describe how "natural", in a sense, abstractions of 1d, 2d, 3d, etc. spaces are by considering whether or not it's possible to distinguish various kinds of sets from one another using such fuzzy domains. Funny how those two concepts are vaguely related.

@kevinwells9751

29 күн бұрын

I don't think "I Am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater" really contains any of the features of a video game though. It's far closer to a digital Lego instruction book than it is to any video game. You input the things you want to know and it tells you things. If I look up online instructions of how to build a Lego set and then I put that set together does that make it a video game? Surely not.

The Super Mario series consists of the video games developed by Nintendo for Nintendo consoles that have 'I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater' in the title, excluding RPGs, party games, Mario Kart, sports games, and reissues of previously released Super Mario's.

@scarlett_greenrose4807

Ай бұрын

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@champion_ofcloud-var

Ай бұрын

lets gooo

@scarlett_greenrose4807

Ай бұрын

Oh, fuck I'm so sorry, I fell asleep

@champion_ofcloud-var

Ай бұрын

@@scarlett_greenrose4807 but its I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater

@usernametaken017

Ай бұрын

There is exactly 2 super mario games. I am not saying which one is the second one

Slowly realizing the way the chapters were “numbered” was incredible

Is there anything to the idea that part of the "definition" to mainline Mario games includes how much of a financial success they were?

@user-up8kr9cj1s

7 күн бұрын

yes as way to get rid of really wired games like sweater and pinball land but leaving it like that forces you to include minecarft, the smash bros and mairo karts the super mario bros movie and so much more

Obsessed with the person who included every game except 3d world

@B0ssguy

Ай бұрын

i was thinking he should've done every game except super mario bros (nes) but randomly picking 3d world as the only game that isn't a mainline game is just so funny

@SeanLaMontagne

Ай бұрын

Yeah fuck 3D World

@windy4566

Ай бұрын

“FUCK 3D world in particular”

@skep2923

Ай бұрын

Lotta people still have the grudge from when that game came out. It got a frosty reception on release because at the time the Wii U was floundering, it wasn’t really the next mainline 3D Mario game, and there had just been so much Mario during the Wii, DS, and 3DS lifespans.

@Seloliva1015

Ай бұрын

He had to include I am a Teacher: Super mario Sweater, and that is dedication right there

Super Mario 3 is canon, it's just from back when you could still see the ropes. The Mario franchise is about a group of friends who play tennis, go go-karting together, play giant board games, and stage elaborate kidnapping-based roleplay scenarios. Super Mario Wonder is their highest production value effort yet.

@TheRealVenusian

Ай бұрын

the idea that the Mario cast of characters is basically like Starkid is a wonderful one, thank you

@faxmine

Ай бұрын

This is one of my favorites.

@MarsofAritia

Ай бұрын

didn't miyamoto himself say they are pretty much a theatre troupe?

@comparatorclock

Ай бұрын

I now need a fanfic based off this 😂😂😂

45:30 You mean to tell me Super Lesbian Animal RPG is a Mario game?

Thank you for including subtitles!! Long videos usually don't have them so this made me very happy.

-came here to learn more about what people counted as a super mario game -left learning what to expect when conducting an online survey.

So, I once took a full college class about "games" and "play" and what makes a game distinct from a toy or other experience. When responding to this survey, the logic I had was that programs like Mario Paint (and, yes, Super Mario Sweater) aren't games, they're a different form of interactive digital entertainment. By the same logic, you can make a coherent argument that Minecraft isn't a game either - it's a digital toy. And you know what? I wouldn't disagree with that.

@Hewer86

Ай бұрын

What an agent of chaos you are

@iwest6256

Ай бұрын

I’m curious, how exactly would you justify Minecraft as not being a video game? Minecraft creative mode I can see the argument for, but the default survival experience of Minecraft has goals, progression, failure conditions, and just gameplay mechanics in general. Dungeons and Dragons in its entirety is arguably an even more open-ended experience than Minecraft, since without input from a DM it’s just a bunch of mechanics without structure, but I don’t think anyone would argue that it isn’t a game.

@elizabethb4168

Ай бұрын

That sounds like a super interesting class

@KaneYork

Ай бұрын

In addition to being a digital toy that includes a game, Minecraft is also a game engine that allows game creators to make and release games inside of it.

@Hewer86

Ай бұрын

@@KaneYork Super Mario Maker

One conclusion i draw from this video is that the super mario franchise is less a list and more a flowchart or like, a family tree, where sometimes you have a game that counts as part of the franchise but it spawns a new branch on the tree where it kinda splits off and turns into a different series of video games. That said it also shows me that there is no concrete solid definition of what a super mario game is, and it genuinely just depends on who we're talking about and what their opinions on several different things are.

I'd argue that video game should break down as "an interactive piece of entertainment software wth a clearly defined win or lose condition".

@pmintertek

10 күн бұрын

So what about Minecraft before survival mode was added (yes, it a really old version but still)?