How Long Will Treatment Trials Take? And Why is Research so Hard? | With Prof. Carmen Scheibenbogen

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This is the final film in a three part series where Dr Asad Khan and I talk to Professor Carmen Scheibenbogen from the University Hospital Charite in Berlin. She’s a long recognised expert in the field of ME/CFS, and has recently been researching patho-mechanisms and treatments in Long Covid.
In this film we talk about how long it might be before we can expect to see effective treatments getting through phase 2 and phase 3 trials, and why it is that getting this research done takes so long.
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Part 2:
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  • @charroberts9821
    @charroberts982111 ай бұрын

    Thank you Gez for this series! It’s good to know that there are still people out there working on help for us! I feel like I’ve spent a ton of money this year proving what my symptoms aren’t.

  • @stayathomegeek
    @stayathomegeek11 ай бұрын

    I got a blast of truth at 9:38. I now can accept that while I see other folks with PASC getting better, that might not be in the cards for my husband, as he more than meets the criteria for ME/CFS. I want to thank Dr. Scheibenbogen for stating her observation about this. Of course, there's always hope for the future, but we were hanging our hat on hearing about others who had recovered after a year or two. It's grief-inducing, but grieving is much easier when one knows what one is grieving over.

  • @smartgrandma
    @smartgrandma11 ай бұрын

    I have had ME/CFS for the past 30 years (ICC criteria), POTS, Fibromyalgia (since early childhood), Hashimotos Disease, Chronic Lyme disease (since the early 1980's), and Long Covid (from my 1st episode of getting Covid in 2020. I am 68 years old and have not been able to find a doctor that has any knowledge of any of this where I live in Spring Hill, Florida USA. So, it's not just a matter of when will there be any meds to treat Long Covid, ME/CFS, POTS, PEM etc., I don't have access to any doctors who is willing to educate themselves and be willing to take me on as a patient. Medical care is so horrendous here and the for profit hospitals are absolutely horrid.....not caring about their patients, nor their employees who are miserable....only caring about the almighty dollar. So this is all apart of the ugly picture for everyone in my shoes. I have been housebound and recliner/bedbound for over 9 years. Each time that I go to a medical appointment now (especially to an ER and hospital admittance) I become permanently worse. I have no doctor to turn to for help. This isn't living. It's merely existing and is a living death. I am only holding on by my fingernails in the hope that I will get some compassion and help someday.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    I am so sorry to hear all this :(

  • @renaissance5300

    @renaissance5300

    Ай бұрын

    I also have lyme and long hauler I will be contact my old lyme dr again as he shut down for covid I take many supplements which have helped will be looking into a dr in ct usa who helps chronicly ill people I hope you will find a cure for this horror I hope you will find yourself running walking and feeling joy again in your life! god bless i will pray for you

  • @Gusski84
    @Gusski8411 ай бұрын

    Thanks for putting this excellent three part series together Gez, such a refreshing contribution to the conversation... although it is indeed scary to think the timelines for LC/ME/CFS studies continue to be so protracted.

  • @multiversomental6893

    @multiversomental6893

    11 ай бұрын

    It is so frustrating :(

  • @deethompson3592
    @deethompson359211 ай бұрын

    Thank you Gez for another informative podcast - I can highly recommend your book - its my long covid bible. I have to say, after 3yrs I personally have plateaued re all my long covid symptoms. I genuinely don't think i will ever improve on where I am and thats not being all doom n gloom its more a case of acceptance and forging a head with a new way of being in life.The more you fight this thing the more frustrated you'll become leading to stress causing unnecessary fatigue ... This is what happens to me - I have limited tolerance for stress so i just try and - Let it go 🎈

  • @Richexperience1

    @Richexperience1

    11 ай бұрын

    3 years here also. I’m starting to make my way to your way of thinking. Been fighting to get back to where I was, but it causes stress and makes everything worse.

  • @deethompson3592

    @deethompson3592

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Richexperience1 I couldn't agree more - it's horrendous isn't it and we have to genuinely mourn for our previous lives but it's the only way forward - Thank God for Gezs podcasts and this community 🙏❤

  • @sofikat22

    @sofikat22

    11 ай бұрын

    I needed to hear this. I'm at 2.5y and accepting I need a wheelchair is the kind of positivity I need - not hoping I might make a full recovery some day, it's better to be happy and accepting of where you are now, not wishing away your life ❤

  • @CBEACH

    @CBEACH

    11 ай бұрын

    Have you tried ArtemiC Support kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGaftKmOpc6dh84.html Long Covid 30 day kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGaftKmOpc6dh84.html or Long- Covid 32 day combo treatment kzread.info/dash/bejne/daydxLVpnbO4f5c.html

  • @leannshort2211

    @leannshort2211

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Richexperience1Same here also! 😔😭 I am so horribly stressed over my condition. In my instance it’s MCAS and so I have food sensitivities/intolerances. Back and forth between low dose Prednisone and inhalers to help with my debilitating breathing issues now. Wake multiple times during the night to a feeling of an Elephant on my chest and breathing thru a tiny straw. Wheezing, hard to even take in a breath, so I guess that would be labored breathing. These are my worst symptoms. My husband and I were hiking mountains last year even tho I had already been sick with LC for over a year. I don’t know how I did it, but I’m definitely worse now even a year after that and can’t hike, can’t even go for walks anymore! 😭I’ve been sick now for 2.5 years. My husband recovered fully from Covid, I didn’t. He got a fever, I never did. I think that’s important to note also. Because I also have Chronic Lyme and I guess the bacteria hinder you from getting fevers so as your body is not able to kill it off! 😑

  • @carolenmarch7445
    @carolenmarch744511 ай бұрын

    Thanks to this womderful academic and her team rhe gao narrows for finding meaningful diagnistic gruopings for LC , diagnostic testing and pitential drug treatments . You now just need ti send your primary cate physician this video . Huge thanks to Prof Scheibenbogen and Gez ! 😊

  • @ThePoppy74
    @ThePoppy7411 ай бұрын

    AXA1125: Leucine - 1.00 gram Isoleucine: 0.50 gram Valine: 0.50 gram Arginine: 1.81 grams Glutamine: 2.00 grams N-Acetyl-Cysteine: 0.15 gram The first three can be found as BCAA in the correct ratio.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    Helpful - thank you!

  • @ThePoppy74

    @ThePoppy74

    11 ай бұрын

    Struggling to edit the above post for some reason. Subjects were given two x 33.9g doses of AXA1225 daily in the trials.

  • @Benq140

    @Benq140

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ThePoppy74 So howmuch BCAA does the 33.9g doses of AXA1225 equate to? (of the first three ingredients of course)

  • @brookem706
    @brookem70611 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much great video as usual. Isn’t there any way we can find to help push trials along? So frustrating!

  • @SuperKabookie
    @SuperKabookie11 ай бұрын

    I have a autoimmune disease and have had long Covid for the last seven months. I am desperate for help because it has taken away my cognitive abilities and gives me super anxiety as well. Numbness, weakness, and overall I just feel like I’m going to die. It’s awful and I hope treatment will become available sooon!

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    I’m so sorry to hear this Cheri :(

  • @beknight9399
    @beknight939911 ай бұрын

    Thank you again, Gez, Dr. Khan and Prof. Scheibenbogen. It would be nice to have an interview with Prof. Schieffer, University of Giessen/Marburg (Germany). He shows - in addition to Post-Covid - a lot of engagement to diagnose and treat Post-Vac sufferers. As cardiologist, he focusses RAAS. Very interesting.

  • @bassbaboon6589
    @bassbaboon658911 ай бұрын

    Having been hit really hard by Long Covid since my spell in intensive care with Covid in March 2020, I asked my doctor a couple of weeks ago if there had been any developments in reserach to assist with my lack of proper lung function and significant loss of cognitive funtion, he simply said, "No, long covid isn't a sexy subject anymore and the medical world has moved on." That's nice then.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s also frustratingly accurate

  • @nooryosef6916
    @nooryosef691611 ай бұрын

    I’m also from Germany, she said that before that we need like 2 years for research, but it was one year ago when she said it.

  • @simonpkershaw
    @simonpkershaw11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Carmen, I’ve watched quite a few of your presentations, thanks for continueing to have an enquiring mind

  • @mrfunkyman6860
    @mrfunkyman686011 ай бұрын

    It's funny she mentioned an amino acid because amino acids are the only I found that helped my fatigue. When I forget to take them for a few days, the fatigue comes back, not quite as bad as it was when I first had it but it's still very debilitating. I use full spectrum amino acids.

  • @taragunn9400

    @taragunn9400

    11 ай бұрын

    Love amino acids. Mine focus on anxiety and heart palpitations. Taurine. But do your own research of course

  • @luisevieten2035
    @luisevieten203511 ай бұрын

    There is one thing I dont understand or what makes me very bitter. For HIV so many Galas and concerts were performed to rais money why not for the Long Covid Me/cfs crowd?

  • @mbug7973

    @mbug7973

    11 ай бұрын

    Because no one cares about us. Sad but true. Most doctors think we are simulants or psychos. I developed post-vac with me/CFS 2 years ago, and believe me, most doctors do not realize that this is actually an illness with physiological cause.

  • @jackholloway1

    @jackholloway1

    11 ай бұрын

    It took years to be fair

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    Because ME/CFS only kills you metaphorically.

  • @mbug7973

    @mbug7973

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 People die from ME/CFS! Either directly from it because they are in the very severe stadium and the body completely shuts down, or as a consequence of the increased risk of having a stroke, heart attack, cancer, etc. And let's not forget the many people that commit suicide because they can't cope anymore with the hell they are living in and the lack of medical support. You should have asked Carmen about that. Death from ME/CFS is a reality.

  • @AlbaLynxQueen

    @AlbaLynxQueen

    11 ай бұрын

    I think because there is a test for HIV, and LC and ME are always doubted to be "all in your head".

  • @bell4textu973
    @bell4textu97311 ай бұрын

    Well done Gez! ❤

  • @vamtube1
    @vamtube111 ай бұрын

    Thanks Gez and Asad for this great interview series! I´m wondering if the increase in anti-b adrenergic receptors might be a compensatory effect of lower perfusion due to microclots. That would explain why symptoms return after a few months. Probably combining antibody immunoadsorption and triple anti-coagulant therapy would do the trick.

  • @protocode_227
    @protocode_22711 ай бұрын

    What's the article or paper in the german physician Journal, which is recommended to take to your doctor?

  • @user-ds2bz3hn5z
    @user-ds2bz3hn5z11 ай бұрын

    Thanks again for another great mini-series. Great to meet you last weekend at Cheltenham Science Festival - a fantastic 'talk' raising awareness. And they say never meet your heros, but in this case it was that definitely wasn't the case. 😊

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    Haha, that’s very kind of you Rachel! Was great to meet you too ☺️

  • @user-ds2bz3hn5z

    @user-ds2bz3hn5z

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 Apologies for the 'gushing'! 🤣

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    @@user-ds2bz3hn5z that’s alright, wouldn’t have described it as that! :)

  • @user-ds2bz3hn5z

    @user-ds2bz3hn5z

    11 ай бұрын

    😅

  • @barryjohn6101

    @barryjohn6101

    11 ай бұрын

    There is already a treatment for long covid it's called self employment.

  • @hollyeverhart9348
    @hollyeverhart934811 ай бұрын

    Thanks Gez for you're continued hard work and all the people out here working hard to find a cure . Us people really appreciate it , it's refreshing to know there is at least people that understand what's going on and not blind sided to it like alot of these doctors are . I've been to numerous amounts of doctors I just gave up , is there anything over the counter we can buy to help reduce the inflammation in the throat and in the chest ? I've went to a low histamine diet hoping it helps some . ❤️❤️

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    I’d try H1 and H2 antihistamines if you haven’t already?

  • @hollyeverhart9348

    @hollyeverhart9348

    11 ай бұрын

    @Gez Medinger what antihistamines do you use ? I've tried Allegra D and pepcid but feels like Allegra D isn't working very well . Thank Gez I appreciate you so much ❤️

  • @geneticainferior2494

    @geneticainferior2494

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@hollyeverhart9348I had some improvement taking Hydroxyzine.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hollyeverhart9348 I’m on fexofenadine and famotidine :)

  • @hollyeverhart9348

    @hollyeverhart9348

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 thank you so much ! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @BestCoachOnEarth
    @BestCoachOnEarth11 ай бұрын

    thx for your great work ! Are there any news about enzymes like nattokinase, serrapeptase? I remember there should be a trial running.

  • @melanieolmsted6740
    @melanieolmsted674011 ай бұрын

    Very timely subject for me, oy!

  • @bluescrew3124
    @bluescrew312411 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @jaynesierakowska3120
    @jaynesierakowska312011 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your videos. I struggled to hear what drugs the Professor said existed to help ME/CFS? I listened several times but couldnt make it out. Are you able to help please?

  • @llamazoo8724

    @llamazoo8724

    11 ай бұрын

    I heard Mestanon, ivabradine, abilify & low dose naltrexone.

  • @jaynesierakowska3120

    @jaynesierakowska3120

    11 ай бұрын

    @@llamazoo8724 Many thanks for that Llama.

  • @TheSelflessVibe

    @TheSelflessVibe

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@llamazoo8724 low dose abilify

  • @katemclachlan2508
    @katemclachlan250810 ай бұрын

    Ive had strong symptoms of bloodflow issue in hands and feet throughout with ‘covid-toe’ even in summer in hands and feet as well as me/cfs, OI, POTS, MCAS etc. Propanolol has helped. I just wonder whether propanolols influence on b2 adernergic receptors might have interrupted/interfered with the autoantibodies on these same receptors? I feel excited to maybe know the mechanism behind why this is helping rather than just being grateful it is.

  • @kathyhaering3460
    @kathyhaering346011 ай бұрын

    GENETICS RESEARCH? Thank you so so much both Gez and Carmen! I'd be really interested to know more about how genes play into all of this. I have had my genes sequenced and done a lot of research into it and am finding a lot of clues as to why I, as opposed to others, was afflicted with LC. Perhaps something to get your teeth into if you haven't burnt out completely by now. Take care of yourselves.

  • @nyrreal8764

    @nyrreal8764

    11 ай бұрын

    Which genes do you think?

  • @luisevieten2035
    @luisevieten203511 ай бұрын

    An other question for Gez would be, what do you think of the FLCCC long Covid Suggestion for Treatments ? Greatings from Cologne !

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks Luise!

  • @maryscarpa229
    @maryscarpa2292 ай бұрын

    My worse symptom is nausea and vomiting I take anti nausea med other symptoms like headaches heart palpitations which have slowed down dizziness and fatigue I have to pace because if I do to much when I feel a little better I end up crashing with all symptoms any suggestions for the nausea.?

  • @andtheflyinglizard
    @andtheflyinglizard11 ай бұрын

    thank you Gez

  • @hal511bm
    @hal511bm11 ай бұрын

    Hello and good day. If a disease worse than HIV/AIDS were to come along how would it compare to COVID/Variants please ?

  • @BB-pn2qv
    @BB-pn2qv11 ай бұрын

    Hope soon

  • @kathleenbren1523
    @kathleenbren152311 ай бұрын

    Reminds when they first were able to use germ theory, microscopes to find the different causes of lung disease that were originally all under " consumption".

  • @kapaul1584
    @kapaul158411 ай бұрын

    What drug are they trialing?

  • @baileystruss7319
    @baileystruss731911 ай бұрын

    Ashamed that we have to be our own guinea pigs. Im currently self trying low dose doxycycline at 25mg every other day. Since it can calm microglial over activation without affecting gut microbiome.

  • @nyrreal8764

    @nyrreal8764

    11 ай бұрын

    I used 200mg two times a day. Only this helped me ...

  • @baileystruss7319

    @baileystruss7319

    11 ай бұрын

    But thats an entirely different mechanism than what im trying to accomplish. Im not trying to kill bacteria.

  • @nyrreal8764

    @nyrreal8764

    11 ай бұрын

    @@baileystruss7319 What are you trying? Thnx.

  • @baileystruss7319

    @baileystruss7319

    11 ай бұрын

    ..Trying to reduce neuro inflammation. Specifically microglial immune over activation. There is some research that low dose doxy or mino can help.

  • @nyrreal8764

    @nyrreal8764

    11 ай бұрын

    @@baileystruss7319 But 25mg is too low I think :/

  • @leopoldofregoli3817
    @leopoldofregoli381711 ай бұрын

    Speaking of Antihistamins, Gez are you still on those? What protocol are you actually following?

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes I’m still taking H1 and H2. No specific protocol

  • @cordyone
    @cordyone4 ай бұрын

    what was the amino acid trial she mentioned?

  • @MichaelMerritt

    @MichaelMerritt

    Ай бұрын

    AXA1125

  • @epicchannel4724
    @epicchannel472411 ай бұрын

    So if antibodies are potentially a problem, could currently circulating less virulent versions still cause a higher negative effect by stimulating higher levels of those same antibodies?

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s autoimmunity that’s the issue - not the antibodies made to combat sars cov 2 infection

  • @epicchannel4724

    @epicchannel4724

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 I might be mistaken but don't a number of autoimmune conditions involve antibodies attacking the human body? Lupus for instance.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    @@epicchannel4724 that’s exactly what they do. Point being these are not the same antibodies created to tackle the initial infection (although lupus generally not infection triggered)

  • @epicchannel4724

    @epicchannel4724

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 I had believed that part of the problem was that the spike protein had areas that resemble human protein creating antibodies that attack those areas. I have read resemble that claims that it particularly had protein resemblance with protein found in female Uterus and placenta. You may remember the mass reports of women on mass reporting period problems. Also we have studies showing antibodies induced by synthetic spike causing MS. The WHO actually published those cases.

  • @nyrreal8764
    @nyrreal876411 ай бұрын

    Is some video about reactivation latent infections/ viruses? I think is very important part of Long Covid. I know hundreds people and they have reactivated Lyme, EBV, CMV, chlamydia, HSV1/2 etc....

  • @radicr

    @radicr

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, I have EBV reactivated but there is no treatment for that either. At least not here where I live

  • @barkingsquirrel7166

    @barkingsquirrel7166

    11 ай бұрын

    What about acyclovir?

  • @nyrreal8764

    @nyrreal8764

    11 ай бұрын

    @@barkingsquirrel7166 Did you try it?

  • @kateroyston9416

    @kateroyston9416

    11 ай бұрын

    Are these symptoms recurring in “vaccinated” individuals?

  • @nyrreal8764

    @nyrreal8764

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kateroyston9416 both. So yes.

  • @EnockEzra
    @EnockEzra10 ай бұрын

    This gives me a tiny iota of hope. Also thanks to everyone involved, from myself, personally. Sad I've been so unwell, that I am way behind on this channel.

  • @mikejalcock
    @mikejalcock11 ай бұрын

    Gez, I'm curious, how's your long covid recovery going?

  • @FirstnameLastname-pe5ib

    @FirstnameLastname-pe5ib

    11 ай бұрын

    Been 10 months. Overall, a lot better but still have slightly high inflammatory markers which lead to more aches & pains & seemingly higher risk of injury, despite being relatively young.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    Slower than I’d like

  • @digger663

    @digger663

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@RUNDMC1 what are your most troubling symptoms still if I can ask? Thx

  • @mindymontez9013

    @mindymontez9013

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@FirstnameLastname-pe5ibwhat symptoms do u still have

  • @mindymontez9013

    @mindymontez9013

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@RUNDMC1hi Gez, what symptoms do u still have

  • @cristianserious
    @cristianserious11 ай бұрын

    So at the moment is a big problem with getting everyone in a matrix of a diagnostic for proper treatment. Multiple mechanism give the same disorder but different treatment.

  • @GeorgeMonaghan
    @GeorgeMonaghan11 ай бұрын

    Amazing how quick it was to get a vaccine researched and into people's arms. If only we had waited and done all the normal checks!

  • @bruceharkness4497

    @bruceharkness4497

    10 ай бұрын

    Not quick at all. Research on that was started in the 1960s.

  • @GeorgeMonaghan

    @GeorgeMonaghan

    10 ай бұрын

    @@bruceharkness4497 MRNA was first experimented on in 1987 in what was described as a "molecular stew." Used in animals for some years now but not humans until Covid 19. It had been the hope of big pharma to find a "human" use for all the research and Covid 19 provided that opportunity. Those who refused the "vaccine" I think probably dodged a bullet.

  • @perpetualincomeearner8015

    @perpetualincomeearner8015

    8 ай бұрын

    On Coronavirus tho?

  • @topchic7475

    @topchic7475

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes! And with the premise that they were ‘saving lives’ !!! If only they were as keen now to throw billions of taxpayers hard earned cash into this research! Fundamentally to doing the same thing… save people’s lives!

  • @nelgoncalvesgoncalves3508

    @nelgoncalvesgoncalves3508

    Ай бұрын

    For bigfarma quik vacines,quik money.......

  • @multiversomental6893
    @multiversomental689311 ай бұрын

    So basically AXA1125 could be ready in about a year or some more? I was hoping the timeline was gonna be faster 😢

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    You can make your own version of the amino acids combination - just look up the specific ones and quantities used. It’s definitely been discussed on twitter

  • @multiversomental6893

    @multiversomental6893

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh ok I will try. I mean if the studies so far show that it works, it is worth trying

  • @multiversomental6893

    @multiversomental6893

    11 ай бұрын

    I didnt find the thread on twitter but I will look up de composition of axa1125

  • @timoluetk
    @timoluetk9 ай бұрын

    Push!

  • @user-em1nn4nv7j
    @user-em1nn4nv7j6 ай бұрын

    What do you do when you are so severe you can't risk visiting the doctor ? To them, there is a real risk of triggering such a brutal crash that, it would not just worsen symptoms, but lower their energy envelope permanently... literally, for the rest of their lives!

  • @rp011051
    @rp01105111 ай бұрын

    if the politicians donot take the lead and remain captured by the pharma industry, pray for the people who will continue to suffer from long covd.

  • @eltercalpar
    @eltercalpar11 ай бұрын

    IVM

  • @agathahofmann6977
    @agathahofmann69779 ай бұрын

    oxazepam and physical therapy

  • @jackf8450
    @jackf845011 ай бұрын

    She said a lot of people are recovering. Feel like it's half at most.

  • @RUNDMC1

    @RUNDMC1

    11 ай бұрын

    When there’s 150 million people worldwide with LC, half is a lot!

  • @Turtledove2009

    @Turtledove2009

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 Insane to imagine that number, eh?

  • @LostNspace94

    @LostNspace94

    10 ай бұрын

    @@RUNDMC1 Yeah but what about RELAPSING from re-infection? Randomly relapse not reported or recorded? How do you determine true recovery?

  • @christopherfields6704
    @christopherfields670410 ай бұрын

    🤘 Promo*SM

  • @michaelshoemaker8440
    @michaelshoemaker844011 ай бұрын

    Nothing new same old same old

  • @Analoguedialog

    @Analoguedialog

    11 ай бұрын

    It's getting that way isn't it. More research needed... Been three years. If an asteroid was coming to wipe us all.put they would have a solution very quickly

  • @LostNspace94
    @LostNspace9410 ай бұрын

    In other words, very little to nothing is being done. And pharmaceutical corporations are not interested in pursuing due to the lack of profit revenue & investment pay off. Long story short. We will continue to suffer with no legitimate help. Thanks for the videos though, you all are good people.

  • @CBEACH

    @CBEACH

    10 ай бұрын

    I had a strong case of Longcovid with fatigue😂 but after using the ArtemiC Rescue and Support combo treatment it has completely gone away.

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