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How Many Overtimes Should NASCAR Allow?

The Nashville Superspeedway saw a NASCAR Cup Series record of 5 Overtime attempts to end the event. With it we are once again seeing a debate in 2024 that was prevalent in 2004 and even before. The question of how races should end. So, how many Overtimes should NASCAR allow?
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  • @TheIceberg
    @TheIcebergАй бұрын

    How many attempts at OT do you think NASCAR should allow?

  • @JohnYenchick

    @JohnYenchick

    Ай бұрын

    Unlimited!!!

  • @ericmarchesini4883

    @ericmarchesini4883

    Ай бұрын

    I’d prefer 0 but if we have to have an overtime, I would limit to only 1 attempt

  • @twister1296

    @twister1296

    Ай бұрын

    3-5

  • @chasebriscoefan14

    @chasebriscoefan14

    Ай бұрын

    3

  • @joshuapboston1999

    @joshuapboston1999

    Ай бұрын

    Zero. I believe that if we get a caution within five laps to go, we race back to the line and finish at the advertised distance. Better to have the race finish under yellow than have absolute chaos making NASCAR an embarrassment to motorsports.

  • @MarcoEvens
    @MarcoEvensАй бұрын

    I don’t understand why we’re asking about this This is the first time I’ve seen the unlimited OT option has really played a factor. At least in a while. And it eliminates or darn near eliminates the possibility of people manipulating the race. (I.E. Kevin Harvick and Talladega in 2015) I say we keep it as is. And at the end of the day, NASCAR will do whatever they want to do anyway

  • @derrondixon8665
    @derrondixon8665Ай бұрын

    The thing about limiting it is the fans will probably get mad, and it will cause some major drama. But also note, we rarely see more than 2 overtime’s, and also note this is the FIRST time we’ve seen this, the first time. So basically I would keep it unlimited so there isn’t any drama at all, and because we usually don’t see more than 2.

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    Ай бұрын

    Keeping it unlimited causes more drama

  • @Me181

    @Me181

    Ай бұрын

    Keep it unlimited it's so much fun

  • @JGR4LIFE20

    @JGR4LIFE20

    Ай бұрын

    I have one thing to say Fuck those fans

  • @ZPaul_

    @ZPaul_

    Ай бұрын

    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT In other words disregard the teams and drivers in the name of “entertainment”

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    Ай бұрын

    @@ZPaul_ not even entertaining anyway. Not a care for drivers’ safety and the finances of teams from damages. NASCAR is supposed to be a professional stock car series, not a demo derby

  • @DG-tt1gl
    @DG-tt1glАй бұрын

    It is a one-off race. Changing anything would be a knee-jerk reaction.

  • @weirdfan88
    @weirdfan88Ай бұрын

    Whatever happens the fans will still complain.

  • Ай бұрын

    Or we won't go or watch, now I only listen to the anthem, see how bad and stupid they are, then pop back in the last 5 laps.

  • @Crussell04
    @Crussell04Ай бұрын

    How about no overtime. End the race after the final lap regardless of the situation.

  • @chrisguardiano6143
    @chrisguardiano6143Ай бұрын

    In my view NASCAR needs to get rid of OT entirely and follow both Indycar & F1 in terms of races being timed. I really like the 2 hour time limit Indycar uses on road courses because it makes the races short & full of action. More importantly once the race reaches the end of the 2 hours, that is it regardless if the race ends under yellow. NASCAR would really benefit from having timed races because the races would be short, full of action & easily watchable from a TV perspective. This is also one of the main reasons why F1 has surged in popularity in the US in recent years because their races are timed. Lastly NASCAR already does this in a way since they own IMSA & the majority of IMSA races are timed.

  • @racingjunkie27
    @racingjunkie27Ай бұрын

    0. A Nascar race should finish within the said race distance, if it's 400 miles then the race should be finished when the the race leader reaches 400 miles, not 404 or 410. Any late race caution should not extend the race beyond that, otherwise it's gimmick just like Nascar playoff.

  • @cpttankerjoe
    @cpttankerjoeАй бұрын

    While I thought 5 Restarts were a bit much, to say that the GWC attempts ruined the race is ludicrous. The race tbh wasn’t that eventful UNTIL the GWC finishes. And I hated them this race because my picks ended up not winning. It’s fine the way it is.

  • @SortaNonymous
    @SortaNonymousАй бұрын

    I wouldn't prefer the scheduled dustance option, but I'd like to mention that if the yellow happens with more than a couple of laps left, they could quickly red flag it and have a quick shootout. NASCAR themselves did it occasionally in the past (including the '02 Daytona 500), and IndyCar has done it to this day including in Indy 500s lately. (I guess in response to people not liking the 2020 race ending under yellow.)

  • @Joey_Amirault
    @Joey_AmiraultАй бұрын

    I think races should end at the scheduled distance, but there should be a rule for when it can be restarted vs end under caution. I think if there’s more then 3-5 laps to go, the race should be red flagged and have a 1-2 lap dash. Anything less than that, the race can end under caution.

  • @TheDouble0NO
    @TheDouble0NOАй бұрын

    Keep them unlimited, but make them restart single file if they still cant solve the race after 3 attemps. Maybe even 1 or 2. Because after a while the race devolves into a wreckfest and tears up cars unnecessarily.

  • @S.K.R.E.Inc.
    @S.K.R.E.Inc.Ай бұрын

    You limit it, you get Kevin Harvick You leave it as is, we get this You eliminate it and end under yellow, you get angry Chase Elliott fans throwing stuff at Kyle Larson, Denny Hamlin, or Ryan Blaney simply because they were ahead

  • @Thando2010

    @Thando2010

    Ай бұрын

    So basically all the options would cause problems either way.

  • @omerbalikci3565

    @omerbalikci3565

    Ай бұрын

    @@Thando2010 Nascar fans in a nutshell

  • @valutaatoaofunknownelement197

    @valutaatoaofunknownelement197

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Thando2010And a Big One under the right conditions.

  • @Thando2010

    @Thando2010

    Ай бұрын

    @@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 oh yah and that too

  • @Thando2010

    @Thando2010

    Ай бұрын

    Also idk why but i have a feeling that on one of these overtimes (if this happens at the bigger ovals) a car is either gonna do a Rusty Wallace impression or go flying into the catchfence.

  • @sterlingjohnson5147
    @sterlingjohnson5147Ай бұрын

    0. The correct answer is 0. Nascar is a distance race. If it's only about the competitive finish, make the race 1 lap.

  • @Takingyoutojail

    @Takingyoutojail

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry but I completely disagree with this Overtime definitely has a place in NASCAR

  • @Milton_Valenzuela
    @Milton_ValenzuelaАй бұрын

    Scheduled distance would cure NASCAR fans from sh*tshow syndrome

  • @polycube868

    @polycube868

    Ай бұрын

    Problem is a lot of young fans think races are supposed to devolve into a shitshow and not just be a normal race.

  • @nicholasking7120
    @nicholasking7120Ай бұрын

    Unlimited. That’s a big outlier. Won’t happen again for a very long time.

  • @tylerhernandez5234

    @tylerhernandez5234

    Ай бұрын

    I bet we get 4 at Daytona later this year, and Atlanta and Talladaga will probably use up 3 OTs due to playoff implications

  • @imrpovking845

    @imrpovking845

    Ай бұрын

    Forgot the trucks race at Phoenix last year. Had a lot of OTs and was just as messy.

  • @Jerm209
    @Jerm209Ай бұрын

    That was a blast to watch. Its the first time thats happened. This isn't some crazy problem that needs to be dealt with lol.

  • @steveo5712
    @steveo5712Ай бұрын

    Brother, I don't think we need to limit this. I don't think it's an officiating issue. There must be a change to the current culture in the garage. There is no respect. I think at this point, the owners need to step in and tell their drivers to get their acts together.

  • @Carsboy95
    @Carsboy95Ай бұрын

    In my opinion, we should do schedules distance. No OT’S, just race the advertised amount of laps.

  • @since1961

    @since1961

    Ай бұрын

    Time not distance for TV?

  • @minenhledlamini334
    @minenhledlamini334Ай бұрын

    Scheduled distance, that’s the way it was and the way it is literally everywhere else in motorsports

  • @julianfox6548
    @julianfox6548Ай бұрын

    Unlimited. This was just a rare event. Harvicks move on Talladega on the third try to save his ass, completely destroys this argument

  • @D4nkfury
    @D4nkfuryАй бұрын

    This isnt gonna happen every week. I think it’s fine the way it is. Bugs me that the second we have multiple OTs people immediate start freaking out over it. Yea 5 was a lot, but this was just a weird ending of a race. Shit happens sometimes

  • @thatpaintschemeguy8

    @thatpaintschemeguy8

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @D4nkfury

    @D4nkfury

    Ай бұрын

    Plus, if you limit it, you end up with 2015 Talladega again

  • @harpenau17

    @harpenau17

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed 100%

  • @thatpaintschemeguy8
    @thatpaintschemeguy8Ай бұрын

    I think this is just another example of fans overreacting if NASCAR changes it they'll just complain about that to its a cycle

  • @codileger4876
    @codileger4876Ай бұрын

    The problem with limiting is you get the Kevin Harvick Talladega scenario. Just race the advertised distance and call it a day. Almost every time a race goes to overtime the person leading has not won the race

  • @S.K.R.E.Inc.

    @S.K.R.E.Inc.

    Ай бұрын

    They last time a race went the scheduled distance Jeff Gordon was pelted with stuff by THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE at Talladega

  • @Denielle-V

    @Denielle-V

    Ай бұрын

    Harvick had mechanical issues in that race, not a lack of fuel.

  • @IrishmanGFS

    @IrishmanGFS

    Ай бұрын

    @@S.K.R.E.Inc. Because everyone and their nephson were stupid

  • @ChristopherColburn
    @ChristopherColburnАй бұрын

    As long as it stays a rare occurrence keep it. You can’t say it isn’t exciting. People want strategy and now they complain.

  • @Rippingthewall

    @Rippingthewall

    Ай бұрын

    this☝️

  • @Christoph5782
    @Christoph5782Ай бұрын

    Safety Cars breed Safety Cars. If we want to decide a race winner and/or a season champion by the best driver and team combo, then we stop at scheduled distance. If we wanna play bumper cars and decide a champion like it was done in the Wild West, then have unlimited overtimes And if we want complete insanity, how about at the start of every overtime we role a 6 sided die. If its a 1, we go racing as normal. If its a 2, every driver must change all 4 tyres. If its a 3, we do a standing start. If its a 4 we do the final two laps backwards. If its a 5, we run sprinklers to wet the entire track on any track. If it’s a 6, the winner of the race is whoever crosses the finish line in 10th

  • @Ghost29303
    @Ghost29303Ай бұрын

    We have an overtime line . It's called the start/finish line .

  • @Eagleracer38x
    @Eagleracer38xАй бұрын

    ZERO overtimes, period... But, I'm an very old school 80's fan. I stopped watching NASCAR the year the "The Chase" started. Came back last year to watch Kevin's "last lap tour". It stopped being a race, just an the WWE on the race track. If no one makes a basket for the whole 4th quarter, that don't mean that the game going to keep going until someone does make a basket.

  • @Tomsbananacakes
    @TomsbananacakesАй бұрын

    What they really need to do is go back to single file restarts for overtime. The biggest problem here is having too many cars bunched up together and that's what causes wreck after wreck after wreck.

  • @RustyMitts
    @RustyMittsАй бұрын

    I enjoyed the finish of Nashville. Cautions breed Cautions, and the fact that there were so many pit strategies going into the overtime restarts made it that the turn of events was going to happen. I don't watch the TV broadcast, I listen to the broadcast on the app and being able to see stats of all the drivers live, as soon as the 2 spun out it was going to get crazy. My main thing is that the chaos of the ending of this race is good every once in a while. Obviously, I don't want a wreckfest every week, but a race finish like this is entertaining to me.

  • @C-Rad95

    @C-Rad95

    Ай бұрын

    The finish at Nashville isn't something to flex about, it's embarrassing & pathetic that we needed 40 minutes to run only 2 laps (but I guess DARFS gonna DARF)

  • @cheetahyoda

    @cheetahyoda

    Ай бұрын

    @@C-Rad95 "if you dont like that kinda racing, dont even watch"

  • @C-Rad95

    @C-Rad95

    Ай бұрын

    @cheetahyoda lmao ok then, there are other Nascar series outside of Cup, Xfinity & Trucks to watch (ARCA, Modifieds, Canada Series, Mexico Series, Euro Series, Brazil Tour) along with IndyCar, IMSA & MotoGP so that insult doesn't hurt as much as you think (except you're contributing to a problem that won't be evident until September (and for this problem, you can't pull the NFL/Football excuse card forever) & I'll leave it at that for you to use your imagination)

  • @C-Rad95

    @C-Rad95

    Ай бұрын

    @cheetahyoda besides, I already know that Nascar ain't getting rid of GWC'S after 20 years (they didn't get rid of it after Summer Daytona 2015 when Austin Dillon went into the fence, Fall Dega 2015 or after the 2020 Daytona 500 when Ryan Newman nearly died. What makes you think a 5 OT shitshow will be any different?). If Nascar is gonna change anything to the GWC rule, it will most likely be making it like ARCA where the race has to finish under green no matter what (aka the 2022 all-star race finish that nearly cost Blaney the win)

  • @C-Rad95

    @C-Rad95

    Ай бұрын

    @cheetahyoda plus Nascar never changes anything in the sport until either someone dies or gets badly injured because that's the only time Nascar ever changes anything since that is "The Nascar Way"

  • @tylerhernandez5234
    @tylerhernandez5234Ай бұрын

    Call me crazy, but, we limit the attempts to 3, however. After the 3rd attempt, we use the overtime line, but the line is at the 75% maker on the track so theres still a chance to get the race finished. Only one attempt to get to the overtime line, gives 4 attempts, and still a chance to finish the race if we need it. Which most the times hopefully we only need 2 OTs

  • @jacobgalipeau6872

    @jacobgalipeau6872

    Ай бұрын

    This is actually a good hybrid idea

  • @DepravedCoTApologist
    @DepravedCoTApologistАй бұрын

    I'm firmly in the 1 OT attmpt camp, and I have been before this stupid race. If the best drivers in the country can't behave themselves for one restart, then that's on them for being sloppy. Also, I hate calling it overtime. Can we please bring back Green-White-Checkered? It sounded way better for a racing series

  • @austinemms9772
    @austinemms9772Ай бұрын

    They should return to the “Three Strikes” system. It would be good for saving money if there are multiple wrecks and time constraints if the race runs long due to the cautions.

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    Ай бұрын

    Make it a 1 and done to save even more money and time

  • @NASCARFAN93100
    @NASCARFAN93100Ай бұрын

    1 attempt is enough because Unlimited attempts at Overtime are an absolute buzzkill and sad that it took 5 OTs to finish the race yesterday

  • @Raldo5324
    @Raldo5324Ай бұрын

    1 Green White Checkered attempt with a single file restart. This will help limit the chaos and give a better chance at a green flag finish.

  • @naparacingfan9275
    @naparacingfan9275Ай бұрын

    They're should be 0 and scheduled distance but I'm ok with 1 OT.

  • @snowtrooper8986
    @snowtrooper8986Ай бұрын

    I think 3 overtimes is actually a good system, NASCAR has those long finishes that keeps popularity and teams won’t lose *as much* money as they would with 5, it’s a win win

  • @acedelta12
    @acedelta12Ай бұрын

    There was another video that mentioned this, but it's worth bringing up here. In an Xfinity race, at 5 PM with 3 to go, Elliott Sadler was spun to put the race into overtime. By 5 'till 6 he was BATTLING FOR THE LEAD. It took them an hour to run the final laps because of unlimited overtime attempts.

  • @crazybut6641
    @crazybut6641Ай бұрын

    The current point system was the biggest factor to that finish. There was way to many drivers in that points don’t matter mindset risking it staying out low on fuel. Limiting the OT attempts would just lead to more controversy because we know nascar has a hard time being consistent.

  • @johnhenryNC
    @johnhenryNCАй бұрын

    I favor two overtimes. 1st overtime: Green, White, Checkered. If it goes to a 2nd overtime, have a one lap shootout: Green/White, Checkered. 👍🏁

  • @runrafarunthebestintheworld

    @runrafarunthebestintheworld

    Ай бұрын

    Yep system fixed.

  • @ChazTheFloofer
    @ChazTheFlooferАй бұрын

    One race with tons of overtimes and here we go with fans wanting NASCAR to change their rules again. 🙄

  • @MarvelMTs
    @MarvelMTsАй бұрын

    I think just 3 attempts, no more. Like the “3 Strikes, You’re Out” rule/lyric

  • @quentinanderson8456
    @quentinanderson8456Ай бұрын

    I agree it should be 3. This race was kind of an anomaly and it usually only takes them 1 or 2 restarts even at places like Daytona or Dega. 3 max we would still get a green flag finish 95+% of the time but would hopefully eliminate the dumpster fire we saw yesterday.

  • @kyledorrell2013
    @kyledorrell2013Ай бұрын

    Unlimited restarts are fine this is such a stupid argument we're having.

  • @brockconsalo1838

    @brockconsalo1838

    Ай бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. All these KZreadrs are having this stupid argument.

  • @nicholassbardella6045

    @nicholassbardella6045

    Ай бұрын

    People would say the same thing about the NFL, yet they can tie too

  • @chardoma-lee5744

    @chardoma-lee5744

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @chardoma-lee5744

    @chardoma-lee5744

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@nicholassbardella6045only regular, playoffs are must wins

  • @gojiman1649

    @gojiman1649

    Ай бұрын

    I agree, I noticed the only people talking about this are KZreadrs and social media influencers. This is such an oddity that this doesn't really matter

  • @Ender_Challenge
    @Ender_ChallengeАй бұрын

    A friend of mine suggested they do overtime in terms of miles and not laps. Let's say we have only 1 overtime at every track but its 5 miles. So at Daytona it'll be 2 laps, Bristol it'll be 10 laps, Charlotte it'll be 7 or 8 laps. You can still have a caution and a restart during some of these tracks but you're not extending more than you already have. Scenario would be at Bristol, 3 laps to go caution, restart the race with 10 go go, caution with 7 to go, restart at 3 to go, caution with 2 to go, ends race under yellow.

  • @whalesequence
    @whalesequenceАй бұрын

    One overtime was great. I wouldn't be stuck watching for an extra hour after the race should've ended.

  • @gsmoke2007
    @gsmoke2007Ай бұрын

    As many as it takes. And I say that even though I don’t care for the winner.

  • @DKrueger1994
    @DKrueger1994Ай бұрын

    Three max, but don't do the one GWC overtime Remember - Fall Talladega 2015 race proved that was broken

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

    Ай бұрын

    It wasn’t the 1 attempt rule’s fault, it was NASCAR’s fault

  • @Tylnorton

    @Tylnorton

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah Harvick was VERY smart with that rule. It was a broken rule and also the Chase format that's still being used today is VERY broken so yeah the best driver all season was about to be eliminated and he took advantage of the rule.

  • @Corrupted_Currency2618
    @Corrupted_Currency2618Ай бұрын

    I think NASCAR needs to not call a caution unless its ACTUALLY NEEDED

  • @LAJay101
    @LAJay101Ай бұрын

    Here is a hot shot idea. Unlimited restarts, however after the third OT caution- the whole field comes in to pit (no position changes) and every consecutive third OT restart is a mandatory pit. All drivers will have the best equipment chance & enough fuel to race to the end.

  • @nascarfanatic2425
    @nascarfanatic2425Ай бұрын

    Overtime in NASCAR has become as outdated as the payphone. I said it should be the scheduled distance on Sunday, and I'm sticking to that. People need to understand that NASCAR isn't a stick & ball sport. In sports like baseball, football, hockey, and basketball, we have overtime in the event that there's a tie between the teams after 9 innings/4 quarters/3 periods of play. In NASCAR, we never have that problem.

  • @polycube868

    @polycube868

    Ай бұрын

    Yes to all points! Teams owners should start complaining it costs money and to get rid of it.

  • @nascarfanatic2425

    @nascarfanatic2425

    Ай бұрын

    @@polycube868 Especially since NASCAR emphasized about how they're trying to help save teams money and help them make more money with the charter system. If people haven't figured out by now, neither of which are happening.

  • @polycube868

    @polycube868

    Ай бұрын

    @@nascarfanatic2425 and these new cars are way more expensive than it was building the old cars in house.

  • @hendomac20
    @hendomac20Ай бұрын

    3 in history seemed to do fine because it at least puts a limit on it. Ain't no one gonna want 5 or more restarts tbh.

  • @tanker335
    @tanker335Ай бұрын

    The overtime was the only entertaining part of that snooze fest.

  • @RJ_TwentySix
    @RJ_TwentySixАй бұрын

    Its fine the way it is. NASCAR overreacting to rare occurrences is usually what people complain about. Same people wanting 0 OTs are the same that complained when NASCAR overreacted to Watkins Glen last year and the stage cautions returned. I guess its okay to overreact if the result is something that is "gOiNg BaCk To ThE gOoD oLe DaYs" to this braindead fanbase.

  • @Jose-Gomez
    @Jose-GomezАй бұрын

    1 Attempt.

  • @AndrewFRC135
    @AndrewFRC135Ай бұрын

    Ok, here's an alternate idea: Unlimited overtime restarts, but all overtime restarts are now mandated as single-file (no choose cone). There's still the possibility of multiple OT restarts, but the hungry drivers aren't packed together and tempted to ship it 4 wide into turn 1.

  • @bowlinerailfan
    @bowlinerailfanАй бұрын

    None. Finish the race at the scheduled distance. They can red flag the race with no less than three laps to go to get the track ready again and throw the restart green flag next time at the line to try and finish under the green. If a wreck occurs past turn one, let them race back to the line instead of freezing the field except for those behind the wreck so those behind the wreck don't risk becoming part of the wreck.

  • @thenascarfreak5557
    @thenascarfreak5557Ай бұрын

    I believe that NASCAR should keep OT's attempts unlimited still. It would be a big risk to limit the amount of OT's especially down in the lower series. More mistakes, inexperienced, and dumb driving are in the lower series. I believe as all fans, we want to see the race to end in excitement no matter what.

  • @Chris_Shoaf
    @Chris_ShoafАй бұрын

    We did the Tony Stewart quote we run until half the field is wrecked

  • @dkong242003
    @dkong242003Ай бұрын

    The race was a mess? I think you mean drama-filled? Logano endured to the end. It was crazy that he was able to save fuel for that long. This is an outlier finish. A closer has to be able to win in any circumstance. Sometimes the race is rain-shortened, sometimes it's a green white checker finish, sometimes your setup is bad out of the gate and you have to adjust it like crazy to get it to be a winning car, sometimes you get spun out and have to come back, etc. Chaos is good if it's fair chaos.

  • @dkong242003

    @dkong242003

    Ай бұрын

    Penalize intentional wrecks or cautions, but these are best of tge best; they don't need their hands held. Maybe limit the overtime in trucks and xfinity, but not cup.

  • @aarontalksculture4946
    @aarontalksculture4946Ай бұрын

    My first choice is "Caution laps don't count within the last 10 laps of a race." 2nd choice is 2 Green-White-Checker

  • @Double5Racing
    @Double5RacingАй бұрын

    Another good idea is not counting caution laps once they reach 10 to go, because if there's a caution with like 5 or 6 to go, it doesn't just become a 2 lap shootout where everybody drives overly aggressive

  • @user-cn6cb7hj2u
    @user-cn6cb7hj2uАй бұрын

    I think we should go to the schedule distance. Yes it’s less dramatic but it’s bad for the sport to see the best drivers in the world crashing at every restart attempt and I want the most deserving drivers to win that’s also why I don’t like stage racing.

  • @NeverwascooL
    @NeverwascooLАй бұрын

    I like one overtime of around 5-10 laps. They can restart as many times in between with cautions but it won't run more than 10 extra laps period. Laps run to clean up or reorganize the cars into position do not count towards the 10 lap limit as they must be 10 full speed laps. Then if there is a caution on the final overtime lap then the field is frozen at the point of crash and the officials can go back and declare winners.

  • @Joshua-yb8mc
    @Joshua-yb8mcАй бұрын

    Short answer: Unlimited!!!!!!!

  • @milogunther5024
    @milogunther5024Ай бұрын

    I think it should be time limited based on how many miles. 299> 2.5 hours max, 300-399 3.5 hours, 400-499 4 hours max, 500 miles, 4.5 hours. The 600 max of 5 hours. Plus 60-90 minutes extra due to rain after stage 2

  • @Carnbyedward
    @CarnbyedwardАй бұрын

    I will get hated on for making this idea but hear this one out. Instead of doing an Overtime like we've been doing or doing a schedule only thing. How about this. In Iracing, The Street Stock series (C class) on short tracks does this thing where if a yellow comes out, all laps are not counted until the race is resumed. So my thinking is this, why not do it in the cup series (Or really all 3) once you get to 10 to go, and it counts down per yellow flag? So once the leaders cross the line it'll count. BUT, laps during the pacing do NOT count. This will improve strategy and make the teams have to be calculated as to not make any mistakes per Restart and have to be civilized. Now, here is where people will get testy here. How will 3 to go work? Same, but here's the catch. Once you cross 2 to go. It keeps going until last lap. Now here is where it gets interesting, once last lap is thrown and a caution is thrown out. It CANNOT go over that. You HAVE to cross the line no matter what. So this would be treated like a Overtime but you only get 1 lap to do it once the green is thrown. (Green White) So if you have idiots crashing, here is what it would happen once you're in a Green White phase. NASCAR itself will penalize ANY driver who wrecks anyone or deliberatly tried to cause a crash during this phase. You get sent to the rear or parked. No exeptions, and they have to see what happened. If you're wrecked out or you wreck someone else out, you pay minor fines for causing big ones when you should of been more careful during this phase of the race. (This would encourage teams to make sure their drivers just take it home and not just bin people or themselves out of a race) Mechanical damaged cars that throw a caution due to themselves wrecking out will never be penalized, everyone just sets up and resets. (However if you just get in peoples way when you cause a crash or a pile up, a heavy fine will be applied to that driver of that team) I know this is a odd ball idea, but I figure this would probably promote a good racing product vs what we got as options by NASCAR right now in it's current state vs the old ways. If you don't like it, comment why. If you think it's a cool idea, same thing. Pin this if you legit think it's a amazing idea that should be discussed as a solution.

  • @silentbob3208
    @silentbob3208Ай бұрын

    None. Seriously. No overtimes. Why bother when it could also end under yellow during OT? Race the scheduled distance. So what if it ends under yellow. Oh, and thanks a lot, Cindric!

  • @Greasy_Creep_Jay
    @Greasy_Creep_JayАй бұрын

    Gonna throw something a little different out. Rather than a set number of overtime attempts, have a countdown timer once you hit the scheduled distance. The time could vary based on the track, but imagine only having 20 minutes to figure it out regardless of how many overtime attempts they have it has to be done in that time window. If the timer runs out under caution then whomever is ahead is the winner. But then, I also think they should impose the rule that every short track I know of does where if you spin someone out and it causes a caution you go to the rear.

  • @DewkChronic
    @DewkChronicАй бұрын

    It was not nascars fault people stayed out when they knew they are probably not going to make it and teams shouldn't have the information that it cant go 2 GWC past the race length.

  • @jacksonyon5276
    @jacksonyon5276Ай бұрын

    3 is enough I think. No matter what happens on 3rd OT, it is final

  • @brandensimmons653
    @brandensimmons653Ай бұрын

    One shot overtime with no double file restart to the advertised distance

  • @brianbrownfield3354
    @brianbrownfield3354Ай бұрын

    Rules should not change based on outliers, especially at a track the size of Nashville. If every superspeedway race ended with five overtimes, then okay, let's look at the rule. Smaller tracks never come close to what we saw at Nashville 2024. Keep it as is, and if overtimes start becoming increasingly more chaotic and running as deep as they were, then okay. It's like baseball adding in the "ghost runner" on second base in extra innings. What they should have done was change the rule to where that runner doesn't come into play until the 13th inning, or something like that.

  • @jonpeek5619
    @jonpeek5619Ай бұрын

    the answer is one. Finishing under green is a good idea. Fox and NBC always say these are the best stock car drivers. So completing two laps should be easy.

  • @brycewilliams6542
    @brycewilliams6542Ай бұрын

    My preference is no gimmicks. Scheduled distance and that’s it

  • @polycube868

    @polycube868

    Ай бұрын

    Same here, most races wouldn't have a good finish without a green-white-checkers, and I wouldn't feel robbed of a possible exciting finish if a race where William Byron had a 5 second lead ends under yellow.

  • @jacobshelor419
    @jacobshelor419Ай бұрын

    Unlimited overtime opportunities under the same format, BUT at the end of regulation, the field is hard frozen, and everyone gets a free pit stop, similar to the Clash halftime stop (no one can change position during the free stop, if a second stop is made, then so be it).

  • @PrimeTap
    @PrimeTapАй бұрын

    Quintuple overtime: an event so rare that it has never happened until now. Yet, some whine like they have had to endure the end of the world and others celebrate the rare and entertaining treat that the chaos provided. I wouldn't change a thing unless we went even further on the unlimited overtimes with the addition of it being required to finish under green.

  • @nicolesgaming8917
    @nicolesgaming8917Ай бұрын

    Honestly, set a time limit, like F1 has (with limits two hours of on-track action, and 3 hours [counting red flags] from the start of the formation lap). F1 had the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix take 4 hours to finish, and something was done about it. I can't see why NASCAR couldn't do it.

  • @moustachedbl7285
    @moustachedbl7285Ай бұрын

    Last week we were discussing how drivers and teams should've been allowed to self police themselves with Wet or Slick tires. Now this week we discuss whether NASCAR should police the drivers on Overtime finishes. Make it make sense.

  • @SomethingUnprofessional69
    @SomethingUnprofessional69Ай бұрын

    Ending under caution was cool

  • @cito1101
    @cito1101Ай бұрын

    1 and done, or none at all. That's it The fact people are saying that Unlimited OT's are a great way to end a race, proves they're not real racefans

  • @Lowlife-jc8us

    @Lowlife-jc8us

    Ай бұрын

    You people seem to think that way but unlimited restarts don't normally go over 3. So I don't get it.

  • @cito1101

    @cito1101

    Ай бұрын

    @Lowlife-jc8us Does last years Trucks Series finale ring a bell??

  • @richiemcewen
    @richiemcewenАй бұрын

    I would be happy with one shot at overtime but with the caveat of there being strategically placed faux finish lines around the track that whenever the leader makes it to that line, that is when the yellow comes out and freezes the field. And I do not even mean that far apart. Maybe, every 1/2 mile on 1.5 mile tracks and bigger and every 1/4 mile on tracks smaller, have a white line across the track. This would allow for some sort of finish and for safety crews to get to drivers quickly.

  • @ToxicFrostbite
    @ToxicFrostbiteАй бұрын

    I highly disagree with the opening statement. Unlimited overtimes add drama. Considering how bad passing was. And the fuel strategies used. Caused the chaos at the end. Which isn't a bad thing

  • @WARRIOR30046

    @WARRIOR30046

    Ай бұрын

    Right?! The most chaos came from guys running out of gas! The strategy play was crazy and wild to see it all work out. The only way you could have avoided that much chaos is to of told the drivers and teams they HAD to pit. Short of that there was nothing to be done and that's not even a discussion worst having lol.

  • @mag1cman777

    @mag1cman777

    Ай бұрын

    It’s manufactured, phony drama. If that’s what you want, go watch an opera.

  • @herpetoticino
    @herpetoticinoАй бұрын

    It's interesting cause in europe majority of persons hate how F1, WEC and other GT series can finish under caution. Majority of people founded the race amazing 😅

  • @Joshua8824Racing
    @Joshua8824RacingАй бұрын

    3 overtimes is definitely the most default one. But here's honestly what I'd do with overtime. 2 attempts First attempt is Double file But if we don't get to the white then the Second attempt will be Single file. It'll really be a way to show the drivers that they need to race with respect especially in overtime.

  • @rgman76
    @rgman76Ай бұрын

    Nashville wasn’t too good, some of my favorite drivers like Bell, Briscoe, and Chastain fell short, but at least my most favorite driver won. Go logano!

  • @DankWilliams_Jr.

    @DankWilliams_Jr.

    Ай бұрын

    Chastain fans for l1fe

  • @RAGINGKNUCKLES
    @RAGINGKNUCKLESАй бұрын

    I would say keep it unlimited with the exception that after a certain amount of attempts to do single file restarts Single file restarts after 1-3 attempts would limit the chaos while still given a higher chance to complete the race under green.

  • @ThandrieDavis
    @ThandrieDavisАй бұрын

    After overtime 1, drop the bottom 20 cars. After overtime 2, drop another 10 cars. After overtime 3, drop five more cars.

  • @RingsideCinema
    @RingsideCinemaАй бұрын

    New video series... "Who win's the Championship if OT did not exist or if there was only 1 OT"

  • @DominicGreene72

    @DominicGreene72

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve been morbidly curious about that statistic, how many drivers would have won if races just went race distance but lost the win to overtime.

  • @Winters34
    @Winters34Ай бұрын

    stop arguing, stop complaining. Just watch the fucking sport

  • @joegonzales5826
    @joegonzales5826Ай бұрын

    1 overtime if you crash the race is over

  • @hamlinfanatic11
    @hamlinfanatic11Ай бұрын

    My vote is for 3 overtimes. If it still ends under caution then it's like "alright, you guys suck we're going home" but I feel like theres still enough chances to get it right and have a good finish.

  • @Ttt11q
    @Ttt11qАй бұрын

    AS MANY AS IT TAKES!!!!!

  • @adamalfredsson373

    @adamalfredsson373

    Ай бұрын

    Hell no, the race should run to the advertised distance and NO FURTHER

  • @theLongPigChef
    @theLongPigChefАй бұрын

    I don't think a race should ever end without someone crossing the finish line. I don't care if there's a caution on the last lap. Rack em back up.

  • @darthhull85
    @darthhull85Ай бұрын

    None. If it’s a 300 mile race, end it at 300.

  • @StruggleGaming
    @StruggleGamingАй бұрын

    Ngl, theres isnt a need for a fix. Its motor racing, the fact that we even have a system to get a green flag finish is already is already the "fix" If too many restarts is a problem, limit to 3-4 ( 3 strikes/4 quarters) After that, dont touch it. Its one of the few things NASCAR has done right.

  • @ZachTTrull
    @ZachTTrullАй бұрын

    I really don’t think there’s anything wrong with the way it is now

  • @johnstickles6789
    @johnstickles6789Ай бұрын

    Most new fans only watch for the wrecks anyway. Unlimited restarts 3 wide that way half the field ends up on a flat bed. Or we could turn around and run the opposite direction for overtime since the new fans wanna see wrecks anyway.

  • @J.M863
    @J.M863Ай бұрын

    How about time? An extra 5-10 minutes. That fits well with networks, and at the end of that time the next flag ends it

  • @buckman840
    @buckman840Ай бұрын

    TV/Nascar wants unlimited since the wreckfests increase the viewership without costing them money. If its a conflict for TV its slids to some nth tier format that requires a subscription(more money). Ultimately extended restarts are bad for teams whom get the smallest of the revenue share..