I've done this test at my home with a similar size refrigerator. My 1.5Kw hour Jackery lasted a lot longer than the Patriot (48hrs). What this tells me is to really look at the efficiency rate of the solar generator you purchase.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

good points for sure.

If 4Patriots had a quality product and wanted the world to know about that they would send it to reputable KZreadrs to review who had also reviewed other solar generators, like EcoFlow, Bluetti, Jackery, etc and so comparisons can be done between the offerings. But 4Patriots REFUSES to do so which is ALL you need to know about them.

@PIZZA-ex1fy

Жыл бұрын

Very true. You can do much better and cheaper.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

just fyi no manufacturers allow you to compare to other brands, they just want an independent review. Now, if you are not being sponsored and you purchase the rigs, you can do whatever you want.

@thetnpickers

Жыл бұрын

This is not even a generator. It’s a rechargeable battery.

@southtexasprepper1837

Жыл бұрын

It's not incumbent upon 4Patriots to do that comparison. It's up to Consumer Groups (such as "Consumer Reports") to do such comparisons. If you wish to do so, then that's on your dime. The best way to conduct comparison reviews is to independently purchase the items and do a comparison. That way, no one can be accused of making a bias review. Btw, how would you classify as "reputable KZreadrs?" My definition is that they purchase the item independently, do a review, and give their opinions. If a company sends an item to be reviewed, it should be said upfront and made clear to the company that an honest, independent review will be taken place.

@danielsolano1284

11 ай бұрын

City prepping channel does a comparison of solar generators check it out

Thanks Joe, I keep seeing the ads for this solar generator. The fridge is the only thing that concerns me. So this test was spot on for us. We have a Jackery 240 that runs our mini fridge for camping 11 hours at 70 degrees. I charge it with solar or house power. Something is better than nothing these days.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, power just went out again yesterday here. Neighbor dropped a tree on a line, lol. I think it was like 5 or 6 hours. Good info, have a great weekend!

@ronbridegroom8428

Жыл бұрын

I am sure that you paid FAR less for the Jackery than what this company wants

The key to this real life test is all the carefully modeled openings for drinks etc... Very realistic test! :):)

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

lol that makes it totally real! Especially here on our farm! :)

Cool, I'm glad my mother was the one who spent the money on this unit

I live in S Florida and after going through several hurricanes (including Ian) over the years, I’ve pretty much decided on purchasing a solar generator. The fridge would likely be my number one appliance to keep running. I would definitely want a pass through model, so I can use a solar panel to recharge while drawing down the battery.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck, it is nice to have at least some peace of mind. In FL the solar panels will charge much better than Northern states in the winter. Best of luck!

You are a very thoughtful man. Great video.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! Thanks

Interesting informative video 👍

Isn't the theory of only needing to run the fridge / freezer only ten minutes an hour debunked by the fact the fridge/freezer unit will only run as needed. Their should be no power usage by the unit until it is needed. This generator can extend the content life of whats inside the fridge/freezer by keeping the doors closed and running every couple of hours but the fact is a btu is a btu is a btu. You can't expect to go in and out of the fridge getting drinks and only run this for 10 minutes and hour and get days of use out of the charge.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

good points for sure. Although I do think that the food would still survive if you had to save power and run it this way, might not be as 'cool' as we'd like, but don't think it would go bad. I totally get what you are saying. Maybe a better way might be to turn the temp down in the fridge during emergencies. Thanks have a good one

I'm in the process of sending mine back. It was charged when I got it. It worked for the 3 minutes I tested it. Put it back up the way I received it and the other day did a simulation power failure. Pulled it out, turned it on and it showed full power. Turned on the outlets, plugged in a small device, turned on the device and the bars on the generator battery went straight to zero and it shut down. NOT reliable to be ready when you need it. I plugged it back in to charge it and it never took another charge. If you got one, understand, it just may not work when you NEED it. Good luck.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that! But they are man made and a machine of sorts. Best of luck I hope they replace or fix it for you! I've had quite a bit of use out of mine so far.

@BenHuttash

Жыл бұрын

My friend just gave me one he found in the trash and asked if I can fix it for him. Same problem as yours, it won’t charge and I won’t even turn on.

@edwardkamenar1493

Жыл бұрын

@@BenHuttash I'm sorry to hear that. I can say from my experience with those and the reviews on them that they aren't good. But their customer service and their survival foods I find to be excellent.

@edwardkamenar1493

Жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors So far I've sent it back but still have not seen the refund into my bank account. It's been over a week and a half already.

@bernswonger57

10 ай бұрын

I got one of these things, and plugged my 1360 watt sunjoe power washer into it and ran it for 30 mins, and it still has 28% batt life left. Oh one side note mine is a bluetti AC180.

Thx bro

Thank you for the review.. will go check them out..👍

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Thank you have a great weekend! Happy Friday!

Eco flow jackery they sell a cheaper and bigger battery then 4 patriots. But in the end that's who I would buy from if I was spending 2k to 3k on a solar system

Try hooking the one you have up to a 110v air compressor and a electric circular saw and see if it powers them up and how long it lasts?? (It may take one with 2500 watts) Heck you might want to bring it out in the woods to use power tools and air compressors to build a deer tower.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I have used a few power tools on it, but not for a ton of use to really test it out. Regardless backup is always good :)

Nice video, was thinking of getting a 500wh one but it's not gonna cut it 😆, guess better look at a 1000wh minimum.

@kapperoutdoors

8 ай бұрын

Good choice! Best of luck, it is always good to have a few backup plans.

Your review is the Only one that I will trust about this Solar Generator! I've Watched the channel for many moons 😁

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated! We keep it real as best we can!!

Excellent video! What indoor generator will run an average fridge the longest? Are there any that run a fridge for weeks or months?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

There are so many models available you have to do some more homework, thanks a lot good luck

Remember, when you extrapolate, that its not including the start-up electricity

Nice Review. Joe would you prepare and taste test some of the food without Sharon’s help for to see?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I've had a package of their pancake mix for over a month now to do just that! I just have to get around to it! Have a good weekend bud thanks.

@garytrawinski1843

4 ай бұрын

It's not really a review, it's a infomercial for 4Patriots. I bought a unit from a different company (Dabbsson) with almost 7 times the battery capacity for $2379 which is less than this piece of crap sold for. A real review would show how this unit compares to other units from the competition. This "review" is useless.

@bretts1

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@garytrawinski1843 For $2379.00. You should have bought a real generator.

The generator does a good job to run a full size side by side refrigerator for 8 - 9 hours.

@ronbridegroom8428

Жыл бұрын

Whoopi, you can get high quality solar generators that will do this for FAR LESS. Do not be fooled.

@trulyblessed8767

Жыл бұрын

​@@ronbridegroom8428 name one then since you are so negative on this one

@A.C.71

8 ай бұрын

@@ronbridegroom8428 Drop a few names of these systems you refer to or you're just another pointless comment that means nothing.

@adrenalinsam

4 ай бұрын

​@@trulyblessed8767 ​ @trulyblessed8767 JACKERY.... Do your own research

I have a freezer I need it for, so how do I know if this 1800 generator will accommodate the freezer I have

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Can't say for certain, but I'd think it would be a similar outcome as this was a fridge/freezer combo..

I paid $450 for a gas 2kw inverter generator, it runs 9 hours over 50% load on less than 1 gallon and over 12 hours if load is under 50% sound is 41db so not very loud only takes a minuet or 2 to refill not dependant on sunlight or wall AC power, it will run a 1,500 watt electric heater and refrigerator and a TV with a couple LED lights all night, when it runs out of fuel refill it and good to go for another 9 to 12 hours. I have a Northern Lights Diesel 15kw for full house power if power is out for more than a day or 2.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are well prepared and we have virtually the exact same setup as you. The only difference is the whole home generator is LP because it does not have a shelf life. Thanks

Do you have any bigger ones available

👍

Anyone else find it ironic that it's made in China and sold by a company called 4patriots

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Well that is quite common for many companies.. I sure wish we'd bring back manufacturing to the US!

Can you do a test with solar units hooked up? How long would this work for?

@kapperoutdoors

5 ай бұрын

I meant to but never got around to it. But it would at least increase the power time just can't say how much.

I have the same system. Can you run a 300watt 24v panel off of this rather than adding 3 folding 100w panels?

@kapperoutdoors

9 ай бұрын

Sorry im not an electrician so i don't know the answervto that one

If you only need to run the fridge for 10 minutes every hour, you could get 45 minutes of solar charging during the off cycle. This would seriously extend your available energy.

@kapperoutdoors

28 күн бұрын

Yep good point! Nice to have back up plans in place!

How many watts does the test refrigerator use?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Don't know that, just kept this a very basic and real life examination. Thanks

Something like this would be good for short term power outages as most are. Except when natural disasters hit (hurricane & tornado season for example). Then you'll need something with more endurance. I have an 8kw generator that runs 9 hrs at 50% load on 7.5 gal gas (longer with lighter loads). I keep 10 gal of gas on standby if needed. Total run time is 17.5+ hrs; long after a solar charger has timed out.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

agreed 100%. We also have a full home generator that we converted to LP. Has come in handy for as many outages as we have here. Thanks have a good one.

good review how long do these things last before you have throw them away.3 years ?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Good question, I think in their specs they outline how many charges they will take. But off hand I don't know, thanks

@bernswonger57

10 ай бұрын

Most of these things with lifepo4 batt. chemistry, claim around 3000 cycles from 0 to 100% so what like 8 yrs. But that brings it down to 80% capacity, so at that point a 1000wh batt would be 800watt hour batt. It continues to decline after that, so I'm guessing 12 to 15 yrs

@garytrawinski1843

4 ай бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors Maybe a little reseach before putting out this 4Patriots infomercial would help answer these questions?

I have this one and it sucks. Does not last. Drains the battery right away. It lasted maybe a couple of hours. Takes all day to charge by the panel.

@patlittle2537

Жыл бұрын

That was my question too. How long does a 100w panel take to recharge it???

@melody2unes

Жыл бұрын

@@patlittle2537 more than 10hrs

@bernswonger57

10 ай бұрын

Have you contacted them to inquire about returning it? They have a 1yr no questions ask return policy

@melody2unes

10 ай бұрын

@@bernswonger57 no because it is past the year.

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@kapperoutdoors

7 ай бұрын

There are a lot of options, which is why competition is good!

So, let me ask you this. If you were spending your own money, would you buy the 4Patriots product over the compettion? Why?

@kapperoutdoors

3 ай бұрын

These kind of products are changing very rapidly! So you have to do your own homework on specs. And of course when things go on sale. My main point is to be prepared the best you can with backup power and food! Thanks

Where is the link showing? How much this is?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the link is in the video description.?

How long does it take for the Generator to become fully charged by solar energy only? Days, weeks, months?

@adairw

Жыл бұрын

Math... this unit has a 768Wh capacity battery in it. If you have 100 watts of solar it would take 7.68 hours to charge it. If you have more solar (say 200 watts) it would take 3.84 hours. Obviously the efficiency of the panels and the amount of direct sun you have will also play in to the variables.

@michaelbest7872

Жыл бұрын

@@adairw Thank you for your view. The efficiency of the panels may be the reason. Why I'm asking, is I'd like to purchase this generator, but I'm reluctant based upon another product sold by 4 Patriots. It's their Patriots Power Cell. First, it DOES recharge my I-phone, but only when the Power Cell is fully charged. And the only way the power cell gets charged is if I plug it in to an electrical outlet to charge it. The solar panel does charge, but this unit (I bought 4), does not get even close to being fully charged by solar only. I can put this unit in the window, facing the sun for hours, days, weeks and months continuously and still this unit does not fully charge. So, I'm skeptical about how long REALLY the generator will take to fully recharge by solar alone. I appreciate your math answer and how it's "supposed" to respond, and time to recharge scientifically and based on variables, but that really doesn't answer my question. By your thinking, this unit SHOULD be fully charged in about 8 hours of direct sunlight in an optimum setting. DOES it, though? That's what I want to know, before I buy it. I'd like someone to do a video, putting the solar panel recharge to a test. How long does it take to fully recharge this unit, by solar alone? Do you know, or do you know of any other video's that have tested this? Thanks.

@bcole3442

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbest7872 Get a real gasoline generator,that actually has some true sustained high amperage output. This thing will be lucky to charge a cellphone,in winter,when the sun looks like a distant candle,if it's even out.

@michaelbest7872

Жыл бұрын

@@bcole3442 Thanks also for your advice. Do you speak from personal experiences with this 4 Patriots generator? I plan on buying a gasoline generator very soon. I was also hoping to have a backup generator as well, but I want it to be reliable and perform the way the company claims that it does.

@bcole3442

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbest7872 No,I don't touch solar crap. I'm a mechanic.Gasoline is true power. Those weak little solar "generators" are all the same. Here's the test,try and run your microwave (1,200 Watt draw/10 Amp) with that fully charged " generator" ( BTW,notice none of these solar salesmen are doing that,for obvious reasons) that was probably plugged into the wall,to charge it,because the solar panel would take all day,and that's if the sun is beating down non stop on it🙃 You're basically buying a 12 Volt Deep cycle boat battery ($110 at Walmart)+ some problematic Chinese inverter/ controller,and a super weak 100 watt panel,for $800 +++$$$. You can buy 2 Champion 30 Amp gasoline generators,for that kind of $$$. Which,at 2 am,in January,in a blizzard up north,are going to run for days straight,if needed,putting out high amperage,true electric power. These tiny solar"generators" are just like racing a Corvette around the Indy 500 track,with a horse+ buggy. Sure,the 1 horsepower buggy "may" eventually cross the finish line,but the laughter from the stands,is a tough way to go ...😂😃🙃😃😳😆

Real world, I'd our power goes out I wait 4 hours without opening refrigerator or freezer. Then I run the generator for an hour to cool them back down. I take out anything I need at the beginning of that hour. Then shut the generator off for 4 hours. Though not solar, the concept is the same for long term.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yep you've got a good plan for outages! I even opened the fridge much more than need be on this test.. It was 'one of those days..' so I needed a bunch or refills! :0 Can't go wrong thinking ahead! Thanks man

Anyone thinking of purchasing this,,,,,, PLEASE do your research.

I bought a new 2000x witch is more powerful than the one you have solar panels came with it also now it was expensive!!

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

yeah this stuff ain't really cheap that's for sure! Best of luck, hope we never need it!!

1eco flow delta pro and 2 eco flow delta extra smart battery (10,8) KWH test it out on youtube

Something's fishy here. I don't think refrigerators run continuously. I'm gonna spend $2500 to get up every hour to shut the Patriot thing off for days? Some people have a refrigerator and a chest freezer that cuts the usage time in half right? My food spoils while the solar panel strains to try to recharge this thing huh in bad weather and night?

I ordered mine September 17 Can’t get phone number to call only email Automated reply 😢

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that, hope the power does not go out before then! But is it a worldwide phemon.. Many shortages going on.. Best of luck thanks

That could come in real handy one of these days. Why suffer needlessly?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

If there is one thing that I have learned in life it's that planning ahead may not pay you back often.. But when it does, it pays you back 100 fold! Have a good weekend bud thanks.

I read the comments and someone said the generator is made in China?

jesus bro. chill with the soda lmao. nice video but damn whatchya drink a 2 liter a day? i’ve heard it keeps the doctor away.

I'm from a Philippines, and i ask you to how to order po

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

There are links in the description of this video to order. Best of luck

I'm trying to order a solar generation 2 for 1

@garytrawinski1843

4 ай бұрын

It's still a ripoff.

None of these solar generators are designed to run inductive loads like refrigerators, power tools, microwaves, air compressors or motors because they employ low cost, high frequency transformerless inverters in their design. High frequency solar generators might be able to start and run some of these inductive loads when their new but high frequency, transformerless solar generators provide a very limited surge capacity and their MOSFETs can actually be damaged every time the inductive load is turned on. I know this to be true after running a factory authorized inverter repair shop for the past 23 years. High frequency inverters simply don't last in real world applications. So the answer is "yes" you can run a refrigerator/freezer with an 1800 Watt solar generator, but not for very long beyond its warranty period. Their MOSFETs simply can't take the abuse caused by repeated high surge loads like a fridge. A far better choice is to spend a little extra money and invest in a low frequency, transformer based solar generator instead. You'll be much happier in the end.

@kapperoutdoors

10 ай бұрын

Interesting information. Like many things in our economy people have to make the best choices for the cost of things they can afford. I'm sure most people (myself included) would love to be totally self sufficient with energy but it can cost a fortune to do so permanently. So we make the best choices we can with what is available in our price range. But I don't doubt anything you are saying. Thanks

How much?

@kapperoutdoors

7 ай бұрын

Not sure but there is a link in the description you might get a discount?

So that generator does have a 240 volt plug 🔌 in? 🤔😮 most fridges require that type of plug

@ralphsmith8350

11 ай бұрын

"Most" refrigerators are 120V, with standard 120v plug.

@wl6279

11 ай бұрын

The better fridges are 240 volts, just like the air conditioner units, 240 volt units are the better units for premium cooling

@dbagandsongarage

11 ай бұрын

@@ralphsmith8350 in other countries 240v is the standard, they don't use 120v

So roughly 9 hours. I will pass, my BLUETTI has proven to last full charge on refrigerator for 12 hours at a time.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of variables and lots of manufacturer's. That's the great part of America! Glad yours works well for you thanks

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

lol there is a bluetti commercial running now :)

you know its just a battery and a power inverter you can use a car battery and a cheap power inverter and get the same use for a fraction of the cost the patriots are like $2999.00 you paying patriot for putting batteries and power inverter in a plastic box for $3000. thats ridiculous and waste of money!!! and you can get the car battery and inverter for around$300.00 THEY BOTH DO THE SAME THING!!! don't waste your money on these gimmicks!!!

@garytrawinski1843

4 ай бұрын

You are also paying for their marketing (I bet their marketing cost are through the roof).

I have done 4 years of research on these things. That one is a POS and stop with the scary BS

@bcole3442

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.This solar Pimping by these channels is hilarious 😂

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Whatever man. People in this country have no idea how bad it could get. Nothing wrong with being prepared. The unit works fine as intended

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

The scary BS is very real. Nothing wrong with being prepared and never having to use it. It's when the shtf and people are not prepared that is the problem. Just let the power go out in a big city for a few days in 100 degree heat and see how many people get hurt or worse. Thanks

@bcole3442

Жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors The really scary part,of that grid down scenario,is if they are relying on a tiny 3 Amp for a half hour,solar "generator" in December 🙃 And that's if it's been charged fully,in the wall outlet....😃

@bcole3442

Жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors Here's my problem,with these super hyped,weak as F,solar "generators" that these "Prepper" channels are pimpin.. Poor broke AZZ grandmother,of someone,buys this hype,and saves up her meager $$,+ actually buys one. Well,poor Granny lives in Michigan,so in December,a big blizzard hits,and it's lights out for poor Granny. So she gets out her $1,000 solar 🙃" generator" well,the sun ,next time it's out in 2 weeks,looks like a tiny lightbulb. So,poor Granny ,plugs in her " generator" and it buzzes, blinks,and won't even charge her phone,so Granny can call for help. Granny could have had a 15 Amp gasoline ,real actual generator,for 1/3 of what she paid. Whatever that,solar fan... 😃

I'm here from the future, do not buy the solar generator

I’m worried about your chances of diabetes 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

lol so far I'm still good! And I'm closer to 60 than 50 now!

How much r they

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Not sure, they are on sale right now you can click one of the links to find out. Thanks.

@jackm6307

Жыл бұрын

It's not in my nature to be mean, but at the risk of sounding that way to some, I feel obligated to say, this is probably, by far, the worse deal you can get on as solar system. The battery is 768 watt hours, and that should give you enough to do some comparisons with other units, say, on Amazon. Also the threat of riots, and outages are the same tactics the 4Patriots people use to push their products. Honestly, I'm afraid the videos author is going to hurt himself more than anything else with this video, that is unless he stands to gain monitarily from 4Patriots.

Well I’ve only listen to about 50 seconds of the video and it sounds like you’re already trying to sell it to me. So Not sure your review is going to be legit or not!! But I’ll listen to it anyway.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Well did you watch the whole thing? I simply laid out the facts..

Who is this dude ? Not a good spokesman at all. Not believable.

@kapperoutdoors

10 ай бұрын

lol that's funny. This is a factual presentation exactly how it happened. Not sure what you can't believe?

There's one difference between me and you Kapper I wash out my plastic cup after I drink out of it I don't keep pouring different drinks from coffee to soda and never wash it😂😂😂 🧌

@kapperoutdoors

11 ай бұрын

eh, a little more bacteria may help to strengthen your immune system! :0

@Toboldlygo721

11 ай бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors you're funny I like you, I say the same type of thing to my wife 🤪👍🏻✨☮️ I'm just as guilty😋🧌 🫗🥤🍸 shaken not stirred 007 🤣😂🤪👍🏻🦠🧪

I got solar but I'm going to put a timer on my freezer

How much did they pay you to give this overpriced device a good review

@kapperoutdoors

4 ай бұрын

lol just did the product review!

Where is the link showing? How much this is?

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Should be a link in the video description. Best of luck.