I live in Hawaii, If you could afford an acre of land here on Oahu you could have 10 cows per acre. They could eat and watch the grass grow! LOL 😆
@ValkyrieJones
Жыл бұрын
There are ranchers on other islands. Very expensive and you better not be white. I had kids with a Norwegian. They cant go there.
@Paco-S.
Жыл бұрын
can't you apply for a land grant if you are native hawaiian? I can't recall correctly but I think they'll give you like 5 to 8 acres or something
@Pfarley
Жыл бұрын
Paniolo cowboys. High production of Beef in Hawaii. Grass never stops growing
@Paco-S.
Жыл бұрын
@@Pfarley fun fact. Hawaii was the first place in America to run cows. Oldest cowboys in America are the paniolos
@Pfarley
Жыл бұрын
@@Paco-S. Florida dates back 500 years. How many years does Hawaii date back Paco?
@tyjames2152 Жыл бұрын
You not saying but saying “ stay outta Montana “ Lol
@sablehund1219
5 ай бұрын
😂😂That's too funny! But he's just being real I think. People think they can just get cows and throw them outside in the backyard and make money it seems.lol. We're truck drivers and can't believe how the grass is still growing in some southern stares!
@Pterodactyl-kn3ve
5 ай бұрын
No one is moving to MT to be a cattle rancher.
@gambleoakranch
5 ай бұрын
The Dakotas did not say that
@johnswanson3741
5 ай бұрын
He probably inherited the ranch through generations, so no land payment , just rancher friendly taxes. The ranchers run the state of Montana, for better or worse!
@Christyc250
5 ай бұрын
@@gambleoakranchwe are the same as MT. In northwest ND good luck trying to buy land that's lower than 5k to 10k an acre. SD is a little better with growing but not by much. And we dont have that extra grow season to put cows on cover crops in the winter like the southern states do.
@bandnerd1548 Жыл бұрын
Where I live in Texas it's recommended 4-6 acres per large herd animal.
@PAKallman
Жыл бұрын
Dry winters. Florida alabama etc are much wetter
@joesauceda69
Жыл бұрын
@@PAKallmantexas is a really big state. nothing “dry” about where i live. damn near same climate as southern florida except it does get a little colder here but in exchange it gets hotter here. you can cut the summer air with a knife. live a couple hours away from the mexico border but on the gulf and it actually rains more in the winter than it does in the summer here
@dalewadsworth5703
Жыл бұрын
If you get west of Ft. Worth the per/unit acreage goes up quickly. This summer no rain for well of 💯 days and temperature 99 and up . Parker County Palo Pinto Jack and beaucoup more had wild fires.
@matthewheinze1231
Жыл бұрын
West Central Texas is 10+ acres per pair on real good years. Most times it's closer to 20+. Don't forget to add in hay. Junk hay is going for $65-75 for a round bale.
@GarySmith-ss1ee
Жыл бұрын
It's the same here in Tennessee
@davidmcgilvray4910 Жыл бұрын
Here in the Blue ridge of Virginia and it’s one cow per acre. Good years we get 4 solid hay cuttings, one in late April early May, good rain we can get another in late July early august and another in mid September, then a late cut in late October.
@bradleymiller7375
4 ай бұрын
Can u count?
@tkk3411 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Ohio and worked on a ranch in Central Montana for several years. one thing I realized is you have to also look st the price per cow/acres. in Ohio I can run a cow to 1or two acres but land here because of the row crop potential has been selling for 10 to 13 thousand an acre. if I need two acres that's 26000$ of land per cow. it takes more than one calf a year to cover that bill the way I pencil it out.
@xyzabc243 Жыл бұрын
There is a little bit of a difference though. Acreage is a lot more expensive in those areas so it is equally as difficult to finance.
@HomerEscobar1
Жыл бұрын
California is a great place to raise cattle.
@ktanner11
3 ай бұрын
@@HomerEscobar1 California is a communist shit hole. I geel bad for the generational farmers there. Between the government complaining about cow farts, the homeless and crime stupid taxes stupid laws who in there right mind would want to go there? California has a mass Exodus, problem is they move because of said problems then go somewhere else and vote the same asinine way
@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 Жыл бұрын
Central Texas is about 10 acres per cow (course if you have a fertile place and plant well managed Bermuda some can have a cow per 3 to 4 acres). Abilene (about 3 hours west) area is 12 acres per cow.
@JM-yx1lm
Жыл бұрын
Probably because y'all have all those rocks in the soil.
@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027
Жыл бұрын
@@JM-yx1lm you are correct. That is definitely a contributing factor.
@jamfork3871 Жыл бұрын
I like that you are quietly telling people to not move to Montana, I'm in West River South Dakota and wish these people would get a hint and leave!
@willhorting5317
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@billieford9683
Жыл бұрын
Well unless you were born in Montana perhaps people thought the same way about you
@HomerEscobar1
Жыл бұрын
Everybody came from somewhere else at some point. California didn't get 40 million people in that state because they grew out of the ground.
@rspranchinmontana Жыл бұрын
Im glad you shared this important info my friend. Most folks think we are completely nuts for running cows up here in the mountains of Montana where we have cows on HAY only for 9 months of the year! Yes. I think we are crazy. LOL! Making money with that kind of system has to depend on use of cattle in more ways than the normal income revenues. Down lower where you are is still incredibly difficult because the winters are just SO LONG up here in Montana! You truly have to understand how cattle ranching works before you decide to get into ranching. Thanks for sharing really good info!
@veramae4098
Жыл бұрын
Which is why so much alfalfa is grown out west, which is why so much water is sucked up from the LIMITED underground water sources. More than is being replaced. Get ready to get out of the cattle businres where you have to do that. This can't go on forever.
@artskiwendy
4 ай бұрын
UP THIS WAY..IN RED LODGE WHERE I LIVE....NOT A LIT OF CATTLE ANYMORE..THEY ARE FARMING HOUSES
@markkuneman7820 Жыл бұрын
This is so crazy to me. Our ranch in north Texas still has grass growing until late October/ early November.
@shaneh1003
Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@jeffc2630
Жыл бұрын
? You have a ranch, but didn't know that grass doesn't grow under snow? Or Montana is chilly?
@davidbenner2289 Жыл бұрын
One or two acres per cow in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. In the Valley and nearby valleys into West Virginia, Blue Ridge land, a lot of farming is growing hay for cattle out West.
@puddin6945 Жыл бұрын
Dont come to Tennessee it’s full😂
@cindy9032
Жыл бұрын
Don't come to NC either it's full too!!!
@MajorChipHazard1
Жыл бұрын
Not only is South Carolina full but theirs a bunch of pissed off saaquatches who got into a still and ate all the mash. They rampage and steal kids, pets and livestock at night. 0-10 don't recommend....and we have the highest state income tax in the south.
@Badger1776
Жыл бұрын
We’re buying land there next spring. But I promise you we share the same general beliefs if you’re saying that because we will still own land here in the soon to be commie land of Arizona. Floods of people moving here. You won’t even notice I’m there 😉
@cindy9032
Жыл бұрын
@@Badger1776 I guess we could make room for one more...😉
@ducnrun4659
Жыл бұрын
@@MajorChipHazard1 🇺🇸👍🏻 So highlarious!! Luv it! Ha! I caught days ago! Now I understand the Sasquatch thing! It means stay away! Ha!! Got it! Will do!🤪😉
@BlackSeranna Жыл бұрын
I think Kentucky would be a great place to raise cattle. The grass here aggressively grows. The only thing about Kentucky is all the hills.
@davidmcgilvray4910
Жыл бұрын
Same here in western Virginia!
@tylerpippin7098
5 ай бұрын
I live in the Ozarks. The hills are great cattle country. Get 4x4 dont drive along steep hills drive up and down. You dont even need 4x4 if its not muddy
@rxonmymind8362 Жыл бұрын
Code for "Don't come to Montana. Not worth it. Terrible place to raise good cows. They'll hate you when they are teenagers". 😁
@willhorting5317
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@meycoe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my thoughts too....STAY AWAY! Lol
@bradleymiller7375
4 ай бұрын
@@meycoego to Montana, Californians!
@Robert-ds8ec Жыл бұрын
I lived around Eureka Montana for a spell, I dearly love the Rockies there...I live back in KY now. We had two farms in Kentucky plus I had grazing rights on another farm too. Now I'm retired, still live in the country , I'm seventy now.
@jeffc2630
Жыл бұрын
What's that got to do with the length of grazing times?
@galewinds7696
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffc2630 nothing.... the man had something he wanted to say.... so he said it.. that's ok with you isn't it....?
@drob7624 ай бұрын
I keep it a 2 acres per cow and I’m in Ga. We focus as much on grass quality as we do the herd and it shows purchase time. But to make a living you have to have a lot of cows
@frankgeorgeo8582 Жыл бұрын
i think about that here in PA alot of people have cattle and small properties because of longer growing season . but alot of farms are sold off for parking lots and warehouses for shipping and receiving products that are useless for feeding society. smh I'm gonna need my own farm soon. 🙄👍
@Outdoorsnmotors5 ай бұрын
He’s basically telling Californians to stay the fuck out of Montana, I talked to a couple from Montana and they said everyone moving there is completely wrecking their state, he even blamed the show Yellowstone, which I 100% agree
@larryterrell8458 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that wool jacket?. Nice.
@vintage1950 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know this. Here in the U.K. they just move cows from field to field until the grass grows back.
@BuckingFastard
Жыл бұрын
They still take into account how many per acre. That’s why they move them to allow grass to come back.
@cr4zyj4ck
Жыл бұрын
Its how the ranchers move herds in the United States too, if I have one hundred acres, I can divide that into sections. And let my four cows graze on one section, while the other sections grow grass. After the section the cows are on is depleted, I move my four cows to the next section. I still need one hundred acres to raise four cows, but the cows aren't actively grazing all one hundred acres the whole time, that would be irresponsible land management.
@billstarkel77834 ай бұрын
Washington state has become a nightmare. Montana is calling my name. Soo beautiful and peaceful. Couldn't do what you do but greatly appreciate it.
@ccassidy43montana4 ай бұрын
And remember folks... Montana winters are 10 months and we are full of Californians...
@spiffanator Жыл бұрын
I learned something today.
@rexcolt2108 Жыл бұрын
Yep! Thanks John
@SaltyMamaw Жыл бұрын
Florida turns brown in the winter. Hibernation of plants starts in Nov and goes to March.
@joeboudreault2226 Жыл бұрын
Trinity VandenTexas has spoken. Thank you.
@cliffordbufford171 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I love Alabama
@murraycrichton2001
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you love your sister too.
@fivecrosses9040
Жыл бұрын
@@murraycrichton2001 of course he does
@5toolbreaks
8 ай бұрын
absolute ignorance ^
@bentonrector26415 ай бұрын
In oklahoma, we can run about 40 head on 70 acres and it depends where in the state your located, but you will typically pay through the ass for cleared grassland regardless
@nickjimenez4262 Жыл бұрын
Year round, when i moved to tenn from cali its like a freakin jungle here
@MoonShadowRayne
Жыл бұрын
It usually does turn into a jungle when Californians move in.
@henryc7548
Жыл бұрын
@@MoonShadowRayne Classic!
@BrendaBodwin Жыл бұрын
😁😂🤣 I just chewed you out on the wolf video, and said this to you!! Not OK, or TX, not enough water in either. Dont have to go that far south either. Its 2;1. Dobt need grass year round. Winter we just switch over to hay, like you do. Michigan religiously gets 3 hay cuttings per year, but most often gets 4 or 5. TN too. My personal ranch is in Wyoming, but we have family ranches in MI and TN. I dont utilize my full 4000 acres , in WY, for ranching. (Tiny, puny, place compared to my neighbors, 90k, 136k, 126k, 360k BLM, Parks) About half of my place is working ranch, but that half includes my 20 acre garden, my chickens = another 5 acres ,and my home & 6 out buildings, so not even half. The other half, I just like altering the Earth, to make it do, what everybody said I couldn't be done in WY. Yes, I can, and do. Made it into a 2000 acre mini paradise, growing things that people said couldn't grow here. Like oak, maple, & fruit trees. Sweet grass. (The Elk love it too.) Back east, we've sold 1500lb rounds for $60 the last few years. 5 cuttings. Water... theres plenty over there. Rains often. JS. I just bought a couple small, neighbouring, properties in TN. 622 acres, and 631 acres. I can raise far more cattle there than I could even think about raising on my WY 4k place.
@PAKallman Жыл бұрын
Good to know! I have wondered this many times
@iduswelton9567 Жыл бұрын
i think in Arkansas u need 3/4 of an acre per cow to make a living ranching- i think the mountains here have more beef cattle and the low lands are where the dairy cattle are- on my family land we raise 150 acres in hay the feed cattle- which we do sell to ranchers
@matthewheinze1231 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to figure in land price or lease per acre. Land is cheap in more arid locations, but takes more. Pencil it out.
@JmsnCrpntr5 ай бұрын
As a fellow Montanan, great advice 😂😂😂
@westbamafarmer Жыл бұрын
I’m in Alabama and you are absolutely right I got cows and the grass grows year round great video keep ranching
@jmac28295 ай бұрын
In Kentucky, I've always been told that I should figure one cow, per acre. We always had less cattle than we did pasture so we never had a problem with under grazing. I'd love to come out west and see how things run out there. I sure do appreciate u sharing tips with us. Always an interesting video and usually learn something each one I watch.
@jimhafer2125 ай бұрын
cool season, perennial grasses are super nutrition and respond well to grazing. MT weaning and 205 day adjusting weights are fantastic, and done with no creep feeding. Few know but MT is closed to non residents for the next 20 years ... check back often tho for updates.
@DanoMano1987 Жыл бұрын
good advice. thank you.
@IsaacSwift-uc7jq11 ай бұрын
Good advice!
@ja5onl6 Жыл бұрын
I live in northwest montana, we have 2 cow calf pairs, 14 goats and 3 pasture pigs, we have our property cross fenced for pasture, we can make enough hay for our animals and graze them on a little over 20 acres, depends on the year and location for how many acres per cow.
@juliocolobrado6430 Жыл бұрын
good info ♥️♥️
@joshuabrown13094 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm from Georgia and that goes along with what a farmer told me one time if your ground is poor maybe two and a half acres per cow.
@jamesyates5191 Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting statistics. We own a 7000 acre ranch in coastal Northern California which is quite mountainous and we run 165 cow-calf (370 total).
@planetclaire820boulder85 ай бұрын
Was a truly nice way to put it ! LOL !😂 you're clever!
@rodyates4771 Жыл бұрын
Here in Tennessee 2 acres per cow for grazing and mowing the grass for hay.
@kennethheern48965 ай бұрын
They recommend 3 acres per cow , here in Southern Illinois.
@helenfederoff7603 Жыл бұрын
If I lived where I had that view - I would never get work done. You've got the life!
@glenglessman2093 Жыл бұрын
in northern alberta it takes 1.5 acres per cow for grass and hay we only graze 5 mounths if we r lucky land price is 7000 per acre
@maryloumay8499 Жыл бұрын
Sorry from Alabama but we are required to have AT LEAST 1 acre per animal (horse or cow). And our grass is currently dormant until probably 1st part of March end of February.
@ryanullom73534 ай бұрын
Grandpa always suggested 3.5 acres to a pair, cow and her calf. That’s here in Kansas.
@dankingjr.2088 Жыл бұрын
Here in Southern New Mexico, it's more like 60 acres unless you supplement. Tough dam way to make a living
@kaimetodd
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right. The chihuahuan desert is brutal. Might have two week growing season.
@scotty31143 ай бұрын
In northeastern NM, it's 11 acres per cow. People from back east don't get the west, north or south.
@tumbleweedking5668 Жыл бұрын
Protein content isn't the same in all grass. Cattle can starve to death on belly deep grass.
@windmechanic Жыл бұрын
I'm a former Okie. The Sooner State has a WIDE variance of requirements for a cow/calf pair. It's over 500 miles from McCurtain to Cimmaron Counties. The latter, in the Panhandle's tail end (much of their land is school trust land and very trying for today's land lesees with a 5 year bid period!), generally requires nearly 40 acres because of the semi-desert, often dry climate and is over 4000' above sea level. The former is in the southeast end, bordered by the Red River and SW Arkansas and is mostly lowlands under 500' above sea level with some mountains, so rain is way more plentiful. Note though, there's been drought conditions earlier this year which affected that SE region, severe enough that many cattlemen had to sell portions or entire herds.
@devonsalyers77055 ай бұрын
Seminole county, FL about 3 acres per cow due to swamps. Lots of swamps. So realistically 30-32 head per hundred acres
@MamaBethsWorld Жыл бұрын
Glad my family raises beef in VA! Takes less land per head and is DELICIOUS!!!
@christow7989 Жыл бұрын
So you're saying, being a rancher in a more moderate climate would be wiser
@roycolglazier1061 Жыл бұрын
A dear friend with roots in OK, still owns part of a ranch on prime river bottom land, that supports a cow & a calf per acre!! He will hold it as a legacy for his two sons...
@Phoenix_Atlas Жыл бұрын
I grew up in louisiana and all the ranchers there have at least 10 cows/bulls per acre. Sometimes more.
@mikeloggains5474 Жыл бұрын
Where I live in the cross Timbers region of Texas it’s about 15 acres per cow.
@sethgnade35305 ай бұрын
We always figured 3 acres per cow here, that included the hay ground as well.
@johnjacob442 Жыл бұрын
Look up Greg Judy on KZread he does mob grazing and he was just in Arizona with a farm he just helped to get up and running and that farm does mob grazing.
@Chaske-Hoyt Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Trinity as a fellow Native Montanan I like you’re strategy here the Ole Bait and switch keep them out of staters out state Lol! No jkng Does make sense to start out with land that can feed year round.
@benjaminbranam2498 Жыл бұрын
I live in tennessee, and we say 1 ½ acres per cow. But you'll probably need to feed hay for 3 or 4 months a year
@robertmillen2967 Жыл бұрын
2.5 acres in South western Kentucky We had 60 acres of pasture and 20 of hay for 32 cows with calves
@RipRoarinRedneck03114 ай бұрын
Southern Mississippi is that way too. Grasses, vines, moss and weeds grows just about year round. In a month of growth, ur looking at 1-3 foot of growth.
@TheKjoy85 Жыл бұрын
I live in Western Washington. We don't get the cold and the snow that Montana does. Our growing season is a lot longer, but not year-round like in the South. I'm not sure on the growth cycle for pasture grass, but I know that we can mow for hay 2-3 times per year depending on the soil composition and the weather.
@chuckbeasley72183 ай бұрын
In Arkansas where I run cattle to do it right you need 4 acres per cow not to over graze
@MAP14925 ай бұрын
In Colorado, we get 2-3 cuttings of grass hay after June. Amazing that Montana doesn’t get grass growth during that time.
@tylerpippin70985 ай бұрын
Here in the Ozarks its a cow an acre, sometimes more if you have nice bottom with lots of sediment that washed down from the hills. My grandpa has 55 head on 42 acres. Washington county arkansas used to have the highest stocking rate in the country at 300k head. Down to 95k from so much development and the rich folks coming to work for walmart, buying up land and buying a tractor just to mow all their land and call it a ranch😂
@patwebbLima30545 ай бұрын
Did you all notice how he was sure pushing people to move anywhere BUT Montana 😂😂😂😂
@Redact63Lluks Жыл бұрын
I know a rancher in Montana with a few hundred head of cattle, you can't even see land he doesn't own from his buildings.
@marschlosser4540 Жыл бұрын
Average in the East, 2 acres per cow/calf unit. In the north, that 2 acres is pasture and hay. Here, Arizona, 57 acres. It's not so much the feed as available water. If you can irrigate a pasture, then you can put a lot of cows on an acre but move them several times a day.
@donaldR71662 ай бұрын
I farm 22 acres in southern Arkansas and move my cows everyday. My paddocks are 1 acre each and I graze 30 cows on that and feed hay from the last week in November to mid February.
@danw6014 Жыл бұрын
In Michigan I can turn sheep out around the 1st of May and graze until the winter when the snow is to deep for them to find grass. Some winters we don't have much snow so I can keep them out in the field until shearing time and then they want to be inside. After lambs are born and started, I turn them back out. I like having corn near by as well because after I pick ear corn I like to turn the sheep out on corn stubble for an hour or so each day. I have been experimenting with mob grazing and at this point I think could run about 50 sheep on for acres all summer or about a cow and a half per acre.
@willhorting5317 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what the "official" amount is in Kansas. But I know that my dad always made sure to have 5 to 6 acres per cow/calf pair, year-round, plus feeding both brome bales and alfalfa bales during the cold months.
@jeff-hh9mc6 ай бұрын
So everywhere I know of in Texas the standard rule is five acres per cow. Lotta scrub brush and it’s heating up. Santa gertruda and longhorn is all anyone I know runs down there.
@joeblowjohndoe20622 күн бұрын
Let’s not forget that when it’s not raining every other day down there you can dig a 30 foot hole and have more water than you know what to do with…
@brutallyhonestbeej9465 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@lauragoin1227 Жыл бұрын
I use to live on 387 acres a calf birth mountain. I loved it . Fields of trumpet swans. Coyotes bobcat ect. But I didn't farm.
@copperridgegrow39403 ай бұрын
It depends on your location. I live in Virginia and keep 20 head on 12 acres. Other places you’d need much more acreage for that same 20 head. Yes I feed hay all winter and a bit in the summer too
@Cotkoe5 ай бұрын
I live in South Texas and run 2 per acre. However, that being said, i also roataional graze with irrigation.
@MrBodyguard380 Жыл бұрын
One acre per head in Oklahoma and Missouri. I try to keep mine to two acres per head. Gives me good separate pasture for my bull herd. But I have a smaller operation than you. I run around 145 to 160 on my Oklahoma 450 acres and about 600 head on my 1450 acres in Missouri. I have another 1500 acres in western Oklahoma I own and I lease another 2 sections or 1280 acres. I use my western Oklahoma place and lease for hay, wheat and milo. But, at 73, bout ready to turn it over to my kids and retire.
@gabrielm.9427 ай бұрын
Yeah but here in missouri cost for an acre has gone up dramatically.
@hellkittyninja7237 Жыл бұрын
I've researched for so long the different states that would be good for homesteading, and you just read off about half my list lmfao guess I can throw away all of my research now 😂 Fr though, those pythons and gators in Florida aren't a joke. Good luck if you buy there everything else seems great except the sink holes and hurricanes but that's the east coast for ya lol
@rookiefloridasportsman77875 ай бұрын
I do 1 acres a cow with rotational grazing. And on a really dry winter they get hay.
@charlesjenkins11915 ай бұрын
Look in to smaller paddocks and rotate frequently giving the land time to rest and you'll have a better grassland and won't have to supplement feed. Worth looking in to.
@Goji-eletienne5 ай бұрын
Moral of the story: "STOP trying to ranch in Montana! We're FULL!"
@dmoore8705 Жыл бұрын
In the northeast, minimum of one acre per animal, unless it's a horse. Then it's two.
@richardlusk1715 Жыл бұрын
In South Carolina it a acre to 1-1/2 acres per cow on fescue and we usually get 3 solid cuttings per year.i have heard of 4 but it not that common
@tacitregular28529 ай бұрын
In Louisiana rule of thumb is 2 acres per head
@user-vh3os9lk4m3 ай бұрын
Amazes me how large ranches survive in places that are horrible for herd sustainment
@angelbulldog4934 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, here in North Carolina it's about one cow per acre. We have lots of vegetation. Some winters it doesn't snow at all, others we may see 15 or 18 inches at one time. Whatever the weather or location, I love seeing cows grazing.
@OPPOSITE17708
Жыл бұрын
Is permit NC finished cows at barn only
@dreambeliever3652 Жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is: Don’t move here. 😉 Think I see where you’re going
@dreambeliever3652
Жыл бұрын
@Wade Wilson 😂. Yessem
@CHMichael5 ай бұрын
What you need is a shelter for the winter.
@MrLoobu Жыл бұрын
My grandfather had 90-100 head in upstate New York with way more winter on a 300-320 acre farm.
@Mikishots4 ай бұрын
25 acres a cow. Holy....cow.
@rachelnunley55789 ай бұрын
Less acres per cow, but the land is more expensive I’ve been looking into this for a while. All I wanna do is Homestead and Montana is beautiful but land down south is expensive.
@Drewj3333 Жыл бұрын
But I’m sure that the land costs a lot more per acre in those places.
@CrossTimbersSon Жыл бұрын
25 acres per cow! Wow, That’s a lot of land to hide in!
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I live in Hawaii, If you could afford an acre of land here on Oahu you could have 10 cows per acre. They could eat and watch the grass grow! LOL 😆
@ValkyrieJones
Жыл бұрын
There are ranchers on other islands. Very expensive and you better not be white. I had kids with a Norwegian. They cant go there.
@Paco-S.
Жыл бұрын
can't you apply for a land grant if you are native hawaiian? I can't recall correctly but I think they'll give you like 5 to 8 acres or something
@Pfarley
Жыл бұрын
Paniolo cowboys. High production of Beef in Hawaii. Grass never stops growing
@Paco-S.
Жыл бұрын
@@Pfarley fun fact. Hawaii was the first place in America to run cows. Oldest cowboys in America are the paniolos
@Pfarley
Жыл бұрын
@@Paco-S. Florida dates back 500 years. How many years does Hawaii date back Paco?
You not saying but saying “ stay outta Montana “ Lol
@sablehund1219
5 ай бұрын
😂😂That's too funny! But he's just being real I think. People think they can just get cows and throw them outside in the backyard and make money it seems.lol. We're truck drivers and can't believe how the grass is still growing in some southern stares!
@Pterodactyl-kn3ve
5 ай бұрын
No one is moving to MT to be a cattle rancher.
@gambleoakranch
5 ай бұрын
The Dakotas did not say that
@johnswanson3741
5 ай бұрын
He probably inherited the ranch through generations, so no land payment , just rancher friendly taxes. The ranchers run the state of Montana, for better or worse!
@Christyc250
5 ай бұрын
@@gambleoakranchwe are the same as MT. In northwest ND good luck trying to buy land that's lower than 5k to 10k an acre. SD is a little better with growing but not by much. And we dont have that extra grow season to put cows on cover crops in the winter like the southern states do.
Where I live in Texas it's recommended 4-6 acres per large herd animal.
@PAKallman
Жыл бұрын
Dry winters. Florida alabama etc are much wetter
@joesauceda69
Жыл бұрын
@@PAKallmantexas is a really big state. nothing “dry” about where i live. damn near same climate as southern florida except it does get a little colder here but in exchange it gets hotter here. you can cut the summer air with a knife. live a couple hours away from the mexico border but on the gulf and it actually rains more in the winter than it does in the summer here
@dalewadsworth5703
Жыл бұрын
If you get west of Ft. Worth the per/unit acreage goes up quickly. This summer no rain for well of 💯 days and temperature 99 and up . Parker County Palo Pinto Jack and beaucoup more had wild fires.
@matthewheinze1231
Жыл бұрын
West Central Texas is 10+ acres per pair on real good years. Most times it's closer to 20+. Don't forget to add in hay. Junk hay is going for $65-75 for a round bale.
@GarySmith-ss1ee
Жыл бұрын
It's the same here in Tennessee
Here in the Blue ridge of Virginia and it’s one cow per acre. Good years we get 4 solid hay cuttings, one in late April early May, good rain we can get another in late July early august and another in mid September, then a late cut in late October.
@bradleymiller7375
4 ай бұрын
Can u count?
I'm from Ohio and worked on a ranch in Central Montana for several years. one thing I realized is you have to also look st the price per cow/acres. in Ohio I can run a cow to 1or two acres but land here because of the row crop potential has been selling for 10 to 13 thousand an acre. if I need two acres that's 26000$ of land per cow. it takes more than one calf a year to cover that bill the way I pencil it out.
There is a little bit of a difference though. Acreage is a lot more expensive in those areas so it is equally as difficult to finance.
@HomerEscobar1
Жыл бұрын
California is a great place to raise cattle.
@ktanner11
3 ай бұрын
@@HomerEscobar1 California is a communist shit hole. I geel bad for the generational farmers there. Between the government complaining about cow farts, the homeless and crime stupid taxes stupid laws who in there right mind would want to go there? California has a mass Exodus, problem is they move because of said problems then go somewhere else and vote the same asinine way
Central Texas is about 10 acres per cow (course if you have a fertile place and plant well managed Bermuda some can have a cow per 3 to 4 acres). Abilene (about 3 hours west) area is 12 acres per cow.
@JM-yx1lm
Жыл бұрын
Probably because y'all have all those rocks in the soil.
@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027
Жыл бұрын
@@JM-yx1lm you are correct. That is definitely a contributing factor.
I like that you are quietly telling people to not move to Montana, I'm in West River South Dakota and wish these people would get a hint and leave!
@willhorting5317
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@billieford9683
Жыл бұрын
Well unless you were born in Montana perhaps people thought the same way about you
@HomerEscobar1
Жыл бұрын
Everybody came from somewhere else at some point. California didn't get 40 million people in that state because they grew out of the ground.
Im glad you shared this important info my friend. Most folks think we are completely nuts for running cows up here in the mountains of Montana where we have cows on HAY only for 9 months of the year! Yes. I think we are crazy. LOL! Making money with that kind of system has to depend on use of cattle in more ways than the normal income revenues. Down lower where you are is still incredibly difficult because the winters are just SO LONG up here in Montana! You truly have to understand how cattle ranching works before you decide to get into ranching. Thanks for sharing really good info!
@veramae4098
Жыл бұрын
Which is why so much alfalfa is grown out west, which is why so much water is sucked up from the LIMITED underground water sources. More than is being replaced. Get ready to get out of the cattle businres where you have to do that. This can't go on forever.
@artskiwendy
4 ай бұрын
UP THIS WAY..IN RED LODGE WHERE I LIVE....NOT A LIT OF CATTLE ANYMORE..THEY ARE FARMING HOUSES
This is so crazy to me. Our ranch in north Texas still has grass growing until late October/ early November.
@shaneh1003
Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@jeffc2630
Жыл бұрын
? You have a ranch, but didn't know that grass doesn't grow under snow? Or Montana is chilly?
One or two acres per cow in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. In the Valley and nearby valleys into West Virginia, Blue Ridge land, a lot of farming is growing hay for cattle out West.
Dont come to Tennessee it’s full😂
@cindy9032
Жыл бұрын
Don't come to NC either it's full too!!!
@MajorChipHazard1
Жыл бұрын
Not only is South Carolina full but theirs a bunch of pissed off saaquatches who got into a still and ate all the mash. They rampage and steal kids, pets and livestock at night. 0-10 don't recommend....and we have the highest state income tax in the south.
@Badger1776
Жыл бұрын
We’re buying land there next spring. But I promise you we share the same general beliefs if you’re saying that because we will still own land here in the soon to be commie land of Arizona. Floods of people moving here. You won’t even notice I’m there 😉
@cindy9032
Жыл бұрын
@@Badger1776 I guess we could make room for one more...😉
@ducnrun4659
Жыл бұрын
@@MajorChipHazard1 🇺🇸👍🏻 So highlarious!! Luv it! Ha! I caught days ago! Now I understand the Sasquatch thing! It means stay away! Ha!! Got it! Will do!🤪😉
I think Kentucky would be a great place to raise cattle. The grass here aggressively grows. The only thing about Kentucky is all the hills.
@davidmcgilvray4910
Жыл бұрын
Same here in western Virginia!
@tylerpippin7098
5 ай бұрын
I live in the Ozarks. The hills are great cattle country. Get 4x4 dont drive along steep hills drive up and down. You dont even need 4x4 if its not muddy
Code for "Don't come to Montana. Not worth it. Terrible place to raise good cows. They'll hate you when they are teenagers". 😁
@willhorting5317
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@meycoe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my thoughts too....STAY AWAY! Lol
@bradleymiller7375
4 ай бұрын
@@meycoego to Montana, Californians!
I lived around Eureka Montana for a spell, I dearly love the Rockies there...I live back in KY now. We had two farms in Kentucky plus I had grazing rights on another farm too. Now I'm retired, still live in the country , I'm seventy now.
@jeffc2630
Жыл бұрын
What's that got to do with the length of grazing times?
@galewinds7696
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffc2630 nothing.... the man had something he wanted to say.... so he said it.. that's ok with you isn't it....?
I keep it a 2 acres per cow and I’m in Ga. We focus as much on grass quality as we do the herd and it shows purchase time. But to make a living you have to have a lot of cows
i think about that here in PA alot of people have cattle and small properties because of longer growing season . but alot of farms are sold off for parking lots and warehouses for shipping and receiving products that are useless for feeding society. smh I'm gonna need my own farm soon. 🙄👍
He’s basically telling Californians to stay the fuck out of Montana, I talked to a couple from Montana and they said everyone moving there is completely wrecking their state, he even blamed the show Yellowstone, which I 100% agree
Where did you get that wool jacket?. Nice.
Didn’t know this. Here in the U.K. they just move cows from field to field until the grass grows back.
@BuckingFastard
Жыл бұрын
They still take into account how many per acre. That’s why they move them to allow grass to come back.
@cr4zyj4ck
Жыл бұрын
Its how the ranchers move herds in the United States too, if I have one hundred acres, I can divide that into sections. And let my four cows graze on one section, while the other sections grow grass. After the section the cows are on is depleted, I move my four cows to the next section. I still need one hundred acres to raise four cows, but the cows aren't actively grazing all one hundred acres the whole time, that would be irresponsible land management.
Washington state has become a nightmare. Montana is calling my name. Soo beautiful and peaceful. Couldn't do what you do but greatly appreciate it.
And remember folks... Montana winters are 10 months and we are full of Californians...
I learned something today.
Yep! Thanks John
Florida turns brown in the winter. Hibernation of plants starts in Nov and goes to March.
Trinity VandenTexas has spoken. Thank you.
That’s why I love Alabama
@murraycrichton2001
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you love your sister too.
@fivecrosses9040
Жыл бұрын
@@murraycrichton2001 of course he does
@5toolbreaks
8 ай бұрын
absolute ignorance ^
In oklahoma, we can run about 40 head on 70 acres and it depends where in the state your located, but you will typically pay through the ass for cleared grassland regardless
Year round, when i moved to tenn from cali its like a freakin jungle here
@MoonShadowRayne
Жыл бұрын
It usually does turn into a jungle when Californians move in.
@henryc7548
Жыл бұрын
@@MoonShadowRayne Classic!
😁😂🤣 I just chewed you out on the wolf video, and said this to you!! Not OK, or TX, not enough water in either. Dont have to go that far south either. Its 2;1. Dobt need grass year round. Winter we just switch over to hay, like you do. Michigan religiously gets 3 hay cuttings per year, but most often gets 4 or 5. TN too. My personal ranch is in Wyoming, but we have family ranches in MI and TN. I dont utilize my full 4000 acres , in WY, for ranching. (Tiny, puny, place compared to my neighbors, 90k, 136k, 126k, 360k BLM, Parks) About half of my place is working ranch, but that half includes my 20 acre garden, my chickens = another 5 acres ,and my home & 6 out buildings, so not even half. The other half, I just like altering the Earth, to make it do, what everybody said I couldn't be done in WY. Yes, I can, and do. Made it into a 2000 acre mini paradise, growing things that people said couldn't grow here. Like oak, maple, & fruit trees. Sweet grass. (The Elk love it too.) Back east, we've sold 1500lb rounds for $60 the last few years. 5 cuttings. Water... theres plenty over there. Rains often. JS. I just bought a couple small, neighbouring, properties in TN. 622 acres, and 631 acres. I can raise far more cattle there than I could even think about raising on my WY 4k place.
Good to know! I have wondered this many times
i think in Arkansas u need 3/4 of an acre per cow to make a living ranching- i think the mountains here have more beef cattle and the low lands are where the dairy cattle are- on my family land we raise 150 acres in hay the feed cattle- which we do sell to ranchers
Don't forget to figure in land price or lease per acre. Land is cheap in more arid locations, but takes more. Pencil it out.
As a fellow Montanan, great advice 😂😂😂
I’m in Alabama and you are absolutely right I got cows and the grass grows year round great video keep ranching
In Kentucky, I've always been told that I should figure one cow, per acre. We always had less cattle than we did pasture so we never had a problem with under grazing. I'd love to come out west and see how things run out there. I sure do appreciate u sharing tips with us. Always an interesting video and usually learn something each one I watch.
cool season, perennial grasses are super nutrition and respond well to grazing. MT weaning and 205 day adjusting weights are fantastic, and done with no creep feeding. Few know but MT is closed to non residents for the next 20 years ... check back often tho for updates.
good advice. thank you.
Good advice!
I live in northwest montana, we have 2 cow calf pairs, 14 goats and 3 pasture pigs, we have our property cross fenced for pasture, we can make enough hay for our animals and graze them on a little over 20 acres, depends on the year and location for how many acres per cow.
good info ♥️♥️
Yeah I'm from Georgia and that goes along with what a farmer told me one time if your ground is poor maybe two and a half acres per cow.
That’s interesting statistics. We own a 7000 acre ranch in coastal Northern California which is quite mountainous and we run 165 cow-calf (370 total).
Was a truly nice way to put it ! LOL !😂 you're clever!
Here in Tennessee 2 acres per cow for grazing and mowing the grass for hay.
They recommend 3 acres per cow , here in Southern Illinois.
If I lived where I had that view - I would never get work done. You've got the life!
in northern alberta it takes 1.5 acres per cow for grass and hay we only graze 5 mounths if we r lucky land price is 7000 per acre
Sorry from Alabama but we are required to have AT LEAST 1 acre per animal (horse or cow). And our grass is currently dormant until probably 1st part of March end of February.
Grandpa always suggested 3.5 acres to a pair, cow and her calf. That’s here in Kansas.
Here in Southern New Mexico, it's more like 60 acres unless you supplement. Tough dam way to make a living
@kaimetodd
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right. The chihuahuan desert is brutal. Might have two week growing season.
In northeastern NM, it's 11 acres per cow. People from back east don't get the west, north or south.
Protein content isn't the same in all grass. Cattle can starve to death on belly deep grass.
I'm a former Okie. The Sooner State has a WIDE variance of requirements for a cow/calf pair. It's over 500 miles from McCurtain to Cimmaron Counties. The latter, in the Panhandle's tail end (much of their land is school trust land and very trying for today's land lesees with a 5 year bid period!), generally requires nearly 40 acres because of the semi-desert, often dry climate and is over 4000' above sea level. The former is in the southeast end, bordered by the Red River and SW Arkansas and is mostly lowlands under 500' above sea level with some mountains, so rain is way more plentiful. Note though, there's been drought conditions earlier this year which affected that SE region, severe enough that many cattlemen had to sell portions or entire herds.
Seminole county, FL about 3 acres per cow due to swamps. Lots of swamps. So realistically 30-32 head per hundred acres
Glad my family raises beef in VA! Takes less land per head and is DELICIOUS!!!
So you're saying, being a rancher in a more moderate climate would be wiser
A dear friend with roots in OK, still owns part of a ranch on prime river bottom land, that supports a cow & a calf per acre!! He will hold it as a legacy for his two sons...
I grew up in louisiana and all the ranchers there have at least 10 cows/bulls per acre. Sometimes more.
Where I live in the cross Timbers region of Texas it’s about 15 acres per cow.
We always figured 3 acres per cow here, that included the hay ground as well.
Look up Greg Judy on KZread he does mob grazing and he was just in Arizona with a farm he just helped to get up and running and that farm does mob grazing.
Hell yeah Trinity as a fellow Native Montanan I like you’re strategy here the Ole Bait and switch keep them out of staters out state Lol! No jkng Does make sense to start out with land that can feed year round.
I live in tennessee, and we say 1 ½ acres per cow. But you'll probably need to feed hay for 3 or 4 months a year
2.5 acres in South western Kentucky We had 60 acres of pasture and 20 of hay for 32 cows with calves
Southern Mississippi is that way too. Grasses, vines, moss and weeds grows just about year round. In a month of growth, ur looking at 1-3 foot of growth.
I live in Western Washington. We don't get the cold and the snow that Montana does. Our growing season is a lot longer, but not year-round like in the South. I'm not sure on the growth cycle for pasture grass, but I know that we can mow for hay 2-3 times per year depending on the soil composition and the weather.
In Arkansas where I run cattle to do it right you need 4 acres per cow not to over graze
In Colorado, we get 2-3 cuttings of grass hay after June. Amazing that Montana doesn’t get grass growth during that time.
Here in the Ozarks its a cow an acre, sometimes more if you have nice bottom with lots of sediment that washed down from the hills. My grandpa has 55 head on 42 acres. Washington county arkansas used to have the highest stocking rate in the country at 300k head. Down to 95k from so much development and the rich folks coming to work for walmart, buying up land and buying a tractor just to mow all their land and call it a ranch😂
Did you all notice how he was sure pushing people to move anywhere BUT Montana 😂😂😂😂
I know a rancher in Montana with a few hundred head of cattle, you can't even see land he doesn't own from his buildings.
Average in the East, 2 acres per cow/calf unit. In the north, that 2 acres is pasture and hay. Here, Arizona, 57 acres. It's not so much the feed as available water. If you can irrigate a pasture, then you can put a lot of cows on an acre but move them several times a day.
I farm 22 acres in southern Arkansas and move my cows everyday. My paddocks are 1 acre each and I graze 30 cows on that and feed hay from the last week in November to mid February.
In Michigan I can turn sheep out around the 1st of May and graze until the winter when the snow is to deep for them to find grass. Some winters we don't have much snow so I can keep them out in the field until shearing time and then they want to be inside. After lambs are born and started, I turn them back out. I like having corn near by as well because after I pick ear corn I like to turn the sheep out on corn stubble for an hour or so each day. I have been experimenting with mob grazing and at this point I think could run about 50 sheep on for acres all summer or about a cow and a half per acre.
I'm not sure what the "official" amount is in Kansas. But I know that my dad always made sure to have 5 to 6 acres per cow/calf pair, year-round, plus feeding both brome bales and alfalfa bales during the cold months.
So everywhere I know of in Texas the standard rule is five acres per cow. Lotta scrub brush and it’s heating up. Santa gertruda and longhorn is all anyone I know runs down there.
Let’s not forget that when it’s not raining every other day down there you can dig a 30 foot hole and have more water than you know what to do with…
Great video!
I use to live on 387 acres a calf birth mountain. I loved it . Fields of trumpet swans. Coyotes bobcat ect. But I didn't farm.
It depends on your location. I live in Virginia and keep 20 head on 12 acres. Other places you’d need much more acreage for that same 20 head. Yes I feed hay all winter and a bit in the summer too
I live in South Texas and run 2 per acre. However, that being said, i also roataional graze with irrigation.
One acre per head in Oklahoma and Missouri. I try to keep mine to two acres per head. Gives me good separate pasture for my bull herd. But I have a smaller operation than you. I run around 145 to 160 on my Oklahoma 450 acres and about 600 head on my 1450 acres in Missouri. I have another 1500 acres in western Oklahoma I own and I lease another 2 sections or 1280 acres. I use my western Oklahoma place and lease for hay, wheat and milo. But, at 73, bout ready to turn it over to my kids and retire.
Yeah but here in missouri cost for an acre has gone up dramatically.
I've researched for so long the different states that would be good for homesteading, and you just read off about half my list lmfao guess I can throw away all of my research now 😂 Fr though, those pythons and gators in Florida aren't a joke. Good luck if you buy there everything else seems great except the sink holes and hurricanes but that's the east coast for ya lol
I do 1 acres a cow with rotational grazing. And on a really dry winter they get hay.
Look in to smaller paddocks and rotate frequently giving the land time to rest and you'll have a better grassland and won't have to supplement feed. Worth looking in to.
Moral of the story: "STOP trying to ranch in Montana! We're FULL!"
In the northeast, minimum of one acre per animal, unless it's a horse. Then it's two.
In South Carolina it a acre to 1-1/2 acres per cow on fescue and we usually get 3 solid cuttings per year.i have heard of 4 but it not that common
In Louisiana rule of thumb is 2 acres per head
Amazes me how large ranches survive in places that are horrible for herd sustainment
If I remember correctly, here in North Carolina it's about one cow per acre. We have lots of vegetation. Some winters it doesn't snow at all, others we may see 15 or 18 inches at one time. Whatever the weather or location, I love seeing cows grazing.
@OPPOSITE17708
Жыл бұрын
Is permit NC finished cows at barn only
So what you’re saying is: Don’t move here. 😉 Think I see where you’re going
@dreambeliever3652
Жыл бұрын
@Wade Wilson 😂. Yessem
What you need is a shelter for the winter.
My grandfather had 90-100 head in upstate New York with way more winter on a 300-320 acre farm.
25 acres a cow. Holy....cow.
Less acres per cow, but the land is more expensive I’ve been looking into this for a while. All I wanna do is Homestead and Montana is beautiful but land down south is expensive.
But I’m sure that the land costs a lot more per acre in those places.
25 acres per cow! Wow, That’s a lot of land to hide in!